Re: FYI, OSGi Features RFP

2018-04-12 Thread Łukasz Dywicki
Hey David & Christian & Guilliame & Grzegorze Great to hear that from David, as an insider. It is super cool to have Christian watching things from karaf side. I am sending this reply to share my personal view on the past and hope in future standard. I rely on our features mechanism since its earl

Re: FYI, OSGi Features RFP

2018-04-09 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
That's a fair comment. However, we can still maintain our feature model, not following the specification. Regards JB On 04/09/2018 12:00 PM, Guillaume Nodet wrote: > 2018-04-09 11:42 GMT+02:00 Francois Papon : > >> Hi Guillaume, >> >> Can you explain why you think it's not a good thing for Kar

Re: FYI, OSGi Features RFP

2018-04-09 Thread davidb
Hi all, As Guillaume says OSGi Alliance is not an open source organisation. It is a Standards Development Organisation (SDO) where all the OSGi specifications are developed by a community of members. These members include committers from Apache, Eclipse and other open source organisations. OSGi is

Re: FYI, OSGi Features RFP

2018-04-09 Thread Grzegorz Grzybek
Hello And how about Eclipse features? From certain perspective, these are also higher-level concept than standard bundles, but probably not that runtime-specific (I mean there's no "feature service" you can obtain and for example list installed features). I'm also a bit worried about forcing Kara

Re: FYI, OSGi Features RFP

2018-04-09 Thread Christian Schneider
I think the RFP is based on the prototype of the sling feature model. See: https://github.com/apache/sling-whiteboard/tree/master/featuremodel As far as I know this is indeed inspired by karaf. I am not sure how compatible it is at the moment. I will try to participate in the standardisation effo

Re: FYI, OSGi Features RFP

2018-04-09 Thread Francois Papon
I didn't know about the OSGi alliance inside... if it's not an open source organization and community not involved, I understand your fear. Thanks for your explanation ;) Le 09/04/2018 à 14:00, Guillaume Nodet a écrit : > 2018-04-09 11:42 GMT+02:00 Francois Papon : > >> Hi Guillaume, >> >> Can

Re: FYI, OSGi Features RFP

2018-04-09 Thread Guillaume Nodet
2018-04-09 11:42 GMT+02:00 Francois Papon : > Hi Guillaume, > > Can you explain why you think it's not a good thing for Karaf ? > Because from an OSGi pov, it's not really possible to involve the Karaf community, so if the community is not fully involved, I don't see how it could be beneficial to

Re: FYI, OSGi Features RFP

2018-04-09 Thread Francois Papon
Hi Guillaume, Can you explain why you think it's not a good thing for Karaf ? François Le 09/04/2018 à 13:35, Guillaume Nodet a écrit : > I was not in any way aware of this RFP and I'm not part of the process, but > this looks really inspired from Karaf Features at least. > The author, David B.

Re: FYI, OSGi Features RFP

2018-04-09 Thread Guillaume Nodet
I was not in any way aware of this RFP and I'm not part of the process, but this looks really inspired from Karaf Features at least. The author, David B. is a Karaf committer, so he may be able to comment on what he has in mind. Having said that, I'm not so sure it's a good thing for Karaf, but we

Re: FYI, OSGi Features RFP

2018-04-09 Thread Francois Papon
Thanks Guillaume for sharing ! It's a great news :) François Le 09/04/2018 à 12:54, Guillaume Nodet a écrit : > See https://github.com/osgi/design/blob/master/rfps/rfp-0188-Features.pdf >

Re: FYI, OSGi Features RFP

2018-04-09 Thread Serge Huber
Interesting ! Is it planned to be based on Karaf Features model ? cheers, Serge... Serge Huber CTO & Co-Founder T +41 22 361 3424 9 route des Jeunes | 1227 Acacias | Switzerland jahia.com SKYPE | LINKEDIN | TWITTER

Re: FYI, OSGi Features RFP

2018-04-09 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Thanks for the update, great news ;) Regards JB On 09/04/2018 10:54, Guillaume Nodet wrote: See https://github.com/osgi/design/blob/master/rfps/rfp-0188-Features.pdf