Re: [OSM-dev] [HOT] Open Street Map

2010-03-24 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
Hi, there are many answers and your question is vague. I think the best start would be the export function : http://www.openstreetmap.org/export?lat=41.82lon=20.07zoom=8layers=B000FTFT you can create an iframe and embed that on your webpage. you can extend open layers to include more data on top

Re: [OSM-dev] [HOT] Open Street Map

2010-03-24 Thread Mikel Maron
John Come to our meeting this Friday in Nairobi at SODNET ... we will be discussing this. Best Mikel == Mikel Maron == +254(0)724899738 @mikel s:mikelmaron http://mapkibera.org/ http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Haiti From: John Yumbya

Re: [OSM-dev] [HOT] Open Street Map

2010-03-24 Thread John Smith
On 24 March 2010 16:48, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Otherwise, you can setup a mapnik renderer to render you own maps. setting up your own server is involved, so be prepared to do alot of work. I haven't tried this, but a simpler option is to grab a

Re: [OSM-dev] Query-Formats

2010-03-24 Thread Peter Körner
The NYTimes version can't the Cherokee version can. And administration of 'certain query types' is usually not the idea of a public SQL interface. Anyway you could of course make a view on the data that only provides select capabilities. The problem is that the queries must be formated in a

[OSM-dev] Project Proposal - Waze Integration

2010-03-24 Thread Graham Jones
Hi Folks, A student has contacted me about a potential Google Summer of Code proposal to provide integration between OSM and Waze http://www.waze.com ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GSoC_Project_Ideas_2010#Waze_Integration ). I had never heard of Waze before, but it seems to be a combination

Re: [OSM-dev] Query-Formats

2010-03-24 Thread Stefan de Konink
Solution: documentation. Stefan Op 24 mrt 2010 om 08:35 heeft Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de het volgende geschreven:\ The NYTimes version can't the Cherokee version can. And administration of 'certain query types' is usually not the idea of a public SQL interface. Anyway you

Re: [OSM-dev] Project Proposal - Waze Integration

2010-03-24 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Graham Jones wrote: 1. For some reason, Waze seem to be producing their own map rather than using OSM as the basis - does anyone know why? The student says he has contacted Waze and they said it was because of licensing issues - this is a surprise to me, because I

Re: [OSM-dev] Project Proposal - Waze Integration

2010-03-24 Thread Nic Roets
Hello Graham, AFAIK Waze wants to build their own map of the world and sees OSM as competition. Waze has already imported TIGER, which is PD and I don't think Waze will be a viable concept without TIGER. SteveC reviewed their Iphone app on his blog. There is however scope for building our own

Re: [OSM-dev] Tile stitcher?

2010-03-24 Thread Frederik Ramm
Alan, Alan Mintz wrote: Is there a simple, hopefully command-line or config-file driven tool that I can use to generate a single JPEG from multiple JPEGs? The montage tool from the ImageMagick suite can do that. It has an array of command line options; you would use it somehow like this:

[OSM-dev] Fwd: LinkedGeoData Google Code Project Started

2010-03-24 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
FYI: The linked geodata for OSM (rdf) has released code today http://code.google.com/p/linkedgeodata/ -- Forwarded message -- From: Jens Lehmann lehm...@informatik.uni-leipzig.de Date: Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:31 AM Subject: LinkedGeoData Google Code Project Started To:

[OSM-dev] osbsql2osm Windows binary

2010-03-24 Thread Christian H. Bruhn
Hi! In http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:All_in_one_Garmin_Map#Openstreetbugs the tool osbsql2osm in mentioned. But it is only available as C-sourcecode. Does anyone have a windows binary for that or could compile it for me? Thank you! Christian

Re: [OSM-dev] osbsql2osm Windows binary

2010-03-24 Thread Peter Körner
compile it for me? http://toolserver.org/~mazder/temp/osbsql2osm-0.3.1-cygwin-win32.zip Peter ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev

Re: [OSM-dev] Removing Minutely and Hourly Changesets

2010-03-24 Thread Andreas Höschler
Hi all, I just noticed, that the minute diffs are not here anymore. My tool http://datenkueche.com/osmlive did use this files. Is there a possibility to find a file if I have only the time? For the old system I used: $delta=(int) $_GET['delta']; $time1=time()-7200-360 -$delta;

[OSM-dev] Mobile App for OSM

2010-03-24 Thread Aditya Vikram Thoomati
Hi, I had initially thought embedding Waze to OSM and then build it as Graham has mentioned earlier.As pointed that Waze had some issues,why not we create apps for the mobiles which goes good with OSM.As Waze apps are opensource,we can take the code from waze to start building OSM maps

[OSM-dev] Doing street names from aerial imagery

2010-03-24 Thread John Smith
This is a routing problem, hopefully someone has already solved it. If there is a suburb of streets mapped from aerial imagery and you have several volunteers how do you work out the most efficient path for all the voluneteers to take to grab street names with minimal overlap etc.

[OSM-dev] Mobile App for OSM‏

2010-03-24 Thread Aditya Vikram Thoomati
Hi, I had initially thought embedding Waze to OSM and then build it as Graham has mentioned earlier.As pointed that Waze had some issues,why not we create apps for the mobiles which goes good with OSM.As Waze apps are opensource,we can take the code from waze to start building OSM maps

Re: [OSM-dev] Removing Minutely and Hourly Changesets

2010-03-24 Thread Lennard
The heavies task is 1. Maybe we could set up a database for this task.. Peter I rather liked Brett's earlier suggestion to have this solved on the diff server itself. So you could wget http://diffserver/state/minute/20100301_00;, and the web service would find the right state file and

Re: [OSM-dev] Removing Minutely and Hourly Changesets

2010-03-24 Thread Peter Körner
Lennard schrieb: The heavies task is 1. Maybe we could set up a database for this task.. Peter I rather liked Brett's earlier suggestion to have this solved on the diff server itself. So you could wget http://diffserver/state/minute/20100301_00;, and the web service would find the

Re: [josm-dev] How does merging exactly work ?

2010-03-24 Thread colliar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hey colliar schrieb: I was wondering if the order is important when merging 2 layers ? Is there anybody who can answer my question ? Depending on the order of layers I get different conflicts. Why ? Is it important which layer is active or does

Re: [OSM-dev] Doing street names from aerial imagery

2010-03-24 Thread Tom Hughes
On 24/03/10 10:52, John Smith wrote: This is a routing problem, hopefully someone has already solved it. If there is a suburb of streets mapped from aerial imagery and you have several volunteers how do you work out the most efficient path for all the voluneteers to take to grab street names

Re: [OSM-dev] Doing street names from aerial imagery

2010-03-24 Thread John Robert Peterson
Fundamentally this is a simple application of some of the shortest path algorithms that are studied at university computer science and mathematics departments adnausium. There are however a bunch of complications that make it a little less simple, and is likely best worked out in each individual

Re: [OSM-dev] Doing street names from aerial imagery

2010-03-24 Thread John Smith
On 24 March 2010 21:28, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: Wanting to divide the job among multiple people probably just makes it harder, but as it's NP-complete to start with I'm not sure that matters ;-) As Gregory points out it would be simple if it was a simple gridded layout and if there

Re: [OSM-dev] Doing street names from aerial imagery

2010-03-24 Thread John Smith
On 24 March 2010 21:31, John Robert Peterson jrp@gmail.com wrote: Are you willing to accept that if a road changes name part way though, and that missing this is a reasonable error? What is the probability of this occurring? I'm guessing fairly low, although you could minimise this by

Re: [OSM-dev] Doing street names from aerial imagery

2010-03-24 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 24 March 2010 12:31, John Robert Peterson jrp@gmail.com wrote: However due to the huge number of variables involved, I'd be surprised if there was any way a computer could do it faster or better: ... When you arrive on the ground you can find that there are names only at one end of a

Re: [OSM-dev] Doing street names from aerial imagery

2010-03-24 Thread John Smith
On 24 March 2010 21:47, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: geometry. A complete algorithm would have to go through each possible combination of all the routing parameters (oneways, traffic calming, label on one end, label on the other end, etc etc) and find a solution Depending on

Re: [OSM-dev] Doing street names from aerial imagery

2010-03-24 Thread Gregory
On 24 March 2010 04:32, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 March 2010 21:28, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: Wanting to divide the job among multiple people probably just makes it harder, but as it's NP-complete to start with I'm not sure that matters ;-) As Gregory

Re: [OSM-dev] Doing street names from aerial imagery

2010-03-24 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 24/03/2010 10:52, John Smith wrote: This is a routing problem, hopefully someone has already solved it. If there is a suburb of streets mapped from aerial imagery and you have several volunteers how do you work out the most efficient path for all the voluneteers to take to grab street

Re: [OSM-dev] Removing Minutely and Hourly Changesets

2010-03-24 Thread Bernhard zwischenbrugger
hi I would be interested in that as well, ideally a file that is generated every hour with a fixed named scheme we can easily track for. Can this be reactivated? Why has it been disabled after all? I would like to have that live. At: https://world.waze.com/livemap/ they have a live ticker.

Re: [OSM-dev] Doing street names from aerial imagery

2010-03-24 Thread John Robert Peterson
So we can assume that a bounding area for what we are interested in will be supplied; Assume that there are no oneway systems in place unless that data is already on the server; Assume that all roads are equally passable unless otherwise staed in the database (either by speed restictions or

Re: [OSM-dev] Doing street names from aerial imagery

2010-03-24 Thread John Smith
On 24 March 2010 21:58, Jonathan Bennett openstreet...@jonno.cix.co.uk wrote: You need to bear in mind that there will be errors in the tracing anyway -- roads marked that aren't there, and some paths missed that are there. Your volunteers will need to take this into account as well, so

Re: [OSM-dev] Removing Minutely and Hourly Changesets

2010-03-24 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 24-03-10 13:02, Bernhard zwischenbrugger schreef: If all the changesets would go to an xmpp stream, it would be a really easy to such a liveticker for osm. There was a site in the past where this was visible. I have created an OpenLayers

Re: [OSM-dev] Doing street names from aerial imagery

2010-03-24 Thread John Smith
On 24 March 2010 21:53, Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com wrote: Why don't you just man-up (or nerd-up) and go full out with getting house numbers. Think of it as a progressive system, first comes the physical street information (the ways), then comes the names and then comes the street

Re: [OSM-dev] Doing street names from aerial imagery

2010-03-24 Thread John Smith
On 24 March 2010 22:08, John Robert Peterson jrp@gmail.com wrote: Could road passability be calulated usefully from road cureyness? or would it be bust simply to use length? Both the length and how tight the curves are important, tighter the curves, the slower you must go and the longer the

[OSM-dev] Fwd: Re: Project Proposal - Waze Integration

2010-03-24 Thread Thomas Meller
Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:05:53 +0100 Von: Thomas Meller thomas.mel...@gmx.net An: Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com Betreff: Re: [OSM-dev] Project Proposal - Waze Integration I am glad they build their own map. The project will get stuck. The social mechanics won't

Re: [OSM-dev] Fwd: Re: Project Proposal - Waze Integration

2010-03-24 Thread John Smith
On 24 March 2010 22:33, Thomas Meller thomas.mel...@gmx.net wrote: It might be possible to write plugins which deliver data to waze and other services at the same time. I think this would not break their copyright conditions. But to be sure, I would discuss this well on osm-legal. If it's

Re: [OSM-dev] Removing Minutely and Hourly Changesets

2010-03-24 Thread Bernhard zwischenbrugger
hi If all the changesets would go to an xmpp stream, it would be a really easy to such a liveticker for osm. There was a site in the past where this was visible. I have created an OpenLayers implementation to visualize it. So even with what is publish now, not a line of XMPP is

Re: [OSM-dev] Removing Minutely and Hourly Changesets

2010-03-24 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 24-03-10 13:46, Bernhard zwischenbrugger schreef: Maybe you think 5 minutes are no problem. I based it on the minutely stuff. And as I have pointed out to some other people already. This 'yet another glue layer in database replication' still

Re: [OSM-dev] Fwd: Re: Project Proposal - Waze Integration

2010-03-24 Thread Bernhard zwischenbrugger
hi The quality of IPhone GPS-traces is well known to be bad. On iPhone 3GS the GPS is ok. The 3G has a bad GPS. Here an iPhonetrack in Phnom Penh city: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Iphone_map_with_gps_tracker.png If I do that with my hardware GPS tracker, the result is not

Re: [OSM-dev] Doing street names from aerial imagery

2010-03-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/3/24 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: On 24 March 2010 21:47, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: geometry.  A complete algorithm would have to go through each possible combination of all the routing parameters (oneways, traffic calming, label on one end, label on the other

Re: [OSM-dev] Doing street names from aerial imagery

2010-03-24 Thread John Smith
On 25 March 2010 01:06, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: You can do a lot based on aerial imagery, but even more things you can't derive from them, or you can only derive if you know that it is there. I started to map fences, walls and other barriers, but informal openings in

Re: [OSM-dev] Removing Minutely and Hourly Changesets

2010-03-24 Thread Kai Krueger
On 01/-10/-28163 08:59 PM, Bernhard zwischenbrugger wrote: hi If all the changesets would go to an xmpp stream, it would be a really easy to such a liveticker for osm. There was a site in the past where this was visible. I have created an OpenLayers implementation to visualize it. So even

[OSM-dev] hstore / db schema Was: Query-Formats

2010-03-24 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 01:30:04PM +0100, Peter Körner wrote: Hi On the osm dev-server we're playing around with the postgres-hstore extension which allows us to repond to xapi-like queries, but with already assembled LIESTRINGs and such neat things. Which is not per se a feature of

Re: [OSM-dev] Project Proposal - Waze Integration

2010-03-24 Thread peter
Hello I have proposed a student project called Incorporation of Traffic Information and OpenStreetMap data[1] , which has similar goals like the integration of waze. But deals more with the server part of the application and will be (of course) as open as openstreetmap is. regards peter

Re: [osmosis-dev] Database is empty after five days of importing

2010-03-24 Thread Klemens
I keep replying myself ;) In the meantime I dropped the whole database and started with a clean one. The import of austria.osm finished after about 100 minutes and everything seems to be in the DB. Probably the problems were due to an inconsistent state of the DB. I got 'Caused by:

Re: [OSM-dev] Project Proposal - Waze Integration

2010-03-24 Thread steve brown
Hey Peter That looks very interesting. I'm actually halfway through a proposal for the same thing (for someone else to do) but you have got it all covered. The only thing I think you have missed is thinking about the temporal aspect of your data. For instance, I want a database that I can tell

Re: [OSM-dev] GSoC: POI search

2010-03-24 Thread Mitja Kleider
Graham Jones wrote: I think that you correctly identify that fast data access is essential to have a good user experience for an interactive map. The interactive map demonstrations that are currently available can feel a bit sluggish (presumably because of XAPI response times, but I am not

Re: [OSM-dev] Project Proposal - Waze Integration

2010-03-24 Thread peter
On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 17:03 +, steve brown wrote: The only thing I think you have missed is thinking about the temporal aspect of your data. For instance, I want a database that I can tell roadworks here for 2 days or crash here, 2 hours until its cleared. Yes, your are absolutely

Re: [OSM-dev] Project Proposal - Waze Integration

2010-03-24 Thread steve brown
Oh, and OpenSatNav is moving to launchpad, the old host was unreliable. S On Mar 24, 2010 5:36 PM, peter petervo...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 17:03 +, steve brown wrote: The only thing I think you have missed is t... Yes, your are absolutely right. I forgot to add this

Re: [OSM-dev] Doing street names from aerial imagery

2010-03-24 Thread Chris Jones
On 24 Mar 2010, at 10:52, John Smith wrote: This is a routing problem, hopefully someone has already solved it. If there is a suburb of streets mapped from aerial imagery and you have several volunteers how do you work out the most efficient path for all the voluneteers to take to grab

Re: [OSM-dev] Project Proposal - Waze Integration

2010-03-24 Thread SteveC
it would be awesome to have a PND software base that fed back to OSM like waze does On Mar 24, 2010, at 1:46 AM, Graham Jones wrote: Hi Folks, A student has contacted me about a potential Google Summer of Code proposal to provide integration between OSM and Waze

Re: [osmosis-dev] Database is empty after five days of importing

2010-03-24 Thread Klemens
That makes sense. My requirement is that I must continue querying the old data while importing the new, larger data - which can take a long time as we know. How can I achieve this? On 24.03.2010 19:24, Frederik Ramm wrote: Possible, but impractical, because you would spend more time to create

Re: [OSM-dev] Project Proposal - Waze Integration

2010-03-24 Thread Eric Marsden
pr == peter petervo...@gmail.com writes: pr I have proposed a student project called Incorporation of Traffic pr Information and OpenStreetMap data[1] , which has similar goals like pr the integration of waze. But deals more with the server part of the pr application and will be (of

Re: [OSM-dev] Project Proposal - Waze Integration

2010-03-24 Thread Graham Jones
Hi, There have been a few good points raised while I have been away. I had not thought of producing a live traffic info service, but I can see it is possible. Just needs some careful up front design. The other is that the Waze client is actually a very nice little application (shame about the

[OSM-dev] GSoC - Travel Time Analysis

2010-03-24 Thread Lukas Kabrt
Hi, I would like to introduce myself. My name is Lukas Kabrt and I am student at the Czech technical university in Prague. I am maping for about a year and I'm really enjoying it. Over the past few months I participated in import of administrative boundaries and in import of address points in the

Re: [OSM-dev] GSoC - Travel Time Analysis

2010-03-24 Thread Graham Jones
Hi Lukas, I am glad you are interested in contgributing to OpenStreetMap. You will see that today there has been quite a bit of discussion on this list about collecting and analysing traffic information. I am sure you could make a valuable contribution to such a project. You are suggesting basing

Re: [OSM-dev] [Imports] Inserting OSM data

2010-03-24 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2010-03-22 12:02, Nic Roets wrote: ... Unfortunately it has already happened many times. Below is a list of the third party identifiers that I have found. ... hdop sat pdop fix vdop To pick a nit, these are likely not ids, but instead useful info provided via GPS. I recognize: hdop =

Re: [OSM-dev] Project Proposal - Waze Integration

2010-03-24 Thread steve brown
Hey I believe with a good UI (eg when the client software detects a user is going slower that expect On Mar 24, 2010 8:35 PM, Eric Marsden eric.mars...@free.fr wrote: pr == peter petervo...@gmail.com writes: pr I have proposed a student project called Incorporation of Traffic pr

Re: [OSM-dev] Project Proposal - Waze Integration

2010-03-24 Thread steve brown
Sorry, phone keeps pressing wrong buttons for me, I may give up soon... but I think given good client software this could be a valuable project. At the very least, for any support for temporal restrictions we need something like this, and OpenSatNav would be able to make good use of this,

[OSM-dev] Ruby Summer of Code

2010-03-24 Thread SteveC
http://rubysoc.org/ anyone want to see if we qualify? Yours c. Steve ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev

Re: [osmosis-dev] Database is empty after five days of importing

2010-03-24 Thread Klemens Z
You're right, it's no fun at all. Well here's what I did to try it with a smaller country excerpt (102 MB compressed) this night: nohup bzcat ~/install/osm-dumps/austria.osm.bz2 | ./osmosis-0.34/bin/osmosis --read-xml-0.6 file=- --write-apidb-0.6 populateCurrentTables=yes host=localhost

Re: [osmosis-dev] Database is empty after five days of importing

2010-03-24 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Klemens wrote: So at some time in the future when I want to import Europe into a DB that contains Austria I will have to create a delta .osm first using osmosis? Possible, but impractical, because you would spend more time to create the delta than you save by re-using the existing data.

Re: [osmosis-dev] Database is empty after five days of importing

2010-03-24 Thread Peter Körner
Am 24.03.2010 20:10, schrieb Klemens: That makes sense. My requirement is that I must continue querying the old data while importing the new, larger data - which can take a long time as we know. How can I achieve this? Import in a transaction. Peter

Re: [osmosis-dev] Database is empty after five days of importing

2010-03-24 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Klemens wrote: That makes sense. My requirement is that I must continue querying the old data while importing the new, larger data - which can take a long time as we know. How can I achieve this? I would suggest to create a second database instance (same server process, different

[josm-dev] livegps plugin

2010-03-24 Thread Elisabet Rovira
Hello, i'm a student doing my master thesis. i use an outdoor mobile robot equipped with a camera and gps, and i've been tweaking the routing plugin to accept the position given by the livegps plugin. the thing is that i want to try if it works, but as i dont have the specific gps, is

Re: [josm-dev] livegps plugin

2010-03-24 Thread Frederik Ramm
Elisabet, Elisabet Rovira wrote: i'm a student doing my master thesis. i use an outdoor mobile robot equipped with a camera and gps, and i've been tweaking the routing plugin to accept the position given by the livegps plugin. The livegps plugin does not talk to the GPS directly but uses