Re: Removing packages that have broken dependencies in F23 tree

2015-09-25 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 06:39:14PM +0200, Kalev Lember wrote: > On 09/24/2015 05:47 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > > > > On 24.9.2015 16:34, Kalev Lember wrote: > >> python-Fionachurchyard, group::python-sig > > > > > > This one cannot work with Fedora 23 due to GDAL 2. Feel free to

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 23 Beta!

2015-09-25 Thread Thomas Daede
On 09/25/2015 02:18 PM, Andreas Tunek wrote: > Removed librtmp (what could go wrong?), now I get the following error: > > Sep 25 23:14:39 iMacLinux dnf[621]: Error: package > kernel-core-4.1.7-200.fc22.x86_64 requires systemd >= 200, but none of > the providers can be installed > Sep 25 23:14:39

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 23 Beta!

2015-09-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2015-09-25 at 23:18 +0200, Andreas Tunek wrote: > Removed librtmp (what could go wrong?), now I get the following > error: > > Sep 25 23:14:39 iMacLinux dnf[621]: Error: package > kernel-core-4.1.7-200.fc22.x86_64 requires systemd >= 200, but none > of > the providers can be installed > S

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 23 Beta!

2015-09-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2015-09-25 at 23:11 +0200, Andreas Tunek wrote: > I got the following error, any idea what could be wrong? > > Sep 25 23:06:56 iMacLinux dnf[616]: Error: package > librtmp-2.4-3.20131205.gitdc76f0a.fc22.x86_64 requires > libgnutls.so.28()(64bit), but none of the providers can be installe

[Test-Announce] 2015-09-28 @ 1600 UTC ** Fedora Blocker Review

2015-09-25 Thread Mike Ruckman
# F23 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2015-09-28 # Time: 1600 UTC # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net It's that time again: Blocker review time! We currently have 4 proposed blockers for Final. It'd be good to meet and knock them out. Should be a short meeting. If you have time

Re: apitrace-libs.i686 missing in x86_64 repos

2015-09-25 Thread Sandro Mani
On 25.09.2015 22:44, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 19:40:16 +0200, Sandro Mani wrote: You could ask releng to add apitrace-libs to the multilib whitelist: https://pagure.io/mash/new_issue However, I have to wonder, why wouldn't the library have a -devel package? Is there

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 23 Beta!

2015-09-25 Thread Andreas Tunek
2015-09-25 23:11 GMT+02:00 Andreas Tunek : > 2015-09-23 20:39 GMT+02:00 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek : >> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 07:47:58PM +0200, Andreas Tunek wrote: >>> 2015-09-23 0:16 GMT+02:00 Adam Williamson : >>> > On Tue, 2015-09-22 at 13:33 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: >>> >> On Tue, Sep 2

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 23 Beta!

2015-09-25 Thread Andreas Tunek
2015-09-23 20:39 GMT+02:00 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek : > On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 07:47:58PM +0200, Andreas Tunek wrote: >> 2015-09-23 0:16 GMT+02:00 Adam Williamson : >> > On Tue, 2015-09-22 at 13:33 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: >> >> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 06:21:00PM +0100, Pádraig Brady wrote:

Re: apitrace-libs.i686 missing in x86_64 repos

2015-09-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 19:40:16 +0200, Sandro Mani wrote: > >> You could ask releng to add apitrace-libs to the multilib whitelist: > >> > >> https://pagure.io/mash/new_issue > >> > >> However, I have to wonder, why wouldn't the library have a -devel > >> package? Is there no way to link against

Re: python: dropping the .py files [was Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything)] bloat

2015-09-25 Thread Florian Weimer
* Matthew Miller: > On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10:40AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> Also, you might consider to ship the precompiled bytecode just >> optionally, using recommends. >> >> On contrary, if you insist on shipping the bytecode, why you don't drop >> the .py files? I see a lot of duplic

Re: python: dropping the .py files [was Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything)] bloat

2015-09-25 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 25.9.2015 v 16:15 Mathieu Bridon napsal(a): > > (it is invaluable for learning and > > debugging purposes to be able to read/edit the code). > > Come on, this is not an argument. We don't install source code for any > other language which

Re: python: dropping the .py files [was Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything)] bloat

2015-09-25 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 25.9.2015 v 16:15 Mathieu Bridon napsal(a): > On Fri, 2015-09-25 at 10:04 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10:40AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: >>> Also, you might consider to ship the precompiled bytecode just >>> optionally, using recommends. >>> >>> On contrary, if you

Fedora 23 Branched 20150925 compose check report

2015-09-25 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. No images in this compose but not 23 Branched 20150924 No images in 23 Branched 20150924 but not this. Failed openQA tests: 12 of 52 ID: 3596Test: x86_64 universal server_multi_empty ID: 3593Test: x86_64 universal server_software_raid@uefi ID: 3581

Fedora Rawhide 20150925 compose check report

2015-09-25 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. No images in this compose but not Rawhide 20150924 No images in Rawhide 20150924 but not this. Failed openQA tests: 52 of 52 ID: 3591Test: x86_64 universal server_btrfs ID: 3523Test: i386 kde_live default_install ID: 3522Test: i386 workstation

Re: python: dropping the .py files [was Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything)] bloat

2015-09-25 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 25.9.2015 v 16:04 Matthew Miller napsal(a): > On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10:40AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> Also, you might consider to ship the precompiled bytecode just >> optionally, using recommends. Just to be clear, not/optional shipping the bytecode is the preferred method IMO >

Re: apitrace-libs.i686 missing in x86_64 repos

2015-09-25 Thread Sandro Mani
On 25.09.2015 17:44, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 13:13:20 +0200, Mathieu Bridon wrote: On Fri, 2015-09-25 at 13:03 +0200, Sandro Mani wrote: Is there any other option short of introducing a dummy -devel package? You could ask releng to add apitrace-libs to the multilib white

Re: apitrace-libs.i686 missing in x86_64 repos

2015-09-25 Thread Rex Dieter
Mathieu Bridon wrote: > On Fri, 2015-09-25 at 12:02 +0200, Sandro Mani wrote: >> Hello >> >> Got bug #1266181 filed about apitrace.i686 missing in the x86_64 >> repos. >> The reporter probably meant apitrace-libs.i686, which in the past was >> indeed installable on x86_64. Any ideas what the reas

Re: python: dropping the .py files [was Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything)] bloat

2015-09-25 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 09/25/2015 10:01 AM, Christopher Meng wrote: > On 9/25/15, Matthew Miller wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 11:30:38AM -0400, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: >>> Maybe we could utilize weak dependencies here. The python-foo package >>> would have only bytecompiled files and would Recommend >>> python-fo

Re: Use the 'users' list for non-dev questions (was: Re: Mounting a Samsung S5 phone for reading)

2015-09-25 Thread Albino B Neto
2015-09-25 13:05 GMT-03:00 Les Howell : > All of that said, who do I contact at the users list to get that setup > and working again? The mailing [0]. The members of list will help. 0 - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Albino -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fed

Re: Use the 'users' list for non-dev questions (was: Re: Mounting a Samsung S5 phone for reading)

2015-09-25 Thread Les Howell
On Fri, 2015-09-25 at 12:31 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > Please use the 'users' list for non-development questions. > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > Rich. > Hi, Richard, Does the users list still exist? I received a note saying it had too many bounces

Re: python: dropping the .py files [was Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything)] bloat

2015-09-25 Thread Christopher Meng
On 9/25/15, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 11:30:38AM -0400, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: >> Maybe we could utilize weak dependencies here. The python-foo package >> would have only bytecompiled files and would Recommend >> python-foo-sourcefiles. That way python-foo-sourcefiles would b

Re: python: dropping the .py files [was Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything)] bloat

2015-09-25 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 09/25/2015 10:04 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10:40AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: Also, you might consider to ship the precompiled bytecode just optionally, using recommends. On contrary, if you insist on shipping the bytecode, why you don't drop the .py files? I see a

Re: python: dropping the .py files [was Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything)] bloat

2015-09-25 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 11:30:38AM -0400, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > Maybe we could utilize weak dependencies here. The python-foo package > would have only bytecompiled files and would Recommend > python-foo-sourcefiles. That way python-foo-sourcefiles would be > installed in standard setting, but i

Re: apitrace-libs.i686 missing in x86_64 repos

2015-09-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 13:13:20 +0200, Mathieu Bridon wrote: > On Fri, 2015-09-25 at 13:03 +0200, Sandro Mani wrote: > > Is there any other option short of introducing a dummy -devel > > package? > > You could ask releng to add apitrace-libs to the multilib whitelist: > > https://pagure.io/mash

Re: python: dropping the .py files [was Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything)] bloat

2015-09-25 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
- Original Message - > On 09/25/2015 08:36 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 10:09:50AM -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: > >> It's nice to be able to edit the .py for testing without going through > >> hoops or building/installing rpms. > > > > Right, but you know that if you'

Re: python: dropping the .py files [was Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything)] bloat

2015-09-25 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 09/25/2015 08:36 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 10:09:50AM -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: It's nice to be able to edit the .py for testing without going through hoops or building/installing rpms. Right, but you know that if you're doing that in /usr/lib, that's *gross*, right

Re: python: dropping the .py files [was Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything)] bloat

2015-09-25 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 10:09:50AM -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: > It's nice to be able to edit the .py for testing without going through > hoops or building/installing rpms. Right, but you know that if you're doing that in /usr/lib, that's *gross*, right? :) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project L

Re: python: dropping the .py files [was Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything)] bloat

2015-09-25 Thread Fabian Deutsch
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Fri, 2015-09-25 at 16:17 +0200, Fabian Deutsch wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Matthew Miller >> wrote: >> > > On contrary, if you insist on shipping the bytecode, why you >> > > don't drop >> > > the .py files? I see a lot

Re: python: dropping the .py files [was Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything)] bloat

2015-09-25 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Fri, 2015-09-25 at 16:17 +0200, Fabian Deutsch wrote: > On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Matthew Miller > wrote: > > > On contrary, if you insist on shipping the bytecode, why you > > > don't drop > > > the .py files? I see a lot of duplication all around python > > > packages > > Don't d

Re: python: dropping the .py files [was Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything)] bloat

2015-09-25 Thread Fabian Deutsch
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: >> On contrary, if you insist on shipping the bytecode, why you don't drop >> the .py files? I see a lot of duplication all around python packages Don't do that, it has impact on functionality. We did this for years [0], but you wonder h

Re: python: dropping the .py files [was Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything)] bloat

2015-09-25 Thread Mathieu Bridon
On Fri, 2015-09-25 at 10:04 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10:40AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > Also, you might consider to ship the precompiled bytecode just > > optionally, using recommends. > > > > On contrary, if you insist on shipping the bytecode, why you don't >

Re: python: dropping the .py files [was Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything)] bloat

2015-09-25 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 25 Sep 2015, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10:40AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: Also, you might consider to ship the precompiled bytecode just optionally, using recommends. On contrary, if you insist on shipping the bytecode, why you don't drop the .py files? I see a lo

python: dropping the .py files [was Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything)] bloat

2015-09-25 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:10:40AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Also, you might consider to ship the precompiled bytecode just > optionally, using recommends. > > On contrary, if you insist on shipping the bytecode, why you don't drop > the .py files? I see a lot of duplication all around python pa

Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything) bloat

2015-09-25 Thread Fabian Deutsch
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 4:00 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 12:59:09AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: >> > cares?" adds up. If it *got* us anything in terms of functionality, >> > okay, I can sell that to people, but for the base, this is just bloat. >> Bummer. The

Re: Fedora 23 cloud image (and, for that matter, minimal anything) bloat

2015-09-25 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 12:59:09AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > cares?" adds up. If it *got* us anything in terms of functionality, > > okay, I can sell that to people, but for the base, this is just bloat. > Bummer. The reason for libxkbcommon dependency is to be able to make > su

F-23 Branched report: 20150925 changes

2015-09-25 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Fri Sep 25 07:15:03 UTC 2015 Broken deps for armhfp -- [apache-scout] apache-scout-1.2.6-11.fc21.noarch requires mvn(org.apache.juddi:uddi-ws) apache-scout-1.2.6-11.fc21.noarch requires mvn(org.apache.juddi:

mizdebsk set the koschei monitoring flag of perl-Test-Manifest to True

2015-09-25 Thread notifications
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rawhide report: 20150925 changes

2015-09-25 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Fri Sep 25 05:15:03 UTC 2015 Broken deps for i386 -- [IQmol] IQmol-2.3.0-9.fc24.i686 requires libboost_serialization.so.1.58.0 IQmol-2.3.0-9.fc24.i686 requires libboost_iostreams.so.1.58.0 IQmol-2.3.0

mizdebsk set the koschei monitoring flag of perl-Number-Compare to True

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mizdebsk set the koschei monitoring flag of perl-Number-Tolerant to True

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Use the 'users' list for non-dev questions (was: Re: Mounting a Samsung S5 phone for reading)

2015-09-25 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
Please use the 'users' list for non-development questions. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming and virtualization blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com Fedora Windows cross-c

mizdebsk set the koschei monitoring flag of perl-MooseX-Traits-Pluggable to True

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mizdebsk set the koschei monitoring flag of perl-MooseX-Types-DateTime-MoreCoercions to True

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Re: Removing packages that have broken dependencies in F23 tree

2015-09-25 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 04:34:11PM +0200, Kalev Lember wrote: > mariadb-galera rohara, hhorak [I'm not a maintainer of this one, except that I did the initial port of galera to aarch64.] The error is: [mariadb-galera] 1:mariadb-galera-server-10.0.17-5.fc23.armv7hl requires galera

Re: apitrace-libs.i686 missing in x86_64 repos

2015-09-25 Thread Mathieu Bridon
On Fri, 2015-09-25 at 13:03 +0200, Sandro Mani wrote: > Is there any other option short of introducing a dummy -devel > package? You could ask releng to add apitrace-libs to the multilib whitelist: https://pagure.io/mash/new_issue However, I have to wonder, why wouldn't the library have a -d

Re: apitrace-libs.i686 missing in x86_64 repos

2015-09-25 Thread Sandro Mani
On 25.09.2015 12:19, Mathieu Bridon wrote: On Fri, 2015-09-25 at 12:02 +0200, Sandro Mani wrote: Hello Got bug #1266181 filed about apitrace.i686 missing in the x86_64 repos. The reporter probably meant apitrace-libs.i686, which in the past was indeed installable on x86_64. Any ideas what the

Re: apitrace-libs.i686 missing in x86_64 repos

2015-09-25 Thread Mathieu Bridon
On Fri, 2015-09-25 at 12:02 +0200, Sandro Mani wrote: > Hello > > Got bug #1266181 filed about apitrace.i686 missing in the x86_64 > repos. > The reporter probably meant apitrace-libs.i686, which in the past was > indeed installable on x86_64. Any ideas what the reasons can be that > the package

apitrace-libs.i686 missing in x86_64 repos

2015-09-25 Thread Sandro Mani
Hello Got bug #1266181 filed about apitrace.i686 missing in the x86_64 repos. The reporter probably meant apitrace-libs.i686, which in the past was indeed installable on x86_64. Any ideas what the reasons can be that the package disappeared? Suppose something about the "mash" step, but that's

Koschei update

2015-09-25 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
I would like to announce that Koschei [1], a continous intagration system for Fedora packages, has just been updated to a new version, which includes several new features and fixes multiple bugs. Summary of most important user-visible changes follows. Group management has been improved. Users can

Re: Mounting a Samsung S5 phone for reading

2015-09-25 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
On 24/09/15 05:54 PM, Les Howell wrote: > On Thu, 2015-09-24 at 14:59 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: >> This isn't the right place to be asking this question. The users >> list >> or IRC would be better. >> >> On 09/24/2015 02:35 PM, Les Howell wrote: >>> On Thu, 2015-09-24 at 14:07 -0700, Samuel Sieb