Re: [OSM-dev] Osmosis - sorted streams

2007-12-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Yep, they require sorted input. I should add a validation check in the code to error if non-sorted input is detected. And I should add documentation to the wiki ... I have done the latter. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00.09' E008°23.33

Re: [OSM-dev] A0 or A1 OSM map poster and other conference stuff

2008-01-10 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, I will be manning an OSM stand at the next OpenExpo(.ch) in Bern, Switzerland in March. I need a poster for that. Unfortunately, I have forgotten how people have been creating these so far. There was a postscript renderer somewhere in CVS right? Or have people been using Mapnik

Re: [OSM-dev] XSS Vulnerabilities

2008-01-14 Thread Frederik Ramm
diary here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/woodpeck/diary guaranteed harmless. har har.) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00.09' E008°23.33' ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-dev] relations in pl

2008-01-24 Thread Frederik Ramm
document that and provide tailor-made editors for these kinds of relations in JOSM, this will hopefully give us a clearer picture what people want/need in terms of relation support in editors. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00.09' E008°23.33

Re: [josm-dev] Changes to fix accidental moving

2008-01-25 Thread Frederik Ramm
in a previous step, i.e. you would not click on a node, hold the mouse button and immediately move it; instead you'd have to release the button to complete the select action, then click again to initiate the move action. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00.09

[OSM-dev] Finding ways for a node

2008-01-25 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, I must be overlooking something simple. I cannot get the API to return the ways a node is in, although this should be supported (and I can see the code in the way controller). Example: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ wget -qO- http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/0.5/way/9212234 ?xml version=1.0

Re: [OSM-dev] why does api not return nodes that are referenced from ways?

2008-02-05 Thread Frederik Ramm
network timeout situations or so but I cannot remember, you may want to check the mailing lists around that date if you're really interested. You can access the history of the way using http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/0.5/way/10660210/history Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL

Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] Error while uploading with JOSM

2008-02-07 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, The feature of the API REST interface is lots of rapid, small independent requests, which would be pretty unusual for most people. We might be able to do keep-alive. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00.09' E008°23.33

Re: [OSM-dev] disputed areas

2008-02-09 Thread Frederik Ramm
solution... Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00.09' E008°23.33' ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev

Re: [OSM-dev] disputed areas

2008-02-10 Thread Frederik Ramm
feasable) how long before people get tired of changing them? We can only hope that they spend their available brain power on petty politics instead of learning Perl... Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00.09' E008°23.33

Re: [OSM-dev] disputed areas

2008-02-10 Thread Frederik Ramm
(sadly). Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00.09' E008°23.33' ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev

[OSM-dev] Behaviour-Driven Framework

2008-02-24 Thread Frederik Ramm
to explain? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00.09' E008°23.33' ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev

Re: [OSM-dev] History of relations

2008-02-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, I'm not sure if this a true error or I'm just doing somthing wrong, because I can't imagine I'm the first one to try this. So I appologize for the latter. Yes it's broken. Most likely my fault. Looking into it. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00.09

Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] Trouble in Rangoon

2008-02-28 Thread Frederik Ramm
using my account then you'll delete all my contributions in return? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00.09' E008°23.33' ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] Trouble in Rangoon

2008-02-28 Thread Frederik Ramm
...) But I'm theoretically willing and able to at least create a prototype that we can then test-drive together. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00.09' E008°23.33' ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] Trouble in Rangoon

2008-02-28 Thread Frederik Ramm
/index.php/Changesets_and_Reverts I'd invite everybody to discuss (perhaps better on the list than on the Wiki, but each to his liking). Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00.09' E008°23.33' ___ dev mailing list dev

Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] Trouble in Rangoon

2008-02-28 Thread Frederik Ramm
number but be part of a changeset with an earlier date than A - slightly quirky but not really cause for concern. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00.09' E008°23.33' ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] Trouble in Rangoon

2008-02-28 Thread Frederik Ramm
changing a turn restriction while user X is changing the direction of one of the ways that is part of said turn restriction. -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00.09' E008°23.33' ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-dev] planet info

2008-02-28 Thread Frederik Ramm
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Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] Trouble in Rangoon

2008-02-29 Thread Frederik Ramm
on their part that they want to know where the money goes, and again, please don't feel offended but I don't want their money if this turns OSM into just another work assignement for me. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00.09' E008°23.33

Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] Trouble in Rangoon

2008-02-29 Thread Frederik Ramm
comes back. Would you be interested to help me set it up when the preconditions are right? I'd definitely give it a best effort attempt ;-) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00.09' E008°23.33' ___ dev mailing list

Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] Trouble in Rangoon

2008-02-29 Thread Frederik Ramm
was discussed in this thread. I said that the whole changeset/revert issue could likely be done on a weekend if the right people were there, to which Martijn replied that funding for such an event could be available. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00.09' E008

Re: [OSM-dev] Returning email address when authenticated by OSM API?

2008-03-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
anymore. What it does is return the user's screen name if you call /api/0.5/user/details - but that has been in there for a while now and still works... Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00.09' E008°23.33' ___ dev mailing

[OSM-dev] Mapnik Q: enhance resolution?

2008-03-09 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, I have Mapnik set up and it's generating the image I want fine. However, I would now like to double the resolution without any change in the image, i.e. I want the bitmap to look exactly the same in print, just with smoother fonts etc. Is there a way to achieve this without changing

Re: [OSM-dev] Mapnik Q: enhance resolution?

2008-03-09 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Why not use the cairo backend instead of the agg backend. Then you can render to SVG or PDF and scale it to whatever size you like and get a smooth result. Is that a matter of configuration or do I change something in the source and recompile? Which source files or documents can I read

Re: [OSM-dev] New tool to convert from OSM to SHP

2008-03-11 Thread Frederik Ramm
configurable and generally creates any type and number of shapefiles you want... Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00.09' E008°23.33' ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin

[OSM-dev] Advice sought on polygon-with-hole drawing

2008-03-13 Thread Frederik Ramm
that. Do you think this would work? I'm a bit unsure about ignoring the tags on the relation; ideally these should override tags on the outer way, if specified (or no?). But since nobody supports that anyway at the moment, I thought we can leave that for later. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail

Re: [OSM-dev] Advice sought on polygon-with-hole drawing

2008-03-13 Thread Frederik Ramm
member of another; I think you couldn't get that with evenodd. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00.09' E008°23.33' ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev

Re: [OSM-dev] Advice sought on polygon-with-hole drawing

2008-03-13 Thread Frederik Ramm
them (both in editing and rendering) Good to know. So for a lake with an island, Merkaartor only requires tags on the relation, and neither on the lake circumference way nor on the island circumference way? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00.09' E008°23.33

Re: [OSM-dev] Data donations by municipalities?

2008-03-14 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Freiburg in Germany is sympathetic to releasing local geoinformation, but a precendent case might help to convince officials (told me another official). So, are there any cases where towns or municipalities have been releasing information (especially in Germany?) I could only name Boston

[OSM-dev] Proposal: Make relations ordered

2008-03-16 Thread Frederik Ramm
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Re: [OSM-dev] Proposal: Make relations ordered

2008-03-17 Thread Frederik Ramm
in the roles stop01 to stop99 and achieve ordering through that. However this makes generic editor support even more difficult than it alreay is... Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00.09' E008°23.33' ___ dev mailing

Re: [OSM-dev] Proposal: Make relations ordered

2008-03-17 Thread Frederik Ramm
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Re: [OSM-dev] Background

2008-03-17 Thread Frederik Ramm
double careful because we assume that sooner or later some of the big guys who own the commercial data might want up and might have an interest in harming us. When it comes to that we want to give them the least possible area of attack. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [OSM-dev] Proposal: Make relations ordered

2008-03-17 Thread Frederik Ramm
confusion. It's going to straighten out eventually. We don't have a requirement to be done by a certain day. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00.09' E008°23.33' ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-dev] X-Prizes

2008-03-18 Thread Frederik Ramm
problems. I'd say try it out but keep a close eye on the mood in the community about it and pull the plug if we feel it creates more trouble than it solves. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33

Re: [OSM-dev] X-Prizes

2008-03-18 Thread Frederik Ramm
and builds heavily on non-IT examples. We could make history by trying this out on a grand scale ;-) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-dev] X-Prizes

2008-03-19 Thread Frederik Ramm
work on them and give them the warm fuzzy feeling that their contribution is really sought after. These things will find us people to do the job - money may also be a factor but I'm sure it is further down the list. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09

Re: [OSM-dev] [Fwd: Project idea for openstreetmap in Google SOC 2008]

2008-03-20 Thread Frederik Ramm
that this idea is trying to work around the non-existence of free maps; since our aim is providing free maps, the idea sounds a bit incompatible to OSM, or at least unnecessary? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33

Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM] Informations about osmarender for Google SoC

2008-03-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
perhaps not give you the 100% true result, but should definitely be good enough to fine-tune a rule file. If you chose that way, you could achieve near-realtime turnaround times, ideal for a WYSIWYG editor. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33

Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM] Informations about osmarender for Google SoC

2008-03-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
, but whehter or not the XSLT part will stay remains to be seen. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev

Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM] Informations about osmarender for Google SoC

2008-03-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
much of a detraction for you, it's perfectly fine to use the XSLT stuff for your task. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM] Informations about osmarender for Google SoC

2008-03-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
} .highway-unclassified-casing { stroke-width: 1.1*$highway_unclassified_width } or so. (Unless some future version of the CSS standard is on track to deliver this anyway?) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33

Re: [OSM-dev] Osmosis patch for filtering ways

2008-03-26 Thread Frederik Ramm
to use your more complex filter system internally, but still offer an alternative fully command-line based entry with limited functionality. So that people would not be forced to create a filter file jsut because they want railroads only. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL

Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM] Informations about osmarender for Google SoC

2008-03-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
inside your bbox. You do want the part of the forest on your map, don't you? So you must find the intersections of the forest with your bounding box and insert additional nodes along the border of the bbox in exchange for those outside that you drop. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail

Re: [OSM-dev] Altitude data (cycle) route profiles

2008-03-29 Thread Frederik Ramm
for tile servers etc.? - Not saying that any of these could be a show-stopper, it's just that such an analysis should be part of the plan. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ dev mailing list dev

Re: [OSM-dev] Odd data in daily diffs (potlatch related?)

2008-03-29 Thread Frederik Ramm
sanitizers have resolved the problem? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev

Re: [OSM-dev] Relations, landuse, and gml2osm mess

2008-03-29 Thread Frederik Ramm
, to avoid precondition failed errors. So this will fail in 50% of cases. -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev

Re: [OSM-dev] SoC project idea: Wikifikation of OSM

2008-03-30 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, I would like to contribute to wikifying OSM, that is building the features that are typical for a wiki. As is pointed out in the wiki these are mainly: - tracking of changes with user comments - enabling rollback of changes - a reputation system [...] 3.Investigate database

Re: [OSM-dev] Relations, landuse, and gml2osm mess

2008-03-30 Thread Frederik Ramm
. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev

Re: [OSM-dev] Odd data in daily diffs (potlatch related?)

2008-03-31 Thread Frederik Ramm
Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev

Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] GSoC applications are in! MENTORS wanted

2008-04-08 Thread Frederik Ramm
on it, thus avoiding importing it to OSM; *maybe* it would try to put only stuff on the tiles where OSM hasn't got its own data so this would make an nice extension to OSM without license problems. But all this is very vague at the moment. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] GSoC applications are in! MENTORS wanted

2008-04-08 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, What? Geonames allows you to move and edit data which is overlaid onto a Google Map. Go to http://www.geonames.org/maps/cities.html and click on a city. You're right, there's a move link there which I had overlooked. Nonetheless, apart from the geo location of the city I get tons of

Re: [OSM-dev] Generate complete slippy map (mapnik/generate_tiles.py)

2008-04-11 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Hang on - I doubt you've got enough disk space to do that. That's terabytes of space you'd need. I have a neat little Perl script that tells you some details about the various zoom levels. These are *theoretical* values, I'd be interested to hear from operations. Here's the output

Re: [OSM-dev] GSOC application /OSM/ Improved GPS workflow with JOSM

2008-04-11 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, I just chatted with our server admin TomH and he thinks that the gpsbabel part might best be done on the server side. It's one of his long-term ToDo things anyway. I agree. Rather than getting gpsbabel installed on every users computer, why not make it upload other formats too and

[OSM-dev] osm2pgsql fails on current data

2008-04-12 Thread Frederik Ramm
, would it help if I just changed the style file to make admin_level a text type instead of int4, or will this break other things then? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ dev mailing list dev

[OSM-dev] Mapnik dist-upgrade broke my rendering

2008-04-12 Thread Frederik Ramm
using today's osm2pgsql and replaced my old mapnik map file with a modified copy of the latest from SVN - still I get the same strange rendering. Any ideas what might be broken here? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33

Re: [OSM-dev] Mapnik dist-upgrade broke my rendering

2008-04-12 Thread Frederik Ramm
built a couple of weeks ago which does not have Kleptog's latest changes. Unlikely, since I got a similar display working with a 2-month-old database. Thanks for running the script, your output looks like what I'd like to see... Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49

Re: [OSM-dev] Polygons in OSM don't necessarily comply to simple feature specification

2008-04-16 Thread Frederik Ramm
about self-intersecting stuff once and I think the offending items are sorted out somewhere in osm2pgsql, are they not? Bye Frederik (*) The number is not high enough for my findings to be statistically significant. -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33

Re: [OSM-dev] Polygons in OSM don't necessarily comply to simple feature specification

2008-04-16 Thread Frederik Ramm
that would not intersect but if you intend to keep topology intact then you need the intersection. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-dev] Printing the slippy map

2008-04-20 Thread Frederik Ramm
it was something immanent to the technology used and not buch to be done about it... good if you managed to do something about it ;-) (The export tab of course is an even easier way to a nice print.) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33

Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] New Export Tab

2008-04-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Patrick Weber wrote: Just wanted to congratulate whoever was involved in the development of the Export tab. +1. I guess it was TomH's work and there's no reason not to announce such a major development on the lists (for the benefit of those who don't use the trac RSS feed). If it hadn't

Re: [OSM-dev] all things to all people

2008-04-22 Thread Frederik Ramm
not exactly a low-hanging fruit but not that difficult either, and the reward is not having to worry about numbers of read requests. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ dev mailing list dev

Re: [OSM-dev] all things to all people

2008-04-22 Thread Frederik Ramm
a week? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev

Re: [OSM-dev] all things to all people

2008-04-22 Thread Frederik Ramm
currently, and if it is really so close behind as 80n says, then why don't we switch? +1 for slave databases using minutely diffs. (is openstreetmap.de ready for a german mirror yet?) Don't know, I'm not involved in osm.de hardware, but I'm sure it could be arranged. Bye Frederik -- Frederik

Re: [OSM-dev] Osmosis Bug Report: Node TileIDs Incorrect

2008-04-22 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Oh crap, apparently I didn't test that bit. I never did get the mysql extensions installed to compare against. IIRC Tom said that you don't need the server extensions as there's back-up ruby code. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33

[OSM-dev] OSM Notes API, Issue Tracking (was: See Data, a UI for browsing OSM data in the main map)

2008-04-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
then I would like to register mild opposition. Let the core do the core tasks, and do everything else elsewhere. Otherwise you'll end up with geotagged images in the central database sooner or later ;-) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33

Re: [OSM-dev] OSM Notes API, Issue Tracking (was: See Data, a UI for browsing OSM data in the main map)

2008-04-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
connections? That would of course be a motive to install everything that could possibly be accessed by Potlatch on the main API, or alternatively set up all sorts of forwarders. In that case we must pray that Potlatch never supports georeferenced photos...) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL

Re: [OSM-dev] osmtools first release

2008-04-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
at a junction or whether they just pass over or under each other. This topology requirement is solved by our nodes. If you drop nodes (the completely redundand id-point assignment is removed), how do you suggest a routing engine should build its routing graph then? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm

Re: [OSM-dev] osmtools first release - nodeID

2008-04-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
would be overstretched to contain all that. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev

Re: [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch

2008-05-01 Thread Frederik Ramm
on Potlatch altogether, or if you re-did Potlatch in AS3, then that would leave me (the user) with less choice. Diversity is good. If I were in your shoes however, I might go for the $$$. $$$ is also good. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33

Re: [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch

2008-05-01 Thread Frederik Ramm
password. I'm confident this will be solved (and give us single login for other services along the way). Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-dev] 0.6 api - same story

2008-05-05 Thread Frederik Ramm
model of editors or so... Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev

Re: [OSM-dev] 0.6 api - same story

2008-05-05 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, My main interest is from an osmosis perspective which is under the further, less important stuff heading. Again it was me who put this under less important, not because I think osmosis unimportant (I use it every day) but because I thought that it does not have to by synchronized with

Re: [OSM-dev] 0.6 api - one more time

2008-05-05 Thread Frederik Ramm
and the newer ones are not! Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev

Re: [OSM-dev] 0.6 api - one more time

2008-05-05 Thread Frederik Ramm
suggestion was, however, not aiming at a parallel operation of 3 or 4 months, but much longer.) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-dev] 0.6 api - one more time

2008-05-06 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, The only think I have a problem with is backward supporting the crap in potlatch. I'm sorry but I think the Germans have trademarked using the word crap in conjunction with Potlatch. In any language ,-) Bye Frederik ___ dev mailing list

Re: [OSM-dev] 0.6

2008-05-06 Thread Frederik Ramm
whether the little bit inside is the forest or the whole rest of the sphere of the Earth is the forest. That, indeed, is left open by our way of dealing with things.) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33

Re: [OSM-dev] 0.6

2008-05-06 Thread Frederik Ramm
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Re: [OSM-dev] 0.6 api - one more time

2008-05-10 Thread Frederik Ramm
OpenOffice or something. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev

Re: [OSM-dev] svn checkout

2008-05-10 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, any solution to it ?? You can check out with --ignore-externals if you don't really need the bits that are external. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ dev mailing list dev

[OSM-dev] Stable, professional OSM - no thanks (was: 0.6 api - one more time)

2008-05-10 Thread Frederik Ramm
nor professional and this is *good for us*. There may be users who would prefer a stable and professional OSM but they will either have to put up with a fast-moving project or wait until activitiy dies down to a level they can work with. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [OSM-dev] deleting nodes/ways that are members of relations

2008-05-12 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, To consolidate these a bit, might it make sense to take a 'force deletion' parameter in the API which says 'delete this node from any way which it is a member of and remove it from any relations which it is a member of'? Firmly against. We have always tried to keep the API as dumb as

Re: [OSM-dev] JOSM exception

2008-05-12 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Alas not, but thank you for the heads up on my clock! The exception I getr is listed below. I don't quite understand where that exception comes from but I think I have a workaround in the josm-current.jar that you can download now...? Bye Frederik

Re: [OSM-dev] Thanks

2008-05-12 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Thanks for all the answers. Much appreciated. I was asking because it seems that you guys are reasonably short on developers. Maybe even seriously short ;-) Myself and a friend are interested in helping out on OSM and are both experienced C++ developers - and were wondering if there

Re: [OSM-dev] Thanks

2008-05-12 Thread Frederik Ramm
in a few months' time ;-) Lots of people are doing their own routing implementations or using existing software/algos (google for navit or pyroute, for example, or see www.openrouteservice.org) but we're still a bit away from a cool UI like Google's. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail

Re: [OSM-dev] Thanks

2008-05-12 Thread Frederik Ramm
the 10 times better performance, so who knows ;-) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev

Re: [OSM-dev] Errors in josm - plugin compile ...

2008-05-12 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Any hint/Fix is appreciated. Patched the validator to fix this. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: [OSM-dev] JOSM bug on tagging presets

2008-05-13 Thread Frederik Ramm
. It seems there is a bug in there that leads to the effects Andy has described, and I'll have to investigate that. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-dev] OSM Developer List

2008-05-13 Thread Frederik Ramm
Joerg, are you sure these people want their names published? Is there some requirement that when you publish something under GPL that everbody gets to know your real name? I think you're going a bit over the top here...? Bye Frederik ___ dev

Re: [OSM-dev] 0.6: Attribute Naming, version on nd?

2008-05-14 Thread Frederik Ramm
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Re: [OSM-dev] 0.6 API clarifications and corrections

2008-05-15 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, But isn't old_version+1 always equal to version? Under the current plan, yes. We didn't think it was reasonable to push that assumption down to the clients thought. Why would that be unreasonable? In what (futuristic) scenario would version numbers not increment monotonically one by

Re: [OSM-dev] 0.6 API clarifications and corrections

2008-05-15 Thread Frederik Ramm
and then let the user do whatever he wants, including changing an object again and again and again; since edits are not buffered by the editor but rather uploaded whenever they happen, it is inevitable to have multiple changes to the same object within the same changeset. Bye Frederik -- Frederik

Re: [OSM-dev] 0.6 API clarifications and corrections

2008-05-15 Thread Frederik Ramm
with the version smallest-1. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev

Re: [OSM-dev] 0.6 API clarifications and corrections

2008-05-15 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, I think it is the client who should filter what to present to the user. The response of the database should be as complete as possible, including sending intermediate states. I disagree. If you wanted raw access, then you can have it - just download the history of every object. You can

Re: [OSM-dev] 0.6 API clarifications and corrections

2008-05-15 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Out of interest, why's that a bad thing? We have several editors, for example: each of them works differently and presents information differently. Why do we have to have One True Rollback? We have enough trouble as it is with the small number of editors we have. I'm all for

Re: [OSM-dev] 0.6 API clarifications and corrections

2008-05-15 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, should it be as SVN in the way that the moment I touch an object in an open changeset, it is locked, so my changeset can be committed as an atom? Would be nice to have but totally unusable because everything would be constantly locked. Or seen from the other side, how do you rollback

Re: [OSM-dev] 0.6 API clarifications and corrections

2008-05-16 Thread Frederik Ramm
it gets to decide, but as I said, it doesn't even have to be decided now. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman

[OSM-dev] Problems with editor diversity (was: 0.6 API)

2008-05-16 Thread Frederik Ramm
like to limit options on the API. Maybe I'm too pessimistic or too much of a control freak. I am not normally ;-) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-dev] C++ implementation of the API

2008-05-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Writing Apache modules in C is hard I don't think so. and I don't think using mod_cpp will make it much easier. Doing Apache modules in Perl (mod_perl has API access including filters) is a lot easier. I don't know what the English would us in this situation but you might be familiar

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