Re: armv7l status?

2020-05-14 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
W dniu 14.05.2020 o 14:34, Florian Weimer pisze: > Just to be clear here, armhfp is *not* the common denominator of all > 32-bit Arm architectures. It does not cover the overall architecture in > the sense that is compatible to with everything out there. (I'm not > sure if that is even

Re: armv7l status?

2020-05-14 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 8:13 am, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: You keep thinking that ARM is a secondary architecture and it would be on alt.fedoraproject.org. ARM is a primary architecture and so would NOT show up on alt. ARM has been a primary architecture for many releases so this isn't new.

Re: armv7l status?

2020-05-14 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 12:49:35PM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 9:51 am, Stephen John Smoogen > wrote: > >Those pages are needing some love and care as aarch64 should not > >be on it anymore. Currently the primary architectures that Fedora > >builds against are > > >

Re: armv7l status?

2020-05-14 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 7:34 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > * Peter Robinson: > > > armhfp is "Arm hard floating point" which covers the overall ARM 32 > > bit architecture, there can be different variants in there, armv6, > > armv7, armv7+NEON, armv8 (the 32 bit variant as opposed to aarch64) > >

Re: armv7l status?

2020-05-14 Thread Peter Robinson
> > armhfp is "Arm hard floating point" which covers the overall ARM 32 > > bit architecture, there can be different variants in there, armv6, > > armv7, armv7+NEON, armv8 (the 32 bit variant as opposed to aarch64) > > and so on... > > Just to be clear here, armhfp is *not* the common denominator

Re: armv7l status?

2020-05-14 Thread Florian Weimer
* Peter Robinson: > armhfp is "Arm hard floating point" which covers the overall ARM 32 > bit architecture, there can be different variants in there, armv6, > armv7, armv7+NEON, armv8 (the 32 bit variant as opposed to aarch64) > and so on... Just to be clear here, armhfp is *not* the common

Re: armv7l status?

2020-05-14 Thread Florian Weimer
* Stephen John Smoogen: > When x86_64 splits into 48 bit memory path to some larger memory (60 > bit I think is discussed) sometime in the future, we will probably > still call it x86_64 but build x86_64b packages. This has already happened. You did not notice it because it did not require

Re: armv7l status?

2020-05-14 Thread Peter Robinson
> > Those pages are needing some love and care as aarch64 should not be > > on it anymore. Currently the primary architectures that Fedora builds > > against are > > > > [smooge@batcave01 32]$ ls -l Workstation/ > > total 12 > > drwxr-xr-x. 3 263 263 4096 2020-04-23 00:09 aarch64/ > > drwxr-xr-x.

Re: armv7l status?

2020-05-14 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 13:50, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 9:51 am, Stephen John Smoogen > wrote: > > Those pages are needing some love and care as aarch64 should not be > > on it anymore. Currently the primary architectures that Fedora builds > > against are > > > >

Re: armv7l status?

2020-05-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
James, so you guys still rely on koji for builds? That's relevant for this thread m On Wed, May 13, 2020, 5:31 PM James Cameron wrote: > Thanks Martin. > > That release was a respin of Fedora 18. Regressions in Fedora 20, and > our downsize at OLPC, stopped us tracking Fedora. > > Lubomir

Re: armv7l status?

2020-05-13 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 9:51 am, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: Those pages are needing some love and care as aarch64 should not be on it anymore. Currently the primary architectures that Fedora builds against are [smooge@batcave01 32]$ ls -l Workstation/ total 12 drwxr-xr-x. 3 263 263 4096

Re: armv7l status?

2020-05-13 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 09:15, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > Hi, > > Why are we still doing builds for armv7l in koji? > > I see that it is not represented on https://alt.fedoraproject.org/alt/ > so I presume we no longer support installing this architecture. Is it > really only used for multilib,

Re: armv7l status?

2020-05-13 Thread Peter Robinson
> > Also, multilib for aarch64 + armv7hl is not "A Thing" (TM), IIRC > > because no aarch64 hardware really supports that. > > > > There is hardware that does support it, but we pretend they don't > exist in Fedora. After all, the Raspberry Pi is an example of this. No, there's HW that will run

Re: armv7l status?

2020-05-13 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 9:20 AM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > Also, multilib for aarch64 + armv7hl is not "A Thing" (TM), IIRC > because no aarch64 hardware really supports that. > There is hardware that does support it, but we pretend they don't exist in Fedora. After all, the Raspberry Pi is an

Re: armv7l status?

2020-05-13 Thread Peter Robinson
> Why are we still doing builds for armv7l in koji? Because it's still a primary architecture and actively used and supported. > I see that it is not represented on https://alt.fedoraproject.org/alt/ > so I presume we no longer support installing this architecture. Is it > really only used for

Re: armv7l status?

2020-05-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
Looping in James Cameron - as recently as Jan 2020 he's made a release for armv7l http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2020-January/039079.html hth ~ martin On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 9:21 AM Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 9:14 AM Michael Catanzaro > wrote: > >> Why are we

Re: armv7l status?

2020-05-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 9:14 AM Michael Catanzaro wrote: > Why are we still doing builds for armv7l in koji? > Presumably for OLPC packages. That ARM build target is/was the right one for the ARM CPUs on those. I haven't been in the loop for a while, but until recently there was a group of

Re: armv7l status?

2020-05-13 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 3:14 PM Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > Hi, > > Why are we still doing builds for armv7l in koji? > > I see that it is not represented on https://alt.fedoraproject.org/alt/ > so I presume we no longer support installing this architecture. Is it > really only used for

armv7l status?

2020-05-13 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Hi, Why are we still doing builds for armv7l in koji? I see that it is not represented on https://alt.fedoraproject.org/alt/ so I presume we no longer support installing this architecture. Is it really only used for multilib, like the i686 packages? If so, is it really necessary? If we're