Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2023-11-09)

2023-11-21 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Nov 16, 2023, 9:05 AM Stephen Smoogen wrote: > > > On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 at 07:46, Kevin Kofler via devel < > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > >> Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: >> > This is called "shooting the messenger". >> >> It is not. See my reply to Fabio. >> >> > LSB

Re: An update on RHEL moving to issues.redhat.com

2023-09-10 Thread Josh Boyer
On Sat, Sep 9, 2023 at 4:17 AM Sandro wrote: > > On 09-09-2023 05:33, Brendan Conoboy wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 8, 2023 at 7:34 PM Maxwell G wrote: > > > >> 2023-09-09T01:05:39Z Brendan Conoboy : > >> > >>> All new issues found or desired in RHEL (Or CentOS Stream) need to be > >>> filed on

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in August

2023-07-25 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 11:44 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Josh Boyer: > > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 10:53 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > >> > >> On 25. 07. 23 16:42, Florian Weimer wrote: > >> > * Miro Hrončok: > >> > > >> >

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in August

2023-07-25 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 10:53 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 25. 07. 23 16:42, Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Miro Hrončok: > > > >> glibc32 codonell, fweimer, jakub, mcermak > > > > Is this about FTBFS issues? There isn't any recent build failure in > > Koji, so I

Re: What is Fedora?

2023-06-23 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Jun 23, 2023, 3:20 PM Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Fri, Jun 23 2023 at 01:27:24 PM -0400, Josh Boyer > wrote: > > Which means equivalent fixes are in CentOS Stream and anyone wanting > > to recreate exactly what is in RHEL is welcome to backport that code >

Re: What is Fedora?

2023-06-23 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 9:35 AM Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 23 2023 at 01:07:39 PM +0200, Vít Ondruch > wrote: > > Please understand that (speaking of the user space packages, I cannot > > speak for kernel) there are no other sources then the sources in > > GitLab, > > which is

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

2023-06-22 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 5:02 AM Matthew Miller wrote: > > >> ELN is a build of (some) Fedora packages with EL-specific options, so > >> it requires Fedora. > > ELN can exist off an internal non fedora tree. Just depends who is > > updating the tree. > > Sure, but... that's the _opposite_ of the

Re: F39 Proposal: Make Toolbx a release-blocking deliverable and have release-blocking test criteria (System-Wide Change)

2023-06-05 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 6:28 AM Debarshi Ray via devel wrote: > > Hey, > > I wanted to wrap up this sub-thread on-list, after Owen and I chatted > about it off-list. > > I am fine with having the fedora-toolbox OCI images being defined as > kickstart files in the Fedora infrastructure and built by

Re: Using AI/Machine Learning with rpmautospec?

2023-06-05 Thread Josh Boyer
On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 4:06 PM Reon Beon via devel wrote: > > How far along is this? Possible in the next 5-10 years or so? What do you want it to actually do? josh ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email

Re: LibreOffice packages

2023-06-05 Thread Josh Boyer
On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 3:56 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 03/06/2023 02:46, Leslie Satenstein via devel wrote: > > No LibreOffice, no continuation with Fedora. LO better be there with > > F39. Without it, all you have is Firefox. It is not enough to keep > > Fedora Diehards from

Re: Election Status?

2023-05-25 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 7:58 AM Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Joe Doss wrote: > > On 5/24/23 4:49 PM, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > >> Wait, what?? Someone at RH wakes up in the morning and decides to cut > >> one of the key roles (or better, THE) of Fedora community and this goes > >>

Re: Election Status?

2023-05-25 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 9:34 PM Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > > On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 9:50 PM Mattia Verga via devel > wrote: > > > Wait, what?? Someone at RH wakes up in the morning and decides to cut > > one of the key roles (or better, THE) of Fedora community and this goes > > completely

Re: Election Status?

2023-05-24 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 3:23 PM Tom Stellard wrote: > > On 5/24/23 12:19, Josh Boyer wrote: > > On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 2:55 PM Peter Boy wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>> Am 24.05.2023 um 20:30 schrieb Chris Murphy : > >>> > >>

Re: Election Status?

2023-05-24 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 2:55 PM Peter Boy wrote: > > > > > Am 24.05.2023 um 20:30 schrieb Chris Murphy : > > > > I'm pretty sure we no longer have a program manager? > > What’s that about? Red Hat recently announced a round of layoffs[1] and the Fedora Program Manager role was impacted. Ben

[EPEL-devel] Re: RHEL 8 Python 3.8 EOL

2023-05-18 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 3:17 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > Hello folks, > > just a heads up that according to > https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/rhel-app-streams-life-cycle#rhel8_application_streams > the Python 3.8 application stream will be retired in May 2023 (I suppose at > the

[EPEL-devel] Re: Ansible in EPEL 9

2023-05-10 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 11:24 PM Maxwell G wrote: > > Hello EPEL users and developers, > > > RHEL 9.2 was released today, > so I have updated ansible in EPEL 9 from 6.3.0 to 7.2.0 to match RHEL > 9.2's ansible-core bump from 2.13.3 to 2.14.2. > Each ansible major version is tied to a specific

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-26 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 8:43 AM Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Josh Boyer wrote: > > Ah. May or may not. That gives me hope at least. > > Well, considering that we have hundreds of existing contributors, who all > may or may not be willing to adapt to a pla

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-26 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 10:42 PM Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Josh Boyer wrote: > > I want to make sure I understand that statement. You're saying you > > will actively walk away from Fedora because you would have to change > > the manner in which you discuss t

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-25 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 10:21 PM Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Kamil Paral wrote: > > I've spent more than a decade perfecting my email filters and I have a > > setup that works for me very well. I dislike certain aspects of mailing > > lists (cross-posting, top-posting, reply-to, etc, which

[EPEL-devel] Re: Future of ClamAV on EPEL ?

2023-03-07 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 3:00 PM Andrew C Aitchison wrote: > > > This question is prompted by a question from kumar bava about EPEL7 > on the ClamaAV Users list: > https://lists.clamav.net/pipermail/clamav-users/2023-March/013338.html > > EPEL currently ship the anti-virus ClamAV v0.103.8 > > From

Re: Retiring Bottles in favor of Flatpak provided by upstream

2023-01-25 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 5:56 AM Vít Ondruch wrote: > > I am not user of Bottles so I won't complain about this particular case, > but the push towards (upstream) Flatpaks is unfortunate :/ Can you elaborate on why you feel that way? josh ___ devel

[EPEL-devel] Re: gcc ee this bug on RHEL9 , How we reach RHEL team ?

2023-01-24 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 9:26 AM Troy Dawson wrote: > > Just so people don't need to go to the bug. > This has already been reported for RHEL 9. > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2140266 > > If I understand "Approved Release" correctly, the fix will come out in RHEL > 9.2 Most people

[EPEL-devel] Re: gcc bug on RHEL9 , How we reach RHEL team ?

2023-01-24 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 7:01 AM Sérgio Basto wrote: > > Hi, > Sorry, now subject is correct, the gcc have one patch for the error > above, that is seen on rhel 9 > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1996330#c14 If you believe this is present in RHEL 9, please clone the bug to the Red

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February

2023-01-11 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 2:02 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 11. 01. 23 17:52, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > > Il 11/01/23 13:58, Miro Hrončok ha scritto: > >> sigulkevin, mitr > > > > Retiring this would blow up Fedora infrastructure... the FTB/FTI is

Re: RISC-V -- are we ready for more, and what do we need to do it?

2023-01-10 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 5:11 AM David Abdurachmanov wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 3:22 PM Josh Boyer wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 9:15 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 8:47 AM Josh Boyer > > > wrote: > &g

Re: RISC-V -- are we ready for more, and what do we need to do it?

2023-01-09 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 9:15 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 8:47 AM Josh Boyer wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 2:42 AM David Abdurachmanov > > wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 2:28 AM Jeff Law wrote: > > &g

Re: RISC-V -- are we ready for more, and what do we need to do it?

2023-01-09 Thread Josh Boyer
On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 2:42 AM David Abdurachmanov wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 2:28 AM Jeff Law wrote: > > > > > > > > On 1/6/23 23:41, David Abdurachmanov wrote: > > > > > > Summary from multi-year discussions/feedback on this: > > > - We don't have proper hardware to put into the data

Re: F38 proposal: Rpmautospec by Default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-01-03 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 5:11 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 4:02 PM Josh Boyer wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 3:30 AM Petr Pisar wrote: > > > > > > V Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 02:10:52PM -0500, Neal Gompa napsal(a): > > > >

Re: F38 proposal: Rpmautospec by Default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-01-03 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 3:30 AM Petr Pisar wrote: > > V Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 02:10:52PM -0500, Neal Gompa napsal(a): > > Have we made sure that when Red Hat forks Fedora packages for RHEL > > that they don't truncate or eliminate the Git history anymore? Because I > > would > > personally be very

Re: F38 proposal: Rpmautospec by Default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-01-03 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 5:56 AM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > > On Monday, 02 January 2023 at 09:57, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > Dne 02. 01. 23 v 9:38 Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski napsal(a): > > > produces bogus changelog messages and artificially > > > inflates Release counters. > > > >

Re: F38 proposal: Rpmautospec by Default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2023-01-03 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 4:43 AM Maxwell G via devel wrote: > > On Mon Jan 2, 2023 at 09:57 +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > Dne 02. 01. 23 v 9:38 Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski napsal(a): > > > produces bogus changelog messages and artificially > > > inflates Release counters. > > > > I always

Re: F38 proposal: Rpmautospec by Default (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-31 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 5:17 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 4:48 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > > On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 02:10:52PM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 2:02 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > > >

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-06 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 2:01 PM Stephen Smoogen wrote: > > > > On Tue, 6 Dec 2022 at 13:50, Josh Boyer wrote: >> >> On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 11:27 AM Neal Gompa wrote: >> > >> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 7:54 AM Josh Boyer >> > wrote: >>

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-06 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 11:27 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 7:54 AM Josh Boyer wrote: > > > > On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 1:43 AM Terry Barnaby wrote: > > > > > > On 05/12/2022 16:00, Jarek Prokop wrote: > > > > > > > >

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-06 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 1:43 AM Terry Barnaby wrote: > > On 05/12/2022 16:00, Jarek Prokop wrote: > > > On 12/5/22 14:57, Peter Robinson wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 12:01 PM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel > wrote: > > On 05/12/2022 12:39, Terry Barnaby wrote: > > I am wondering what Fedora's

Re: Replacing GNOME Disks with Blivet GUI in comps' admin-tools?

2022-10-19 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 9:37 AM Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 09, 2022 at 05:17:29AM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > IMHO, we need a proper solution for the general comps issue rather than that > > half-baked compromise that does not really improve the situation. KDE Plasma > > I

Re: Copr delete-by-default expiration policy still unacceptable

2022-10-13 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 11:04 AM Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 2:25 PM Josh Boyer wrote: > > > Would you be willing to pay for that feature? > > A "freemium" COPR service? > > I suspect that that would be such a > niche

Re: Copr delete-by-default expiration policy still unacceptable

2022-10-13 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 10:48 AM Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Josh Boyer wrote: > > Would you be willing to pay for that feature? > > Probably not, because at that point, it would probably be cheaper to just > set up a mirror or even a full-fledged build system on a VPS

Re: Copr delete-by-default expiration policy still unacceptable

2022-10-13 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 8:41 AM Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > Dne 13. 10. 22 v 6:12 Kevin Kofler via devel napsal(a): > >> I am really angry at Copr's expiration policy once again. It looks like I > >> missed the deadline to renew the expired chroots (I still do not

Re: F39 proposal: Replace DNF with DNF5 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-09-07 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Sep 6, 2022 at 2:29 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReplaceDnfWithDnf5 > > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes > process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive > community feedback. This proposal will only be

Re: proposal idea: EOL notifications

2022-07-13 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 6:29 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 06:34:16PM +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > Dne 08. 07. 22 v 4:59 Stewart Smith via devel napsal(a): > > > > Another - what do we do about, e.g., Fedora IoT and Fedora CoreOS, > > > > which have their

Re: proposal idea: EOL notifications

2022-07-13 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 2:46 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Mon, 2022-07-11 at 07:02 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 12:34 PM Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > > > > > Dne 08. 07. 22 v 4:59 Stewart Smith via devel napsal(a): > > > > >

Re: proposal idea: EOL notifications

2022-07-11 Thread Josh Boyer
On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 12:34 PM Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > Dne 08. 07. 22 v 4:59 Stewart Smith via devel napsal(a): > > Another - what do we do about, e.g., Fedora IoT and Fedora CoreOS, > which have their own somewhat different release/life cycles? What about > module lifecycles? What is it

Re: proposal idea: EOL notifications

2022-07-06 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 12:21 PM Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Mi, 06.07.22 18:15, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl) wrote: > > > I'm aware of the release schedule ;) > > The date would only need to be set (at most) twice: > > - once before the release of Fn > > - after Fn+2 is

Re: proposal idea: EOL notifications

2022-07-06 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 11:49 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 11:45 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > In https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2803 Artem asked for a user-visible > > notification when a Fedora stops being supported. Various proposals > > for

Re: [Container-sig] About Fedora containers

2022-06-22 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 3:42 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 08:21:48AM +0200, Lumír Balhar wrote: > > Because we had a lot of troubles with Fedora infra for container > > images (I can provide more details, if you want), we have decided to > > move our containers to

[EPEL-devel] Re: Thoughts: epel-release auto-enable crb repo

2022-06-14 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Jun 14, 2022 at 2:15 PM Mike Rochefort wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 4:18 PM Chris Adams wrote: > > > > Once upon a time, Josh Boyer said: > > > If the dependency is only needed at build time, which is what CRB > > > content is intended for >

[EPEL-devel] Re: Thoughts: epel-release auto-enable crb repo

2022-06-13 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Jun 13, 2022, 4:17 PM Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Josh Boyer said: > > If the dependency is only needed at build time, which is what CRB > > content is intended for > > If that's the intent, then it's not implemented correctly. For example, > ther

[EPEL-devel] Re: Thoughts: epel-release auto-enable crb repo

2022-06-13 Thread Josh Boyer
On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 6:50 AM Sérgio Basto wrote: > > On Sun, 2022-06-05 at 00:54 +0200, Neal Gompa wrote: > > Let me start with examples that I get *regularly*: Pagure fails to > > install from EPEL on RHEL/CentOS/Alma/etc. because python3-markdown > > is > > not available. KDE Plasma fails to

Re: exploded git tree for kernel-5.17.4-200.fc35

2022-05-31 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 2:39 AM Laszlo Ersek wrote: > > Hi, > > where can I find the exploded git tree for "kernel-5.17.4-200.fc35"? > > The tree at > is > no good; it does not have tags beyond .fc33. I'm going to delete this

[EPEL-devel] Re: [CentOS-devel] RHEL moving to issues.redhat.com only long term

2022-05-20 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 1:42 AM Thomas Stephen Lee wrote: > > The package I need is redhat-lsb-core. We have no plans to add redhat-lsb-core at this time. Most users are able to port their software to use the fields in /etc/os-release. josh > On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 1:57 AM Josh Boy

Re: [CentOS-devel] [EPEL-devel] RHEL moving to issues.redhat.com only long term

2022-05-20 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 1:42 AM Thomas Stephen Lee wrote: > > The package I need is redhat-lsb-core. We have no plans to add redhat-lsb-core at this time. Most users are able to port their software to use the fields in /etc/os-release. josh > On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 1:57 AM Josh Boy

Re: [CentOS-devel] [EPEL-devel] RHEL moving to issues.redhat.com only long term

2022-05-19 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 4:11 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 07:37:46AM +0200, Branislav Náter wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 4:15 AM Thomas Stephen Lee > > wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I am trying to request a package for RHEL 9, but I cannot find RHEL > >

[EPEL-devel] Re: [CentOS-devel] RHEL moving to issues.redhat.com only long term

2022-05-19 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 4:11 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 07:37:46AM +0200, Branislav Náter wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 4:15 AM Thomas Stephen Lee > > wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I am trying to request a package for RHEL 9, but I cannot find RHEL > >

[EPEL-devel] Re: Rhel 9 + Epel 9 - Amavis can't install

2022-05-18 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 6:21 AM Filip Bartmann wrote: > > Hello, > I try to install amavis in epel for RedHat 9 Stable: > > dnf install amavis > Updating Subscription Management repositories. > Last metadata expiration check: 0:02:16 ago on Wed 18 May 2022 12:16:52 PM > CEST. > Error: >

[EPEL-devel] Re: python-passlib for python38 module

2022-05-17 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 3:42 PM Leon Fauster via epel-devel wrote: > > Hi all, > > with the "upcoming" ansible-core migration, I wonder if its possible to > provide a python-passlib package (or stream) for the python38 > environment (ansible-core dependency). > > The current status: > > # rpm -q

[EPEL-devel] Re: RHEL 9 packages available in EPEL 9 (in different versions as well)

2022-05-04 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 4:00 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 04. 05. 22 15:40, Troy Dawson wrote: > > I just want to make sure that you are querying RHEL 9.0 and not 9.1. > > Well, I was querying 9.1, so you have a point. However, with 9.0 it is almost > the same: > > $ comm -12 <(repoquery -q >

Re: F37 Change: Deprecate Legacy BIOS (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-04-06 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 7:08 AM Richard Hughes wrote: > > On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 at 11:20, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski > wrote: > > > and on its way out. As it ages, maintainability has decreased, and > > > the status quo of maintaining both stacks in perpetuity is not viable > > > for those

Re: Landing a larger-than-release change (distrusting SHA-1 signatures)

2022-03-23 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 7:05 AM Alexander Sosedkin wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 12:51 AM Josh Boyer wrote: > > > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 1:40 PM Alexander Sosedkin > > wrote: > > > > > > Hello, community, I need your wisdom for planning a di

Re: Landing a larger-than-release change (distrusting SHA-1 signatures)

2022-03-22 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 1:40 PM Alexander Sosedkin wrote: > > Hello, community, I need your wisdom for planning a disruptive change. > > Fedora 28 had https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/StrongCryptoSettings > Fedora 33 had https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/StrongCryptoSettings2 > I

[EPEL-devel] Re: [CentOS-devel] KDE ready for testing in RHEL9Beta / CentOS Stream 9

2022-03-22 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 11:01 AM Simon Matter wrote: > > Hi Troy and all, > > > For those of you who want to use KDE on RHEL9 Beta, or CentOS Stream 9, it > > is available via EPEL. It is currently plasma 5.23.5, kf5 5.90.0, qt5 > > 5.15.2. There might be an update before RHEL 9.0 is released.

Re: FESCo wants to know what you use i686 packages for

2022-03-16 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 1:37 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 12:54:23PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 11:55 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 09

Re: FESCo wants to know what you use i686 packages for

2022-03-16 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 11:55 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 09:54:12AM -0400, David Cantrell wrote: > > If you use i686 packages for something now, please respond to this thread. > > I use i686 versions of libraries to do local 32-bit builds of C > software I'm

[EPEL-devel] Re: RHEL moving to issues.redhat.com only long term

2022-03-15 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 2:59 PM Dan Čermák wrote: > > Hi Adam, > > Adam Williamson writes: > > > snip > > > That could obviously have pretty significant consequences for Fedora. > > Bugzilla isn't only an issue tracker for Fedora; we run some > > significant processes through it, notably the

Re: RHEL moving to issues.redhat.com only long term

2022-03-15 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 2:59 PM Dan Čermák wrote: > > Hi Adam, > > Adam Williamson writes: > > > snip > > > That could obviously have pretty significant consequences for Fedora. > > Bugzilla isn't only an issue tracker for Fedora; we run some > > significant processes through it, notably the

[EPEL-devel] Re: RHEL moving to issues.redhat.com only long term

2022-03-15 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 11:12 AM Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Mon, 2022-03-07 at 12:44 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > > Hi Fedora, CentOS, and EPEL Communities! > > > > As part of our continued 3 year major Red Hat Enterprise Linux release > > cadence, RHEL 9 deve

Re: RHEL moving to issues.redhat.com only long term

2022-03-15 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 11:12 AM Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Mon, 2022-03-07 at 12:44 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > > Hi Fedora, CentOS, and EPEL Communities! > > > > As part of our continued 3 year major Red Hat Enterprise Linux release > > cadence, RHEL 9 deve

[EPEL-devel] Re: [CentOS-devel] RHEL moving to issues.redhat.com only long term

2022-03-10 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 5:05 PM Davide Cavalca via CentOS-devel wrote: > > On Mon, 2022-03-07 at 12:44 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > > Hi Fedora, CentOS, and EPEL Communities! > > > > As part of our continued 3 year major Red Hat Enterprise Linux > > release &

Re: [CentOS-devel] [EPEL-devel] RHEL moving to issues.redhat.com only long term

2022-03-10 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 5:05 PM Davide Cavalca via CentOS-devel wrote: > > On Mon, 2022-03-07 at 12:44 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > > Hi Fedora, CentOS, and EPEL Communities! > > > > As part of our continued 3 year major Red Hat Enterprise Linux > > release &

RHEL moving to issues.redhat.com only long term

2022-03-07 Thread Josh Boyer
Hi Fedora, CentOS, and EPEL Communities! As part of our continued 3 year major Red Hat Enterprise Linux release cadence, RHEL 9 development is starting to wrap up with the spring 2022 release coming soon. That means planning for the next release will start in earnest in the very near future. As

[EPEL-devel] RHEL moving to issues.redhat.com only long term

2022-03-07 Thread Josh Boyer
Hi Fedora, CentOS, and EPEL Communities! As part of our continued 3 year major Red Hat Enterprise Linux release cadence, RHEL 9 development is starting to wrap up with the spring 2022 release coming soon. That means planning for the next release will start in earnest in the very near future. As

Re: Dropping 32bit arches from pypy2.7?

2022-03-03 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Mar 3, 2022, 1:21 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > Hello. > > pypy 2.7 fails to build with GCC 12 on 32 bit arches. > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2046857 > > Instead of investigating this and trying to fix this, I wonder if I can > just > excludearch %ix86 and %arm32. No other

[EPEL-devel] Re: Missing RHEL 9 buildroot packages in EPEL 9 buildroot

2022-03-03 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 12:27 PM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 02, 2022 at 09:04:04AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > > So why not have the OCaml toolchain exposed in RHEL CRB? It sounds > > like it would be very beneficial to have it there. > > It's a good question. I think we chose not

[EPEL-devel] Re: Missing RHEL 9 buildroot packages in EPEL 9 buildroot

2022-03-01 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 8:45 AM Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > > On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 at 08:19, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: >> >> On Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 04:21:56AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: >> > On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 3:07 AM Richard W.M. Jones >> > wrote: >> > > >> > > >> > >

Re: Workflow and other problems with the Fedora container infrastructure

2022-01-19 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 8:40 AM Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 08:42:30AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > >On Sat, Jan 15, 2022, 6:57 PM Kevin Fenzi <[1]ke...@scrye.com> wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 02:14:19PM -0500, Neal Gompa wr

Re: Workflow and other problems with the Fedora container infrastructure

2022-01-16 Thread Josh Boyer
On Sat, Jan 15, 2022, 6:57 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 02:14:19PM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > One of the things that has recently happened in the Koji space is the > > addition of a kiwi-build task to build images using the KIWI tool[1]. > > > > KIWI supports building

[EPEL-devel] Re: The incredibly shrinking RHEL

2022-01-15 Thread Josh Boyer
On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 1:29 PM Orion Poplawski wrote: > > On 1/14/22 05:02, Josh Boyer wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 5:31 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > >> > >> On 14. 01. 22 5:11, Orion Poplawski wrote: > >>> While working on EPEL9, it seems that even m

[EPEL-devel] Re: The incredibly shrinking RHEL

2022-01-14 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 5:31 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 14. 01. 22 5:11, Orion Poplawski wrote: > > While working on EPEL9, it seems that even more packages are missing from > > RHEL9 > > than were in RHEL8. The latest I found was cppunit, which appears to be > > completely missing from the

Re: F36 Change: Enable fs-verity in RPM (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-12-03 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 1:15 PM Davide Cavalca wrote: > > On Thu, 2021-12-02 at 19:10 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 2, 2021, 5:33 PM Davide Cavalca via devel > > wrote: > > > > > Correct, XFS doesn't support fs-verity at the moment (though it > &

[EPEL-devel] Re: EPEL9 Rollout Proposals

2021-12-02 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 4:29 PM Leon Fauster via epel-devel wrote: > > Am 02.12.21 um 19:49 schrieb Carl George: > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 1:32 PM Troy Dawson wrote: > >> > >> In our last EPEL Steering Committee meeting, Carl brought up a new > >> proposal for our epel9 / epel9-next rollout.

Re: F36 Change: Enable fs-verity in RPM (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-12-02 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 7:27 PM Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: > > Hello, > > On Thu, Dec 02, 2021 at 07:10:32PM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 2, 2021, 5:33 PM Davide Cavalca via devel < > > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > > > > O

Re: F36 Change: Enable fs-verity in RPM (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-12-02 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Dec 2, 2021, 5:33 PM Davide Cavalca via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On Thu, 2021-12-02 at 13:09 -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 02, 2021 at 02:36:51PM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > > ...snip... > > > > > > In the context of rpm, there are two parts to this: > >

Re: Onboarding package

2021-10-05 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 11:27 AM Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 04, 2021 at 09:17:30PM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > >Is this really necessary? > > > > Yes. Because anyone can add something like this: > > %post > > rm -rf / > > > > And it will destroy the installed system or

Re: Onboarding package

2021-10-04 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 1:10 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 04, 2021 at 10:57:42AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > Thoughts? > > I like the idea! It's indeed a good idea. > We can block such a package from ever appearing in a compose in pungi. You'd need to block it from ever appearing in

[EPEL-devel] Re: python-gevent and pytest-cov in el9

2021-09-24 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 4:09 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 4:03 PM Josh Boyer wrote: > > > > On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 4:02 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 3:59 PM Josh Boyer wrote: > > > > &g

[EPEL-devel] Re: python-gevent and pytest-cov in el9

2021-09-24 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 4:02 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 3:59 PM Josh Boyer wrote: > > > > On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 3:46 PM Ken Dreyer wrote: > > > > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > The RHEL 9 composes do not have libev-devel a

[EPEL-devel] Re: python-gevent and pytest-cov in el9

2021-09-24 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 3:46 PM Ken Dreyer wrote: > > Hi folks, > > The RHEL 9 composes do not have libev-devel and libuv-devel, so we > cannot build python-gevent on EPEL 9 easily.

[EPEL-devel] Re: ansible-core-2.11.x in CentOS stream 9

2021-09-16 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 10:10 AM Leon Fauster wrote: > > On 16.09.21 14:22, Josh Boyer wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 3:48 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > >> > >> Just a heads up that ansible-core (the engine part of ansible) is now in > >> CentOS stream 9: >

[EPEL-devel] Re: ansible-core-2.11.x in CentOS stream 9

2021-09-16 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 3:48 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > Just a heads up that ansible-core (the engine part of ansible) is now in > CentOS stream 9: > > https://gitlab.com/redhat/centos-stream/rpms/ansible-core > > Note that this is the engine, you will likely want to install > collections for

Re: I think we should stop building i686 packages we're not shipping

2021-08-31 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 12:54 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > > This is an off-shoot thought of the 32-bit ARM conversation. Right now, we > build stuff like libreoffice for i686, but then (mostly) don't ship it. > This seems like a waste of resources and time. > > I know it's somewhat complicated

Re: Where has the kernel-doc package gone?

2021-08-30 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 1:44 PM Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > On Mon, 30 Aug 2021 at 13:07, Nils K wrote: > > > > I recently had to perform a bit of development/research where I often had > > to take a look in the kernel documentation. > > > > Most of the time was spend offline so I wanted to

[EPEL-devel] Re: modular bugzilla components

2021-08-24 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 9:22 AM Troy Dawson wrote: > > > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 6:41 PM Orion Poplawski wrote: >> >> The "zabbix" package exists in EPEL8 in two forms: >> >> zabbix40 - non-module 4.0 package. >> zabbix - module with 5.0 stream. >> >> Because the "zabbix" dist-git does not

Re: building against epel8 modules

2021-07-01 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 4:58 AM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 1:25 PM Jiri Vanek wrote: > > > > > > > > On 6/22/21 7:08 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > > Welcome to RHEL-8 modularity and the joy it brings anyone trying to > > > port software to 8. The problem is not

Re: Fedora Source-git SIG report #1 (June 2021)

2021-07-01 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Jun 25, 2021, 8:52 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 3:43 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 03:49:23AM +, Dan Čermák wrote: > > > > > > > > > On June 24, 2021 9:22:51 PM UTC, "Miro Hrončok" > wrote: > > > >On 24. 06. 21 23:07,

[EPEL-devel] Re: Requesting missing devel packages: How to request one be put in RHEL 8 CRB

2021-06-25 Thread Josh Boyer
communication gap, and > figured this would be a good way to start. So I'm asking Josh Boyer to > answer this question on behalf of Red Hat. Thanks, Troy! > > How would Red Hat like us, EPEL maintainers and developers, to request > missing devel packages? (devel packages that are

Re: What are https://src.fedoraproject.org/container ?

2021-06-12 Thread Josh Boyer
On Sat, Jun 12, 2021, 8:01 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > On Sat, Jun 12, 2021 at 7:54 AM Josh Boyer > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 10, 2021, 8:35 AM Stephen Gallagher > wrote: > >> > >> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 5:51 AM Richard W.M. Jones > w

Re: What are https://src.fedoraproject.org/container ?

2021-06-12 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Jun 10, 2021, 8:35 AM Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 5:51 AM Richard W.M. Jones > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 09:39:38AM +0100, Ankur Sinha wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 09:02:47 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > > > > > > This appeared yesterday:

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Signed RPM Contents (late System-Wide Change)

2021-01-26 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Jan 26, 2021, 3:47 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 3:44 PM Matthew Miller > wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 10:44:05AM -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > * Try and change the storage format of the signatures to not take up > > > tons of room. I guess this would be in

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Golang 1.16 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-01-05 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 2:40 PM Robbie Harwood wrote: > > Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek writes: > > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 03:19:16PM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/golang1.16 > >> > >> == Summary == > >> Rebase of Golang package to upcoming version 1.16 in

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Signed RPM Contents (late System-Wide Change)

2021-01-05 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 1:39 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 1:05 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Signed_RPM_Contents > > > > Note that this change was submitted after the deadline, but since it can be > > shipped in an complete state, I am

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