On Tue, 2012-01-31 at 10:52 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Bill Nottingham (nott...@redhat.com) said:
Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) said:
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 1:06 AM, Martin Langhoff
martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote:
But you can add:
Provides: /bin/foo
Ugh! Will
On Tue, 2012-01-31 at 11:03 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) said:
To be precise:
[root@nostromo ~]# mv /bin /cow
[root@nostromo ~]# /cow/ln -s /cow /bin
[root@nostromo ~]# rpm -qf /cow/bash
bash-4.2.20-1.fc16.x86_64
[root@nostromo ~]# rpm -qf
On Tue, 2012-01-31 at 15:58 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
James Antill (ja...@fedoraproject.org) said:
[root@nostromo ~]# mv /bin /cow
[root@nostromo ~]# /cow/ln -s /cow /bin
[root@nostromo ~]# rpm -qf /cow/bash
bash-4.2.20-1.fc16.x86_64
[root@nostromo ~]# rpm -qf /bin/bash
On Mon, 2012-01-30 at 15:47 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Martin Langhoff (martin.langh...@gmail.com) said:
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Harald Hoyer har...@redhat.com wrote:
Fedora 17 will locate the entire base operating system in /usr. The
directories
/bin, /sbin, /lib, /lib64
On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 08:54 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Peter Robinson (pbrobin...@gmail.com) said:
Great idea, I would also love to see a clear out of the packages that
aren't core/part of particular categories. MTAs in minimal would be
one that comes to mind but there's lots of other
On Mon, 2011-10-24 at 18:56 +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
Hi,
I would like to know if it is possible to block grub2 update? I tried
to use versionlock but unfortunately this does not work. Do anyone
knows some other effective way to block this update?
versionlock doesn't stop obsoletes
On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 19:42 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
There's really nothing special about a package manager I assure you.
Assuming, for a moment, that You; Seth and I are all equally
experienced in package management and that while you would assure
that, we would ... not.
Given that, I'm
On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 21:48 -0700, Jorge Gallegos wrote:
So, I gather no one can shed some light on this? anyone? bueller?
The bug (point #2) doesn't really stop the plugin from working, but it is
annoying.
Any help would be much appreciated
You'd probably have been better off mailing
On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 09:19 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
On 7/27/11 2:03 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
In this case, the bad rpm-build broke koji builds, and since Rawhide
may eat babies, it can happen that Rawhide users need downgrade manually
while they have to wait for the fixed rpm-build.
On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 23:46 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Tue, 26.07.11 17:16, James Antill (ja...@fedoraproject.org) wrote:
Perhaps it's because in %postun it has systemctl try-restart
sshd.service where it used to have service sshd condrestart, and
systemd kills all running
On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 21:28 +0100, Paul Howarth wrote:
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 16:13:59 -0400
Dave Jones da...@redhat.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 06:22:50PM +0200, Jim Meyering wrote:
FYI, I've just yum-updated my rawhide VM to the latest
(but not from the console) and was
On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 18:28 +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Ric Wheeler rwhee...@redhat.com wrote:
I normally build systems with (at least!) a separate /boot, / and /home.
This lets me do a full install, blow away old fedora system partitions and
not lose any
On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 19:23 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Florian Festi wrote:
I think if anybody can come up with a exact description how they should
look like and how they should work and can create some evidence that
this is want we need and want implementing them is not the problem[*].
On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 01:48 +0800, Yin Qiu wrote:
Hi,
I'm Yin from China. As the subject line says, I'd like to apply for
the summer project of adding automatic repo discovery for yum. I've
personally contacted Roland McGrath, who is supposed to be the mentor
for this project, and he told
On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 22:38 +0100, Jim Meyering wrote:
Hi,
With some effort, and help from the guys on #anaconda@freenode (thanks!),
today I finally installed a bare-metal F15 system (part of the complication
was my existing partitions).
Then I updated it to rawhide. However, the whole
On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 20:49 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Tue, 8 Feb 2011 20:00:44 -0500
Josh Boyer jwbo...@gmail.com wrote:
I believe this wiki page should have been included in the announce
mail:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_15_Mass_Rebuild
For those that don't
On Fri, 2011-01-21 at 22:54 -0800, Garrett Holmstrom wrote:
It seems that the core yum group pulls in X11 libraries, at the very
least on x86_64, via the following dependency chain:
policycoreutils
dbus-glib
gobject-introspection
cairo
libX11
It's probably worth noting that the yum
On Fri, 2010-12-03 at 10:24 +0100, Fabio M. Di Nitto wrote:
Hi all,
I am seeking some help here to solve a possible $subject. I have been
trying to find a simple alternate solution, but I just can´t see it or
it´s not obvious to me.
This is the situation:
srpm foo 1.0 ships 2 rpm´s bar
On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 10:19 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 17:18:44 +0100,
Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com wrote:
W dniu 21 listopada 2010 12:13 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski
mkkp...@gmail.com napisał:
We can create a list of all scripts in wiki and
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 13:39 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 03:58:26PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Wed, 24.11.10 03:02, Toshio Kuratomi (a.bad...@gmail.com) wrote:
A question I'd have when looking over a proposed packaging guideline would
be: why %ghost
at the end ... you've probably failed. It
might seem like a good idea, but even if you go to the extreme lengths
needed to make it just for yum ... things like reposync won't be able to
use it, Eg.
http://james.fedorapeople.org/python/delta-rpm-dir.py
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On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 10:17 -0500, Andre Robatino wrote:
James Antill wrote:
IMO, as has been said before, if you have a delta method that doesn't
produce the exact same bits at the end ... you've probably failed. It
might seem like a good idea, but even if you go to the extreme lengths
On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 15:07 -0400, Matt McCutchen wrote:
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 08:13 -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
I have been trying to get system processes to stop using /tmp for years.
http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/11467.html
As some one who lives with polyinstatiated namespace
On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 12:18 +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 02:32:52PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
You want the libcap-ng-utils RPMs which provides a bunch of useful tools
for this, filecap,
, AIUI)? I
thought someone mentioned noatime...
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On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 16:00 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Mon, 2010-10-11 at 11:11 -0400, Chris Lumens wrote:
- suggests a username and hostname based on the user's real name
(Mac OS X's installer also does this -- it's a nice touch)
If DNS knows a hostname, we will suggest that.
On Thu, 2010-09-30 at 22:45 +0100, Richard Fearn wrote:
Hi,
I have yum-updatesd installed on a headless Fedora server, so every so
often I get the email saying there are updates available.
The email itself doesn't tell me much about the updates (e.g. for
iproute tonight it said it was a
On Thu, 2010-09-23 at 01:29 +0200, Björn Persson wrote:
Michał Piotrowski wrote:
2010/9/21 Björn Persson bj...@xn--rombobjrn-67a.se:
How hard would it be to cherry-pick from this backports repository? To
install a newer Firefox from there for example, but keep the PostgreSQL
from the
On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 18:37 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
On 17 September 2010 16:39, FlorianFesti ffe...@redhat.com wrote:
open the payload and unpack the content of the desktop files...
I got told by infrastructure this would take too much bandwidth and
too much time to do on each compose.
On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 10:57 +0200, drago01 wrote:
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote:
On 13 September 2010 21:49, James Antill ja...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
So Seth spent half a day implementing a proof of concept:
http://skvidal.wordpress.com/2010
On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 16:57 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
On 16 September 2010 15:01, James Antill ja...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Err ... PackageKit is currently the cross distro. way to work with
distro. package managers, nothing outside of that layer should ever know
(or care) where
On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 16:38 +0200, FlorianFesti wrote:
So I would suggest an UI that gives a summery (Didn't we already have
that in the past?) and offers 3 buttons:
[Show/Hide Details] [Do not install updates now] [Install updates now]
The first being a toggle button hiding/showing the
On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 22:39 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
On 13 September 2010 21:49, James Antill ja...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
So Seth spent half a day implementing a proof of concept:
http://skvidal.wordpress.com/2010/08/19/fedora-app-market-proof-of-concept/
Translations?
They were
/fedora-app-market-proof-of-concept/
To repeat _nobody_, that I know of, is arguing that we shouldn't do
something. The problem is in rushing from there to XYZ is something. We
should do XYZ.
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I'd just like to see a realistic approach to updates via
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 14:17 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
On 7 September 2010 14:11, seth vidal skvi...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
okay - I'll bite - why do we want to make it less distro-specific?
For the same reason as pirut and pup were replaced. Fedora is *not* a
big enough ecosystem to
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 15:42 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
On 7 September 2010 15:23, James Antill ja...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Are you having any discussions about applications like postfix, or is
version 2 going to be just GUI stuff?
Postfix is not an application. Applications have
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 16:54 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
On 7 September 2010 16:39, James Antill ja...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
However this is very much the same problem as a user trying to find
sql server and getting results like voms-mysql-plugin etc. If you
intentionally ignore
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 11:48 -0400, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:39 AM, James Antill ja...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 15:42 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
On 7 September 2010 15:23, James Antill ja...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Are you having any
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 17:41 -0700, J. Randall Owens wrote:
On 09/07/2010 05:33 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
Problem with yum - I cannot seem to find the equivalent of the --test
rpm option ?
Well you can do:
yum blah --setopt=tsflags=test
...which is exactly --test, including running the
a
single letter for the dist seems overly space optimizing ... if you just
want to remove all references to Fedora Core, propose it changes to
fed14 or even just rename what the c stands for (like the GCC rename).
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assuming we could make sure that does the correct thing (it
probably would but I know it's not tested :), adding 40,000 obsoletes to
the repo. is ... let's say: unlikely to make yum faster.
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On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 17:16 +0200, drago01 wrote:
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote:
Once upon a time, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com said:
And as the general rule goes native configuration breaks legacy
configuration so if a native systemd
On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 10:58 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) said:
Since the acceptance by FESCO it has been added to Rawhide together with
patched or updated versions of a few related packages. However, what has
not been done so far is making it the
interested to get upgraded systems to use systemd as
well, which is why I'd really like to go the Obsoletes way, and use a
versioned Obsoletes, so that we can switch back to upstart if we want to
by another versioned Obsoletes, but this time from upstart. (which is
exactly what James Antill
On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 21:08 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Wed, 14.07.10 14:24, Jeff Garzik (jgar...@pobox.com) wrote:
/etc/systemd/system. You could do this:
/etc/systemd/system/default.target → /lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target
to avoid the graphical UI, and boot into
On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 22:38 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Wed, 14.07.10 16:03, James Antill (ja...@fedoraproject.org) wrote:
Or you could just parse inittab and notice when runlevel 3 was listed.
Keeps everything nice and compatible, including existing manuals and
books
On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 23:19 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Wed, 14.07.10 17:01, James Antill (ja...@fedoraproject.org) wrote:
But your runlevel is not a service configuration, so I see no reason
why you couldn't say if there is an 'id:blah:' line in inittab that's
authoritative
this :)
Or:
yum install
http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/GitPython/0.2.0/0.1.beta1.fc13/noarch/GitPython-0.2.0-0.1.beta1.fc13.noarch.rpm
...if you don't want the rpmdb warnings, and missing yumdb etc. data
that is the reason for them.
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. The provider for that is the libjpeg package.
3. The libjpeg package is obsoleted by libjpeg-turbo.
4. But, libjpeg-turbo doesn't provide libjpeg, which is the
requirement we are doing all this for ... so ignore the obsolete and
install libjpeg.
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.
enabled.
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e.g. update or check-update
on only critpath updates might be interesting for people only interested
in critpath testing.
I thought the idea was that critpath packages would be in a critpath
group in comps?
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On Tue, 2010-06-22 at 23:26 +0200, Thomas Spura wrote:
How about this?
import os
p = set()
for pkg in os.popen('repoquery --whatrequires --alldeps python(abi) =
2.6'):
pkg = pkg.strip()
print Checking %s % pkg
p.add(os.popen('repoquery -s %s' % pkg).read().strip())
.
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On Wed, 2010-06-09 at 18:08 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 15:38:48 +0100, Stu wrote:
I implemented it based on recommendations on the yum wiki that I saw
someone else referred to in #fedora-devel :
http://yum.baseurl.org/wiki/YumPackageUpdates#Packagesplit
Well,
.
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to remove part of a metapackage, you have to remove the
metapackage itself ... and thus. lose the only advantage they have.
9. There's no way to make them different for different spins.
10. There's no way to extend them from other repos.
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On Fri, 2010-06-04 at 05:04 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
James Antill wrote:
2. There's no way to do the groupremove operation, easily.
The groupremove operation is completely and utterly broken by design anyway:
It doesn't act perfectly, in all cases, no.
[...]
Try groupremoving gnome
consider noise and why? Most of them
look valid to me, though they are indeed nits.
The self obsolete ones are wrong, being able to do:
Name: foo
Provide: bar = 2
Obsolete: bar = 2
...is completely legal and needed for rename/merging which is why yum
has them.
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On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 23:15 +0300, Ville Skyttä wrote:
On Wednesday 02 June 2010, James Antill wrote:
The self obsolete ones are wrong, being able to do:
Name: foo
Provide: bar = 2
Obsolete: bar = 2
...is completely legal and needed for rename/merging
Yes (assuming you mean
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 17:27 +0100, Jonathan Underwood wrote:
On 27 May 2010 16:43, Jonathan Underwood jonathan.underw...@gmail.com wrote:
I've just seen exactly the same thing with a system going from F12 to
F13 with preupgrade. BZ filed here:
it shouldn't be a hugely horrible problem after a few
days/weeks, as most of the updates will get pushed or superseded.
That too, one advantage of the firehose is it will make you clean
pretty quickly ;)
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Thankfully all the giant flamewars and new policies didn't make anyone
think twice about the users, as we already have 140 updates with a
combined size of _over_ 750MB on x86_64, biggest 5 are:
6.2M wesnoth-1.8.1-1.fc13.x86_64.rpm
12M hanazono-fonts-20100222-2.fc13.noarch.rpm
48M
On Tue, 2010-05-11 at 10:30 +0200, H. Guémar wrote:
It is not part of a default package set.
Even if it were, blocking bugfixes in order to reduce updates size is
nothing but stupid.
It wasn't bugfixes, it was a new upstream release, and yes size does
matter. All mirrors, public and
On Tue, 2010-05-11 at 08:29 -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
On 05/11/2010 01:14 AM, James Antill wrote:
Thankfully all the giant flamewars and new policies didn't make anyone
think twice about the users, as we already have 140 updates with a
combined size of _over_ 750MB on x86_64, biggest 5
On Tue, 2010-05-11 at 19:10 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 05/11/2010 07:03 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
On Tue, 2010-05-11 at 18:44 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 05/11/2010 06:27 PM, James Antill wrote:
As I said in another reply, there are currently no deltarpms for
wesnoth-data due
On Fri, 2010-05-07 at 20:05 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
What worries me is that it was always my understanding, and I think the
understanding of others, that the hall monitoring policy does not grant
hall monitors the power to shut down threads they judge to be
repetitive. My understanding
have sorted the pkgs at the end, sorry.
Am I going blind, or did you fail to paste the URL?:)
I did a current vs. rawhide one, a ages ago:
http://james.fedorapeople.org/yum/commands/yum-newer-than-rawhide.py
...which should probably be merged with the inter distro. one, at some
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probably do a bit more to get
more info. ... but again, it would be trivial in comparison to the work
needed on the server side (and to get people to install it etc.)
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?
If so I'm 99% sure I've found the bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=585424
Langpacks goes on crack in LANG=C, for removals _and_ updated,
removing everything
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that in rawhide gnome-session now requires polkit-gnome
explicitly, so this is mostly irrelevant for the default desktop.
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http://yum.baseurl.org/wiki/whatsnew/3.2.28
http://yum.baseurl.org/wiki/YumMultipleMachineCaching
(the timestamp comparison fix to
cover changes added on the same day).
Sorry for that, I thought I'd fixed it when I closed it!
Anyway, just built a new yum-utils HEAD (which includes the repodiff
fix) in rawhide:
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=2115503
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think the scheme used by tor and wine is the most
prevalent, and most obvious to users ... but I'd be happy with anything
being the std.
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http://yum.baseurl.org/wiki
is to say, no.
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On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 00:03 +0100, Paul wrote:
Hi,
I've been away from my pc for the last couple of days and have come back
to find a problem.
When I try to do an update from yum, I'm getting the following error
Error: Cannot retrieve metalink for repository: rawhide. Please verify
its
). Finding the file
conflicts automatically is harder (you need to download all the rpms),
and it's not fast, but it's possible (Seth has a script, IIRC).
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On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 00:05 +, Jonathan Underwood wrote:
On 9 March 2010 21:54, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote:
===
#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2010-03-09)
===
Meeting started by nirik at 20:00:01 UTC. The full
email you if the update
is removed? If not I'd say create a bodhi RFE ... but apart from that
I'm not sure how a push notification could occur.
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http://yum.baseurl.org/wiki
-kit-and-changing-settings/
but even after doing that it is still the same and yum install
package asks for root password.
The feature was added to PackageKit not yum ... so you need to use
pkcon, not yum.
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On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 17:55 +0100, Johan Cwiklinski wrote:
Hello,
I have a small question regarding a configuration file for BackupPC.
BackupPC requires a file for apache users. This file is referenced in
/etc/httpd/conf.d/BackupPC.conf and points to
/usr/share/BackupPC/apache.users.
I
On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 00:14 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 20:19:48 -0800, Jesse wrote:
Extras had significantly fewer packages,
Well, Fedora Extras 6 (x86_64) contained 5129 packages, which is only 300 less
than F11 stable updates.
On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 18:30 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 20:11 -0500, James Antill wrote:
On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 00:14 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
Well, Fedora Extras 6 (x86_64) contained 5129 packages, which is only 300
less
than F11 stable updates.
http
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 07:52 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
James Antill wrote:
This isn't a hard problem, 3.0 should then be marked as a security
update.
But the case we're discussing is that 3.0 was pushed long before it was
known that it happens to fix a security vulnerability. We're
your system is secure, and
that's all that --security guarantees (and it has made minimal
updates, it's just that minimal is bigger than with say RHEL/CentOS).
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On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 17:09 +0100, Till Maas wrote:
On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 11:02:51AM -0500, James Antill wrote:
If we had less updates, that changed less things and required more
testing before pushing them to users ... this would be entirely
possible.
Less updates mean more changes
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 19:43 +0100, Thomas Janssen wrote:
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote:
Thomas Janssen (thom...@fedoraproject.org) said:
As i said before. Nobody holds a gun on my head and tells me you have
to update that packages. If you dont want
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 20:33 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Peter Jones wrote:
On 03/03/2010 01:17 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Mathieu Bridon wrote:
In the end, I think the question is not about giving users what users
want (be it frequent updates or stalled releases), but giving users
what we
On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 11:22 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
James Antill wrote:
It's still not really usable by normal users, but people on this list
can install yum-plugin-local ... which will make sure you can do
downgrades like this.
Isn't keepcache=yes sufficient? IMHO that should really
.
But that's not a cost for the maintainer (unless the regression breaks
his/her own system). :-)
Indeed, this comment does seem to epitomize your argument.
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On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 10:59 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
James Antill wrote:
So I did my proposal, which I think will motivate packagers to do the
right thing (giving lots of choice to the users and a reasonable number
of packages to test) and not removing the ability of packagers to do
.
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On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 10:57 -0500, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote:
James Antill ja...@fedoraproject.org writes:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Lifecycle_Proposals#Choice_.28james.29
Regarding this, I don't understand this part:
The idea behind this proposal is that a Fedora user
On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 12:08 -0500, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote:
James Antill ja...@fedoraproject.org writes:
[...]
...but they have almost no options if they are happy to stay with
the software that they have.
Doesn't just not running random/unrestricted yum update exactly
encode
'initscripts' package, then
tor would still require[1] syslog, cpio, e2fsprogs, ethtool, mount, ...
You are joking, right? I mean apart from the fact that there is a
_huge_ difference between requiring mount and libX* ... the _kernel_
requires the package initscripts is installed.
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doubt any users know about.
I've sent a query to security@ to clarify.
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to test) and not removing the ability of packagers to do
what they want (and have the stable firehose):
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Lifecycle(draft)#Choice_.28james.29
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-update hit 19 packages, and only 7 can be
downgraded by yum-history-undo.
It's still not really usable by normal users, but people on this list
can install yum-plugin-local ... which will make sure you can do
downgrades like this.
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¹ We also have an optimisation for large updates, that we can probably
turn on for F13.
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forced to do it some of the time and guaranteeing that the
firehose breaks it _every_ release for _every_ user.
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this that I can remember, the obvious fix
to the above is having two repos. and let everyone who wants a giant
firehose of mostly working stuff can enable this second repo. if only we
could create this testing of the updates repo. surely everyone would
be happy.
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thinking about it (rawhide is = that way, have fun
IMNSHO).
And that's just from my users perspective, I'm sure I'd bring the
smackdown much harder if I had to wade through the $...@! that rel-eng
does.
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