Re: F40 Change Proposal: Optimized Binaries for the AMD64 Architecture (System-Wide)

2024-01-04 Thread Oron Peled
ls, etc.) * I.e: a developer that need cross-compilation, install the wanted toolchain(s) and all library packages are immediately available from standard repositories. I guess Fedora people that work on ARM/ARM64/RISC-V would love such a support. Bye, -- Oron Peled > On 2. 1. 2024

Re: gpg-agents all over the place

2020-12-23 Thread Oron Peled
don't have my scripts in front of me for further details) > Oh, look, someone else is using scripted build tools that use gpg. Nice to > meet you. I actually use them in build scripts that sign repositories, (in Debian, but don't tell anyone ;-)) -- Oron Peled

Re: Updating Rawhide vs GPG keys

2019-03-12 Thread Oron Peled
modify "$releasever" to "31" * Use dnf to upgrade and check if it imports the new GPG key and work correctly. Bye, -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 "If you take a class in large-scale robotics, can you end up in a situation where th

Re: Announcing DNF 3 development

2018-03-26 Thread Oron Peled
(e.g: apt list ...) always use latest cache data. * So query by root or any user are the same -- no privileged and work on the cache (which may/may-not be updated). KISS, -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 May the Source be with you! ___

Re: Proposal: Rethink Fedora multilib support (Take Two!)

2017-01-12 Thread Oron Peled
s simply wrong: multiarch solve the general case, while multilib solve only the specific case you described. (both archs are executable but one is prefered). Bye, -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron

Re: Proposal: Rethink Fedora multilib support (Take Two!)

2017-01-07 Thread Oron Peled
checked, so maybe it's not significant). Overall, going multiarch is major multi-year effort, so I agree Fedora should not jump in this direction unless it wants to cater for embedded/IoT developers. If it does, I strongly suggest learning how Debian did that, both to minimize further fragmentatio

Re: Proposal: Rethink Fedora multilib support (Take Two!)

2017-01-06 Thread Oron Peled
develop everything at $day job on Debian (KDE) and for Debian (targets). Long live Linux ;-) -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron "Debugging is at least twice as hard as writing the program in the

Re: notion of base or minimal image

2016-07-19 Thread Oron Peled
her categories? Something that breaks this taxonomy? Thanks, -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new d

Re: RFC: Fixing the "nobody" user?

2016-07-19 Thread Oron Peled
(except on Irix >= 1000) It was very common to have NFS mounted /home across all servers (with different *NIX vendors/versions). So '99' was the "last" uid that was assured not to collide with uid's of regular users on NFS. -- Oron Peled Vo

Re: systemd 230 change - KillUserProcesses defaults to yes

2016-06-03 Thread Oron Peled
x this with the user/group granularity issue. Thanks, -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron Ignore Your Rights And They'll Go Away -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fed

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Default Local DNS Resolver

2015-12-14 Thread Oron Peled
On Monday 14 December 2015 09:34:56 Paul Wouters wrote: > On 12/12/2015 09:11 PM, Oron Peled wrote: > > Still, IMO, the goal to warn users can be achieved quite easily. Two > > examples from the top of my head. > > 1. log + notify: > >* The information may be

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Default Local DNS Resolver

2015-12-12 Thread Oron Peled
On Friday 11 December 2015 09:09:28 Paul Wouters wrote: > On 12/09/2015 06:02 PM, Oron Peled wrote: > > Why don't we plan this feature in two stages: > > * Fedora 24: turn it on by default, but *keep using results* from bad DNS > > servers, > >just issue a use

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Default Local DNS Resolver

2015-12-09 Thread Oron Peled
handle problematic use-cases. So at that stage, we may ship DNSSEC as "fail-bad-DNS-servers-by-default". Make sense? -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron The most exciting phrase to hear in

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Default Local DNS Resolver

2015-12-07 Thread Oron Peled
e?]) * BTW: hits on the above link would give us *some* measurement about people having problems/investigating this. Bye, -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron "A standard for copy protectio

Re: Urgent F23 testing request: logout bugs

2015-10-21 Thread Oron Peled
ut driver issues with new hardware. * Please ignore if you think the Fedora case is very specific to the software versions in Fedora. Bye, -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron Problems cannot

Re: Proposal: Drop comps

2015-07-14 Thread Oron Peled
ugliness, comps groups have another important feature -- localized *names* and *descriptions*. -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron Real programmers confuse halloween and christmas because OCT 31 = DEC

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Set sshd(8) PermitRootLogin=no

2015-01-08 Thread Oron Peled
/debian-ssh/2014/03/msg00024.html] So another small benefit is increased uniformity in Linux and less surprises for new admins. -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron A standard for copy protection

Re: Poll: How users use DNF

2014-12-09 Thread Oron Peled
/dnf issue, but your are the people that can think of the missing pieces (some yum/dnf proxy -- that maps url's across mirrorlist -- so the same RPM's is a proxy hit, regardless of which exact mirror it was pulled off) Thank you all, -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4

Re: blivet-gui announcement

2014-09-06 Thread Oron Peled
clear -- I think multiple competing solutions in the same domain are totally OK, especially when it's not clear which technologies will get traction. So even though running UI's as root is really bad, thanks for the blivet-ui people for the effort to expose an important storage stack. Bye, -- Oron

Re: New Fedora 22 Change proposal: systemd-sysusers

2014-07-09 Thread Oron Peled
with magical effects, but I wonder if anyone is aware of existing system users which carry more complex semantics. Thanks, -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron Promises are like babies: fun to make, but hell

Re: Maybe it's time to get rid of tcpwrappers/tcpd?

2014-03-20 Thread Oron Peled
would go a long way. * If this happens to be implemented in a small library with sane API, it may even contribute to the direct replacement of tcpwrappers in other network services that need similar features... Thanks, -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o

Re: Service units for web applications

2014-02-25 Thread Oron Peled
code inside the kernel? (probably not). Oh well, we can't fix it all -- httpd is the kernel for web-applications with all the trust, resource allocation and management issues that goes with it. /grief -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il

Re: Fedora.next: I would like working configurations

2014-01-28 Thread Oron Peled
, etc. Thanks for the feedback, -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron ...there are two types of command interfaces in the world of computing: good interfaces and user interfaces

Re: Fedora.next: I would like working configurations

2014-01-27 Thread Oron Peled
framework for basic configuration, just like RPM shows how very different packages can use a common framework for installation. Having such a framework would allow a *standard* way of configuring a set of packages for specific roles. -- Oron Peled Voice

ModemManager and generic USB hardware (was: Fatal flaw in the udev paradigm?)

2013-10-31 Thread Oron Peled
about MM. B. Or they are OK, but MM people cannot be expected to implement any random nice idea suggested by someone on the Internet... If it's B. -- please let me know and I'll try to see if I can prototype something that may even function on some lucky days ;-) Thanks, -- Oron Peled

Re: Hello! Also, packaging baresip for Fedora

2013-09-30 Thread Oron Peled
assume each of them breaks ABI compatibility :-( (since currently, this library has only one client, it shouldn't be too painful). -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron I love deadlines

Re: Firewall blocking desktop features

2013-09-13 Thread Oron Peled
On Friday 13 September 2013 01:51:00 drago01 wrote: On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 1:26 AM, Oron Peled o...@actcom.co.il wrote: - This means that any privileged service controlled by GUI client (e.g: NetworkManager) is still only as secure as it's controller (e.g: nm-applet

Re: Firewall blocking desktop features

2013-09-12 Thread Oron Peled
executable (/proc/pid/cmd). Oh, and btw, when the client closes the connection (e.g: when it terminates) we should close the requested ports so we don't leave unused ports open for future malicious apps. -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il

Re: Firewall blocking desktop features

2013-09-12 Thread Oron Peled
On Thursday 12 September 2013 09:23:13 Colin Walters wrote: On Thu, 2013-09-12 at 10:01 +0300, Oron Peled wrote: * From pid you can find the real executable (/proc/pid/cmd). And this is the step that's worthless: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=533493 Thanks, that was a very

Re: Summary of accepted Fedora 20 Changes - week 30

2013-07-28 Thread Oron Peled
On Saturday 27 July 2013 18:36:23 Matthew Garrett wrote: On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 01:12:25PM +0300, Oron Peled wrote: On the other hand, aliasing root to the installing user in /etc/aliases is trivial and adding the local spool mailbox as a default to MUA's would make these mails *visible

Re: Summary of accepted Fedora 20 Changes - week 30

2013-07-28 Thread Oron Peled
On Sunday 28 July 2013 08:01:25 Matthew Garrett wrote: On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 09:56:16AM +0300, Oron Peled wrote: 1. By the same logic we can ship just a browser, why bother building LibreOffice if many use just google-docs? Because not everyone uses Google Docs, and so any solution

Re: Summary of accepted Fedora 20 Changes - week 30

2013-07-28 Thread Oron Peled
batteries included. -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron Ignore Your Rights And They'll Go Away -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: Summary of accepted Fedora 20 Changes - week 30

2013-07-27 Thread Oron Peled
outputs are lost [tongue in the cheek]) Bye, -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron ... It's like a Windows.. litle blow and it crashes... (c)Broker -- devel mailing list devel

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail

2013-07-24 Thread Oron Peled
On Monday 22 July 2013 20:18:04 Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 03:14:32AM +0300, Oron Peled wrote: BTW: nobody ever answered how desktop users are supposed to read the output of their cron-jobs (they don't have permissions to read logs). They do have permissions

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail

2013-07-24 Thread Oron Peled
On Tuesday 23 July 2013 02:34:25 Lennart Poettering wrote: On Tue, 23.07.13 03:14, Oron Peled (o...@actcom.co.il) wrote: BTW: nobody ever answered how desktop users are supposed to read the output of their cron-jobs (they don't have permissions to read logs). Actually, if you'd look

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail

2013-07-24 Thread Oron Peled
On Wednesday 24 July 2013 13:23:08 Lennart Poettering wrote: On Tue, 23.07.13 04:03, Oron Peled (o...@actcom.co.il) wrote: There are two issues however: * The log-splitting of journald is really nice feature. But it doesn't work for cron: $ echo '* * * * * /bin/echo Test

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail

2013-07-22 Thread Oron Peled
logs). -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron write your own operating system. It has worked every time for me -- Linus Thorvalds -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail

2013-07-22 Thread Oron Peled
Hi, On Monday 22 July 2013 20:33:32 Lennart Poettering wrote: On Sun, 21.07.13 01:50, Oron Peled (o...@actcom.co.il) wrote: OK, I won't count mailx and mutt because we talk about different audience, should we open bug-reports for the rest? (kmail? evolution?) Goog luck filing bugs

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail

2013-07-22 Thread Oron Peled
installed packages...) Bye, -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron Linux: like the air you breathe, ubiquitous and free -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail

2013-07-20 Thread Oron Peled
/server) installs. -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron Linux lasts longer! -- Kim J. Brand k...@kimbrand.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail

2013-07-19 Thread Oron Peled
, -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron It's almost like we're doing Windows users a favor by charging them money for something they could get for free, because they get confused otherwise. - Larry Wall

rpm and config.{guess, sub} (was [aarch64 bugs] dpkg: Does not support aarch64 in f19 and rawhide bug #925276)

2013-06-17 Thread Oron Peled
buildable from clean sources, I think the autoreconf solution should be globally adopted (regardless of aarch64): * It doesn't use generated files as input to the build process. * It delegates the actual management to where it belongs. Bye, -- Oron Peled Voice

Re: rpm and config.{guess, sub} (was [aarch64 bugs] dpkg: Does not support aarch64 in f19 and rawhide bug #925276)

2013-06-17 Thread Oron Peled
. Helping upstream to modernize is helping our ecosystem and helping Fedora being First. Again, all of this should be *recommendation*. Like Jerry James mentioned, it should be weighted by the package maintainer against other tasks which may be more urgent/important. -- Oron Peled

Re: Packaging alien, debhelper and po-debconf

2013-06-14 Thread Oron Peled
On Friday 14 June 2013 17:45:51 Sérgio Basto wrote: On Dom, 2013-06-09 at 13:02 +0300, Oron Peled wrote: As soon as dpkg-1.16.x hits f18. dpkg-1.16.10-4.fc18 hits f18 (status stable) Now alien is waiting for debhelper https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/debhelper-9.20120909-1.fc18 Bye

Re: sharutils license correction

2013-05-30 Thread Oron Peled
to have your preferred presentation. For example, in konqueror you can simply type the info:/ URI and browse the info documentation with proper fonts, highlighting and links. (IIRC, the GNOME help browser had similar functionality) -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4

Re: git rebase master

2013-05-27 Thread Oron Peled
On Monday 27 May 2013 18:17:19 Sérgio Basto wrote: I try fedpkg switch-branch f19 git rebase master Git rule #1 -- NEVER rebase a public branch (use git merge) [because rebasing rewrites history] -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il

Re: Software Management call for RFEs

2013-05-24 Thread Oron Peled
-- in both cases the resulting library files would be on /usr/lib/arm-unknown-linux * This means cross-toolchains becomes first class citizens. Bye, -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron Gratis

Re: Software Management call for RFEs

2013-05-22 Thread Oron Peled
have in the spec file: Name: acme Requires: foo, foo-utils InstallDefault: bar, perl-bar, python-bar InstallOptional: baz, baz-ldap Now it would be classic to use --with/--without as command line flags, but it's already taken :-( -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4

Re: anaconda / initial-setup / gnome-initial-setup: can we do this better?

2013-05-19 Thread Oron Peled
that is left is to passwd foobar, but that is routine to any Linux user even during normal life-cycle. Bye, -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron write your own operating system. It has worked every

Re: Packaging alien, debhelper and po-debconf

2013-05-07 Thread Oron Peled
-- is not usable in Fedora due to rhbz#600636 * That bug-report is stalled since 2010, and exactly a year passed since I sent a tested patch... OK, back to work now. -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http

Re: Packaging alien, debhelper and po-debconf

2013-05-07 Thread Oron Peled
to finish it this weekend - debhelper, ready (IMO), reviewer is silent for ages -- can you take it? how? - pbuilder, working package, need cleanup (me), after the 3 pre-requisites are ready it would be justified to bother the reviewer. Bye, -- Oron Peled Voice

Re: Do you think this is a security risk and if not is it a bad UI decision?

2013-05-04 Thread Oron Peled
common. - Because I don't want by-standers to be able to grasp it from looking at my fingers. * You never expect the Spanish Inquisition will make such a UI change ;-) -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http

Re: Do you think this is a security risk and if not is it a bad UI decision?

2013-05-04 Thread Oron Peled
-devel and *than* to Fesco. (and I'm still repeating my previous question in this thread -- are any security related people involved? Or do we assume their opinion on the subject matter isn't relevant) -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il

Re: Do you think this is a security risk and if not is it a bad UI decision?

2013-05-03 Thread Oron Peled
their layout, translation and all that kind of stuff. OK, so that last one was a bad joke, just like exposing typed passwords... -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron “If I have seen a little further

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd/udev Predictable Network Interface Names

2013-01-26 Thread Oron Peled
the use the traditional names for the most common cases (e.g: a laptop with one eth0 and one wlan0) while still providing a predictable naming to be used when needed. Now, what do my .signature try to tell me? ;-) -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il

Re: prefered way of configuring X11 keyboard layouts in F18

2012-12-02 Thread Oron Peled
: # localectl set-x11-keymap Thus, making people understand what happened to their old file. -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron There are only 10 types of people in the world- Those who understand

Re: Packages in need of new maintainers

2012-10-04 Thread Oron Peled
, my package portfolio already has reached extents, I'd rather leave this package to somebody else. I'll be happy to take it (FAS username 'oron'). -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron

Re: new feature in yum-langpacks - langinstall/langremove

2012-08-09 Thread Oron Peled
for in the past, so it acts consistently on future installs. Which begs for: yum langlist yum langlist installed -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron If it's there and you can see it, it's REAL

InitialExperience (was: Schedule for Monday's FESCo Meeting (2012-06-11))

2012-06-10 Thread Oron Peled
it in the feature page...) -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron But it does move! -- Galileo Galilei -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org

Re: Fedora ARM and SecureBoot

2012-06-08 Thread Oron Peled
in the cellular space so there's a good chance their exclusionary move on ARM will only help convince vendors that shipping Androids (and by extension other Linuces) is safer bet. -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http

Re: Fedora ARM and SecureBoot

2012-06-08 Thread Oron Peled
On Saturday, 9 בJune 2012 00:47:30 Richard Vickery wrote: On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Oron Peled o...@actcom.co.il wrote: On Friday, 8 בJune 2012 20:07:20 Gerry Reno wrote: On 06/08/2012 01:04 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: That is only assuming that Windows on ARM is successful

Re: Packaging Guidelines - creating tarball from VCS with script

2012-05-15 Thread Oron Peled
://server/path master Vcs-URL-build:git://server/path fc17 Now, is this a science fiction? -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally

Re: firewalld / iptables.service past F17

2012-04-23 Thread Oron Peled
to generate rules for several engines (iptables, ipfilter, cisco, etc.) in some futuristic pipe-dream it may have a firewalld plugin. Cheers, -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron Make

Re: While we're talking about RPM dependencies ...

2012-04-12 Thread Oron Peled
of them grows to be 25x larger. I may be wrong, but I think 25x number of nodes in the dependency graph would kill us faster than the size of RPM/yum metadata. Can our SAT-solvers handle this increase at all? -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il

Re: dh-make broken deps for 3 releases (was: F-17 Branched report: 20120325 changes)

2012-03-26 Thread Oron Peled
On Monday, 26 בMarch 2012 11:32:10 Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 12:57:44AM +0200, Oron Peled wrote: - This means that a Debian/Ubuntu workstation can build both .deb and RPM packages, and we cannot use Fedora for a similar role. Is this really true? What

Re: dh-make broken deps for 3 releases (was: F-17 Branched report: 20120325 changes)

2012-03-26 Thread Oron Peled
? -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron In theory, it's practical. In practice - it's only a theory. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: dh-make broken deps for 3 releases (was: F-17 Branched report: 20120325 changes)

2012-03-25 Thread Oron Peled
, -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron Reality must take precedence over public relations, for Mother Nature cannot be fooled. -- R.P. Feynman -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org