Re: Request for feedback: proposal for MXNet SDK Office hours

2018-07-24 Thread Davydenko, Denis
Hi, MXNet community, I would like to suggest that we (participants of dev@ list) spend couple more days thinking about and discussing proposal for office hours and then, if no active discussion is happening, move towards lazy vote to get to conclusion on whether we can incorporate suggested pra

Re: Request for feedback: proposal for MXNet SDK Office hours

2018-07-24 Thread Naveen Swamy
Sheng, cwiki keeps versions of page edits, you could always compare based on the discussion date on dev@. Moving the page might or might not be an issue, I would use caution on moving pages. I have seen other communities use Google Doc, cwiki provides a central place to capture all process and desi

Re: Request for feedback: proposal for MXNet SDK Office hours

2018-07-23 Thread Sheng Zha
Thanks for the clarification, Naveen. I'd recommend against having wiki or other mutable document for such discussion, because people's response (or the lack of it in the case of lazy consensus) is only toward the version they saw, which can be changed. Rather, it would likely be a better idea to i

Re: Request for feedback: proposal for MXNet SDK Office hours

2018-07-23 Thread Naveen Swamy
Sheng, It is in the wiki, I also added a TOC to find it easily. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/PROPOSAL%3A+Apache+MXNet%28Incubating%29+Office+Hours#PROPOSAL:ApacheMXNet(Incubating)OfficeHours-How ? How? Developers would have 1 hour every week to dedicate to office hours meeting

Re: Request for feedback: proposal for MXNet SDK Office hours

2018-07-23 Thread Sheng Zha
Hi Naveen, While your enthusiasm is certainly appreciated, next time, shall we include the "new Issue Type" in the discussion first? I found no prior mention on this. Also, a reminder to everyone that next time, let's respect Apache Infra's time by following the instructions to have an Apache men

Re: Request for feedback: proposal for MXNet SDK Office hours

2018-07-23 Thread Davydenko, Denis
Hi, Hen, Thanks a lot for your feedback, it is very valuable! I should have been probably more explicit about idea and intention of providing users with office hours channel of communication. The idea behind office hours is to provide an additional communication channel to Apache MXNet users. I

Re: Request for feedback: proposal for MXNet SDK Office hours

2018-07-23 Thread Hen
Noting that, as far as I can tell, there is no such thing as 'MXNet SDK', 'AWS MXNet SDK' or 'Amazon MXNet SDK'. On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 2:30 PM, Mu Li wrote: > A minor suggestion: rename MXNet SDK to AWS MXNet SDK or Amazon MXNet SDK. > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 2:22 PM, Davydenko, Denis < > dz

Re: Request for feedback: proposal for MXNet SDK Office hours

2018-07-23 Thread Hen
My concerns on Office Hours are: 1) Voice and F2F are not very welcoming for a diverse community. There I am, sitting in New Zealand, and you want me to get on the phone and wake up the rest of the family to have a conversation. Or get on a plane. 2) Having to book time is also not very welcoming.

Re: Request for feedback: proposal for MXNet SDK Office hours

2018-07-23 Thread Naveen Swamy
Hey All, just created a INFRA ticket(https://issues.apache.o rg/jira/browse/INFRA-16805) requesting a new Issue Type "Office Hours" on JIRA to better manage and support Office hours request. One feedback I received was that "Apache" was neither mentioned in the discussion nor in the PROPOSAL on

Re: Request for feedback: proposal for MXNet SDK Office hours

2018-07-19 Thread Pedro Larroy
Yes Naveen, I think you are saying exactly the same as I hinted. Sheng also agreed with this. Pedro. On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 6:54 PM Naveen Swamy wrote: > I do not think there needs to be a distinction made for > support/office-hours by committer or contributors(in this case Amazon > employed c

Re: Request for feedback: proposal for MXNet SDK Office hours

2018-07-19 Thread Sheng Zha
Thanks. Yeah, I think naming after focused area instead of Amazon internal organization/team names would likely work better. That way, others who'd like to offer help in that area can just jump in and start helping. -sz On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 9:51 AM, Pedro Larroy wrote: > There's an MXNet com

Re: Request for feedback: proposal for MXNet SDK Office hours

2018-07-19 Thread Naveen Swamy
I do not think there needs to be a distinction made for support/office-hours by committer or contributors(in this case Amazon employed contributors) -- correct me if I misunderstood your guess :). Like I said, I would rather call it MXNet Office hours and categorize the kind of support that is offe

Re: Request for feedback: proposal for MXNet SDK Office hours

2018-07-19 Thread Pedro Larroy
There's an MXNet comitter in our office hours (Marco de Abreu @marcoabreu), others are contributors such as Anton (@lebeg) or others. I think we could refocus the conversation to the point that the office hours might have some emphasis in a particular area of MXNet. On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 6:21 PM

Re: Request for feedback: proposal for MXNet SDK Office hours

2018-07-19 Thread Sheng Zha
I'm guessing Mu's intention is to make it clear that such invitation is extended by teams in Amazon/AWS instead of by committers, so as to avoid the confusion of the naming "MXNet SDK". Suggestions to achieve the same goal are welcome. Best regards, -sz On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 9:09 AM, Isabel Dro

Re: Request for feedback: proposal for MXNet SDK Office hours

2018-07-19 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
On 18/07/18 23:30, Mu Li wrote: A minor suggestion: rename MXNet SDK to AWS MXNet SDK or Amazon MXNet SDK. What exactly is the Amazon MXNet SDK? What is the AWS MXNet SDK? Your suggestion triggered my question because: https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#products Isabel

Re: Request for feedback: proposal for MXNet SDK Office hours

2018-07-18 Thread Naveen Swamy
I think this should be called MXNet Office hours and in a subsection spell what is supported now(expectation)? Amazon contributors could lead part of the effort? and later have other interested contributors join this effort. On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 2:30 PM, Mu Li wrote: > A minor suggestion: ren

Re: Request for feedback: proposal for MXNet SDK Office hours

2018-07-18 Thread Mu Li
A minor suggestion: rename MXNet SDK to AWS MXNet SDK or Amazon MXNet SDK. On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 2:22 PM, Davydenko, Denis < dzianis.davydze...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, MXNet community, > > Following up on recent announcement of office hours introduction from > MXNet Berlin team, we are tryi