Re: UsrMove feature breaking yum upgrade upgrades from older releases to F17?

2012-01-28 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Jef Spaleta jspal...@gmail.com wrote: If you haven't read the new summary write-up on the benefits of the /user feature that I think you would benefit from reading it. http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/TheCaseForTheUsrMerge If you have read it,

Re: UsrMove feature breaking yum upgrade upgrades from older releases to F17?

2012-01-28 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 01/28/2012 10:47 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: [1] Improved compatibility with Solaris - Seriously? We didn't need that level of compatibility back when Linux was a small niche, why would we care now? I feel mildly insulted by that argument. Why stop with Solaris compatibility and not mimick

Re: UsrMove feature breaking yum upgrade upgrades from older releases to F17?

2012-01-28 Thread phantomjinx
Morning people, Having just caught onto this thread about half way through and now read the various pages concerning the topic, I am still in the dark about going forward. I have 3 machines running F15 that I am upgrading to F16 shortly. I have been using yum to upgrade 2 of them since Fedora

Re: Fedora 17’s unified filesystem (/usr-move)

2012-01-28 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 5:57 PM, John Ellson john.ell...@comcast.net wrote: Another issue is that I have:    /bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory   [    1.796642] Kernel panic - not syncing:  attempted to kill

Re: Rawhide build failure (Requires: /usr/sbin/ldconfig)

2012-01-28 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/27/2012 09:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2012-01-27 at 16:36 -0500, Daniel J Walsh wrote: On 01/27/2012 04:13 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: Roland Grunberg wrote: I noticed that libselinux was just updated to have ldconfig in /usr/sbin/

Re: Rawhide build failure (Requires: /usr/sbin/ldconfig)

2012-01-28 Thread Frank Murphy
On 28/01/12 12:30, Daniel J Walsh wrote: Ok the problem with that is people like me run in rawhide all the time to try to prevent other people seeing SELinux Hickups. So the sooner I see major changes the better. Do we have a yum repository I could point at to switch my machine to the new

Re: Rolling release Fedora - fantastic idea

2012-01-28 Thread Andrew Wyatt
On 01/27/2012 10:50 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: You can make your fork of Fedora roll all you want, but please leave us in peace! Good luck! ^^ Kevin Kofler Way to represent Fedora by being a jerk. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: UsrMove feature breaking yum upgrade upgrades from older releases to F17?

2012-01-28 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 27.01.12 22:40, Kevin Kofler (kevin.kof...@chello.at) wrote: Toshio Kuratomi wrote: people targetting FHS compliant systems (unless the FHS changes) That's the biggest flaw of this feature: It violates the FHS! You know, not even its former editor seems to to believe that (or that

Re: UsrMove feature breaking yum upgrade upgrades from older releases to F17?

2012-01-28 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sat, 28.01.12 11:29, Ralf Corsepius (rc040...@freenet.de) wrote: On 01/28/2012 10:47 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: [1] Improved compatibility with Solaris - Seriously? We didn't need that level of compatibility back when Linux was a small niche, why would we care now? I feel mildly

Re: Fedora 17’s unified filesystem (/usr-move)

2012-01-28 Thread John Ellson
On 01/28/2012 06:48 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 5:57 PM, John Ellsonjohn.ell...@comcast.net wrote: Another issue is that I have: /bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [1.796642] Kernel

Re: UsrMove feature breaking yum upgrade upgrades from older releases to F17?

2012-01-28 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 11:27 +, phantomjinx wrote: Morning people, Having just caught onto this thread about half way through and now read the various pages concerning the topic, I am still in the dark about going forward. I have 3 machines running F15 that I am upgrading to F16

Re: Rawhide build failure (Requires: /usr/sbin/ldconfig)

2012-01-28 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 07:30 -0500, Daniel J Walsh wrote: On 01/27/2012 09:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2012-01-27 at 16:36 -0500, Daniel J Walsh wrote: On 01/27/2012 04:13 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: Roland Grunberg wrote: I noticed that libselinux was just updated to have ldconfig

Re: Rolling release Fedora - fantastic idea

2012-01-28 Thread Robert 'Bob' Jensen
- Andrew Wyatt and...@fuduntu.org wrote: Way to represent Fedora by being a jerk. Way to represent Fedora by being a jerk. Next time try to be excellent to each other. Two things I personally get tired of reading. A rhetorical question comes to mind Would you rather he was excellent to

Re: Rolling release Fedora - fantastic idea

2012-01-28 Thread Andrew Wyatt
On 01/28/2012 10:35 AM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: - Andrew Wyattand...@fuduntu.org wrote: Way to represent Fedora by being a jerk. Way to represent Fedora by being a jerk. Next time try to be excellent to each other. Two things I personally get tired of reading. A rhetorical question

Re: Rolling release Fedora - fantastic idea

2012-01-28 Thread Robert 'Bob' Jensen
- Andrew Wyatt and...@fuduntu.org wrote: I didn't call him a jerk because he disagreed about the potential of Fedora as a rolling release. I called him a jerk for being a jerk. I offered nothing but praise for Fedora, and he started the response with just go away. There is a

Re: Rolling release Fedora - fantastic idea

2012-01-28 Thread Jos Vos
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:15:11AM -0600, Andrew Wyatt wrote: Back on topic. It wouldn't continue to come up if people didn't see value in it. Simply discarding the idea because a lot of developers feel that it's a waste of time is not valid criticism of the idea. If you can't count how

Re: Rolling release Fedora - fantastic idea

2012-01-28 Thread Andrew Wyatt
On 01/28/2012 11:23 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 11:15:11 -0600 Andrew Wyattand...@fuduntu.org wrote: ...snip... Back on topic. It wouldn't continue to come up if people didn't see value in it. Simply discarding the idea because a lot of developers feel that it's a waste of

Re: Rolling release Fedora - fantastic idea

2012-01-28 Thread Andrew Wyatt
On 01/28/2012 10:59 AM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: - Andrew Wyattand...@fuduntu.org wrote: I didn't call him a jerk because he disagreed about the potential of Fedora as a rolling release. I called him a jerk for being a jerk. I offered nothing but praise for Fedora, and he started the

Re: Rolling release Fedora - fantastic idea

2012-01-28 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 07:41:47AM -0600, Andrew Wyatt wrote: On 01/27/2012 10:50 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: You can make your fork of Fedora roll all you want, but please leave us in peace! Good luck! ^^ Kevin Kofler Way to represent Fedora by being a jerk. Just as a reminder,

Re: UsrMove feature breaking yum upgrade upgrades from older releases to F17?

2012-01-28 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
2012/1/28 Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de: Why stop with Solaris compatibility and not mimick Windows? No /usr, no /bin = /redhat. Seems to be the spirit behind all this. Ralf The rhetoric spoils the argument. Various people inside of Red Hat are either for this, against this, wanting to

Re: Fedora 17’s unified filesystem (/usr-move)

2012-01-28 Thread John Ellson
On 01/27/2012 05:57 PM, John Ellson wrote: On 01/27/2012 08:10 AM, Harald Hoyer wrote: Hello Testers and rawhide Users, Fedora 17 will locate the entire base operating system in /usr. The directories /bin, /sbin, /lib, /lib64 will only be symlinks: /bin → /usr/bin /sbin → /usr/sbin

Re: Fedora 17’s unified filesystem (/usr-move)

2012-01-28 Thread Garrett Holmstrom
On 2012-01-27 5:10, Harald Hoyer wrote: Any files with conflicting names, which the conversion could not resolve, will be backed up to files named *.usrmove~ residing in /usr/lib, /usr/lib64, /usr/bin and /usr/sbin. To which file does the conversion script append this suffix when it resolves

Re: Rolling release Fedora - fantastic idea

2012-01-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 01/28/2012 05:40 AM, Andrew Wyatt wrote: I read the list thread concerning a Fedora rolling release distribution, and I found it interesting enough to compel me to join the list and weigh in. First, I think a rolling release Fedora is a fantastic idea. I'm certain that it's possible,

Re: Rolling release Fedora - fantastic idea

2012-01-28 Thread Genes MailLists
On 01/28/2012 12:23 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 11:15:11 -0600 Andrew Wyatt and...@fuduntu.org wrote: ...snip... ... I think the way forward is the one I outlined in: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-January/161632.html Until those interested can

Re: Rolling release Fedora - fantastic idea

2012-01-28 Thread Robert 'Bob' Jensen
- Genes MailLists li...@sapience.com wrote: Possibly - but without the support from at least some of the Fedora core team (fesco, board, key redhatters etc) and possibly some on the RH business side recognizing some potential benefit in the enterprise setting, this is quite likely

Re: Rolling release Fedora - fantastic idea

2012-01-28 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 01/28/2012 04:26 PM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: Gene, forgive me while I go off on a slight tangent forking the thread. I do not thing it is worthwhile for them to do so. There may already be a document somewhere on the wiki on this topic. It will never be found because since the day

Re: Rolling release Fedora - fantastic idea

2012-01-28 Thread Noah Hall
Fuduntu Dev here. I'm not going to bore you all on how great rolling is, and how it's a great model that works for everyone - I'll assume the good folks of Fedora have already researched many different models. Instead, what I'm going to talk about is the feasibility and the logistics. Fuduntu

Re: Rawhide build failure (Requires: /usr/sbin/ldconfig)

2012-01-28 Thread Kevin Kofler
Daniel J Walsh wrote: Oops, I thought we could build packages now. I also built an updated policycoreutils... And why didn't you untag the darn package? All our daily live image builds failed today because of this! I moved your build to the f17-usrmove tag where it belongs. (Any packager

Re: Rolling release Fedora - fantastic idea

2012-01-28 Thread Kevin Kofler
Andrew Wyatt wrote: I didn't call him a jerk because he disagreed about the potential of Fedora as a rolling release. I called him a jerk for being a jerk. I offered nothing but praise for Fedora, and he started the response with just go away. After seeing you boast about how at Fuduntu we

Re: Rolling release Fedora - fantastic idea

2012-01-28 Thread Phone contacts
I thought you didn't speak for the community. I'm sorry if forking hurt your feelings, but there really were only two options. Go forward and rework everything for 15 or 16, or fork. Fedora 14 was EOS, remember? Besides, you have no right and no business telling me where I am or am not

Re: Rolling release Fedora - fantastic idea

2012-01-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 01/29/2012 06:12 AM, Noah Hall wrote: Fuduntu Dev here. I'm not going to bore you all on how great rolling is, and how it's a great model that works for everyone - I'll assume the good folks of Fedora have already researched many different models. Instead, what I'm going to talk about is

Re: F17 proposal - prerelease version name changes

2012-01-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 01/28/2012 07:30 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: It may, however, be worth doing something with the naming of TCs / RCs, as has been proposed in the past, because they do seem to confuse people. Every TC and RC announcement should have a brief blurb on who it is targeting and whats the exact

Re: F17 proposal - prerelease version name changes

2012-01-28 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 11:14 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 01/28/2012 07:30 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: It may, however, be worth doing something with the naming of TCs / RCs, as has been proposed in the past, because they do seem to confuse people. Every TC and RC announcement

File Directory-Queue-1.5.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by stevetraylen

2012-01-28 Thread stevetraylen
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Directory-Queue: 5be9ae874aa49bf6f5ba64d33d99ed07 Directory-Queue-1.5.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Directory-Queue] Update to 1.5 rhbz#785073.

2012-01-28 Thread stevetraylen
commit 9d4ba5e1779fb20f1c67fa8f2fedc5ce87f39457 Author: Steve Traylen steve.tray...@cern.ch Date: Sat Jan 28 11:13:00 2012 +0100 Update to 1.5 rhbz#785073. .gitignore|1 + perl-Directory-Queue.spec |7 +-- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 7

[perl-Directory-Queue] Created tag perl-Directory-Queue-1.5-1.fc17

2012-01-28 Thread stevetraylen
The unsigned tag 'perl-Directory-Queue-1.5-1.fc17' was created. Tagger: Steve Traylen steve.tray...@cern.ch Date: Sat Jan 28 11:13:37 2012 +0100 Update to 1.5 rhbz#785073. Changes since the last tag 'perl-Directory-Queue-1.4-1.fc16': Dennis Gilmore (1): - Rebuilt for

[perl-Directory-Queue/f16] (2 commits) ...Update to 1.5 rhbz#785073.

2012-01-28 Thread stevetraylen
Summary of changes: 1418423... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Mass (*) 9d4ba5e... Update to 1.5 rhbz#785073. (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl

[perl-Directory-Queue] Created tag perl-Directory-Queue-1.5-1.fc16

2012-01-28 Thread stevetraylen
The unsigned tag 'perl-Directory-Queue-1.5-1.fc16' was created. Tagger: Steve Traylen steve.tray...@cern.ch Date: Sat Jan 28 11:15:15 2012 +0100 Update to 1.5 rhbz#785073. Changes since the last tag 'perl-Directory-Queue-1.4-1.fc16': Dennis Gilmore (1): - Rebuilt for

[perl-Directory-Queue/el6] (3 commits) ...Update to 1.5 rhbz#785073.

2012-01-28 Thread stevetraylen
Summary of changes: 1418423... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Mass (*) 9d4ba5e... Update to 1.5 rhbz#785073. (*) 3331d84... Update to 1.5 rhbz#785073. (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG

[perl-Directory-Queue] Created tag perl-Directory-Queue-1.5-1.el6

2012-01-28 Thread stevetraylen
The unsigned tag 'perl-Directory-Queue-1.5-1.el6' was created. Tagger: Steve Traylen steve.tray...@cern.ch Date: Sat Jan 28 11:16:44 2012 +0100 Update to 1.5 rhbz#785073. Changes since the last tag 'perl-Directory-Queue-1.4-1.el6': Dennis Gilmore (1): - Rebuilt for

[perl-Directory-Queue/el6: 3/3] Update to 1.5 rhbz#785073.

2012-01-28 Thread stevetraylen
commit 3331d84f63da451f6ce574f7c6ed8682d57c776e Merge: 03c5164 9d4ba5e Author: Steve Traylen steve.tray...@cern.ch Date: Sat Jan 28 11:16:28 2012 +0100 Update to 1.5 rhbz#785073. .gitignore|1 + perl-Directory-Queue.spec |5 - sources |2

[perl-Directory-Queue/el5] (14 commits) ...Merge branch 'el6' into el5

2012-01-28 Thread stevetraylen
Summary of changes: 10ad12b... Initialize branch EL-6 for perl-Directory-Queue (*) 7e053f1... Populate branches: #607355 (*) fb47d34... Forgot the .spec file. (*) 11e99d5... Bump release due to my mitake. (*) 7e1c4f3... dist-git conversion (*) ec67560... Merge branch 'master' into el6

[perl-Directory-Queue] Created tag perl-Directory-Queue-1.5-1.el5

2012-01-28 Thread stevetraylen
The unsigned tag 'perl-Directory-Queue-1.5-1.el5' was created. Tagger: Steve Traylen steve.tray...@cern.ch Date: Sat Jan 28 11:17:32 2012 +0100 Update to 1.5 rhbz#785073. Changes since the last tag 'perl-Directory-Queue-1.4-1.el5': Dennis Gilmore (1): - Rebuilt for

[perl-Directory-Queue/el5: 14/14] Merge branch 'el6' into el5

2012-01-28 Thread stevetraylen
commit 4ce1fa89e6d4c5f0bfd899ec71236ebadab6959f Merge: 1d6494b 3331d84 Author: Steve Traylen steve.tray...@cern.ch Date: Sat Jan 28 11:17:18 2012 +0100 Merge branch 'el6' into el5 .gitignore|1 + perl-Directory-Queue.spec |5 - sources |2

[Bug 785073] Upgrade to new upstream version

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[Bug 785073] Upgrade to new upstream version

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[Bug 785073] Upgrade to new upstream version

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[Bug 785363] New: perl-Glib-Object-Introspection-0.006 is available

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[Bug 785361] New: perl-Archive-RPM-0.07 is available

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[Bug 785365] New: perl-MogileFS-Client-1.15 is available

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[Bug 785366] New: perl-MogileFS-Utils-2.22 is available

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[Bug 785364] New: perl-Module-Install-ExtraTests-0.007 is available

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[Bug 785073] Upgrade to new upstream version

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Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=785073 Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org changed: What|Removed |Added