Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

> wrote: >> > > >> > > > >> > > > From: Alec Leamas [mailto:leamas.a...@gmail.com] >> > > > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 09:39 >> > > > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >> > > > Subject: Re: F25 System Wide Change:

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

mailto:leamas.a...@gmail.com] > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 09:39 > > > > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > > Subject: Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as > > > > default > > > > reposdir > > > > >

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

Hi, On Wed, 2016-05-18 at 11:10 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2016-05-13 at 15:19 +0200, Petr Spacek wrote: > > > > > > +1 > > > > The Change Page did not even try to weight pros and cons. IMHO cons > > (as > > described above) are worse that living with original name, which is > >

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

Hey guys, I'm working with Jan & Honza on the RHEL side of the house. Currently we're slated to keep yum as the primary name/command for package management in RHEL. It may or may not be backed by dnf at some point; we're still looking at the pros & cons and how to bring better compatibility if

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On 19/05/16 21:26, Neal Gompa wrote: On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:42 AM, John Florian <john.flor...@dart.biz> wrote: From: Alec Leamas [mailto:leamas.a...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 09:39 To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.r

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:42 AM, John Florian <john.flor...@dart.biz> wrote: >> From: Alec Leamas [mailto:leamas.a...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 09:39 >> To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >> Subject: Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.

RE: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

> From: Alec Leamas [mailto:leamas.a...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 09:39 > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Subject: Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default > reposdir > > > > On 19/05/16 15:16, John Florian wrote: > >>

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On 05/18/2016 09:38 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2016-05-18 at 15:02 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 11:10:57AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2016-05-13 at 15:19 +0200, Petr Spacek wrote: +1 The Change Page did not even try to weight pros and cons. IMHO

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On 19/05/16 15:16, John Florian wrote: From: Jonathan Wakely [mailto:jwak...@fedoraproject.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 15:15 Another +1 here. There are plenty of software vendors (e.g. Google and Adobe, to name two people might have heard of) that provide the option of installing their

RE: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

> From: Jonathan Wakely [mailto:jwak...@fedoraproject.org] > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 15:15 > > Another +1 here. There are plenty of software vendors (e.g. Google and > Adobe, to name two people might have heard of) that provide the option of > installing their software via an RPM, which

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 12:38:37PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2016-05-18 at 15:02 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > > On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 11:10:57AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Fri, 2016-05-13 at 15:19 +0200, Petr Spacek wrote: > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > The

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On Wed, 2016-05-18 at 15:02 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 11:10:57AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Fri, 2016-05-13 at 15:19 +0200, Petr Spacek wrote: > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > The Change Page did not even try to weight pros and cons. IMHO cons (as > > > described

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On Wed, May 18, 2016, at 03:06 PM, Subhendu Ghosh wrote: > Is ostree  remotes in scope? ostree has /etc/ostree/remotes.d today...the only thing I can think of here is that there are certainly use cases for having some common configuration between yum repos and ostree remotes - things like TLS

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On 18/05/16 15:02 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 11:10:57AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2016-05-13 at 15:19 +0200, Petr Spacek wrote: > > +1 > > The Change Page did not even try to weight pros and cons. IMHO cons (as > described above) are worse that living with

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On 18/05/16 11:10 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2016-05-13 at 15:19 +0200, Petr Spacek wrote: +1 The Change Page did not even try to weight pros and cons. IMHO cons (as described above) are worse that living with original name, which is well-known, well-documented, and relied on.

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

Is ostree remotes in scope? On May 12, 2016 03:37, "Jan Kurik" wrote: > = Proposed System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir > = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReposInEtcDistroReposD > > Change owner(s): > * Neal Gompa > * Jan Silhan > > > ==

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 11:10:57AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2016-05-13 at 15:19 +0200, Petr Spacek wrote: > > > > +1 > > > > The Change Page did not even try to weight pros and cons. IMHO cons (as > > described above) are worse that living with original name, which is > >

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On Fri, 2016-05-13 at 15:19 +0200, Petr Spacek wrote: > > +1 > > The Change Page did not even try to weight pros and cons. IMHO cons (as > described above) are worse that living with original name, which is > well-known, well-documented, and relied on. Another +1 here. I think the name should

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On 05/17/2016 04:48 PM, Lukas Zapletal wrote: > Sure. I always find annoying when there are two entities: > > something.conf > something.d/ > > so in order to expend the directory, I need to tab twice. I hope there > will be no repos.conf :-) Right. Wouldn't have been better to go with the

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On 05/17/2016 04:32 PM, Till Maas wrote: Your argument sounds like yum.repos.d would be the best name for the repo definitions that are recognised by the yum parser and other implementations for this format. More accurate and more distro agnostic would be system like rpm or npm etc >.repos.d

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Till Maas wrote: > On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 08:58:18PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> On 05/12/2016 07:46 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > >> > Nothing says that in the future, we couldn't handle other kinds. >> > Fundamentally, libsolv can

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 08:58:18PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On 05/12/2016 07:46 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > > Nothing says that in the future, we couldn't handle other kinds. > > Fundamentally, libsolv can process rpm-md/yum, susetags/yast2, hdlist2 > > (mdk), and helix repos. And those are

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On 05/17/2016 02:48 PM, Lukas Zapletal wrote: With a symlink /etc/yum.repos.d to it. And for other type repository's -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

> >> /etc/repos.d is less typing. Yes, please! With a symlink /etc/yum.repos.d to it. > The .d suffix is a meaningful distinction. It denotes a drop-in directory > (where > anything placed in it is meant to be automatically picked up and used, > assuming > it is in the correct format). Sure.

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On 05/17/2016 02:14 PM, Honza Šilhan wrote: there are a lot of good suggestions about the path name in the discussion. `/etc/distro.repos.d` probably wasn't the best chosen path so we've changed it to `/etc/repos.d` in the proposal. Moreover I've mentioned there possible path name

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

d use .repos.d for consistency `/etc/rpm.repos.d` - indicate it's a directory with configuration files to rpm package so `/etc/rpm-md.repos.d` would be IMO preferable. > From: "Remi Collet" <fed...@famillecollet.com> > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Friday, May 1

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

I'll jump on the /etc/repos.d bandwagon. It follows a convention commonly found in lots of other configuration directories and I feel it's much more concise and clear than /etc/distro.repos.d. I'm not sure I fully understand the rationale behind using distros.repos.d as the directory name in

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

Dne 12.5.2016 v 17:51 Mike Chambers napsal(a): > Hell, if really want to make it simple, why not just /etc/repos.d? +1 -- Miroslav Suchy, RHCA Red Hat, Senior Software Engineer, #brno, #devexp, #fedora-buildsys -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On 13.5.2016 15:01, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 7:00 AM, Remi Collet wrote: >> Le 12/05/2016 à 09:36, Jan Kurik a écrit : >>> = Proposed System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir = >>>

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 7:00 AM, Remi Collet wrote: > Le 12/05/2016 à 09:36, Jan Kurik a écrit : >> = Proposed System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir = >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReposInEtcDistroReposD > > > Perhaps the 1st goal

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

Le 12/05/2016 à 09:36, Jan Kurik a écrit : > = Proposed System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReposInEtcDistroReposD Perhaps the 1st goal should be "have compatible configuration files for yum and dnf". For memory this is not

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:25 PM, Bernardo Sulzbach wrote: > On 05/12/2016 09:58 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> >> >> Even if we could, I don't think it would be a good idea to have a single >> drop-directory for all of them. That's introducing too much complexity on

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On 05/12/2016 09:58 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: Even if we could, I don't think it would be a good idea to have a single drop-directory for all of them. That's introducing too much complexity on the behalf of the tools that have to parse them. I believe that this is the best point against a

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 8:58 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On 05/12/2016 07:46 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: >> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 5:29 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: >>> On 05/12/2016 07:14 AM, Parag Nemade wrote: I will suggest /etc/package.repos.d

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On 05/12/2016 07:46 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 5:29 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: >> On 05/12/2016 07:14 AM, Parag Nemade wrote: >>> >>> I will suggest /etc/package.repos.d that way we can be more neutral in >>> having repos directory using various different

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 5:29 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: > On 05/12/2016 07:14 AM, Parag Nemade wrote: >> >> I will suggest /etc/package.repos.d that way we can be more neutral in >> having repos directory using various different packaging formats. >> >> Regards, >> Parag. > >

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On 05/12/2016 07:14 AM, Parag Nemade wrote: > > I will suggest /etc/package.repos.d that way we can be more neutral in > having repos directory using various different packaging formats. > > Regards, > Parag. But we're not neutral, are we? These tools currently only handle "yum" style

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

Tomasz Torcz writes: > Shouldn't that be /usr/lib/distro.repos.d (for distribution-provided -1 Having such a small amount of information spread all over the filesystem only makes things harder to manage. Keeping it in one place means the whole "where am I getting stuff"

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 8:47 AM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > > > On 05/12/2016 08:07 AM, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > >> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 09:36:32AM +0200, Jan Kurik wrote: >> >>> = Proposed System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default >>> reposdir = >>>

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On 05/12/2016 11:52 AM, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Thu, 2016-05-12 at 13:57 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: >> /etc/repos.d is less typing. > > +1 > > Or better yet, just /etc/repos? > The .d suffix is a meaningful distinction. It denotes a drop-in directory (where anything placed in it is

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On Thu, 2016-05-12 at 13:57 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > /etc/repos.d is less typing. +1 Or better yet, just /etc/repos?  -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On Thu, 2016-05-12 at 16:27 +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: > On 05/12/2016 11:07 AM, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > > > On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 09:36:32AM +0200, Jan Kurik wrote: > > > > > > = Proposed System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default > > > reposdir = > > >

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On 05/12/2016 11:07 AM, Tomasz Torcz wrote: On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 09:36:32AM +0200, Jan Kurik wrote: = Proposed System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReposInEtcDistroReposD Change owner(s): * Neal Gompa * Jan Silhan ==

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

Hi, On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Jan Kurik wrote: > = Proposed System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReposInEtcDistroReposD > > Change owner(s): > * Neal Gompa > * Jan Silhan > > > == Detailed

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On Thursday, May 12, 2016 9:36:32 AM CDT Jan Kurik wrote: > = Proposed System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReposInEtcDistroReposD > > Change owner(s): > * Neal Gompa > * Jan Silhan > > > == Detailed Description == > For

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

/etc/repos.d is less typing. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming and virtualization blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com virt-p2v converts physical machines to virtual machines. Boot with a live CD or over the network (PXE) and

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On 05/12/2016 08:07 AM, Tomasz Torcz wrote: On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 09:36:32AM +0200, Jan Kurik wrote: = Proposed System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReposInEtcDistroReposD Change owner(s): * Neal Gompa * Jan Silhan ==

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

After re-thinking proposal It's very cool idea! On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:07 AM, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 09:36:32AM +0200, Jan Kurik wrote: >> = Proposed System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir = >>

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On Thu, 2016-05-12 at 20:54 +1000, Dan Callaghan wrote: > Excerpts from Tom Hughes's message of 2016-05-12 09:15 +01:00: > > > > On 12/05/16 09:07, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > > > > >    Shouldn't that be /usr/lib/distro.repos.d (for  > > >    distribution-provided > > > data) with usual rules for

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

Excerpts from Tom Hughes's message of 2016-05-12 09:15 +01:00: > On 12/05/16 09:07, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > >Shouldn't that be /usr/lib/distro.repos.d (for > >distribution-provided > > data) with usual rules for overriding/masking in /etc/distro.repos.d (for > > local administrator)? > >

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 4:27 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > Peter Robinson wrote on 12.05.2016 10:11: = Proposed System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReposInEtcDistroReposD Change

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

Peter Robinson wrote on 12.05.2016 10:11: >>> = Proposed System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir = >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReposInEtcDistroReposD >>> >>> Change owner(s): >>> * Neal Gompa >>> * Jan Silhan >>> >>> >>> == Detailed Description == >>> For

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

Dne 12.5.2016 v 10:11 Peter Robinson napsal(a): >>> = Proposed System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir = >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReposInEtcDistroReposD >>> >>> Change owner(s): >>> * Neal Gompa >>> * Jan Silhan >>> >>> >>> == Detailed Description ==

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On 12/05/16 09:07, Tomasz Torcz wrote: On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 09:36:32AM +0200, Jan Kurik wrote: For DNF 2.0 in Fedora 25, the DNF team would like to make the default repository configuration directory /etc/distro.repos.d. In contrast to /etc/yum.repos.d (current default path),

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

>> = Proposed System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir = >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReposInEtcDistroReposD >> >> Change owner(s): >> * Neal Gompa >> * Jan Silhan >> >> >> == Detailed Description == >> For DNF 2.0 in Fedora 25, the DNF team would like to make

Re: F25 System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 09:36:32AM +0200, Jan Kurik wrote: > = Proposed System Wide Change: Use /etc/distro.repos.d as default reposdir = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReposInEtcDistroReposD > > Change owner(s): > * Neal Gompa > * Jan Silhan > > > == Detailed Description == > For