Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-04-08 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 11:49 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Rex Dieter wrote: >> And we've circled back to the original post starting this thread. >> >> Note: intent to *orphan*, not intent to *retire*. > > If it is not going to be retired, then why would we want to kill

Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-04-08 Thread Kevin Kofler
Peter Oliver wrote: > In any case, once we start removing Python 2 components, it seems to me > that the message to users is, "Python 2 can't be relied upon in this > release". That being the case, if we did go ahead with this staged > removal, would it be helpful to think of this change the

Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-04-08 Thread Rex Dieter
Kevin Kofler wrote: > Somebody needs to pick it up. > ... > I see no benefit from removing the python2 > package in such a rush. And we've circled back to the original post starting this thread. Note: intent to *orphan*, not intent to *retire*. -- Rex

Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-04-08 Thread Kevin Kofler
Rex Dieter wrote: > And we've circled back to the original post starting this thread. > > Note: intent to *orphan*, not intent to *retire*. If it is not going to be retired, then why would we want to kill python2-* subpackages throughout the distribution for no reason? Kevin Kofler

Re: Server SIG Weekly Meeting Minutes (2018-04-03)

2018-04-08 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 12:01 PM, Tomasz Torcz ️ wrote: > On Sun, Apr 08, 2018 at 10:05:12AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: >> >> > * Feedback: Easy "home media server" would be nice (sgallagh, >> > 20:08:36) >> >> TBH I think that's quite a divergence from a typical

Re: Server SIG Weekly Meeting Minutes (2018-04-03)

2018-04-08 Thread Tomasz Torcz ️
On Sun, Apr 08, 2018 at 12:08:23PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 12:01 PM, Tomasz Torcz ️ wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 08, 2018 at 10:05:12AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > >> > >> > * Feedback: Easy "home media server" would be nice (sgallagh, > >> >

Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-04-08 Thread Peter Oliver
On Sat, 7 Apr 2018, 19:17 Miro Hrončok, wrote: Strong reasons for the distribution were already discussed above, including: > > * we don't have the ability/mapower to remove everything at once > Won't it take more total effort to remove things piecemeal rather than all in

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20180408.n.0 changes

2018-04-08 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20180407.n.1 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20180408.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:1 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 0 Dropped packages:1 Upgraded packages: 15 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 0 B Size of dropped packages:9.25 MiB

Fw: fedmsg notification

2018-04-08 Thread Michael Schwendt
Please make such a message flood opt-in by default instead of opt-out. The communication about such new services and their purpose is extremely poor IMO. [...] Begin forwarded message: Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2018 23:42:01 + (UTC) From: notifications fedoraproject org Subject: fedmsg notification

Fw: greenwave is a GO on ampache_browser-1.0.0-3.20180408.fc27 for "bodhi_update_push_stable" (fedora-28)

2018-04-08 Thread Michael Schwendt
Please make such a message flood opt-in by default instead of opt-out. The communication about such new services and their purpose is extremely poor IMO. [...] Begin forwarded message: Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2018 23:59:31 + (UTC) From: notifications fedoraproject org Subject: greenwave is a GO

Re: Server SIG Weekly Meeting Minutes (2018-04-03)

2018-04-08 Thread Tomasz Torcz ️
On Sun, Apr 08, 2018 at 10:05:12AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > > > * Feedback: Easy "home media server" would be nice (sgallagh, > > 20:08:36) > > TBH I think that's quite a divergence from a typical "enterprise > server" that the Server SIG has targetted. But this is probably much

Re: greenwave is a GO on ampache_browser-1.0.0-3.20180408.fc27 for "bodhi_update_push_stable" (fedora-28)

2018-04-08 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 13:46:55 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > Please make such a message flood opt-in by default instead of opt-out. > The communication about such new services and their purpose is extremely > poor IMO. There is not even a contact address on the page! Only a cryptic table. No

Fedora-Atomic 27-20180408.0 compose check report

2018-04-08 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Passed openQA tests: 2/2 (x86_64) -- Mail generated by check-compose: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/check-compose ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: Upcoming gdouros-*-fonts license change and subsequent complications

2018-04-08 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sat, Apr 07, 2018 at 10:44:41PM +0200, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > Hello all, > > I doubt most of you know or care about George Douros' family of fonts, > as almost all of them are quite niche. However, there is one font in > particular, Symbola, that a number of users and packagers care

Re: Server SIG Weekly Meeting Minutes (2018-04-03)

2018-04-08 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 7:09 AM Peter Robinson wrote: > On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 12:01 PM, Tomasz Torcz ️ > wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 08, 2018 at 10:05:12AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > >> > >> > * Feedback: Easy "home media server" would be nice

Re: Upcoming gdouros-*-fonts license change and subsequent complications

2018-04-08 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
Hi Zbigniew, On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 10:11 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Sat, Apr 07, 2018 at 10:44:41PM +0200, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: >> - If it is indeed incompatible, would trying to convince him to adopt >> a dual license scheme be the best course of

Re: DNSSEC, DoH, dnscrypt-proxy 1 vs 2

2018-04-08 Thread mcatanzaro
There was also https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Default_Local_DNS_Resolver which was proposed for F22, but deferred twice and eventually dropped. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

DNSSEC, DoH, dnscrypt-proxy 1 vs 2

2018-04-08 Thread Chris Murphy
Hi, I've been doing some digging around to figure out how to enhance DNS security privacy, and it's really a rabbit hole. Fedora 28, not any different near as I can tell from Windows 10 or macOS 10.13 is simply deferring to DHCP assigned DNS which for my POS ISP is hardwired to their DNS servers

Re: DNSSEC, DoH, dnscrypt-proxy 1 vs 2

2018-04-08 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Sunday, 08 April 2018 at 23:52, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: > > There was also > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Default_Local_DNS_Resolver which was > proposed for F22, but deferred twice and eventually dropped. Guys, I've had this enabled since forever with unbound as the local

Re: Upcoming gdouros-*-fonts license change and subsequent complications

2018-04-08 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sun, Apr 08, 2018 at 02:55:49PM +0200, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > Hi Zbigniew, > > On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 10:11 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 07, 2018 at 10:44:41PM +0200, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > >> - If it is indeed incompatible, would

Fedora Rawhide-20180408.n.0 compose check report

2018-04-08 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 46/137 (x86_64), 6/23 (i386), 1/2 (arm) ID: 218668 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_default@uefi URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/218668 ID: 218697 Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso desktop_update_graphical URL:

Re: Upcoming gdouros-*-fonts license change and subsequent complications

2018-04-08 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 8:30 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Sun, Apr 08, 2018 at 02:55:49PM +0200, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: >> My concern is if he can retroactively apply the new license to the >> older versions of the fonts. Is this a valid concern or is it not

Re: DNSSEC, DoH, dnscrypt-proxy 1 vs 2

2018-04-08 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 4:07 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > On Sunday, 08 April 2018 at 23:52, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: >> >> There was also >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Default_Local_DNS_Resolver which was >> proposed for F22, but deferred

[Test-Announce] 2018-04-09 @ 15:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2018-04-08 Thread Adam Williamson
# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting # Date: 2018-04-09 # Time: 15:00 UTC (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto) # Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net Greetings testers! We didn't look at the pending release criteria proposals last week as several folks were on

Re: DNSSEC, DoH, dnscrypt-proxy 1 vs 2

2018-04-08 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Sun, Apr 08, 2018 at 04:41:34PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 3:52 PM, wrote: > > > > There was also > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Default_Local_DNS_Resolver which was > > proposed for F22, but deferred twice and eventually dropped. >

Re: Fedora28 / autofs

2018-04-08 Thread Ian Kent
On 07/04/18 05:58, Pierre-Francois RENARD wrote: > Hello guys, > > with F28 I tried to use autofs and nfs. > I had the following error “Too many levels of symbolic links” > I had to change SELinux mode to permissive to be able to make autofs usable > ... I had a report that appeared to be

Re: Fedora28 / autofs

2018-04-08 Thread Ian Kent
On 07/04/18 10:13, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > On 6 April 2018 at 22:58, Pierre-Francois RENARD wrote: >> Hello guys, >> >> with F28 I tried to use autofs and nfs. > > BTW autofs: is it any particular reason why in Fedora kernels autofs > support is compiled into the kernel and

Re: DNSSEC, DoH, dnscrypt-proxy 1 vs 2

2018-04-08 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Monday, 09 April 2018 at 00:52, Chris Murphy wrote: [...] > [chris@f28h ~]$ dnssec-trigger-control status > at 2018-04-08 16:46:45 > cache 75.75.76.76: OK > cache 75.75.75.75: OK > cache 2001:558:feed::1: OK > cache 2001:558:feed::2: OK > state: cache secure This looks good, similar to mine.

Re: Fedora28 / autofs

2018-04-08 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 6:25 PM, Ian Kent wrote: > On 07/04/18 10:13, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: >> $ cat /proc/filesystems | grep ext; echo; lsmod | grep ext >> ext3 >> ext2 >> ext4 > > Not sure about those but ext3 and ext4 are probably compiled in > because they are frequently

Re: DNSSEC, DoH, dnscrypt-proxy 1 vs 2

2018-04-08 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 3:52 PM, wrote: > > There was also > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Default_Local_DNS_Resolver which was > proposed for F22, but deferred twice and eventually dropped. I followed the multistep instructions there, and this also breaks

Re: DNSSEC, DoH, dnscrypt-proxy 1 vs 2

2018-04-08 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 4:59 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > On Monday, 09 April 2018 at 00:52, Chris Murphy wrote: > [...] >> [chris@f28h ~]$ dnssec-trigger-control status >> at 2018-04-08 16:46:45 >> cache 75.75.76.76: OK >> cache 75.75.75.75: OK >> cache

Re: Intent to orphan Python 2

2018-04-08 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "ZJ" == Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek writes: ZJ> Please don't. This is a repeat of the original idea of having ZJ> separate python3 packages back when python3 was being ZJ> introduced. It seems that you are suggesting that pointless bureaucracy be kept in place purely

[Test-Announce] 2018-04-09 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora 28 Blocker Review Meeting

2018-04-08 Thread Adam Williamson
# F28 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2018-04-09 # Time: 16:00 UTC # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net Hi folks! We have 6 proposed blockers and 2 proposed freeze exception issues for Final to review, so let's have a review meeting on Monday. If you have time today, you can

Re: DNSSEC, DoH, dnscrypt-proxy 1 vs 2

2018-04-08 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Monday, 09 April 2018 at 00:33, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 4:25 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 4:07 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski > > wrote: > >> On Sunday, 08 April 2018 at 23:52, mcatanz...@gnome.org

Re: DNSSEC, DoH, dnscrypt-proxy 1 vs 2

2018-04-08 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 4:25 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 4:07 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski > wrote: >> On Sunday, 08 April 2018 at 23:52, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: >>> >>> There was also >>>

Re: DNSSEC, DoH, dnscrypt-proxy 1 vs 2

2018-04-08 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 4:38 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > On Monday, 09 April 2018 at 00:33, Chris Murphy wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 4:25 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> > On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 4:07 PM, Dominik 'Rathann'

[Bug 1560182] Concurrent Gtk2::Unique execution causes shutter to crash

2018-04-08 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1560182 --- Comment #6 from 40898...@opayq.com --- Yes, this fixes indeed the issue. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ perl-devel mailing list --

[Bug 1563208] perl-IO-Async-0.72 is available

2018-04-08 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1563208 --- Comment #1 from Emmanuel Seyman --- This fails to build against rawhide. I'm seeing errors like the following: http://www.cpantesters.org/cpan/report/9f4359d6-38b1-11e8-9a96-3b1e7347484a -- You are receiving this

[Bug 1563222] perl-Mojolicious-7.74 is available

2018-04-08 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1563222 Emmanuel Seyman changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |CLOSED Fixed

[Bug 1564929] New: perl-IO-Compress-2.081 is available

2018-04-08 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1564929 Bug ID: 1564929 Summary: perl-IO-Compress-2.081 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-IO-Compress Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged Assignee:

[Bug 1564927] New: perl-Compress-Raw-Bzip2-2.081 is available

2018-04-08 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1564927 Bug ID: 1564927 Summary: perl-Compress-Raw-Bzip2-2.081 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-Compress-Raw-Bzip2 Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged

[Bug 1564928] New: perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib-2.081 is available

2018-04-08 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1564928 Bug ID: 1564928 Summary: perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib-2.081 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged

[Bug 1564935] New: perl-version-0.9920 is available

2018-04-08 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1564935 Bug ID: 1564935 Summary: perl-version-0.9920 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-version Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged Assignee: