On Thu, 2012-11-15 at 06:31 +, Peter Robinson wrote:
> > Still, even in RHEL's policy, CURRENTRELEASE is clearly wrong for a
> > straightforward 'this was a bug that got fixed and we pushed an update'
> > case, so I don't know why people are suddenly plumping for it, other
> > than that it som
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 6:15 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-11-15 at 05:52 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> Luke Macken wrote:
>> > A new bugfix release of Bodhi has just been deployed to production.
>> >
>> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates
>> >
>> > Bugs and enhancement reque
On Thu, 2012-11-15 at 05:52 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Luke Macken wrote:
> > A new bugfix release of Bodhi has just been deployed to production.
> >
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates
> >
> > Bugs and enhancement requests can be filed here:
> >
> > http://bodhi.fedorahosted.o
On Wed, 2012-11-14 at 22:23 -0500, Scott Schmit wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 09:36:17AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > Based on the conversation so far, I think the target is:
> >
> > - mandatory install of everything up to yum install from the network
> > - default install of a small se
On Wed, 2012-11-14 at 18:49 -0800, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Wed, 2012-11-14 at 16:27 -0800, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
> >> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Ian Pilcher wrote:
> >> > On 11/13/2012 06:55 PM, Adam Williamson w
Luke Macken wrote:
> A new bugfix release of Bodhi has just been deployed to production.
>
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates
>
> Bugs and enhancement requests can be filed here:
>
> http://bodhi.fedorahosted.org
This seems to be closing bugs as CURRENTRELEASE rather than ERRATA
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 09:36:17AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> Based on the conversation so far, I think the target is:
>
> - mandatory install of everything up to yum install from the network
> - default install of a small set of packages necessary for a consistent
> Fedora experience
On 15.11.2012 04:51, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
How much Python code are you proposing "someone" ports to Lua? ;-)
I am proposing mostly porting C code to Lua/FFI (the code of the
problematic Python C bindings)
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On 15.11.2012 04:32, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Unlike the others, it generates the native code at runtime (Just In Time),
so there is a performance penalty (especially for nontrivial programs) for
the (JIT) compilation which gcc and ocamlopt won't have. The quality of the
generated code could also be
How much Python code are you proposing "someone" ports to Lua? ;-)
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Alek Paunov wrote:
> On 12.11.2012 21:34, Steve Grubb wrote:
>>
>>
>> But the problem I see is a lot of libraries are wrapped by swig, which
>> leaks
>> memory like a sieve. If swig didn't generat
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-11-14 at 16:27 -0800, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Ian Pilcher wrote:
>> > On 11/13/2012 06:55 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> >> It might be worth re-evaluating whether that's realistic any
Alek Paunov wrote:
> On 13.11.2012 18:35, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>> This seems about right to me: Both ocamlopt & gcc generate native
>> x86-64 programs, but there's a small amount of overhead in the OCaml
>> binary (initializing the minor heap of the GC).
>>
>
> luajit too (it is one of the f
On 15.11.2012 02:19, Lennart Poettering wrote:
For containers a yum group for usage with --installroot= is the only
thing that matters.
FWIW, For me Anaconda is overkill for the KVM guest images too. I am
used to do that with small xquery script (easy for the libvirt domain
definition) cont
Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> Looking at hour original warning flag: Squeezing every last megabyte
> out of the running system for cloud is a really new thing that we
> haven't historically required. Sure, it would be great to make
> firewalld smaller (and rewriting firewalld to C is one of those things
On Wed, 2012-11-14 at 16:27 -0800, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Ian Pilcher wrote:
> > On 11/13/2012 06:55 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> >> It might be worth re-evaluating whether that's realistic any more,
> >> though, and whether we're _really_ committed to fin
On Thu, 2012-11-15 at 02:10 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Sat, 10.11.12 09:26, Richard W.M. Jones (rjo...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 02:33:53AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > > Matthew Miller wrote:
> > > > Apparently the new version of polkit brings in javascript. Th
On Sat, 10.11.12 09:26, Richard W.M. Jones (rjo...@redhat.com) wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 02:33:53AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > Matthew Miller wrote:
> > > Apparently the new version of polkit brings in javascript. The js package
> > > is 6.5MB. I think anything that uses polkit will dep
On Tue, 13.11.12 18:03, Thomas Woerner (twoer...@redhat.com) wrote:
> The security team asked me not to make firewalld a D-BUS driven
> mechanism, because of security concerns and also because of SELinux.
Uh? If you write a new D-Bus service and want to use bus activation,
then you should Systemd
On 12.11.2012 21:34, Steve Grubb wrote:
But the problem I see is a lot of libraries are wrapped by swig, which leaks
memory like a sieve. If swig didn't generate such leaky code, Python based
daemons wouldn't be as scary.
IMHO, Python is one of the best ways to express management logic. As
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Lennart Poettering
wrote:
> On Thu, 15.11.12 00:56, Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) wrote:
>
>> I think a good way to approach this is by looking for the interesting
>> usecases for a minimal installation:
>>
>> A) Containers
>> B) VMs
>> C) Bare-Metal Se
Time synchronization inside virtual machines is
a. Hypervisor-dependent. See the docs for VirtualBox, VMware, Xen and
kvm and read the fine print. I don't even know if there *is*
documentation for EC2.
b. Poorly documented and difficult to test. If you don't *need*
anything better than NTP / one s
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Ian Pilcher wrote:
> On 11/13/2012 06:55 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> It might be worth re-evaluating whether that's realistic any more,
>> though, and whether we're _really_ committed to finally replacing
>> network with NM in some kind of reasonable timeframe.
>
On 14 November 2012 17:19, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Wed, 14.11.12 17:15, Stephen John Smoogen (smo...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
>> >> How about a separate group for containers, since the packages and use
>> >> case are very different than 'core' provides?
>> >>
>> >> @core-container ? or @containe
Dan Williams wrote:
> Could be because your wifi adapter is a recent one, and thus uses the
> preferred upstream nl80211 kernel configuration API.
It's an Intel PRO/Wireless 2200bg, so not exactly recent.
> In addition, the wext api of "operation 1, then operation 2, then
> operation 3" simply do
On Wed, 14.11.12 17:15, Stephen John Smoogen (smo...@gmail.com) wrote:
> >> How about a separate group for containers, since the packages and use
> >> case are very different than 'core' provides?
> >>
> >> @core-container ? or @container ?
> >
> > Well, it would be weird that the "minimal" instal
On 14 November 2012 17:13, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Wed, 14.11.12 17:05, Kevin Fenzi (ke...@scrye.com) wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 01:03:03 +0100
>> Lennart Poettering wrote:
>>
>> ...snip...
>>
>> > >
>> > > I think it would make sense to focus on the intersection of
>> > > installatio
On Wed, 14.11.12 17:05, Kevin Fenzi (ke...@scrye.com) wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 01:03:03 +0100
> Lennart Poettering wrote:
>
> ...snip...
>
> > >
> > > I think it would make sense to focus on the intersection of
> > > installation set for these usecases. And hence:
> > >
> > > No SSH. No B
On Wed, 14.11.12 10:34, john.flor...@dart.biz (john.flor...@dart.biz) wrote:
> > From: Chris Adams
> >
> > Well, as soon as you have cron, you'll have things wanting to send
> > email, and even sendmail mail to "root" on the local system requires
> > some type of MTA in most cases.
>
> >From my
On Wed, 14.11.12 08:18, Chris Adams (cmad...@hiwaay.net) wrote:
> Once upon a time, Thomas Bendler said:
> > Does an MTA really make sense in the core definition? The configuration of
> > MTA is nowadays much more complex compared to the "old" days. Normaly you
> > need a FQDN, you need a SMTP re
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 01:03:03 +0100
Lennart Poettering wrote:
...snip...
> >
> > I think it would make sense to focus on the intersection of
> > installation set for these usecases. And hence:
> >
> > No SSH. No Boot loader. And definitely not Sendmail.
>
> Also, no kernel and no kmod for A,
On Thu, 15.11.12 00:56, Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) wrote:
> I think a good way to approach this is by looking for the interesting
> usecases for a minimal installation:
>
> A) Containers
> B) VMs
> C) Bare-Metal Servers
> D) Paranoid people (not relevant)
> E) Embedded (out of focu
On Mon, 12.11.12 11:28, Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) wrote:
> Okay, cool -- there's a lot of enthusiasm for a SIG for the core package
> set.
>
> So, first up on the SIG goals: clarifying our target.
>
> It's been suggested before that there's so many possibilities that this is
> us
On 11/14/2012 09:02 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
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On 13.11.2012 18:35, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
Hmmm:
$ echo '' > true.ml
$ ocamlopt.opt true.ml -o true
$ time ./true
real 0m0.002s
user 0m0.000s
sys0m0.001s
time luajit -e "require'os'; os.exit(42)"
real0m0.001s
user0m0.000s
sys 0m0.000s
But, check here for a far more
Good day all,
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On 11/11/2012 10:01 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
On 11/06/2012 06:07 AM, Marcela Mašláňová wrote:
Oh no, you are top posting again ;-)
And please, please, please could we trim quotes to relevant ones? Thanks!
Ohmahgerd, thank you for saying that. I am all for bottom posting but
the _reason_
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> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Matthew Miller
>
> If David is unwilling to just resurrect the old .pkla parser, one
> option for "solving" the problem might be writing a piece of code
> that
> would provide compatibility with the .pkla files.
>
> This could be
On 11/14/2012 07:33 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 09:44:55AM -0500, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Chris Adams wrote:
Great - let's take something that people are using, remove that
functionality, and not announce it!
This is not cool; it repre
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 09:44:55AM -0500, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Chris Adams wrote:
> > Great - let's take something that people are using, remove that
> > functionality, and not announce it!
> >
> > This is not cool; it represents one of my biggest frustrations
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Paul Whalen wrote:
> Good day all,
>
> This weeks Fedora ARM status meeting will take place today (Wednesday Nov
> 14th) in #fedora-meeting-1 on Freenode.
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Roberto Ragusa wrote:
> Just for fun, let's see who is the worst.
Challenge accepted. :-)
$ cat nothing.adb
procedure Nothing is
begin
null;
end Nothing;
$ gnatmake nothing.adb -o true
gcc -c nothing.adb
gnatbind -x nothing.ali
gnatlink nothing.ali -o true
$ time ./true
real0m0.001s
use
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On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:53:16PM -0600, Ian Pilcher wrote:
>> Wait. So the .pkla file I wrote to allow my run virt-manager as my
>> normal user is going to stop working, and I'm going to have to write the
>> replacement in JavaScript?
>
>
On 14 November 2012 16:27, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> If you're using the yum backend, it already has support for this
> via a plugin.
Yes, I'm using yum but this problem applies for other distros too.
> snapper's just a wrapper around the other commandline tools, right? We
> do have 'system-stora
Hi folks,
Since there's currently a lot of discussion going on surrounding firewalld
I thought I'd throw in another aspect to these discussions (following
encouragement from Mathew Miller). I'm speaking with my shorewall package
maintainer hat on, but the issue would arise with any other framework
Greetings.
Fedora 18 is now in freeze and the Beta change deadline is
upon us (again).
Updates will land in updates-testing after being pushed.
Updates that fix accepted blocker and accepted NTH bugs for the Beta
release will be pushed into the base repo when stable.
We are in the Pre Beta s
On 11/14/2012 03:53 PM, Richard Hughes wrote:
In https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/OfflineSystemUpdates we've
implemented doing the package updates at first-boot time. This makes a
lot of the hard-to-fix problems a lot easier. The question then
becomes, how do we make the OS Update process
Richard Hughes (hughsi...@gmail.com) said:
> In https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/OfflineSystemUpdates we've
> implemented doing the package updates at first-boot time. This makes a
> lot of the hard-to-fix problems a lot easier. The question then
> becomes, how do we make the OS Update proc
Hello,
I've pushed release candidate of PCRE 8.32 into rawhide today.
I belive it should not cause any difficulties as I've run it in my system
for some time. It should be fully compatible with previous version
though it introduces some significant changes like UTF-32 support,
proper case-folding
Am 14.11.2012 01:52, schrieb Adam Williamson:
> I don't think that maintaining iptables/s-c-f forever as a 'lightweight
> alternative' to firewalld is the way to go
IT IS the way to go!
not as default, not supported via GUI is OK
but iptables.service and "configuration" with shellscripts is wh
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On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 04:55:50 PM Adam Williamson wrote:
> > So far everything works without, and I think we should endevor to keep
> > that true.
>
> I think this is similar to the firewalld issue in that the basic theory
> here is that, look, NetworkManager is the way, the truth and the
commit 17b62e29c189ff9d4cb83e2978df1de468491b38
Author: Petr Šabata
Date: Wed Nov 14 16:53:58 2012 +0100
1.33 bump
.gitignore |1 +
perl-Image-Info.spec | 65 ++---
sources |2 +-
3 files changed, 36 insertions(+
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63f36362cb80d783c7f8df751ace89a0 Image-Info-1.33.tar.gz
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In https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/OfflineSystemUpdates we've
implemented doing the package updates at first-boot time. This makes a
lot of the hard-to-fix problems a lot easier. The question then
becomes, how do we make the OS Update process even smarter? A simple
check would be to see if
On Wednesday, November 14, 2012 08:07:25 AM tim.laurid...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:53 AM, Ian Pilcher wrote:
> > On 11/13/2012 09:50 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> > > Yes, this was a misunderstanding. What is still supported is the .policy
> >
> > files containing the default p
2012/11/14 Chris Adams
> [...]
> Ehh, for local "root" mails from failing cron jobs, "less
> /var/mail/root" works just fine. :)
>
Sending mails with telnet also works fine but I don't think that this is
the question ;). We work on the definition of core and what will be inside.
If we say, mail
> From: Chris Adams
>
> Well, as soon as you have cron, you'll have things wanting to send
> email, and even sendmail mail to "root" on the local system requires
> some type of MTA in most cases.
>From my experience, an MTA is still not required. Any stdout/err from the
cron jobs just go to th
> From: Stephen John Smoogen
> > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 08:00:23PM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote:
> > On EC2 (as in many virt environments) the hardware clock source is
actually
> > synced and running an ntpd service on the client is redundant.
> >
>
>
> They say it is but it is not always. I
Once upon a time, Thomas Bendler said:
> True, but then you need a mail client as well otherwise you won't see the
> local mails. So the question is, what is the definition of core? What
> should be the goal of core?
Ehh, for local "root" mails from failing cron jobs, "less
/var/mail/root" works
2012/11/14 Matthew Miller
> default install of a small set of packages necessary for a consistent
> Fedora experience including minimal admin tools
>
I was just surprised that there was no discussion about your proposal,
instead, there was immediately a discussion about the packages that should
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Chris Adams wrote:
> Great - let's take something that people are using, remove that
> functionality, and not announce it!
>
> This is not cool; it represents one of my biggest frustrations with a
> bunch of the "new and improved" ways of doing things. You track d
commit 36836080810c02ed86d0eb0b87fa452a87b1b396
Author: Petr Šabata
Date: Wed Nov 14 15:37:02 2012 +0100
Modernize the spec and drop command macros
perl-HTTP-Negotiate.spec | 16 +---
1 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-HTTP-Negotiate.spec
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 03:24:04PM +0100, Thomas Bendler wrote:
> Ok, but what is the intent? The first mail was a questioning what should be
> the scope of core and I didn't see a discussion answering this question. I
That's *this* discussion. :)
> think we should first define the mission statem
2012/11/14 Chris Adams
> [...]
>
Well, as soon as you have cron, you'll have things wanting to send
> email, and even sendmail mail to "root" on the local system requires
> some type of MTA in most cases.
>
True, but then you need a mail client as well otherwise you won't see the
local mails. So
Once upon a time, tim.laurid...@gmail.com said:
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:53 AM, Ian Pilcher wrote:
> > Wait. So the .pkla file I wrote to allow my run virt-manager as my
> > normal user is going to stop working, and I'm going to have to write the
> > replacement in JavaScript?
> >
> > Let's j
2012/11/14 Matthew Miller
> [...]
> I'd like to go back a step here to the question starting the thread.
> There's
> plenty of time to go over each package, but the basic question is intent.
> Clearly man pages aren't necessary for a super-minimal JEOS image, but
> that's not *historically* been
Once upon a time, Thomas Bendler said:
> Does an MTA really make sense in the core definition? The configuration of
> MTA is nowadays much more complex compared to the "old" days. Normaly you
> need a FQDN, you need a SMTP relay and lot other stuff more. So you will
> only get the mails off the sy
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 01:27:21PM +0100, Thomas Bendler wrote:
> - Minimal tools for admins
> > less
> > man-db
> > procps-ng
> > vim-minimal
> Is man-db really necessary? In the man pages included in the man-db package
> are not really helpful for a core system ... from my
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 12:37:38AM -0500, Seth Vidal wrote:
> >On EC2 (as in many virt environments) the hardware clock source is actually
> >synced and running an ntpd service on the client is redundant.
>
> I would say this is not accurate.
>
> My experience with the instances running under xen
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 11:34:56AM +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> AFAIK the major things for our usual use cases are covered, at least
> going by the F17 criteria. Sure, there may be more things missing.
Adam asked to keep those other things to the other thread, so I'll just
touch on the dependen
2012/11/13 Bill Nottingham
> [...]
>
- Minimal tools for admins
> less
> man-db
> procps-ng
> vim-minimal
>
Is man-db really necessary? In the man pages included in the man-db package
are not really helpful for a core system ... from my point of view.
> [...]
> - Get ma
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On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:53:16PM -0600, Ian Pilcher wrote:
> Wait. So the .pkla file I wrote to allow my run virt-manager as my
> normal user is going to stop working, and I'm going to have to write the
> replacement in JavaScript?
This particular case is the primary one I've seen for people ac
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On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> Well. I may be a little bit cynical on this, but I think the unsteered drift
> of this kind of thing goes like this:
>
> 1. Shiny new feature covers the desktop case, so let's make it the default
>in Fedora.
> 2. "Don't worry, if you hav
commit 293f9a35fdbd1495a58da5206c06074304dcf196
Author: Petr Písař
Date: Wed Nov 14 10:56:36 2012 +0100
3.62 bump
.gitignore|1 +
perl-CGI.spec | 10 +++---
sources |2 +-
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diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
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Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
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#topic #963 change of names of c
On 11/13/2012 05:35 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 02:41:44PM +, Pádraig Brady wrote:
>>
>> It could be argued that python is more suited to long lived programs:
>>
>> $ time /bin/true
>> real 0m0.002s
>
> Hmmm:
>
> $ echo '' > true.ml
> $ ocamlopt.opt true.ml -o true
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