[EPEL-devel] Re: CentOS Stream 8 and 9 - KDE un-updateable for a week

2022-05-04 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 4 May 2022 at 15:31, Sérgio Basto wrote: > On Wed, 2022-05-04 at 20:25 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > dnf --enablerepo=epel-next-testing --whatprovides "libpoppler-qt5.so*" > nothing ?!? > > > I missed repoquery word . > > dnf --enablerepo=epel-next-testing repoquery --whatprovides >

[EPEL-devel] Re: RHEL 9 packages available in EPEL 9 (in different versions as well)

2022-05-04 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 4 May 2022 at 08:55, Miro Hrončok wrote: > Hello EPEL. > > I have just found out that the pybind11 component from c9s / RHEL 9 CRB > has > been built in EPEL 9 in different version: > > > > Do I understand correctly that this is still *not* allowed? If so, what > can we > do to

[EPEL-devel] Re: Qt update and packages rebuild

2022-05-02 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 2 May 2022 at 04:22, Alex Iribarren wrote: > Hi, > > On 4/29/22 21:17, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 at 14:28, Germano Massullo > > mailto:germano.massu...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > Recent Ce

[EPEL-devel] Re: Qt update and packages rebuild

2022-04-29 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 at 14:28, Germano Massullo wrote: > Recent CentOS Stream Qt update broke some EPEL packages like keepassxc > that needed a rebuild against the new Qt version. > Can we talk about a way to prevent this from happening again? > > This is the current situation of events for

[EPEL-devel] Re: Does EPEL 9 Koji have older c9s packages than local mock?

2022-04-22 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 at 14:22, Miro Hrončok wrote: > Hello, > > I've been trying to debug a segfault during %check that only occurs in > epel9 > Koji, but not in mock. > > At the end, I compared the list of packages with: > > > ... > This seems like my local mock has newer c9s packages than the

[EPEL-devel] Re: EPEL conflicts with Satellite 6 packages

2022-04-17 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 at 09:54, Amos wrote: > > On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 12:31:01 -0600 Erinn Looney-Triggs > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/FAQ#Does_EPEL_replace_packages_provid... >

[EPEL-devel] Re: slowing down the stalled request process

2022-03-30 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 at 10:55, Troy Dawson wrote: > > > Current process (two bugzilla pings, two weeks total time): >> - 1st request >> - one week goes by >> - 2nd request >> - one week goes by >> - releng ticket to be added as a collaborator >> >> Proposal A (three bugzilla pings, three weeks

[EPEL-devel] Re: Handling packages with missing dependencies provided by HA-RS repos?

2022-03-25 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 at 00:25, Carl George wrote: > On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 5:50 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 09:18:08PM -0500, Carl George wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 2:54 PM Carl George wrote: > > > > > Also could we tell if deps changed? Say I have

[EPEL-devel] Re: How to support python 3.8 from RHEL 8.2 in EPEL?

2022-03-04 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 at 17:00, Orion Poplawski wrote: > On 3/2/22 14:14, epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: > > Except that we are going to need python38-pytest, etc. in the EPEL8 > buildroot > > if we are going to build (most of) the packages in the first place. > That's > > the problem

[EPEL-devel] Re: EPEL-8 Packages needing care and feeding

2022-03-03 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 3 Mar 2022 at 11:07, Scott Talbert wrote: > On Thu, 3 Mar 2022, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > OK with some help from Miro on the python team, I was able to use the > > scripts they use regularly to list what dependency problems they have > with > > soon

[EPEL-devel] Re: EPEL-8 Packages needing care and feeding

2022-03-02 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 at 15:56, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > # > > I expect that > > I clearly dropped the ball in that sentence. Let me finish it up: I expect that we will need to converse in this thread about what should be done next. In the EPEL meeting Kevin me

[EPEL-devel] EPEL-8 Packages needing care and feeding

2022-03-02 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
When EPEL-8 was trying to get out the door, I tried to make it 'fully operational' by having fedpkg in it. It turned out that was a bad idea on my part as I ended up adding about 130 packages to EPEL-8 which have not been updated or cared for since. The problems involved is that I did this with

[EPEL-devel] Re: Missing RHEL 9 buildroot packages in EPEL 9 buildroot

2022-03-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 at 08:19, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 04:21:56AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 3:07 AM Richard W.M. Jones > wrote: > > > > > > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2058274 > > > > > > fails to build with: > > > > >

[EPEL-devel] Re: Missing RHEL 9 buildroot packages in EPEL 9 buildroot

2022-03-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 at 03:06, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2058274 > > fails to build with: > > DEBUG util.py:444: No matching package to install: 'ocaml-dune >= 1.0' > > This package is in RHEL 9 buildroot (ocaml-dune-2.8.5-5.el9.x86_64). > > I

[EPEL-devel] Re: Does EPEL 9 maintain upgrade path from EPEL 8?

2022-02-20 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 at 15:55, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 3:21 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I have a Fedora package that I've recently also branched for EPEL 9. > > > > The (so called) binary package used to be called "python3-tox", but has > been > > renamed to

[EPEL-devel] Re: Plea: Take a moment before you branch everything for EPEL 9

2022-02-17 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
And of course sending emails like this do not help make things better for either party. My apologies and I am going to cut back on sending email without a 24 hour "Did you really want to send this timeout?" On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 at 07:52, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: >

[EPEL-devel] Re: Plea: Take a moment before you branch everything for EPEL 9

2022-02-17 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 at 07:11, Miro Hrončok wrote: > Hello EPEL packagers. > > I get it that you want as much as possible packages available in EPEL 9, > but > before you blindly branch all the dependencies of the packages you care > about, > could you maybe take a step back and consider for a

[EPEL-devel] Re: State of EPEL mock chroots?

2022-02-04 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 at 12:12, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 8:20 AM Stephen John Smoogen > wrote: > >> >> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 at 09:05, Richard Shaw wrote: >> >>> I've gotten frequent requests to support EPEL branches of packages I >>>

[EPEL-devel] Re: btrbk-0.31.3-1 missing dependency

2022-01-27 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 at 07:23, Nick Howitt wrote: > > > On 27/01/2022 12:20, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 at 04:38, Nick Howitt via epel-devel > > > <mailto:epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org>> wrote: > > >

[EPEL-devel] Re: btrbk-0.31.3-1 missing dependency

2022-01-27 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 at 04:38, Nick Howitt via epel-devel < epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Hi gents, > It looks like btrbk has been updated to version 0.31.3-1 in EPEL7 from > 0.25.1-1 and it has a requires of btrfs-progs >= 4.12. Unfortunately > btrfs-progs in Centos 7 is still at

[EPEL-devel] Re: The incredibly shrinking RHEL

2022-01-16 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 at 07:23, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 16. 01. 22 12:49, Andrew C Aitchison wrote: > > On Sun, 16 Jan 2022, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > >> On 15. 01. 22 20:22, Andrew C Aitchison wrote: > >>> On Sat, 15 Jan 2022, Miro Hrončok wrote: > >>> > python-pytest-cov is something I've

[EPEL-devel] Re: The incredibly shrinking RHEL

2022-01-14 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 at 10:57, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > I mirrored the source rpms down and did the following for 8 and 9-stream. > ``` > $ for i in AppStream BaseOS PowerTools; do echo $i; find ./$i -type f > -name "*src.rpm" | xargs rpm --nosignature --qf='

[EPEL-devel] Re: The incredibly shrinking RHEL

2022-01-14 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 at 10:22, Troy Dawson wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 8:12 PM Orion Poplawski wrote: > >> While working on EPEL9, it seems that even more packages are missing >> from RHEL9 than were in RHEL8. The latest I found was cppunit, which >> appears to be completely missing

Re: Koji notifications arriving days late

2021-12-31 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 at 10:58, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 12:19:17PM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > It seems that there is some kind of bottleneck somewhere, because the > > delay often gets progressively worse if there are lots of > > notifications in a short period of

Re: F36 Change: Relocate RPM database to /usr (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-12-30 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 at 13:58, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 1:31 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 02:27:04AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 03:17:42PM +, Tom Hughes via devel wrote: > > > > At this point

Re: F36 Change: Relocate RPM database to /usr (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-12-30 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 at 21:20, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 10:51:44AM -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > F36 but needs to be worked through the proper channels of 'upstream'. Get > > the FHS updated and fixed, work out that the change actually is going to &g

Re: F36 Change: Relocate RPM database to /usr (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-12-29 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 at 16:16, Michel Alexandre Salim < sali...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 10:51:44AM -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > Also please realise that the community can eat only so many changes per > > release no matter how much you w

Re: F36 Change: Relocate RPM database to /usr (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-12-29 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 at 13:51, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 12/29/21 09:59, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > The modern day case where /usr is read-only is inside a container and > > you put an overlay or using some sort of linking to /var which is > > read-write in case of

Re: F36 Change: Relocate RPM database to /usr (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-12-29 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 at 12:49, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 12/29/21 07:26, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 29/12/2021 16:01, Ben Cotton wrote: > >> Currently, the RPM databases is located in `/var`. Let's move it to > >> `/usr`. The move is already under way in rpm-ostree-based > >>

Re: F36 Change: Relocate RPM database to /usr (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-12-29 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 at 10:19, Tom Hughes via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > I don't see how this is FHS compliant, which in turn would make > it non-compliant with Fedora Packaging Guidelines, namely: > > I am in agreement here and think that this is NOT a change to be made in

[EPEL-devel] Re: Status of python-gevent in EL9

2021-12-29 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 at 10:19, Orion Poplawski wrote: > Can someone shed light on the status of python-gevent in EL9? It seems > to have been built for CS9: > > https://kojihub.stream.centos.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=3414 > > (though perhaps not tagged?) > > but builds for EPEL9 fail to

[EPEL-devel] Re: Packages disappearing from the EPEL 9 buildroot

2021-12-29 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 at 06:29, Mattias Ellert wrote: > Hi! > > Two packages I built for EPEL 9 are now reported by koschei as having > missing build dependencies. > > https://koschei.fedoraproject.org/package/davix?collection=epel9 > >

Re: The great Mailman 3 / Hyperkitty upgrade: bumping flufl-lock and mistune?

2021-12-27 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sun, 26 Dec 2021 at 23:32, Reon Beon via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Update? > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8455 I am going to be overly blunt here. Messages like this do NOT help. 1. Most of the people who are paid to work on this are on break for 1/2

Re: Unable to login as root with a recent Rawhide Fedora Cloud image

2021-12-20 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 20 Dec 2021 at 10:31, Ondrej Mosnacek wrote: > > Hi, > > When I set up a rawhide cloud image > (Fedora-Cloud-Base-Rawhide-20211217.n.1.x86_64.qcow2 from > download.fedoraproject.org) with a root password using virt-sysprep: > > virt-sysprep -a --root-password password:123456 >

Re: About how Go is updated in Fedora

2021-12-20 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 20 Dec 2021 at 10:16, Colin Walters wrote: > > > > On Sat, Dec 18, 2021, at 5:06 PM, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > > > Sure, I saw that ticket. But I fail to see how this is this a "new problem". > > If you use, for example, some shiny, new features that are only going > > to be in GCC 12 or

Re: The great Mailman 3 / Hyperkitty upgrade: bumping flufl-lock and mistune?

2021-12-16 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 15 Dec 2021 at 05:51, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 14. 12. 21 23:29, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: > > Hi all, > > - epel-packagers-sig (collaborator, epel* branches) for helping to > >bootstrap on new EL releases > > Fine by me, although I prefer actual maintainers to be responsible

[EPEL-devel] Re: Requesting branches for epel9

2021-12-14 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 at 22:20, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 09:40:19AM -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > It is a fairly manual process where a person volunteers to sit in > > front of the firehose every day and deal with these requests. The > > p

[EPEL-devel] Re: Requesting branches for epel9

2021-12-13 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 at 09:25, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > Hi. > > I have two questions regarding epel9: > > 1) I have requested dozen of epe9 branches for my packages. It was 20+ hours > ago. E.g. > https://pagure.io/releng/fedora-scm-requests/issue/39402 > Is it manual process? Or is the

[EPEL-devel] Re: Builds for EPEL9

2021-12-13 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 at 06:21, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 6:13 AM Troy Dawson wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 1:58 AM Frank Crawford > > wrote: > >> > >> Folks, > >> > >> I'm looking at building a package that currently exists in EPEL8 for > >> EPEL9. I have a

[EPEL-devel] Re: Is anyone still using EPEL8 Playground?

2021-12-11 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 at 11:03, Richard Shaw wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 7:29 AM Troy Dawson wrote: >> >> We (The EPEL Steering Committee) are following up on EPEL issue 136[1] >> regarding the status of EPEL8 Playground. >> >> Looking through the logs we see that there are still people

Re: F36 Change: Enable fs-verity in RPM (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-12-10 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 2 Dec 2021 at 14:37, Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FsVerityRPM > > == Summary == > > Enable the use of fsverity for installed RPM files validation. > > == Owners == > > * Name: [[User:Dcavalca|Davide Cavalca]], [[User:Borisb|Boris > Burkov]],

Re: Fedora EPEL 9 test instance?

2021-12-05 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sun, 5 Dec 2021 at 14:05, Richard Shaw wrote: > > Any plans to add EL 9 to the list of test instances? > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Machine_Resources_For_Package_Maintainers > Could you please put in a ticket to https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue so it can be worked

Re: F36 Change: Enable fs-verity in RPM (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-12-04 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 at 17:09, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 03, 2021 at 06:08:49PM +, Davide Cavalca via devel wrote: > > Broadly speaking, fs-verity makes it possible to ensure that files that > > were installed via an RPM have not been modified. It is useful in > > environments

Re: Question for election candidates: do you support allowing Fedora src-git repositories to be hosted on a proprietary software git forge?

2021-11-29 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 at 16:26, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > > Could we set up open-source Gitlab and run that? Well, history has > shown that the answer is "probably not, actually". > > I don't believe it. If GNOME and KDE and freedesktop.org and Debian and > Purism can all do it, I'm pretty

[EPEL-devel] Re: Mock/Copr default epel-8-* configuration to be changed

2021-11-29 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sun, 28 Nov 2021 at 19:32, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:06 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 2:02 PM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 8:26 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 6:19 AM Nico

Re: [EPEL-devel] Mock/Copr default epel-8-* configuration to be changed

2021-11-29 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sun, 28 Nov 2021 at 19:32, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:06 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 2:02 PM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 8:26 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 6:19 AM Nico

[EPEL-devel] Re: Mock/Copr default epel-8-* configuration to be changed

2021-11-22 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 10:15, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 10:12 AM Carl George wrote: > > > > On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 8:37 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel > > wrote: > > > > > > On 22/11/2021 15:00, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > > > > - builds will require a valid Red Hat subscription

Re: [EPEL-devel] Re: Mock/Copr default epel-8-* configuration to be changed

2021-11-22 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 10:15, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 10:12 AM Carl George wrote: > > > > On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 8:37 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel > > wrote: > > > > > > On 22/11/2021 15:00, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > > > > - builds will require a valid Red Hat subscription

[EPEL-devel] Re: EPEL 9 Next Bodhi updates: Set lower days to stable limit?

2021-11-19 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 at 11:42, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > Hello EPEL people, > > what do you think about setting the Bodhi days to stable limit to 3 days for > EPEL 9 Next (at least until RHEL 9 GA)? > I think EPEL-9 Next being based off of Stream with its major changes should have a small stable

Re: A way to request/vote for packages to add next to Fedora Linux?

2021-11-19 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 at 07:12, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 7:05 AM Ahmed Almeleh > wrote: > > > > I do think voting for packages to be included in the next Fedora release is > > an amazing idea maybe we could create a survey through Google forms or make > > a custom website

[EPEL-devel] Re: DNF replacement in EL 9?

2021-11-17 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 at 12:57, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 12:53 PM Richard Shaw wrote: > > > > I was talking to a software vendor about there install instructions using > > yum instead of dnf for EL 8 and he took the feedback back to the > > development team but the response

Re: F37 Change: RetireARMv7 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-11-16 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 15:10 Peter Boy wrote: > > > > Am 16.11.2021 um 20:37 schrieb Miro Hrončok : > > > > On 15. 11. 21 20:15, Ben Cotton wrote: > >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RetireARMv7 > >> == Owner == > >> * Name: [[User:pbrobinson| Peter Robinson]] > >> * Email: > > > > May

Re: Planned Outage - build systems ( koji, osbs, mbs, src, pdc, kojipkgs, odcs, registriy) - 2021-11-09 17:00 UTC

2021-11-10 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
For full details on the problems please see https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10302 synopsis: z15 move failed, we are still on z13?/z14? until next week or so when this will be tried again. On Wed, 10 Nov 2021 at 06:55, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > > Now they're back up and running

[EPEL-devel] Re: EPEL on RHEL 8.2 broken?

2021-11-09 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 at 10:47, Richard Shaw wrote: > > I requested a CentOS 8 Stream server from IT at $DAYJOB, but it's not IT > approved, so they gave me a RHEL 8.2 instance. Well fine, I don't need their > support but whatever... > > I went to enable EPEL per the docs[1]: > > $ sudo dnf

Re: deltarpm usefulness?

2021-11-09 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 at 04:39, Rajeesh K V wrote: > > > > I remember seeing 60-70% reduction really often, and 90+ periodically. > > > I've > > > read Kevin's explanation of why it's not working as well now, but I wonder > > > what changed between the early implementation when results were very

Re: F35 no USB after today's updates

2021-11-08 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 at 08:16, Sergio Pascual wrote: > > > El lun, 8 nov 2021 a las 13:39, Stephen John Smoogen () > escribió: >> >> On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 at 06:53, Sergio Pascual wrote: >> > >> > Hi, I upgraded my workstation to F35 last Friday, and today

Re: F35 no USB after today's updates

2021-11-08 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 at 06:53, Sergio Pascual wrote: > > Hi, I upgraded my workstation to F35 last Friday, and today I 'dnf updated' > and rebooted. After the reboot, all my USBs are disabled. No mouse, no > keyword. > I know my hardware works because the keyboard works in grub, and the light of

Re: deltarpm usefulness?

2021-11-08 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 at 04:32, Michael Schroeder wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 06, 2021 at 07:43:02AM -, Daniel Alley wrote: > > Another issue - which is not per-se a security issue but it's still a > > problem - is that deltarpm uses md5 checksums pervasively. They're > > everywhere. And it uses

Re: deltarpm usefulness?

2021-11-08 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sun, 7 Nov 2021 at 13:44, Gordon Messmer wrote: > > On 11/7/21 01:14, Rajeesh K V wrote: > > Deltarpm did > > reduce a lot of update download size for many years since 2007 > > > I remember seeing 60-70% reduction really often, and 90+ periodically. > I've read Kevin's explanation of why it's

Re: deltarpm usefulness?

2021-11-08 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 at 05:17, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 11/8/21 01:23, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > > On 11/7/21 12:15 AM, Sumit Bhardwaj wrote: > >> It is not always about speed. There are still plenty of places in the world > >> where people are on limited data plans and to them using delta rpms

Re: deltarpm usefulness?

2021-11-07 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sun, 7 Nov 2021 at 00:16, Sumit Bhardwaj wrote: > > It is not always about speed. There are still plenty of places in the world > where people are on limited data plans and to them using delta rpms makes a > lot of sense. They can work with slow speeds but not with high data expenses. > So

Re: Rawhide kernel crash

2021-11-06 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sat, 6 Nov 2021 at 09:42, edmond pilon wrote: > > Thanks for your reply. > > I have a GTX 1080 and 495.44 drivers. > The crash happens just after the same warning as you. > I'm running the 5.15 rc6 kernel without issue. > The boot problems started since 5.15 rc7 upgrade , and the only

Re: Possibly off topic: Slack will discontinue packaging for Fedora

2021-11-05 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 5 Nov 2021 at 13:25, Gordon Messmer wrote: > > On 11/4/21 17:23, Gordon Messmer wrote: > > I don't know if that's of interest to Fedora, as an organization, but > > on the off-chance that it is: Is anyone in a position to ask someone > > at Slack about that decision? And whether there's

Re: F36 Change: Drop NIS(+) support from PAM (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-10-29 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 29 Oct 2021 at 01:53, Ian Kent wrote: > > On Thu, 2021-10-28 at 10:41 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: > > On Thu, 2021-10-28 at 10:28 -0400, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: > > > Stephen John Smoogen writes: > > > > > > > Mainly because it is the authentic

Re: F36 Change: Package information on ELF objects (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-10-28 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 at 10:03, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > a) Not have Lennart's name tied to a request. That just pulls in all > > kinds of over-the-top statements where people will say 99.99% of the > > people won't use it without any

Re: F36 Change: Package information on ELF objects (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-10-28 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 at 08:51, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > > What I just don't understand is why so much argument over a minuscule > disk space increase. We can argue over the best way to create > backtraces. But trying to step on the toes of other people who are > working on this problem just

Re: F36 Change: Drop NIS(+) support from PAM (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-10-28 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 at 23:47, Ian Kent wrote: > > On Wed, 2021-10-27 at 13:40 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 04:37:18PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > > > == User Experience == > > > For some users this change may be a bit disruptive and it may > > > require > > > some

[EPEL-devel] Re: To buildroot, or not to buildroot

2021-10-19 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 at 01:22, Andrew C Aitchison wrote: > > On Thu, 7 Oct 2021, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > Things have probably improved, but the lesson I learned from EPEL-8 > > and afterwords was that koji depsolving is weird no matter how set up. > > Koji s

Re: Fedora minimum hardware requirements

2021-10-18 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 18 Oct 2021 at 02:20, drago01 wrote: > > > > On Monday, October 18, 2021, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> >> Is it worth paying hundreds of MBytes of installer space, and the new >> 2 GB minimum RAM to simply install Fedora? I'm not saying "discard >> anaconda". I'm saying "be aware of some

Re: OCaml packages failing in ELN

2021-10-14 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 at 07:44, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 03:53:09PM -0600, Jerry James wrote: > > The ELN package builds for the recent OCaml 4.13 update have mostly > > been failing, over and over. I finally took a look at some today; > > they're going to keep failing

[EPEL-devel] Re: why ccache is not available on epel7 ?

2021-10-08 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 at 11:56, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > On Fri, 2021-10-08 at 10:13 -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 at 09:55, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I see ccache for epel 7 here

[EPEL-devel] Re: why ccache is not available on epel7 ?

2021-10-08 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 at 09:55, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > Hi, > > I see ccache for epel 7 here https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/ccache > , but is not available in repos ... why ? > https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/7/x86_64/Packages/c/ccache-3.7.7-1.el7.x86_64.rpm

[EPEL-devel] Re: To buildroot, or not to buildroot

2021-10-07 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 7 Oct 2021 at 09:52, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > > That is the theory, yes, that grobisplitter isn't required. > > But nobody was able to say that was for certain. Thus, it needs to be > > tested. > > > > I've verified this with my internal build infrastructure, so yes, I > know it's not

Re: Onboarding package

2021-10-05 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 5 Oct 2021 at 11:28, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 04, 2021 at 09:17:30PM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > >Is this really necessary? > > > > Yes. Because anyone can add something like this: > > %post > > rm -rf / > > > > And it will destroy the installed system or even

Re: Fedora  Java: The Death of Two SIGs

2021-10-05 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 5 Oct 2021 at 07:26, Peter Boy wrote: > > > > > Am 04.10.2021 um 15:29 schrieb Mikolaj Izdebski : > > > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 2:08 PM Peter Boy wrote: > >> However, we lack concepts on how to proceed after removing java-maint-sig. > >> What consequences do we draw from the analyses?

Re: Onboarding package

2021-10-04 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 at 13:25, Josh Boyer wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 1:10 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > On Mon, Oct 04, 2021 at 10:57:42AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > Thoughts? > > > > I like the idea! > > It's indeed a good idea. > > > We can block such a package from ever appearing in

Re: Slow download speed of RPMs updates

2021-10-02 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sat, 2 Oct 2021 at 03:48, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > > Recently I've started seen a strange behavior of dnf while downloading > RPMs updates: some packages are downloaded at the usual speed of my > connection (ca. 10MBps), while other packages, in the same transaction, > shows really slow

Re: [RFC] Remove supoort for NIS(+) from PAM

2021-10-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 12:51, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 01, 2021 at 12:28:38PM -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 12:21, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: > > > > > > Stephen John Smoogen writes: > > > > > &

Re: [RFC] Remove supoort for NIS(+) from PAM

2021-10-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 12:42, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: > > Stephen John Smoogen writes: > > >> > The places I have seen it still being used are in Universities run by > >> > people who learned sysadmin in the 1990's and early 2000's. It is a > >> >

Re: [RFC] Remove supoort for NIS(+) from PAM

2021-10-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 12:21, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: > > Stephen John Smoogen writes: > > > The places I have seen it still being used are in Universities run by > > people who learned sysadmin in the 1990's and early 2000's. It is a > > light weight syste

Re: [RFC] Remove supoort for NIS(+) from PAM

2021-10-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 06:14, Björn 'besser82' Esser wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm currently doing some experiments with replacing the - upstream > mostly unmaintained - pam_unix module (authentication with user passwd) > with something using less bloated and cleaner code. This topic is > currently

Re: Fedora  Java: The Death of Two SIGs

2021-09-30 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 29 Sept 2021 at 18:49, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: > > As an aside, I'm somewhat surprised that the only commit on the Java > SIG's main wiki page in nearly 4 years is one that simply fixes a > spelling mistake. This doesn't jive with the amount of discussion we've > had on this list nor

Re: Fedora ? Java: The Death of Two SIGs

2021-09-28 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 28 Sept 2021 at 08:20, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 02:06:58PM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > OCaml library code can in principle be dynamically linked, eg: > > > > > > $ rpm -ql ocaml-extlib | grep cmxs > > >

Re: Using YubiKey for accounts.fedoraproject.org OTP?

2021-09-27 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 27 Sept 2021 at 09:28, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > Hello, > > I've been trying to add the OPT token from accounts.fedoraproject.org to my > yubikey. I get a QR code and a otpauth://totp/username?secret=xxx URI. > > I copypasted the xxx secret (56 characters: digits and uppercase letters) and

Re: Fedora  Java: The Death of Two SIGs

2021-09-27 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 27 Sept 2021 at 08:45, Peter Boy wrote: > > > > > Am 27.09.2021 um 12:30 schrieb Fabio Valentini : > > > > On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 12:19 PM Peter Boy wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>> Am 27.09.2021 um 11:13 schrieb Pierre-Yves Chibon : > >>> > >>> On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 10:57:12AM +0200,

Re: Fedora  Java: The Death of Two SIGs

2021-09-27 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sun, 26 Sept 2021 at 16:35, Christopher wrote: > > I think part of the problem is that Java is too big. There are too > many libraries to fit into a single community. I think there's > probably willing volunteers to maintain some libraries and application > packages, but these are not

Re: Copr for ppc64le "No space left on device"

2021-09-22 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 22 Sept 2021 at 10:20, Steven A. Falco wrote: > > The KiCAD project builds "nightly" images via copr. Lately, I'm seeing many > failures for the ppc64le architecture. In some cases [1] I get "Error: > Failed to download metadata for repo 'fedora'". In other cases [2] I get > "pigz:

Re: Koji too busy?

2021-09-20 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 20 Sept 2021 at 04:21, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 20/09/2021 09:41, Евгений Пивнев wrote: > > What happened with koji? > > I can confirm. Koji is too unstable since Thursday. > Could you and others help the Fedora admins with more info on what you mean by unstable? Currently

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Re: Self Introduction: Eric Curtin

2021-09-17 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
Mea-culpa to everyone. On Fri, 17 Sept 2021 at 10:29, Eric Curtin wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > When I write to IRC I get: > > "Cannot send to nick/channel" > > How can I solve this? > > I would like to get added to the following groups, if possible: > > cla_redhat [OBSOLETE] Red Hat Employees CLA

[EPEL-devel] Re: epel-release-latest-7.noarch.rpm is broken

2021-09-13 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 13 Sept 2021 at 02:38, Benjamin Kircher wrote: > > On Mon, 2021-09-13 at 06:20 +, Eduard Ahmatgareev wrote: > > According to documentation: > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/epel/ > > > > EPEL repo: https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/ should contain epel- > >

Re: FF builds

2021-09-10 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 10 Sept 2021 at 14:05, Ken Dreyer wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 9:33 AM Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > We use this in Copr. AFAIK Koji does not use it. You can join Fedora infra > > to change it :) > > Is there more documentation about how Copr uses ccache? I was grepping > around

Re: RH Bugzilla extrem slow loading at enter_bug.cgi for Fedora

2021-09-10 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 10 Sept 2021 at 12:50, Marius Schwarz wrote: > > Hi, > > since a few days, loading the enter_bug.cgi for "Product=Fedora" on RH > BZ takes very long. > It's quite possible, that it's happening for any other product too ;) > > It's over a minute ATM. > > Can someone take a look at this, or

Re: FF builds

2021-09-10 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 10 Sept 2021 at 09:33, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > Dne 09. 09. 21 v 18:54 Demi Marie Obenour napsal(a): > > Can the Firefox build be distributed among multiple machines? > > I would love to see a benchmark how much it speed up big packages and how it > slow downs smaller packages. Whole

Re: FF builds

2021-09-09 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 9 Sept 2021 at 13:01, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 12:55 PM Demi Marie Obenour > wrote: > > Also, could the Fedora project itself perform at least > > basic QA for critical security patches? > > > > Who do you think is the "Fedora Project"? It's us in the community! > >

[EPEL-devel] Re: Building EPEL-8 package depending on module

2021-09-06 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 6 Sept 2021 at 07:07, Petr Pisar wrote: > > V Sun, Sep 05, 2021 at 09:47:51PM +0200, Stefan Bluhm napsal(a): > > I am trying to build a package for EPEL-8. > > (https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=75036069) > > > > The build fails with > > > > No matching package to

Re: F35 3x slower boot than F34

2021-09-05 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sun, 5 Sept 2021 at 07:12, Peter Boy wrote: > > > > > Am 05.09.2021 um 09:32 schrieb Samuel Sieb : > > > > On 2021-09-05 12:19 a.m., Peter Boy wrote: > >> Much to my chagrin, you describe the biggest problem in Fedora for years > >> and the one why Fedora is falling further and further behind

Re: Wine MinGW system libraries

2021-09-02 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 2 Sept 2021 at 12:42, Zebediah Figura wrote: > > Hello all, > > I'm a contributor to the Wine project. To summarize the following mail, > Wine needs special versions of some of its normal dependencies, such as > libfreetype and libgnutls, built using the MinGW cross-compiler, and I'm >

[EPEL-devel] Re: CPE to staff EPEL work

2021-09-02 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 2 Sept 2021 at 09:29, Troy Dawson wrote: > > We are pleased to announce that Red Hat is establishing a small team > directly responsible for participating in EPEL activities. Their job > isn't to displace the EPEL community, but rather to support it > full-time. We expect many beneficial

Re: Where has the kernel-doc package gone?

2021-08-30 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 30 Aug 2021 at 13:07, Nils K wrote: > > I recently had to perform a bit of development/research where I often had to > take a look in the kernel documentation. > > Most of the time was spend offline so I wanted to download the `kernel-doc` > package however it does not seem to exist. >

Re: are s390x builders overloaded? Or have they been reconfigured?

2021-08-27 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 at 10:27, Kaleb Keithley wrote: > > > Hi, > > My two most recent ceph builds on s390x have been oom killed. > > As recently as four days ago they were building fine. > > Any ideas? No idea without links to actual koji build logs to see which of the systems it might be.

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