Re: Does anyone/thing care about the kernel inside the boot.iso rootfs?

2020-03-30 Thread Brian C. Lane
On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 03:02:24PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 09:34:24AM -0700, Brian C. Lane wrote: > > We've noticed that there is a kernel inside the install.img of the > > boot.iso -- it isn't used for booting, and as far as I can tell it's > > just taking up extra

Re: Release rpkg-1.60

2020-03-30 Thread Ondrej Nosek
yes, I missed correcting the supported list. On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:56 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 30. 03. 20 12:21, Ondrej Nosek wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > a new version rpkg-1.60 is released containing both features and > bugfixes. > > Currently, Fedora 32 and rawhide packages are in the

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 5:56 AM Leigh Griffin wrote: > > We haven't ironed out the full details but what was incredibly clear to us > was that Gitlab was the decision to make. The next step in getting there is > what we are engaging in now to get thoughts and suggestions and expect > several

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 30. 03. 20 5:47, Neal Gompa wrote: On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 4:12 PM Aoife Moloney wrote: ### Other Updates GitForge Decision * After evaluating over 300 user stories from multiple stakeholders we have aligned on a decision for the Gitforge that CPE will operate for the coming years. We

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

2020-03-30 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 27. 03. 20 16:07, Stephen Gallagher wrote: Please see the newly-updated https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ELN_Buildroot_and_Compose Setup automation to trigger new ELN build every time there is a new update submitted to Fedora Rawhide. Put all the other feedback aside, if we

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 30. 03. 20 11:17, Leigh Griffin wrote: Hi everyone, Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an incredible number of requirements from multiple stakeholder sources. On Friday evening we announced on the Community Blog

Re: Upgrade tooling

2020-03-30 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 3/28/20 8:59 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 10:34:49AM +0200, Panu Matilainen wrote: On 3/27/20 9:55 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 09:04:53AM +0200, Panu Matilainen wrote: On 3/26/20 2:35 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek

Re: unresponsive maintainer: itamarjp

2020-03-30 Thread François Cami
Hi, On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 10:50 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > > Hi, François. > > On Sunday, 29 March 2020 at 14:59, François Cami wrote: > > Hi Itamar, > > > > I am starting the unresponsive maintainer process [0], because > > packages you maintain or co-maintain are FTBFS [1]. >

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Iñaki Ucar
On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 09:15, Julen Landa Alustiza wrote: > > 20/3/30 08:40(e)an, James Cassell igorleak idatzi zuen: > > > > On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, at 11:47 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > >> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 4:12 PM Aoife Moloney wrote: > >>> > >>> ### Other Updates > >>> > >>> GitForge

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Julen Landa Alustiza
20/3/30 11:27(e)an, Iñaki Ucar igorleak idatzi zuen: > On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 09:15, Julen Landa Alustiza > wrote: >> >> 20/3/30 08:40(e)an, James Cassell igorleak idatzi zuen: >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, at 11:47 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 4:12 PM Aoife Moloney

Release rpkg-1.60

2020-03-30 Thread Ondrej Nosek
Hi all, a new version rpkg-1.60 is released containing both features and bugfixes. Currently, Fedora 32 and rawhide packages are in the stable repository, feel free to try other waiting distributions in Bodhi. Changelog (web documentation): https://docs.pagure.org/rpkg/releases/1.60.html

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Iñaki Ucar
On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 12:15, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:55 AM Iñaki Ucar wrote: >> >> Hi Leigh, >> >> On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 11:30, Leigh Griffin wrote: >> > >> > Hi everyone, >> > >> > Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an >> > incredible

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

2020-03-30 Thread Aleksandra Fedorova
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:11 AM Vít Ondruch wrote: > > It is kind of irony, that the ELN branch idea is still rejected. I've made several attempts to explain this decision. You are ignoring them. > Therefore there will be PRs coming from Stephen's and Alexandra's (or > anybody else in ELN SIG)

Re: Release rpkg-1.60

2020-03-30 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 30. 03. 20 12:21, Ondrej Nosek wrote: Hi all, a new version rpkg-1.60 is released containing both features and bugfixes. Currently, Fedora 32 and rawhide packages are in the stable repository, feel free to try other waiting distributions in Bodhi. Changelog (web documentation):

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

2020-03-30 Thread Vít Ondruch
It is kind of irony, that the ELN branch idea is still rejected. Therefore there will be PRs coming from Stephen's and Alexandra's (or anybody else in ELN SIG) forks of packages, containing changes needed to build some packages in ELN, which nobody is going to merge. In the meantime, the ELN

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Guido Aulisi
Il giorno lun 30 mar 2020 alle 11:21 Leigh Griffin ha scritto: > Hi everyone, > > Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an > incredible number of requirements from multiple stakeholder sources. On > Friday evening we announced on the Community Blog >

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 4:48 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 4:12 PM Aoife Moloney wrote: > > > > ### Other Updates > > > > GitForge Decision > > * After evaluating over 300 user stories from multiple stakeholders we > > have aligned on a decision for the Gitforge that CPE

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-30 Thread Daniel Smith
You will likely need to reset any mutations you have performed $ rpm-ostree reset ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:

CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Leigh Griffin
Hi everyone, Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an incredible number of requirements from multiple stakeholder sources. On Friday evening we announced on the Community Blog our decision to adopt

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Iñaki Ucar
Hi Leigh, On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 11:30, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an incredible > number of requirements from multiple stakeholder sources. On Friday evening > we announced on the Community Blog our decision to adopt

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:55 AM Iñaki Ucar wrote: > Hi Leigh, > > On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 11:30, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an > incredible number of requirements from multiple stakeholder sources. On > Friday

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:17:21AM +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an incredible > number of requirements from multiple stakeholder sources. On Friday evening > we announced on the Community Blog >

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Julen Landa Alustiza
20/3/30 12:04(e)an, Leigh Griffin igorleak idatzi zuen: > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:55 AM Iñaki Ucar > wrote: > > Hi Leigh, > > On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 11:30, Leigh Griffin > wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, >

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 8:08 AM Julen Landa Alustiza < jla...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > > 20/3/30 08:40(e)an, James Cassell igorleak idatzi zuen: > > > > On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, at 11:47 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > >> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 4:12 PM Aoife Moloney > wrote: > >>> > >>> ### Other

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-30 Thread Daniel Smith
> If the source code isn't being modified and no one wants to look after > it(which is 100% fine, not everything does, really), then why not just > ship it as-is from upstream? There is no "upstream" Nvidia packages for F32 (or even F31). The nvidia drivers need to be packaged for Fedora. If

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Sqlite RpmDB

2020-03-30 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 3/28/20 2:01 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: So, my concern here is timeline vs the upcoming datacenter move. ;( Do you have any ideas when rpm 4.16 will be released? I don't see any dates on the change. Or perhaps I guess the question is when it will land in rawhide? RPM 4.16 alpha was released

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-30 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 30.03.2020 10:45, Daniel Smith wrote: > The nvidia drivers need to be packaged for Fedora. This is absolutely impossible. No proprietary software are allowed. -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org) ___ devel mailing list --

Fedora-Cloud-31-20200330.0 compose check report

2020-03-30 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Passed openQA tests: 1/1 (x86_64) -- Mail generated by check-compose: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/check-compose ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread James Cassell
On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, at 11:47 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 4:12 PM Aoife Moloney wrote: > > > > ### Other Updates > > > > GitForge Decision > > * After evaluating over 300 user stories from multiple stakeholders we > > have aligned on a decision for the Gitforge that CPE

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Julen Landa Alustiza
20/3/30 08:40(e)an, James Cassell igorleak idatzi zuen: > > On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, at 11:47 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: >> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 4:12 PM Aoife Moloney wrote: >>> >>> ### Other Updates >>> >>> GitForge Decision >>> * After evaluating over 300 user stories from multiple

Fedora-Cloud-30-20200330.0 compose check report

2020-03-30 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Passed openQA tests: 1/1 (x86_64) -- Mail generated by check-compose: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/check-compose ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

2020-03-30 Thread Petr Pisar
On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 12:56:42AM +0100, clime wrote: > You can make a separate namespace for this in dist-git. It doesn't need to > be a separate branch. That way, you won't be disturbing anyone elses space. > A different name space means a different repository. That means a full copy. A waste

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-30 Thread Marius Schwarz
Am 29.03.20 um 18:24 schrieb Kevin Kofler: > > RPM Fusion used to provide compiled kmod packages for years, and those just > worked. (Well, for the proprietary ones, they only worked as well as > proprietary drivers work to begin with, but that was no fault of the kmod > packages.) So why and

libcdio soname bump in rawhide

2020-03-30 Thread Adrian Reber
I will update libcdio to 2.1.0 next week in rawhide. As always, libcdio comes with a new SO version. The following packages have to be rebuilt and I will do the necessary rebuilds: cantata cdw clementine gstreamer1-plugins-ugly-free gvfs kover libcddb libcdio-0:2.0.0-6.fc32.src libcdio-paranoia

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:29 AM Iñaki Ucar wrote: > On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 09:15, Julen Landa Alustiza > wrote: > > > > 20/3/30 08:40(e)an, James Cassell igorleak idatzi zuen: > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, at 11:47 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > > >> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 4:12 PM Aoife Moloney

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Iñaki Ucar
On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 13:10, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:29 AM Iñaki Ucar wrote: >> >> So I was also waiting for those open discussions about the >> requirements gathered. > > We had several threads on them from the Fedora perspective on both devel and > council lists.

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:31 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:27 AM Iñaki Ucar > wrote: > > > > On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 13:20, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:02 AM Leigh Griffin > wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > >> I was really looking forward to reading

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

2020-03-30 Thread Petr Pisar
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:10:17AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > It is kind of irony, that the ELN branch idea is still rejected. > Therefore there will be PRs coming from Stephen's and Alexandra's (or > anybody else in ELN SIG) forks of packages, containing changes needed to > build some packages

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

2020-03-30 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 30. 03. 20 13:52, Petr Pisar wrote: If I undeestand the proposal correctly there there will be an ELN branch or a name space. But not by default. Only for those packages that reject the change in Fedora. I wonder where is this coming from, because that's exactly what we want and exactly

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:56 AM Leigh Griffin wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:31 AM Julen Landa Alustiza > wrote: >> >> Sincelery, after reading the initial announcement, I was expecting a >> more visible and open to the community discussion scenario. >> > >> > For transparency, we have

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

2020-03-30 Thread Tomas Orsava
On 3/30/20 12:54 PM, Aleksandra Fedorova wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:11 AM Vít Ondruch wrote: It is kind of irony, that the ELN branch idea is still rejected. I've made several attempts to explain this decision. You are ignoring them. Therefore there will be PRs coming from Stephen's

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 30. 03. 20 14:13, Neal Gompa wrote: And unlike Alioth, we have*serious* integration across the board with Pagure, and a good chunk of it is not possible to implement in GitLab. Features we have in here were designed to meet the needs of Fedorans that we will be forced to give up. I want to

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

2020-03-30 Thread Tomas Orsava
On 3/30/20 2:33 PM, Petr Pisar wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 01:57:22PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 30. 03. 20 13:52, Petr Pisar wrote: If I undeestand the proposal correctly there there will be an ELN branch or a name space. But not by default. Only for those packages that reject the

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:31 AM Julen Landa Alustiza < jla...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > > 20/3/30 12:04(e)an, Leigh Griffin igorleak idatzi zuen: > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:55 AM Iñaki Ucar > > wrote: > > > > Hi Leigh, > > > > On Mon, 30

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Nicolas Mailhot via devel
Le dimanche 29 mars 2020 à 23:47 -0400, Neal Gompa a écrit : > > > As a General User > > I want to access repos fully over https > > For environments where SSH is blocked > > I would be really curious if the Red Hat Infrastructure Security guys > have changed their opinion on this after four

Re: Fedora 32 Build failures on non-x86 arch - tlog

2020-03-30 Thread Dan Horák
On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 09:16:46 -0400 Justin Stephenson wrote: > Hello, > > I received an email notification that some builds of the 'tlog' > package are failing on aarch64 and ppc64le, with a link provided > below: > > https://koschei.fedoraproject.org/package/tlog?collection=f32 > > However,

Schedule for Mondays's FESCo Meeting (2020-03-30)

2020-03-30 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Monday at 15:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2020-03-30 15:00 UTC' NOTE: DAYLIGHT SAVINGS

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 1:15 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:56 AM Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:31 AM Julen Landa Alustiza < > jla...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > >> > >> Sincelery, after reading the initial announcement, I was expecting a > >> more

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Till Maas
Hi, On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 01:59:07PM +, Leigh Griffin wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:18 PM Till Maas wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:04:03AM +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > > For transparency, we have published the full User Story list which is > > > linked

[EPEL-devel] Re: RHEL8 package list

2020-03-30 Thread Troy Dawson
On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 10:52 AM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 06:11:28PM +0200, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski > wrote: > > On Sunday, 29 March 2020 at 15:59, Mattia Verga wrote: > > > Is there a way to get the package list and their version available in > > > RHEL8? For

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:01 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 30. 03. 20 14:13, Neal Gompa wrote: > > And unlike Alioth, we have*serious* > > integration across the board with Pagure, and a good chunk of it is > > not possible to implement in GitLab. Features we have in here were > > designed to meet

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:18 PM Till Maas wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:04:03AM +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > For transparency, we have published the full User Story list which is > > linked within the blog and for ease of searching is here: > >

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 4:00 PM Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:01 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: >> >> On 30. 03. 20 14:13, Neal Gompa wrote: >> > And unlike Alioth, we have*serious* >> > integration across the board with Pagure, and a good chunk of it is >> > not possible to

Re: Upgrade tooling

2020-03-30 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 3/30/20 3:00 PM, Nicolas Mailhot via devel wrote: On 3/28/20 8:59 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: Yes, that is an important hurdle that Fedora generally doesn't encounter at all. Fedora usually waits until the new rpm functionality is released in older versions of Fedora before

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 3:07 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 4:00 PM Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:01 PM Miro Hrončok > wrote: > >> > >> On 30. 03. 20 14:13, Neal Gompa wrote: > >> > And unlike Alioth, we have*serious* > >> > integration

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 1:13 PM Julen Landa Alustiza < jla...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > > 20/3/30 13:43(e)an, Leigh Griffin igorleak idatzi zuen: > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:24 PM Iñaki Ucar > > wrote: > > > > On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 13:10, Leigh

Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Introduce module Obsoletes and EOL

2020-03-30 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Module_Obsoletes_and_EOL == Summary == Fix Fedora upgradability issues when upgrading systems with module streams enabled. == Owner == * Name: [[User:dmach| Daniel Mach]] * Email: dm...@redhat.com == Detailed Description == DNF currently doesn't have

Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Mark libdb as deprecated

2020-03-30 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Libdb_deprecated == Summary == This change should inform maintainers and developers about effort to remove libdb in future. == Owner == * Name: [[User:fjanus|Filip Januš]] * Email: fja...@redhat.com == Detailed Description == We would like to remove libdb

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Matthias Runge
On 30/03/2020 16:23, Till Maas wrote: For transparency, we have published the full User Story list which is linked within the blog and for ease of searching is here: https://hackmd.io/@My419-DISUGgo4gcmO1D6A/HJB74lcL8 >

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 3:26 PM Till Maas wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 01:59:07PM +, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:18 PM Till Maas wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:04:03AM +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > > > > For transparency,

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 3:36 PM Matthias Runge wrote: > On 30/03/2020 16:23, Till Maas wrote: > > For transparency, we have published the full User Story list which is > linked within the blog and for ease of searching is here: > https://hackmd.io/@My419-DISUGgo4gcmO1D6A/HJB74lcL8

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Introduce module Obsoletes and EOL

2020-03-30 Thread Petr Pisar
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:30:51AM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Module_Obsoletes_and_EOL [...] > *** When a module stream gets removed from a Fedora release, the > maintainer of the module stream must provide a modulemd document with > Obsoletes or EOL data. >

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system JDK in F33

2020-03-30 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 30. 03. 20 16:04, Ben Cotton wrote: === Other === * Proposal owners: ** based on above, adapt jdk8 and jdk11 package provides ** If necessary tune the build environment * Other developers: ** based on selected approach to tune the main build tools *** at least jpackage-tools and maven will

Re: Schedule for Mondays's FESCo Meeting (2020-03-30)

2020-03-30 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 01:32:54PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the > FESCo meeting Monday at 15:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on > irc.freenode.net. > > To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at >

Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system JDK in F33

2020-03-30 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Java11 . == Summary == Update the system JDK in Fedora from java-1.8.0-openjdk to java-11-openjdk. == Owner == * Name: [[User:jvanek| Jiri Vanek]] * Email: * Product: java and java stack * Responsible WG: java-sig (java and java-maint) == Detailed

Re: multiple definitions build failure on armv7hl only

2020-03-30 Thread Dan Horák
On Thu, 5 Mar 2020 20:38:07 -0700 Orion Poplawski wrote: > On 3/4/20 10:09 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: > > Test building the latest gdl, I get the following errors only on > > armv7hl: > > > > /usr/bin/ld: CMakeFiles/gdl.dir/basic_op.cpp.o:(.rodata+0x30): > > multiple definition of `typeinfo

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system JDK in F33

2020-03-30 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 30. 03. 20 16:04, Ben Cotton wrote: * Contingency mechanism: Return jdk8 as system jdk and mass rebuild again. Note, that this may be very hard, because during build of packages by jdk8, by jdk11 built dependencies will be picekd up, so build will fail. Maybe several iterations of mass

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Pavel Raiskup
On Monday, March 30, 2020 11:17:21 AM CEST Leigh Griffin wrote: > Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an incredible > number of requirements from multiple stakeholder sources. On Friday evening > we announced on the Community Blog >

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-03-30)

2020-03-30 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Meeting summary --- * #2358 Drop the restriction on tagging for fedora-release (zbyszek, 15:02:45) * AGREED: drop fedora-release and fedora-repos from the secure-boot channel (+7, 0, 0) (zbyszek, 15:11:41) * #2360 RPM 4.16 and sqlite db changes for Fedora 33 (zbyszek,

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system JDK in F33

2020-03-30 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 30. 03. 20 17:47, Jiri Vanek wrote: On 3/30/20 5:04 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 30. 03. 20 16:04, Ben Cotton wrote: * Contingency mechanism: Return jdk8 as system jdk and mass rebuild again. Note, that this may be very hard, because during build of packages by jdk8, by jdk11 built

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Matthias Runge
On 30/03/2020 17:41, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > The only problem of GitLab is that Fedora - for years - was not able to > package it. I'm not a able to judge where the packaging problem is/was, > any more info? Are we going invest into packaging it? > > Please make us 100% confident we are not

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Sqlite RpmDB

2020-03-30 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:41:08PM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: ...snip... > > No such things needed at this time. The database change is a separate change > and does NOT come bundled with RPM 4.16, we'll only even consider switching > that once 4.16 has had a proper shakedown. ok, great. > >

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

2020-03-30 Thread Robbie Harwood
Petr Pisar writes: > On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 12:56:42AM +0100, clime wrote: > >> You can make a separate namespace for this in dist-git. It doesn't >> need to be a separate branch. That way, you won't be disturbing >> anyone elses space. > > A different name space means a different repository.

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Introduce module Obsoletes and EOL

2020-03-30 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:30:51AM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > > document: TBD > version: 1 > data: > # A string representing UTC date in ISO 8601 format: -MM-DD[T ]HH:MMZ > # When merging, entries with a newer 'modified' value will override > any earlier values. > # MANDATORY >

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system JDK in F33

2020-03-30 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Jiri Vanek" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > , "Miro Hrončok" > , "Deepak Bhole" , "Severin Gehwolf" > , "Omair Majid" > > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 11:38:34 AM > Subject: Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system JDK in F33

2020-03-30 Thread Jiri Vanek
On 3/30/20 5:04 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 30. 03. 20 16:04, Ben Cotton wrote: >> * Contingency mechanism: Return jdk8 as system jdk and mass rebuild >> again. Note, that this may be very hard, because during build of >> packages by jdk8, by jdk11 built dependencies will be picekd up, so >>

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread David Kaufmann
Hi, On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:38:16PM +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > The decision is made and we are proceeding to engage with Gitlab and > unfortunately that won't be reversed as a decision. I haven't expected this situation, so I've read up a bit on the whole thing. From the outside it looks

Re: Coronavirus: Fedora RTC solutions and YOU

2020-03-30 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno sab, 28/03/2020 alle 15.13 +, Sérgio Basto ha scritto: > I will try packaging all Jitsi Meet suite [1] Cool!, if you want a beta tester on Fedora, let me know. Thanks -- Dario Lesca (inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 31 Workstation) ___

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 5:06 PM David Kaufmann wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:38:16PM +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > The decision is made and we are proceeding to engage with Gitlab and > > unfortunately that won't be reversed as a decision. > > I haven't expected this situation,

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system JDK in F33

2020-03-30 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Andrew Haley" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > , "Alex Scheel" > Cc: "Omair Majid" > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 12:36:23 PM > Subject: Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system > JDK in F33 > > On 3/30/20

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system JDK in F33

2020-03-30 Thread Andrew Haley
On 3/30/20 4:47 PM, Alex Scheel wrote: > For one example here, take the long-standing Debian ticket against Dogtag: > > https://www.pagure.io/dogtagpki/issue/3088 > > OpenJDK 11 moved to TLS v1.3, but didn't fully implement the spec: PHA isn't > available. This is a requirement for our

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

2020-03-30 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 01:13:03PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > I'm afraid that this won't be good enough. Other (Fedora) builds will be > submitted with lower prio as well. For example our Python 3.N+1 rebuilds are > usually submitted as such, so the wave of 3k packages doesn't block >

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Sqlite RpmDB

2020-03-30 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:46 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:41:08PM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > If it was up to us only, I recon we'd be looking to switch over to sqlite > > somewhere between 2-4 weeks from the time 4.16 lands in rawhide but our > > schedule is

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system JDK in F33

2020-03-30 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 4:05 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Java11 . > > == Summary == > Update the system JDK in Fedora from java-1.8.0-openjdk to java-11-openjdk. > > == Owner == > * Name: [[User:jvanek| Jiri Vanek]] > * Email: > * Product: java and java stack

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system JDK in F33

2020-03-30 Thread Jiri Vanek
On 3/30/20 5:11 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 30. 03. 20 16:04, Ben Cotton wrote: >> === Other === >> * Proposal owners: >> ** based on above, adapt jdk8 and jdk11 package provides >> ** If necessary tune the build environment >> >> * Other developers: >> ** based on selected approach to tune the

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system JDK in F33

2020-03-30 Thread Jiri Vanek
On 3/30/20 5:26 PM, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 4:05 PM Ben Cotton wrote: >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Java11 . >> >> == Summary == >> Update the system JDK in Fedora from java-1.8.0-openjdk to java-11-openjdk. >> >> == Owner == >> * Name: [[User:jvanek| Jiri

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread clime
I thought CPE ("Community Platform Engineering") is a part of the community. But no, because you want to hand over pagure.io to "the Community", so what community is that...People that don't have hardware? It seems that the whole proposal is trying to make src.fp.o and git.centos.org part of a

Re: Coronavirus: Fedora RTC solutions and YOU

2020-03-30 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
On Mon, 2020-03-30 at 14:09 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > Sérgio Basto wrote: > > Before jumping into jitsi, I think you should see what I got when I > tried it > using the web app. > > Why does it want access to my youtube?? I've used Jitsi without an account at all for over a year (at least

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2020-03-30 Thread Andrew Bauer
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Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Bruno Wolff III" > To: "Leigh Griffin" > Cc: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 2:08:21 PM > Subject: Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28) > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 17:20:04 +0100, > Leigh

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-03-30 Thread Simo Sorce
On Mon, 2020-03-30 at 17:41 +0200, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > On Monday, March 30, 2020 11:17:21 AM CEST Leigh Griffin wrote: > > Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an incredible > > number of requirements from multiple stakeholder sources. On Friday evening > > we announced

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Martin Kolman
- Original Message - > From: "Alex Scheel" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Cc: "Leigh Griffin" > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 8:42:33 PM > Subject: Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28) > > - Original Message - > > From: "Bruno Wolff

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 30. 03. 20 17:55, David Kaufmann wrote: What I don't understand is, why a decision this big is not taken by FESCo (or Council) and the CentOS Governing Board itself. FESCo cannot actually make anyone do anything. So even if FESCo says: "The dist-git will run on Pagure", CPE can say:

Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2020-03-30 Thread Miro Hrončok
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2020-03-30 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Miro Hrončok [30/03/2020 20:24] : > > perl-Data-Validate-Domain orphan 1 weeks ago I've maintained this package for years now. Why is it considered it orphaned? Emmanuel ___ devel mailing list --

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

2020-03-30 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 3:26 PM Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 14:42:33 -0400, > Alex Scheel wrote: > > > >Have you tried to use Pagure as a development based git forge? And not > >just as a dist-git hosting location? It needs a lot of help! More than the > >current

kinit: Password incorrect while getting initial credentials

2020-03-30 Thread Paul Dufresne via devel
I am trying to follow instructions at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collection_maintainers But when I do: [paul@localhost ~]$ kinit pa...@fedoraproject.org I get: Password for pa...@fedoraproject.org: kinit: Password incorrect while getting initial credentials [paul@localhost

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

2020-03-30 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 27. 03. 20 16:07, Stephen Gallagher wrote: Please see the newly-updated https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ELN_Buildroot_and_Compose for more details[1]. Assume I have the following CI Test in Fedora: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-setuptools/blob/master/f/tests/tests.yml

Re: Compilation Error on F32

2020-03-30 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:34:15AM -0600, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: > I have a project that isn't part of Fedora yet - though really I > should add it at this point. Its php-cpp. It allows me to write c++ > extensions for PHP. Its worked well for a couple years. I upgraded to > F32 beta and now

Re: Compilation Error on F32

2020-03-30 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 07:50:48PM +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:34:15AM -0600, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: > > I have a project that isn't part of Fedora yet - though really I > > should add it at this point. Its php-cpp. It allows me to write c++ > > extensions for

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