Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Paul Frields
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 5:23 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Tue, 2020-03-31 at 17:06 -0400, Paul Frields wrote: > > > > > Sure. I tend to think of these as 'upstream projects' that we (Fedora) > > > consume as a downstream. Project hosting has always been a kinda > > > optional bolt-on, I

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2020-03-31 at 17:06 -0400, Paul Frields wrote: > > > Sure. I tend to think of these as 'upstream projects' that we (Fedora) > > consume as a downstream. Project hosting has always been a kinda > > optional bolt-on, I think; going back to the days of fedorahosted.org I > > don't think

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Paul Frields
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 3:25 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Tue, 2020-03-31 at 21:18 +0200, Clement Verna wrote: > > On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 20:04, Adam Williamson > > wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 2020-03-31 at 13:55 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:44:35AM -0700,

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread clime
Dne út 31. bře 2020 21:00 uživatel Clement Verna napsal: > > > On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 14:57, Neal Gompa wrote: > >> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 7:10 AM Clement Verna >> wrote: >> > >> > I just want to give a bit of insight from someone who is working day to >> day on Fedora's infrastructure, since

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Robbie Harwood
Clement Verna writes: > Neal Gompa wrote: >> Clement Verna wrote: >> >> As for Pagure itself, I think this is where we fundamentally >> disagree. I think it behooves us to own and provide an experience >> tailored for our community from beginning to end. That's why we have >> Koji, Bodhi,

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Przemek Klosowski via devel
On 3/31/20 1:40 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 13:08:05 -0400,  Matthew Miller wrote: We did communicate as the very top line of our gathered requirements that open source is essential to our community and central to our feedback. I'm not trying to be soft on that.

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2020-03-31 at 21:18 +0200, Clement Verna wrote: > On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 20:04, Adam Williamson > wrote: > > > On Tue, 2020-03-31 at 13:55 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:44:35AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > I'm sorry, but I have to agree with Kevin

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Clement Verna
On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 20:04, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2020-03-31 at 13:55 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:44:35AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > I'm sorry, but I have to agree with Kevin and Michael here to a > > > significant extent. Running our own

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 11:34:35AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2020-03-31 at 12:55 +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > > > > > What really worries to me is that: > > > * using GitLab as SaaS is being considered, and > > > * for self-hosting, using the proprietary "enterprise" editions is

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2020-03-31 at 20:59 +0200, Clement Verna wrote: > > > The Fedora community itself has indicated that they want to keep on > > with Pagure, and many Fedorans are Pythonistas, which means that > > everyone can easily contribute to help make it better for everyone. > > > > Genuine

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 2:37 AM Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:38 PM Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 5:56 AM Leigh Griffin wrote: >> > >> > We haven't ironed out the full details but what was incredibly clear to us >> > was that Gitlab was the

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Clement Verna
On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 14:57, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 7:10 AM Clement Verna > wrote: > > > > I just want to give a bit of insight from someone who is working day to > day on Fedora's infrastructure, since I believe that might help give a bit > more empathy towards the Why of

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 12:40:55PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: ...snip... > > Because of switching costs, this is likely to prevent us from going back to > Pagure if it does develop a vibrant independent community. That would be > unfortunate. So, currently we are using pagure on

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 11:45 AM Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Tue, 2020-03-31 at 13:08 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:48:55AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > > Some failure of process or communication must have occurred > > > somewhere along the lines, because

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2020-03-31 at 12:55 +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 12:42:18PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an > > > incredible number of requirements from multiple stakeholder sources. On > > >

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2020-03-31 at 13:55 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:44:35AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > I'm sorry, but I have to agree with Kevin and Michael here to a > > significant extent. Running our own project on open source code has > > always been a very big bright

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 13:08:05 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: We did communicate as the very top line of our gathered requirements that open source is essential to our community and central to our feedback. I'm not trying to be soft on that. Let's just not do purity-test level assessments and

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:44:35AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > I'm sorry, but I have to agree with Kevin and Michael here to a > significant extent. Running our own project on open source code has > always been a very big bright line for Fedora. You don't have to be sorry! I think it's very

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:31:21AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > I specifically mentioned at least the FSF angle on this mailing list, > over a month ago: > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/EJAKU3MO4T5ZEWEBUWIRSGBWTFQU44QK/ > > so at least

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 07:30:16PM +0200, Iñaki Ucar wrote: > That's a false equivalence. Yes, many of us maintain projects on > GitHub and/or GitLab due to a variety of reasons, but if any of them > die tomorrow, I simply change the "upstream" in my clones and keep > going. If Fedora starts using

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2020-03-31 at 13:08 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:48:55AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > Some failure of process or communication must have occurred > > somewhere along the lines, because open source should have been the > > first and most important

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2020-03-31 at 17:47 +0200, jkone...@redhat.com wrote: > -- snip -- > > As for Pagure itself, I think this is where we fundamentally > > disagree. > > I think it behooves us to own and provide an experience tailored for > > our community from beginning to end. That's why we have Koji,

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Iñaki Ucar
On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 19:15, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:48:55AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > Some failure of process or communication must have occurred > > somewhere along the lines, because open source should have been the > > first and most important

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:48:55AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > Some failure of process or communication must have occurred > somewhere along the lines, because open source should have been the > first and most important requirement. A proprietary software > solution is incompatible with the

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 12:42 pm, Kevin Kofler wrote: What really worries to me is that: * using GitLab as SaaS is being considered, and * for self-hosting, using the proprietary "enterprise" editions is not excluded. I think that using anything other than Free Software as the hosting

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread jkonecny
-- snip -- > > As for Pagure itself, I think this is where we fundamentally > disagree. > I think it behooves us to own and provide an experience tailored for > our community from beginning to end. That's why we have Koji, Bodhi, > Dist-Git, and many other tools in that part of the lifecycle. The

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread jkonecny
On Tue, 2020-03-31 at 12:47 +0200, Felix Schwarz wrote: > Am 31.03.20 um 12:42 schrieb Kevin Kofler: > > I think that using anything other than Free Software as the hosting > > platform > > for Fedora should be an absolute no go. In other words, self-hosted > > GitLab > > CE or Pagure, no other

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:37 AM Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 12:55:39 +0200, > Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > > > Being self-hosted is a nice goal, but not important enough. > >There are parts of Fedora infrastructure which are not using Fedora, > >but other distributions like

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 12:55:39 +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: Being self-hosted is a nice goal, but not important enough. There are parts of Fedora infrastructure which are not using Fedora, but other distributions like RHEL. We seem to have not problem in using proprietary SAAS solutions for

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 7:10 AM Clement Verna wrote: > > I just want to give a bit of insight from someone who is working day to day > on Fedora's infrastructure, since I believe that might help give a bit more > empathy towards the Why of this decision. > > For me the Fedora's Infrastructure

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Guido Aulisi
Il giorno mar, 31/03/2020 alle 12.42 +0200, Kevin Kofler ha scritto: > Leigh Griffin wrote: > > Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an > > incredible number of requirements from multiple stakeholder > > sources. On > > Friday evening we announced on the Community Blog > >

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Clement Verna
On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 13:46, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 31. 03. 20 13:09, Clement Verna wrote: > > On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 11:41, Miro Hrončok > > wrote: > > > > On 31. 03. 20 10:36, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > I respect that there is disagreement but Gitlab is

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 31. 03. 20 13:09, Clement Verna wrote: On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 11:41, Miro Hrončok > wrote: On 31. 03. 20 10:36, Leigh Griffin wrote: > I respect that there is disagreement but Gitlab is the choice we are making. I always try to assume good

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 31. 03. 20 12:41, Leigh Griffin wrote: Am I wrong? Yes. Thanks for clarifying that. -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Kevin Kofler
Tomasz Torcz wrote: > We seem to have not problem in using proprietary SAAS solutions for > critical stuff. And that is exactly what I am complaining about. Kevin Kofler ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Clement Verna
On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 11:41, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 31. 03. 20 10:36, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > I respect that there is disagreement but Gitlab is the choice we are > making. > > I always try to assume good intentions, but this is very hard now. I > understand > this statement as follows: > >

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 12:42:18PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Leigh Griffin wrote: > > Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an > > incredible number of requirements from multiple stakeholder sources. On > > Friday evening we announced on the Community Blog > >

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 11:48 AM Felix Schwarz wrote: > > Am 31.03.20 um 12:42 schrieb Kevin Kofler: > > I think that using anything other than Free Software as the hosting > platform > > for Fedora should be an absolute no go. In other words, self-hosted > GitLab > > CE or Pagure, no other

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 11:43 AM Kevin Kofler wrote: > Leigh Griffin wrote: > > Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an > > incredible number of requirements from multiple stakeholder sources. On > > Friday evening we announced on the Community Blog > >

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Felix Schwarz
Am 31.03.20 um 12:42 schrieb Kevin Kofler: > I think that using anything other than Free Software as the hosting platform > for Fedora should be an absolute no go. In other words, self-hosted GitLab > CE or Pagure, no other options. +1 with one minor(?) exception: I'm ok with using a hosted

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Kevin Kofler
Leigh Griffin wrote: > Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an > incredible number of requirements from multiple stakeholder sources. On > Friday evening we announced on the Community Blog > our >

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:41 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 31. 03. 20 10:36, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > I respect that there is disagreement but Gitlab is the choice we are > making. > > I always try to assume good intentions, but this is very hard now. I > understand > this statement as follows: >

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 31. 03. 20 10:36, Leigh Griffin wrote: I respect that there is disagreement but Gitlab is the choice we are making. I always try to assume good intentions, but this is very hard now. I understand this statement as follows: "After collecting the requirements, we have not discussed the

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 8:10 AM Petr Kubat wrote: > From the community blog this decision seems more like a "what can we use > to make CentOS Stream work" rather than an open community-made choice of > what is best for Fedora. > The needs of Fedora, CentOS, RHEL and the CPE team were weighed

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:38 PM Chris Murphy wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 5:56 AM Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > We haven't ironed out the full details but what was incredibly clear to > us was that Gitlab was the decision to make. The next step in getting there > is what we are engaging in

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 9:55 PM Till Maas wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 02:40:13PM +, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 3:26 PM Till Maas wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 01:59:07PM +, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 30. 03. 20 v 17:41 Pavel Raiskup napsal(a): > The only problem of GitLab is that Fedora - for years - was not able to > package it. I'm not a able to judge where the packaging problem is/was, > any more info? Are we going invest into packaging it? It was lot of dependencies, bundling,

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Petr Kubat
From the community blog this decision seems more like a "what can we use to make CentOS Stream work" rather than an open community-made choice of what is best for Fedora. On 3/30/20 11:17 AM, Leigh Griffin wrote: Hi everyone, Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-31 Thread Clement Verna
On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 22:55, Till Maas wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 02:40:13PM +, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 3:26 PM Till Maas wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 01:59:07PM +, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 5:56 AM Leigh Griffin wrote: > > We haven't ironed out the full details but what was incredibly clear to us > was that Gitlab was the decision to make. The next step in getting there is > what we are engaging in now to get thoughts and suggestions and expect > several

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Ben Cotton
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 4:55 PM Till Maas wrote: > > Please be more specific. Are these the requirements from the discussion > different ones? The discussion had 47 requirements, 1 and 2 were > challenged and 47 mentioned as nice-to-have. Who submitted them? I guess > it was Ben. > Yes, I sent

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Till Maas
Hi, On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 02:40:13PM +, Leigh Griffin wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 3:26 PM Till Maas wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 01:59:07PM +, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:18 PM Till Maas wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > On

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Simo Sorce
On Mon, 2020-03-30 at 17:41 +0200, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > On Monday, March 30, 2020 11:17:21 AM CEST Leigh Griffin wrote: > > Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an incredible > > number of requirements from multiple stakeholder sources. On Friday evening > > we announced

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Matthias Runge
On 30/03/2020 17:41, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > The only problem of GitLab is that Fedora - for years - was not able to > package it. I'm not a able to judge where the packaging problem is/was, > any more info? Are we going invest into packaging it? > > Please make us 100% confident we are not

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Pavel Raiskup
On Monday, March 30, 2020 11:17:21 AM CEST Leigh Griffin wrote: > Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an incredible > number of requirements from multiple stakeholder sources. On Friday evening > we announced on the Community Blog >

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 3:36 PM Matthias Runge wrote: > On 30/03/2020 16:23, Till Maas wrote: > > For transparency, we have published the full User Story list which is > linked within the blog and for ease of searching is here: > https://hackmd.io/@My419-DISUGgo4gcmO1D6A/HJB74lcL8

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 3:26 PM Till Maas wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 01:59:07PM +, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:18 PM Till Maas wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:04:03AM +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > > > > For transparency,

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Matthias Runge
On 30/03/2020 16:23, Till Maas wrote: For transparency, we have published the full User Story list which is linked within the blog and for ease of searching is here: https://hackmd.io/@My419-DISUGgo4gcmO1D6A/HJB74lcL8 >

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 3:07 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 4:00 PM Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:01 PM Miro Hrončok > wrote: > >> > >> On 30. 03. 20 14:13, Neal Gompa wrote: > >> > And unlike Alioth, we have*serious* > >> > integration

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Till Maas
Hi, On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 01:59:07PM +, Leigh Griffin wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:18 PM Till Maas wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:04:03AM +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > > For transparency, we have published the full User Story list which is > > > linked

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 4:00 PM Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:01 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: >> >> On 30. 03. 20 14:13, Neal Gompa wrote: >> > And unlike Alioth, we have*serious* >> > integration across the board with Pagure, and a good chunk of it is >> > not possible to

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:18 PM Till Maas wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:04:03AM +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > For transparency, we have published the full User Story list which is > > linked within the blog and for ease of searching is here: > >

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:01 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 30. 03. 20 14:13, Neal Gompa wrote: > > And unlike Alioth, we have*serious* > > integration across the board with Pagure, and a good chunk of it is > > not possible to implement in GitLab. Features we have in here were > > designed to meet

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 1:15 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:56 AM Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:31 AM Julen Landa Alustiza < > jla...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > >> > >> Sincelery, after reading the initial announcement, I was expecting a > >> more

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Till Maas
Hi, On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:04:03AM +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > For transparency, we have published the full User Story list which is > linked within the blog and for ease of searching is here: > https://hackmd.io/@My419-DISUGgo4gcmO1D6A/HJB74lcL8 the user stories list does not seem to

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 9:00 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 30. 03. 20 14:13, Neal Gompa wrote: > > And unlike Alioth, we have*serious* > > integration across the board with Pagure, and a good chunk of it is > > not possible to implement in GitLab. Features we have in here were > > designed to

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 30. 03. 20 14:13, Neal Gompa wrote: And unlike Alioth, we have*serious* integration across the board with Pagure, and a good chunk of it is not possible to implement in GitLab. Features we have in here were designed to meet the needs of Fedorans that we will be forced to give up. I want to

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:56 AM Leigh Griffin wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:31 AM Julen Landa Alustiza > wrote: >> >> Sincelery, after reading the initial announcement, I was expecting a >> more visible and open to the community discussion scenario. >> > >> > For transparency, we have

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:31 AM Julen Landa Alustiza < jla...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > > 20/3/30 12:04(e)an, Leigh Griffin igorleak idatzi zuen: > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:55 AM Iñaki Ucar > > wrote: > > > > Hi Leigh, > > > > On Mon, 30

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:19 AM Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:17:21AM +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an > incredible > > number of requirements from multiple stakeholder sources. On

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 30. 03. 20 11:17, Leigh Griffin wrote: Hi everyone, Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an incredible number of requirements from multiple stakeholder sources. On Friday evening we announced on the Community Blog

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Julen Landa Alustiza
20/3/30 12:04(e)an, Leigh Griffin igorleak idatzi zuen: > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:55 AM Iñaki Ucar > wrote: > > Hi Leigh, > > On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 11:30, Leigh Griffin > wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, >

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Iñaki Ucar
On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 12:15, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:55 AM Iñaki Ucar wrote: >> >> Hi Leigh, >> >> On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 11:30, Leigh Griffin wrote: >> > >> > Hi everyone, >> > >> > Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an >> > incredible

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:17:21AM +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an incredible > number of requirements from multiple stakeholder sources. On Friday evening > we announced on the Community Blog >

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:55 AM Iñaki Ucar wrote: > Hi Leigh, > > On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 11:30, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an > incredible number of requirements from multiple stakeholder sources. On > Friday

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Iñaki Ucar
Hi Leigh, On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 11:30, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an incredible > number of requirements from multiple stakeholder sources. On Friday evening > we announced on the Community Blog our decision to adopt

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Guido Aulisi
Il giorno lun 30 mar 2020 alle 11:21 Leigh Griffin ha scritto: > Hi everyone, > > Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an > incredible number of requirements from multiple stakeholder sources. On > Friday evening we announced on the Community Blog >

CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Leigh Griffin
Hi everyone, Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an incredible number of requirements from multiple stakeholder sources. On Friday evening we announced on the Community Blog our decision to adopt

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