+1 Gradle
-1 Maven
Gradle is far superior to maven especially in multi project projects. It
still uses ant for certain tasks such as jar signing but the groovy
scripting allows you to powerfully control how the build works. I will
admit it's a bit of mind set change but once you are over the learn
Encouraging read
https://www.reddit.com/r/AMA/comments/8pc8mf/im_nat_friedman_future_ceo_of_github_ama/?limit=500
On Thu, 7 Jun 2018, 19:46 Stephen Parry, wrote:
> Just my tuppence worth (being British) regarding Micro$oft being evil:
> companies do change. I remember when IBM was the byword
Is there a guide any where for building netbeans in the netbeans ide so you
can use netbeans to debug things?
On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, 19:48 Dmitry Avtonomov,
wrote:
> Thanks Matthias and Gj!
>
> I've added the extra Debug line to confluence wiki:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETB
/cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Development+Environment
>
> Gj
>
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 8:58 PM, Peter Steele
> wrote:
>
> > Is there a guide any where for building netbeans in the netbeans ide so
> you
> > can use netbeans to debug things?
&
There is a nice little animated gif of stack overflow which shows you how
to do this.
https://stackoverflow.com/a/24159161/2999563
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 17:27 Geertjan Wielenga,
wrote:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/601
>
> That's a PR for 'main'. How do I get it into 'rele
Can someone link the current book to netbeans.apache.org? Would've good to
reference it in the documentation page and when /if the new book comes the
link can be updated.
On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 09:40 Delfi Ramirez, wrote:
> +1 Huang Kai 😉
>
> A wonder of myself to the community. Is there exist any
I had a look at Apress and there are quite a few books on netbeans (one
already that uses Netbeans 9 for its demos!). They all cost money
(unsurprisingly), I was wondering how that would fit in to a community
written book?
I don't have any expertise to add myself (I'm kind of waiting till things
s
Could Netbeans implement something similar in his stack overflow?
https://stackoverflow.com/q/3297/2999563
Let it be flagged as unstable or experimental in the javadoc but let the
user decide (how ever stupid it maybe)
On Mon, 23 Jul 2018 10:12 Neil C Smith, wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2018, 0
Hi
What's the latest of getting Netbeans 9 packaged up as a snap? I saw some
emails a while back but nothing seemed to indicate if anything was going to
happen or not.
Having a snap would make it very easy to install on Linux. I see some
discussions on Mac packaging, would be good to close the Li
/jira/browse/INFRA-16728
>
> Till it happens:
> wget
>
> https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/lkishalmi-us-west-2-public/snaps/netbeans_9.0_amd64.snap
> sudo snap install netbeans_9.0_amd64.snap --dangerous --classic
>
> On 07/30/2018 09:49 AM, Peter Steele wrote:
> > Hi
https://help.github.com/articles/merging-an-upstream-repository-into-your-fork/
On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 15:41 Geertjan Wielenga,
wrote:
> Is there a way to merge the branch into master on GitHub?
>
> Or is there someone who can recommend best practices for doing this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Tue
nce, but should someone do this in their own clone
> or should it be done directly in
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans?
>
> Gj
>
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 4:45 PM, Peter Steele
> wrote:
>
> > https://help.github.com/articles/merging-an-upstream-
> &g
bout this and explain what
> >>> needs to
> >>> > be done re Rat and then someone can do that.
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> I think it might be good to merge master into the 2ndDonation branch
> >>> (and
> >>> push to 2ndDonation). Th
Phycologically people feel they have a more modern system if it updates
more frequently. There should be no reason why minor items can't be
released quickly in a more agile way. I suspect though we need to move out
of incubator status for that because there are a lot of rounds of approval
before co
Useful tip for those editing confluence, you can select dates for the table
by typing // to bring up the date selector. The dates in the table are then
sortable.
On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 12:35 PM Oliver Rettig wrote:
> +1 and thanks
> > Hi all,
> >
> > On the Slack channel and elsewhere there's be
Badly worded by me, module update issue is where the update center will be
located
On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 15:54 Oliver Rettig, wrote:
> > Phycologically people feel they have a more modern system if it updates
> > more frequently. There should be no reason why minor items can't be
> > released quick
The fact that there are so many open PR's is an issue in itself, we either
have lots of amazing code that isn't being integrated, or lots on
unsuitable requests that should be formally closed down or something in the
middle of these two (most likely).
Closing them just hides the fact we don't have
2018 07:35 Jaroslav Tulach,
wrote:
> Dne Pá 17. srpna 2018 06:30:28, Peter Steele napsal(a):
> > So my thoughts on this would be to decide on a more formal PR approach
> and
> > apply it to this situation
>
> Great, that is what I am calling for!
>
> Let's auto
Looks like CONTRIBUTOR.md is "standard place" to put information on how to
contribute. Should be easy to add this to the root folder in GitHub.
On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 09:00 Peter Steele, wrote:
> What is the process / criteria for approving a PR and what is the process
> / criter
Hi
I recently upgraded my java on ubuntu and on startup I get this error
java.awt.AWTError: Assistive Technology not found:
org.GNOME.Accessibility.AtkWrapper
at java.desktop/java.awt.Toolkit.newAWTError(Toolkit.java:472)
at java.desktop/java.awt.Toolkit.fallbackToLoadClassForAT(Toolkit.java:488)
The theme you use will make a difference too, if it's a native laf theme
then it will use the os scaling properties. If not it won't and you will
need to set the ui scaling property and also set hdip property. There is a
manifest solution too but you don't need this. If you need these -J-D
command
Here it is
-J-Dsun.java2d.dpiaware=false
-J-Dsun.java2d.uiScale=2
With these you don't need to set the -fontSize, icons and fonts work well.
These work well for a theme that is not native (for me that is GTK)
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 7:21 PM Peter Steele wrote:
> The theme you use wil
I believe in some other emails it was mentioned java help couldn't be
included due to license issues.
On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 11:41 Peter Nabbefeld, wrote:
> After some changes (mainly in folder structure) which seemed to be
> necessary, help seems even not to be recognized.
>
> - P.
>
>
> Am 13.09.
The 17 aren't listed in the JIRA but I would argue only netbeans.org is
required. You can host videos/aggregate a blog, have a staging area all on
one site
On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 09:25 Geertjan Wielenga,
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Oracle donated 17 domains connected to NetBeans to Apache:
>
> https://iss
ertjan Wielenga,
wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 11:22 AM, Peter Steele
> wrote:
>
> > The 17 aren't listed in the JIRA
>
>
>
> Yes, they are. Copied and pasted from the JIRA:
>
> netbeans.org
> netbeans.net
> netbeans.info
> netbeans.com
Kenneth
apache.netbeans.org supports https, so once everything redirects here we
should be good by default. There is a Jira to find a solution to the plugin
hosting question once we go fully move over but I think that's the still
TBD. Maybe find that Jira and add some comments to mention the new h
+1
On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 01:37 Laszlo Kishalmi,
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> What do you think on the idea to create a simple Java agent which can
> insert system properties into the JVM before NetBeans starts?
>
> My motivation are the following:
>
> 1. Sometimes you need to change some properties to de
I am a big gradle user, I currently use the gradle plugin setup with a root
project and many sub projects. I am interested in helping. I'm currently on
netbeans 10 with jdk 11 (there is a minimum version of gradle required for
Jdk 11)
On Sat, 26 Jan 2019, 13:07 Geertjan Wielenga
Hi all,
>
> If yo
Is there anything anywhere saying why netbeans needs its own java compiler
(nb-javac) What features require this? I'm just surprised that netbeans was
ever built with a custom javac.
On 17 Dec 2017 11:03, "Geertjan Wielenga"
wrote:
It's great and works for me and complies with the instructions w
Antonio
I beleive Vano wants wiki access not help on subscribing to the emails.
On 19 Jan 2018 08:38, "Antonio" wrote:
Hi Vano,
Instructions on how to subscribe and unsubscribe from mailing lists (either
digests or not) are at https://cwiki.apache.org/confl
uence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
As you indicate there will probably not be enough contributions to
continue at the same pace, in which case it's better to reduce the
scope early and continue delivering a good but smaller product, rather
than trying to keep the same scope and be unable to cope with it.
-Bertrand
I disagree with
Is there a reason why netbeans.org is not redirecting to netbeans.apache.org?
The new front page looks so much better than the existing one. It's just
missing the download to the 8.2 version
On 20 Feb 2018 15:11, "cowwoc" wrote:
> I am seeing the same thing as Rik but here is the interesting bi
Looks good, what timelines do you have for the migration?
On 23 Feb 2018 12:11, "Josh Juneau" wrote:
> Great work!
>
> Josh Juneau
> j
>
> > On Feb 23, 2018, at 1:19 AM, Antonio wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Wade, Tim, Neil, Jirka, Geertjan and I have been doing some experiments
> regarding th
Gradle clean basically cleans the build directory used in java compilation.
In the task compileContentSass for instance you source from $contentDir and
write to $generatedAssetDir and these are not part of the java eco system.
What you should do is create a new task which deletes all the directori
is to actually move the clean code from the
scripts to gradle because gradle will then have a complete view on things
On 26 Feb 2018 11:07, "Neil C Smith" wrote:
On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 at 10:57 Peter Steele wrote:
> Gradle clean basically cleans the build directory used in java
compilat
Apologies if i may have missed it, but where in the
incubator-netbeans-website github repository is the delete/clean code in
build.gradle?
On 26 Feb 2018 11:52, "Neil C Smith" wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 at 11:38 Peter Steele wrote:
>
> > Although the easiest way is to a
I take it it's only really between 1 and 2 as 3,4,5,6,7,8 is typography.
+1 to number 2 the colored SVG icon.
On 1 Mar 2018 07:36, "Eduard Karel de Jong" wrote:
> Great!
> Another step forward for NetBeans.
>
> How do I cast a vote on [2}?
>
> It says 'cast ypur vote below,' howvere only the, a
That means you need to have an account that is approved for editting.
I'm a +1 for option 2. If someone has edit rights please add my vote.
On 1 Mar 2018 11:21, "Antonio" wrote:
> Edit the page and atomically increment the number there. An empty slot
> means 0. :-)
>
> On 01/03/18 08:36, Eduard
Logo Id 2 : +1
On 1 Mar 2018 12:38, "Neil C Smith" wrote:
> Logo ID 1 : +1
>
> Thanks,
>
> Neil
> --
> Neil C Smith
> Artist & Technologist
> www.neilcsmith.net
>
> Praxis LIVE - hybrid visual IDE for creative coding - www.praxislive.org
>
What about the eclipse RCP framework which uses swt? This would seem to be
a much better solution than having a html front end.
On 12 Mar 2018 16:25, "Neil C Smith" wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 at 15:59 Jaroslav Tulach
> wrote:
>
> > Forget about AWT, Swing and JavaFX - the future is HTML. In c
To be clear (which i wasn't) i meant eclipse RCP is pretty popular, it uses
swt as it's foundation. Could netbeans use swt as it's foundations too?
On 12 Mar 2018 16:36, "Peter Steele" wrote:
> What about the eclipse RCP framework which uses swt? This would seem to
And there is Apache pivot, being Apache maybe we could get help in any
migration if that was the path chosen
On 12 Mar 2018 16:39, "Peter Steele" wrote:
> To be clear (which i wasn't) i meant eclipse RCP is pretty popular, it
> uses swt as it's foundation. Coul
ot; wrote:
> Have a look into electron apps. A lot of apps are written with this
> Framework like VS Code and I think this is a big Player and you can see,
> that it performs very well and it is performant as hell. Only to say one of
> those apps.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
I can’t understand that, but ok. So please don’t
compare GWT or Vaadin with native JS.
Cheers
Chris
Von: Peter Steele
Gesendet: Montag, 12. März 2018 17:50
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: AW: Apache HTML/Java UI instead of ... Oracle will remove
JavaFXfromOracle JDK
Christi
Toni
MVVM is an architecture, not a technology. You can use any technology to
implement it (there are even some that use swing).
If you want the whole ui rendered in HTML 5, you need something to parse
html, CSS and JavaScript. Which, despite what you say, needs a browser like
rendering engine. W
erence.
Where did I propose to use DukeScript Presenters or DukeScript proprietary
stuff for any of this? I only mentioned it as an example to show it's
possible to use other renderers than JavaFX WebView.
I'm beginning to feel Jaroslav's pain.
--Toni
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
On Thu, 15 Mar 2018, 20:08 Jaroslav Tulach,
wrote:
> Hello Dmitry,
> thanks a lot for trying it out!
>
> 2018-03-15 2:50 GMT+01:00 Dmitry Avtonomov :
>
> > I find it incredible that Jaroslav is saying "... people aren't willing
> to
> > dedicate 10minutes of their personal time to try HTML/Java A
Hi
I am not part of NETCAT but I have started using netbeans 9 incubator beta
as my primary idea (the gradle plugin is no longer updated for 8.2 and it's
much more stable in 9).
I have had a few scenarios where ide errors have occured, I have saved the
stack traces for these and when they occured
I don't have a login to the JIRA project, can any body request one? Or do
you need to be a committee?
On Fri, 23 Mar 2018, 07:57 cowwoc, wrote:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS/issues/ is your friend.
>
> Gili
>
> On 2018-03-23 3:55 AM, Peter Steele wrote:
Thanks all, I have done, will add them when I get back from work
On Fri, 23 Mar 2018, 08:58 Hermien Pellissier, wrote:
> >
> > Anyone can create an account.
> >
>
> That is indeed correct. Click on Log In (top right), and on the login
> screen click Sign up. Anyone with an account can report new
That averages 2.74 lines of code per file, must be a mistake there
somewhere 😀
On Fri, 13 Apr 2018, 13:13 Geertjan Wielenga, <
geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Number of files in 2nd donation: 38338 -- after running this: find . -print
> | wc -l
>
> Number of lines of code in 2nd donati
+1 to Chris / Neil
You shouldn't be developing in master, ideally
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, 15:10 Christian Lenz, wrote:
> Master shouldn’t be that one, where the wild development is going on.
> Master should be that one which is already live.
> In General, what gitflow does. Wild development is goi
Just for my interest, which types of people can approve Pull Requests? As
we are now open source the community is deciding what's important by
providing the PR's but we have quite a few stacked up. It has previously
been mentioned in someone else request to get one approved that they should
just se
+1 separate window
I'd like to also suggest having the separate window track selection events
in the windows that generated it so that you only have one window up. An
example of this would be the commit window, clicking of different files
would load the diff for that file and changing the selectio
The issue I had with GTK on java 10 on Ubuntu was that it had wierd
behaviour for hidpi screens. If I used the UI Scaling property to match the
os I would get images all scaled correctly but fonts would be twice the
size. If I set the UI Scaling property to 1 the font would now look nice
but the im
If there are configurable options to change it why do you care? You can
just keep the settings how you like it and you will be happy. From what I
read in the chain it sounds like this was a suggestion a while back.
On Thu, 10 May 2018, 15:17 Matthias Bläsing,
wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, den 10.05.20
As one of those "netbeans users" I would agree with both sides of what
people have been saying.
I joined this and the user mailing list to find out a bit more about what
is happening, I would love to contribute at some point but because of the
little time I can give currently I wanted to wait for
des. Hopefully the Apache integration
will help it move quickly to a better place.
Step one though is making it clearer to users of netbeans that the
integration is happening and progress is being made to get a new release
out.
On 13 Oct 2017 09:00, "Geertjan Wielenga"
wrote:
On Fri, Oc
13 Oct 2017 10:18, "Geertjan Wielenga"
wrote:
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Peter Steele wrote:
> The Apache integration should be very prominent on the main page, it
should
> link to all the relevant Apache pages and should ask for volunteers etc.
> The Apache wi
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