Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V3

2020-04-06 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 9:43 AM Charalampos Stratakis wrote: > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Michael Catanzaro" > > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > > > Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 3:37:34 PM > > Subject: Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-06 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 06. 04. 20 v 14:34 Josh Boyer napsal(a): > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 8:26 AM Stasiek Michalski wrote: >>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 12:10 pm, Adam Williamson >>> >> >>> $100/month per user for Ultimate (the only offering that meets the >>> "requirements")... 2339 packages in FAS... so $233900 * 12

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

2020-04-06 Thread Randy Barlow
On 4/6/20 6:41 AM, Leigh Griffin wrote: We are engaged with the Fedora Council on the next steps here for the adoption of Gitlab / the retirement of Pagure from the CPE remit. That much of the decision has been made, the actual specifics are what we are engaging on to make sure that the Fedora

Re: Urgently downgrade xorg-x11-drv-intel

2020-04-06 Thread Paul Dufresne via devel
Le 20-04-06 à 10 h 04, Tomasz Torcz a écrit : On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 09:27:58AM -0400, Alexei Podtelezhnikov wrote: Are they? We stopped using intel driver around F26, we use modesetting for Intel GPUs now. The above is clearly non-default configuratiob. I am far from an expert on the

Re: Urgently downgrade xorg-x11-drv-intel

2020-04-06 Thread Alexei Podtelezhnikov
On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 10:20 AM Peter Robinson wrote: > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1820815 > > > > > Are they? We stopped using intel driver around F26, we use > > modesetting for Intel GPUs now. The above is clearly non-default > > configuratiob. > > I thought that was

Need help with getting packager permissions to bugzilla account

2020-04-06 Thread Markku Korkeala
Hi, I was sponsored to the packager group last year (FAS account korkeala), that time I had an old bugzilla account which I used. Now that I tried to do my first review, but it seems that I did not have privileges to assign the review request to myself. I check that I did not have any bugzilla

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-06 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 2:36 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski < domi...@greysector.net> wrote: > On Monday, 06 April 2020 at 12:29, Leigh Griffin wrote: > [...] > > > Yes, this whole "decision" is in dictatorship relation to the > > > community. > > > > > > Not following the standard procedures

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

2020-04-06 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 12:11 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski < domi...@greysector.net> wrote: > On Monday, 06 April 2020 at 12:41, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 9:36 PM Randy Barlow < > bowlofe...@fedoraproject.org> > > wrote: > > > > > On 4/4/20 3:02 PM, Aoife Moloney wrote:

Self Introduction: Ondřej Gajdušek

2020-04-06 Thread Ondrej Gajdusek
Hello, My name is Ondrej Gajdusek. I currently work as a QE in Red Hat where I work mainly with Foreman and Katello projects which are upstream projects for the RH Satellite. I have some Python background so you can expect my contributions mainly in the Python field. I look forward to

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-06 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 4:25 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2020-04-06 at 15:35 +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > > Does it mean you didn't consider dist-git<->zuul integration vs. Gitlab > > > CI? I.e. technical differences and advantages of each? If you did, can > you, > > > please,

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

2020-04-06 Thread Nicolas Mailhot via devel
Le lundi 06 avril 2020 à 11:42 -0400, Alex Scheel a écrit : > > I'm not sure why what happens outside Fedora infra has anything to do > with the dist-git discussion. Are you suggesting that all > contributors > to all Fedora upstream should weigh in on this discussion as well? I > mean, that'd be

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-06 Thread clime
On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 at 17:05, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 2:36 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski < > domi...@greysector.net> wrote: > >> On Monday, 06 April 2020 at 12:29, Leigh Griffin wrote: >> [...] >> > > Yes, this whole "decision" is in dictatorship relation to the >> >

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-06 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 11:56 AM clime wrote: > > > On Monday, 6 April 2020, Leigh Griffin wrote: > >> >> >> >>> >>> >>> Yes, this whole "decision" is in dictatorship relation to the community. >>> >>> Not following the standard procedures caused that I and probably many >>> people in the

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-06 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 11:59 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 06. 04. 20 12:13, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > You certainly didn't engage with the community. > > > > > > We did. > > Not enough. You did initially but than you've stopped. You repeating "we > have > made a decision" in various

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

2020-04-06 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 09:35:58AM -0400, Alex Scheel wrote: > - Original Message - > > From: "Nicolas Mailhot via devel" > > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > > > Cc: "Nicolas Mailhot" > > Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 9:10:56 AM > > Subject: Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-06 Thread Randy Barlow
On 4/6/20 11:17 AM, Leigh Griffin wrote: It's a form of engagement among others that we are partaking in day in day out, week in week out. Ironically, you have illustrated my point here with your response, which isn't engagement. I have answered every question directly, if I missed one in

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

2020-04-06 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Nicolas Mailhot via devel" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Cc: "Nicolas Mailhot" > Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 10:57:40 AM > Subject: Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04 > > Le lundi 06 avril 2020 à 10:09 -0400, Alex Scheel a écrit : > > > >

Re: Fedora 32 FTBFS packages to be orphaned in 1 week

2020-04-06 Thread Vascom
I would like to take arduino. I can make buildable again 1.8.5 version and may be update it to latest. My FAS name: vascom -- Best regards, Vasiliy Glazov ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-04-06)

2020-04-06 Thread Petr Šabata
= #fedora-meeting-1: FESCO (2020-04-06) = Meeting started by contyk at 15:00:22 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2020-04-06/fesco.2020-04-06-15.00.log.html Meeting

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-06 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 10:15 AM Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > Dne 06. 04. 20 v 14:34 Josh Boyer napsal(a): > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 8:26 AM Stasiek Michalski > > wrote: > >>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 12:10 pm, Adam Williamson > >>> >>> > >>> $100/month per user for Ultimate (the only offering that

Re: Urgently downgrade xorg-x11-drv-intel

2020-04-06 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 10:40:59AM -0400, Paul Dufresne via devel wrote: > Le 20-04-06 à 10 h 04, Tomasz Torcz a écrit : > > On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 09:27:58AM -0400, Alexei Podtelezhnikov wrote: > >Are they? We stopped using intel driver around F26, we use > > modesetting for Intel GPUs now.

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2020-04-06 at 15:35 +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > Does it mean you didn't consider dist-git<->zuul integration vs. Gitlab > > CI? I.e. technical differences and advantages of each? If you did, can you, > > please, publish it? It would be valuable info for the community and > >

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

2020-04-06 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Cc: "Nicolas Mailhot" > Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 11:02:52 AM > Subject: Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04 > > Watching the discussion in the other big thread, I feel it has become >

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20200406.n.0 changes

2020-04-06 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20200405.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20200406.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 3 Added packages: 3 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 57 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 6.00 MiB Size of dropped packages:0 B

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Introduce module Obsoletes and EOL

2020-04-06 Thread James Cassell
On Mon, Apr 6, 2020, at 12:05 PM, Petr Pisar wrote: > On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 03:02:02PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 12:13:16PM +0200, Daniel Mach wrote: [snip] > > > Setting eol_date to the future allows informing a user about > > > upcoming obsoleting

Re: PSA: please do not BuildRequires: qt5-devel

2020-04-06 Thread Rex Dieter
Iñaki Ucar wrote: > On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 at 18:08, Rex Dieter wrote: >> >> The qt5, qt5-devel metapackages were introduced a few releases ago as >> merely a convenience for end-users, not intended to be used in official >> fedora packages, but seems these have seen some non-trivial adoption >>

Re: Urgently downgrade xorg-x11-drv-intel

2020-04-06 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 09:27:58AM -0400, Alexei Podtelezhnikov wrote: > Hi All, > > Please urgently downgrade xorg-x11-drv-intel before shipping Fedora 32 and > spare users some pain. At least two very recent crash/segfault reports are > fixed by downgrading to the fc31 version of

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

2020-04-06 Thread Randy Barlow
On 4/6/20 8:28 AM, Miro Hrončok wrote: I think it's hard to see who's vocal against GitLab and who just wants a truly open decision process for this. I've heard people who would love to get GitLab, but who are genuinely sad about how CPE management handled this. This. I personally actually

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-06 Thread Randy Barlow
On 4/6/20 10:36 AM, Leigh Griffin wrote: Answering 100+ replies individually is engaging with the community. Happy to stop that if people aren't seeing the benefit of it though. Writing 100 e-mails isn't automatically "engagement". I could reply to what you wrote above with "If I had a world

Re: PSA: please do not BuildRequires: qt5-devel

2020-04-06 Thread Iñaki Ucar
On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 at 18:08, Rex Dieter wrote: > > The qt5, qt5-devel metapackages were introduced a few releases ago as merely > a convenience for end-users, not intended to be used in official fedora > packages, but seems these have seen some non-trivial adoption anyway. > > Personally, I

Re: Fedora 32 Final Freeze

2020-04-06 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 06. 04. 20 15:36, Mohan Boddu wrote: Hi all, Tomorrow, April 7th 2020, is an important day on the Fedora 32 schedule [1], with significant cut-offs. Tomorrow we have the Final Freeze [2] which starts at 14:00 UTC. This means that only packages which fix accepted blocker or freeze exception

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-06 Thread Randy Barlow
On 4/6/20 6:37 AM, Leigh Griffin wrote: I'm sorry if you took my mail up as implying a lack of value from how the team historically worked. It's a classic no-no to start an apology with "I'm sorry *if you*". It's not an apology at all, it's a defense disguised as an apology. It is thus

Self Introduction: Nadav Har'El

2020-04-06 Thread Nadav Har'El
Hi, my name is Nadav Har'El. I'm here because I noticed that the "python-cassandra-driver" driver was orphaned. When asking to adopt it, I was told (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/9365) that because this package had already been orphaned five months earlier, I should become a packager and initiate

Re: Updating MUMPS/Sundials/PETSc

2020-04-06 Thread David Schwörer
On 4/5/20 6:06 PM, Antonio Trande wrote: > On 04/04/20 19:23, David S wrote: >> On 4/4/20 4:38 PM, Antonio Trande wrote: >>> Hi all. >>> >>> `MUMPS-5.3.0` [1] `PETSc-3.13.0` [2] and `Sundials-5.2.0` [3] are coming >>> on Rawhide; these updates will need rebuilds of dependent packages: >>> >>

Re: Fedora 32 FTBFS packages to be orphaned in 1 week

2020-04-06 Thread Ian McInerney
On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 2:30 PM Leigh Scott wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 12:00 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > > > > Taken. Will start builds that fix this later today. > > > > -Ian > You could try >

Re: Urgently downgrade xorg-x11-drv-intel

2020-04-06 Thread Olivier Fourdan
Hi, On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 4:57 PM Tomasz Torcz wrote: > Yes, that's the kernel side part. But in userland, > we are NOT using xorg-x11-drv-intel for intel gen4 and up > (if I understand > > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/xorg-x11-server/blob/HEAD/f/06_use-intel-only-on-pre-gen4.diff >

Re: Orphaning package procedure. (icewm, spring, springlobby)

2020-04-06 Thread Artem Tim
Hello. Gilboa, i would like to continue maintaining IceWM. And i interesting in 'springlobby' package. Please add me as co-maintainer. FAS: atim. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: Fedora 32 FTBFS packages to be orphaned in 1 week

2020-04-06 Thread Vascom
I would like to take arduino. I can make buildable again 1.8.5 version and may be update it to latest. My FAS name: vascom -- Best regards, Vasiliy Glazov вс, 29 мар. 2020 г. в 14:15, Miro Hrončok : > > According to the Fedora's Fails To Build From Source policy: > >

PSA: please do not BuildRequires: qt5-devel

2020-04-06 Thread Rex Dieter
The qt5, qt5-devel metapackages were introduced a few releases ago as merely a convenience for end-users, not intended to be used in official fedora packages, but seems these have seen some non-trivial adoption anyway. Personally, I objected to metapackage introduction at the fearing this would

Orphaning package procedure. (icewm, spring, springlobby)

2020-04-06 Thread Gilboa Davara
Hello, Due to the extreme time constraints that I'm forced to orphan most of my remaining packages. Namely icewm (which has an active co-maintainer), spring and springlobby. Following the procedure in wiki [1], I should use Pagure to orphan both packages. However, the list of projects in the

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

2020-04-06 Thread Gabriel L. Somlo
On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 09:49:13 -0400, rosser@gmail.com wrote: > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 9:36 AM Alex Scheel wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > I believe we need a different way to engage the rest of our packager > > base. > > I'm a packager who has been staying silent, but I generally strongly >

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

2020-04-06 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Ben Rosser" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 9:49:13 AM > Subject: Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04 > Thanks for sharing your thoughts. :-) > Not saying you're wrong that it would be nice to have the ability to

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

2020-04-06 Thread Solomon Peachy
On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 09:35:58AM -0400, Alex Scheel wrote: > That isn't indicative of the entire Fedora packager ecosystem. A lot of > people are staying silent. Do you really want/expect 300 folks to chime in with "+1" replies? Speaking for myself, Neal and Adam (and others) have already

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-06 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 2:14 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 8:48 AM Josh Boyer > wrote: > > > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 8:42 AM Stasiek Michalski > wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 8:26 AM Stasiek Michalski > > > > > > > > Why is it disappointing? The Pagure project

Re: Fedora 32 FTBFS packages to be orphaned in 1 week

2020-04-06 Thread Vít Ondruch
I have take the following: > rubygem-addressable > rubygem-ruby_parser > rubygem-ruby2ruby > rubygem-websocket > Vít ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

2020-04-06 Thread Nicolas Mailhot via devel
Le lundi 06 avril 2020 à 10:09 -0400, Alex Scheel a écrit : > > In the last FESCo election, 273 ballots were cast [0]. According to > the > graph maintained by Matthew Miller [1], we have between 225 and 375 > active maintainers in Fedora, depending on how you count. That’s *weekly* activity. As

x11vnc license corrected

2020-04-06 Thread Petr Pisar
I corrected a license tag in a new x11vnc 0.9.16 version from "GPLv2" to "GPLv2+". -- Petr signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-06 Thread Randy Barlow
On 4/6/20 11:02 AM, Leigh Griffin wrote: Ok let's scenario this out so as several people want us to restart and go again, largely because they disagree with the decision and Pagure is the choice that they would have made. Much of the consternation is due to you not having employed an open

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-06 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 3:49 PM Randy Barlow wrote: > On 4/6/20 10:36 AM, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > Answering 100+ replies individually is engaging with the community. > > Happy to stop that if people aren't seeing the benefit of it though. > > Writing 100 e-mails isn't automatically "engagement".

Fedora 32 compose report: 20200406.n.0 changes

2020-04-06 Thread Fedora Branched Report
OLD: Fedora-32-20200405.n.0 NEW: Fedora-32-20200406.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:1 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 6 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 126 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 10.29 MiB Size of dropped packages:0 B Size

F32 ELF file analysis

2020-04-06 Thread Steve Grubb
Hello, Just wanted to share with everyone the results of a data collection on various metrics of ELF files when installing just @Core group. http://people.redhat.com/sgrubb/analysis/f32-analysis.slides.html#/ I recommend clicking on the "pop out" link and then you have more room to see the

[rpms/perl-Unix-Syslog] PR #1: Spec file cleanups: Use make_build, make_install macros, and use NO_PACKLIST=1

2020-04-06 Thread Paul Howarth
pghmcfc closed without merging a pull-request against the project: `perl-Unix-Syslog` that you are following. Closed pull-request: `` Spec file cleanups: Use make_build, make_install macros, and use NO_PACKLIST=1 `` https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/perl-Unix-Syslog/pull-request/1

[rpms/perl-Unix-Syslog] PR #1: Spec file cleanups: Use make_build, make_install macros, and use NO_PACKLIST=1

2020-04-06 Thread Paul Howarth
pghmcfc commented on the pull-request: `Spec file cleanups: Use make_build, make_install macros, and use NO_PACKLIST=1` that you are following: `` I merged this locally and fixed the typo in the ExtUtils::MakeMaker reference. It's now pushed and built in Fedora. `` To reply, visit the link

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Introduce module Obsoletes and EOL

2020-04-06 Thread Petr Pisar
On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 03:02:02PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 12:13:16PM +0200, Daniel Mach wrote: > > >> # A string representing a Name of a module that is EOLed > > >> # MANDATORY > > >> module: nodejs > > >> > > >> # A string representing a

Re: Urgently downgrade xorg-x11-drv-intel

2020-04-06 Thread Alexei Podtelezhnikov
> > "a011" is precisely the last entry found in > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/xorg-x11-server/blob/HEAD/f/06_use-intel-only-on-pre-gen4.diff > which explains why Xorg picks "intel" as seen in the Xorg logs: > > [ 7821.917] (==) Matched intel as autoconfigured driver 0 > [ 7821.917] (==)

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-06 Thread Randy Barlow
On 4/6/20 6:13 AM, Leigh Griffin wrote: CPE is entirely unique in this industry and is not perfectly aligned to the idealistic software engineering process, we are getting there. No software team is perfectly aligned to the idealistic software engineering process. CPE is not unique in that

Re: Urgently downgrade xorg-x11-drv-intel

2020-04-06 Thread Peter Robinson
> > Hi All, > > > > Please urgently downgrade xorg-x11-drv-intel before shipping Fedora 32 and > > spare users some pain. At least two very recent crash/segfault reports are > > fixed by downgrading to the fc31 version of xorg-x11-drv-intel. > > > >

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-06 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 12:10 PM Julen Landa Alustiza < jla...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > > > 20/4/6 12:29(e)an, Leigh Griffin igorleak idatzi zuen: > > > Around 10 tickets a month is the average I believe for infra to deal > > with / handle from direct pings. > > > Where? > Infra queue

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Introduce module Obsoletes and EOL

2020-04-06 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 12:13:16PM +0200, Daniel Mach wrote: > >> # A string representing a Name of a module that is EOLed > >> # MANDATORY > >> module: nodejs > >> > >> # A string representing a Stream of a module that is EOLed > >> # MANDATORY > >> stream: 11 > >> > >> # A string

Re: Fedora 32 Final Freeze

2020-04-06 Thread Mohan Boddu
Hi all, It is just now decided by FESCO to postpone the freeze by 2 days due to issues with bodhi and koji, that means, the freeze will start on Thursday, April 09 2020 at 14:00 UTC. For more information, please look at https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2369 On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 9:36 AM Mohan

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

2020-04-06 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 06. 04. 20 17:20, Leigh Griffin wrote: I'm reaffirming that I hear the concerns and that my team are taking them on board. I am also reaffirming that our engagement point is with the Fedora Council, not at the individual level as the Council is responsible for listening and collating

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

2020-04-06 Thread Leigh Griffin
On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 4:34 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 06. 04. 20 17:20, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > I'm reaffirming that I hear the concerns and that my team are taking > them on > > board. I am also reaffirming that our engagement point is with the > Fedora > > Council, not at the individual

Re: Urgently downgrade xorg-x11-drv-intel

2020-04-06 Thread Peter Robinson
> > >Are they? We stopped using intel driver around F26, we use > > > modesetting for Intel GPUs now. The above is clearly non-default > > > configuratiob. > > > > I am far from an expert on the subject, but I am pretty sure we did not stop > > using intel driver when we use kernel mode

Re: F32 ELF file analysis

2020-04-06 Thread Jerry James
On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 10:04 AM Steve Grubb wrote: > Just wanted to share with everyone the results of a data collection on > various metrics of ELF files when installing just @Core group. That is really cool. Thanks for sharing this, Steve. -- Jerry James http://www.jamezone.org/

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

2020-04-06 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Till Maas" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 1:39:49 PM > Subject: Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04 > > On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 08:35:28AM -0400, Alex Scheel wrote: > > - Original Message - > > > From:

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

2020-04-06 Thread James Cassell
On Mon, Apr 6, 2020, at 1:48 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 at 13:34, Robbie Harwood wrote: > > Aoife Moloney writes: > > > > > * We found a password, we do not know whose it is, but we have turned > > > it into the lost and found. > > > > I'm sorry, what? Can

Re: Self Introdction: nick black

2020-04-06 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 08:20:47AM -0400, Nick Black wrote: (i don't see any of these posts thus far in 2020, so perhaps they've fallen out of vogue? i'm merely blindly complying with the instructions at [0]). hello there in RPM land! i'm a longtime linux user/developer. my first Linux install

Re: F32 ELF file analysis

2020-04-06 Thread Vít Ondruch
Should I be able to see analysis for e.g. Ruby? I am asking, because I can't, so not sure if I am doing anything wrong. Vít Dne 06. 04. 20 v 18:03 Steve Grubb napsal(a): > Hello, > > Just wanted to share with everyone the results of a data collection on > various metrics of ELF files when

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

2020-04-06 Thread Robbie Harwood
Aoife Moloney writes: > * We found a password, we do not know whose it is, but we have turned > it into the lost and found. I'm sorry, what? Can you explain what this is and what it means? Thanks, --Robbie signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Fedora-IoT-32-20200406.0 compose check report

2020-04-06 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 1/8 (x86_64) Old failures (same test failed in Fedora-IoT-32-20200405.0): ID: 568509 Test: x86_64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso base_services_start URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/568509 Passed openQA tests: 7/8 (x86_64) New passes (same

Re: Self Introdction: nick black

2020-04-06 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 09:03:54AM -0400, Nick Black wrote: Richard Shaw left as an exercise for the reader: Up to you which way to go... I don't see packaging it in RPM Fusion as a problem. I would think most people who would be interested in this package would likely not have a problem

Re: Self Introdction: nick black

2020-04-06 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 8:03 AM Nick Black wrote: > Richard Shaw left as an exercise for the reader: > > Up to you which way to go... I don't see packaging it in RPM Fusion as a > > problem. I would think most people who would be interested in this > package > > would likely not have a problem

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

2020-04-06 Thread R P Herrold
On Mon, 6 Apr 2020, Leigh Griffin wrote: > We cannot take the view of a singular person and make changes based on > that, we defer to them for prioritisation and their input. That's how the But, having reviewed the 'wishlist' of criteria quoted last week, [in the thread with Ben Cotton's

Re: Orphaning package procedure. (icewm, spring, springlobby)

2020-04-06 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 04:59:14PM +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote: > Hello, > > Due to the extreme time constraints that I'm forced to orphan most of my > remaining packages. > Namely icewm (which has an active co-maintainer), spring and springlobby. > Following the procedure in wiki [1], I should

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-06 Thread clime
On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 at 17:52, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 4:25 PM Adam Williamson > wrote: >> >> On Mon, 2020-04-06 at 15:35 +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: >> > >> > > Does it mean you didn't consider dist-git<->zuul integration vs. Gitlab >> > > CI? I.e. technical

Re: Need help with getting packager permissions to bugzilla account

2020-04-06 Thread Markku Korkeala
Kevin Fenzi kirjoitti 6.4.2020 21:46: On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 05:40:32PM +0300, Markku Korkeala wrote: Hi, I was sponsored to the packager group last year (FAS account korkeala), that time I had an old bugzilla account which I used. Now that I tried to do my first review, but it seems that

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-06 Thread David Kaufmann
On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 04:02:34PM +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > Ok let's scenario this out so as several people want us to restart […] In this context of "restarting the scenario": > How do we accommodate that when our other stakeholders' needs are now > not being met as a whole and when the

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

2020-04-06 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 at 13:34, Robbie Harwood wrote: > Aoife Moloney writes: > > > * We found a password, we do not know whose it is, but we have turned > > it into the lost and found. > > I'm sorry, what? Can you explain what this is and what it means? > > This was something I slipped in to see

Re: Self Introdction: nick black

2020-04-06 Thread stan via devel
On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 09:03:54 -0400 Nick Black wrote: > Now, a "notcurses-noffmpeg" version in Core and a > "notcurses+ffmpeg" in Fusion seems reasonable. Is this kind of > thing ever done? I think this is still true for audacity, mplayer, and chromium so they get patented video codec support.

Re: Urgently downgrade xorg-x11-drv-intel

2020-04-06 Thread Adam Jackson
On Mon, 2020-04-06 at 13:46 -0400, Alexei Podtelezhnikov wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 12:57 PM Adam Jackson wrote: > > But the driver we default to on all the newer Intel chips should work > > on yours too, though I'm not entirely sure whether you'll end up with > > working 3D

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-06 Thread Sheogorath via devel
On Tue, 2020-03-31 at 13:08 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:48:55AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > Some failure of process or communication must have occurred > > somewhere along the lines, because open source should have been the > > first and most important

Re: F32 ELF file analysis

2020-04-06 Thread Steve Grubb
On Monday, April 6, 2020 1:22:15 PM EDT Vít Ondruch wrote: > Should I be able to see analysis for e.g. Ruby? I am asking, because I > can't, so not sure if I am doing anything wrong. Its likely not part of @Core package group. The analysis was run on a small subset of Fedora 32 to see what a

Re: Urgently downgrade xorg-x11-drv-intel

2020-04-06 Thread Alexei Podtelezhnikov
On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 12:57 PM Adam Jackson wrote: > > But the driver we default to on all the newer Intel chips should work > on yours too, though I'm not entirely sure whether you'll end up with > working 3D acceleration. And if you uninstall xorg-x11-drv-intel, > you'll fall back to the

Re: Need help with getting packager permissions to bugzilla account

2020-04-06 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 05:40:32PM +0300, Markku Korkeala wrote: > Hi, > > I was sponsored to the packager group last year (FAS account korkeala), > > that time I had an old bugzilla account which I used. Now that I tried > > to do my first review, but it seems that I did not have privileges to

Re: Urgently downgrade xorg-x11-drv-intel

2020-04-06 Thread Adam Jackson
On Mon, 2020-04-06 at 09:27 -0400, Alexei Podtelezhnikov wrote: > Hi All, > > Please urgently downgrade xorg-x11-drv-intel before shipping Fedora 32 and > spare users some pain. At least two very recent crash/segfault reports are > fixed by downgrading to the fc31 version of xorg-x11-drv-intel.

Re: v4l2loopback kernel module in Fedora?

2020-04-06 Thread stan via devel
On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 21:44:16 -0400 Christopher wrote: > I'm probably going to abandon the effort anyway. obs-studio in Fedora > crashes constantly every time I try to change the settings and save, > so I couldn't figure out how to get it to work with v4l2loopback. I You are using obs in a

libxc version 5 coming up: soname bump

2020-04-06 Thread Susi Lehtola
Hi, libxc 5.0.0 has been released. Due to the addition of several new features, it comes with an soname bump. Also, the Fortran libraries have changed from the earlier release: now, the old F03 wrapper employing iso_c_binding is now shipped as the F90 wrapper, as the old F90 wrapper based on a

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

2020-04-06 Thread Till Maas
On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 08:35:28AM -0400, Alex Scheel wrote: > - Original Message - > > From: "Miro Hrončok" > > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > > Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 8:28:15 AM > > Subject: Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04 > > > > On 06. 04. 20 14:19, Alex Scheel wrote: > > > That

Re: Urgently downgrade xorg-x11-drv-intel

2020-04-06 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Mon, 2020-04-06 at 12:13 -0400, Alexei Podtelezhnikov wrote: > > "a011" is precisely the last entry found in > > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/xorg-x11-server/blob/HEAD/f/06_use-intel-only-on-pre-gen4.diff > > which explains why Xorg picks "intel" as seen in the Xorg logs: > > > > [

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V4

2020-04-06 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 5:56 PM Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > I've just published a fourth version[1] of the ELN proposal. With a > lot of input from Miro Hrončok, I think I've finally been able to > clarify some of the points that we were

Is there a way to mockbuild systemd?

2020-04-06 Thread Göran Uddeborg
I asked this in ask.fedoraproject (https://ask.fedoraproject.org/t/is-there-a-way-to-mockbuild-systemd), but FranciscoD suggested this might be a better place. I'm trying to build a slightly modified version of systemd. To start with, I tried to do a fedpkg mockbuild of systemd without any

Fedora 33 Self-Contained Change proposal: Network Time Security

2020-04-06 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NetworkTimeSecurity == Summary == Support for the Network Time Security (NTS) authentication mechanism in the NTP client/server (chrony) and installer (anaconda). == Owner == * Name: [[User:mlichvar| Miroslav Lichvar]], [[User:mkolman| Martin Kolman]] *

Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V4

2020-04-06 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 I've just published a fourth version[1] of the ELN proposal. With a lot of input from Miro Hrončok, I think I've finally been able to clarify some of the points that we were getting hung up on. Changes in this version of the proposal[2]: * Improve

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V4

2020-04-06 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 06. 04. 20 23:53, Stephen Gallagher wrote: * Clarify that the time limit on PRs is only for determining if the maintainer is responsive. If they reply, the timer is cleared. As a side note (probably out of scope of this proposal), I think that if we have RHEL packages in Fedora with not

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

2020-04-06 Thread Erinn Looney-Triggs
With all of the other noise going on around this, I wanted to thank you folks for putting this out. Even this basic update shed light on a few things I had no idea about, communishift and rpmautospec. So thank you it is much appreciated that you are doing these. -Erinn On 4/4/20 1:02 PM,

Re: Urgently downgrade xorg-x11-drv-intel

2020-04-06 Thread Adam Jackson
On Mon, 2020-04-06 at 16:28 -0400, Paul Dufresne via devel wrote: > Le 20-04-06 à 15 h 34, Adam Jackson a écrit : > > On Mon, 2020-04-06 at 13:46 -0400, Alexei Podtelezhnikov wrote: > > > Xorg does not start without xorg-x11-drv-intel on GMA 3150. OpenGL > > > 2.1 used to be enabled on this

Re: Self Introdction: nick black

2020-04-06 Thread Nick Black
Richard Shaw left as an exercise for the reader: > Yes, there's a number of examples but audacity and sox are two. What we do > at RPM Fusion is create a new package there that depends on the package in > Fedora and either append -freeworld (just patent issues, like ffmpeg which > are in the free

Re: Urgently downgrade xorg-x11-drv-intel

2020-04-06 Thread Paul Dufresne via devel
Le 20-04-06 à 15 h 34, Adam Jackson a écrit : On Mon, 2020-04-06 at 13:46 -0400, Alexei Podtelezhnikov wrote: Xorg does not start without xorg-x11-drv-intel on GMA 3150. OpenGL 2.1 used to be enabled on this hardware, but got dropped I think we have a fix for that. Let me poke at things a

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V4

2020-04-06 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 6:09 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 5:56 PM Stephen Gallagher > wrote: > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA256 > > > > I've just published a fourth version[1] of the ELN proposal. With a > > lot of input from Miro Hrončok, I think I've

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V4

2020-04-06 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 07. 04. 20 0:08, Neal Gompa wrote: This version of the proposal is nearly perfect, in my view. There are a couple of things I think should change: * The DistTag should be versioned. Either .eln.elX (e.g. .eln.el9), .elnX (e.g. .eln9), or just plain .elX (e.g. .el9). The good thing is that

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