Re: Orphaning some Java packages

2018-09-25 Thread Raphael Groner
>> Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: >> >> This is exactly what I feared when the modules were first proposed: >> essential packages moving to modules only. >> >> I think this is absolutely a step in the wrong direction. Things like "ant" >> are essential parts of a distribution. They cannot sit in some

Re: Orphaning some Java packages

2018-09-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > I'm in the process of transitioning maintenance of all software to > modules only. The reason is that module maintenance is much easier > compared to maintenance of non-modular, "ursine" packages. Starting from > Fedora 29 modules are first-class citizens, so I am finally

Re: Semi-serious proposal: drop all optional entries from comps

2018-09-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Stephen Gallagher wrote: > That used to be true, but with Recommends these days, it's considerably > less so. Not really, because of: https://github.com/openSUSE/libsolv/issues/168 (which libsolv upstream sadly does not consider a bug). Kevin Kofler ___

Re: Proposal: Add release announcement post to Go/No-Go criteria

2018-09-25 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 04:35:09PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > With today's Beta release, the release announcement post for Fedora > Magazine was not ready. As a result, the announcement went out a > little late and then only due to a drop-everything effort (thanks, > stickster!). We have a proposal

Re: Proposal: Add release announcement post to Go/No-Go criteria

2018-09-25 Thread Jared K. Smith
On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 4:44 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > We have a proposal to add a fourth criterion for the > Go/No-Go decision, beginning with F29 Final: > > 4. The release announcement post for Fedora Magazine is substantially > complete > I'm torn on this one... I think the release announcement

Re: Fedora for Web Development fail

2018-09-25 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 8:18 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > - Is running a lightweight local VM for web development a usecase we want to > support? Is it dare I ask important? In ancient times I just ran a local httpd instance. VM seems heavy weight for this, but yes it should totally work, albeit u

Re: [HEADS UP] Meson 0.48.0

2018-09-25 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 8:43 AM Igor Gnatenko wrote: > > Hello folks, > > new meson release is out (release notes) which removes tools which are > deprecated for quite long time: > * mesonconf > * mesonintrospect > * mesontest > * wraptool > > I will push it now for Rawhide and F29. F28 and EPEL7

Re: Fedora for Web Development fail

2018-09-25 Thread Randy Barlow
On Tue, 2018-09-25 at 23:38 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > https://developer.fedoraproject.org/tools/vagrant/about.html Oh nice, I hadn't seen these docs before. Thanks for sharing! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ d

Re: Proposal: Add release announcement post to Go/No-Go criteria

2018-09-25 Thread Eduard Lucena
In fact, and I'm going to take the fault on this, mattdm beta release announcement in the RedHat portal[1] is so awesome, that makes look the one on the Fedora Magazine like a robotic template. Because change set doesn't provide context on why X or Y feature is good or awesome. [1] https://www.red

Re: Fedora for Web Development fail

2018-09-25 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 25.9.2018 23:25, Josh Boyer wrote: On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 4:46 PM Randy Barlow wrote: On Tue, 2018-09-25 at 14:18 +, Máirín Duffy wrote: - Is running a lightweight local VM for web development a usecase we want to support? Is it dare I ask important? - If so, is what I ended up settin

Re: Proposal: Add release announcement post to Go/No-Go criteria

2018-09-25 Thread Eduard Lucena
Basically, the issue on the announcement is that is tight to the Talking Points, and almost any team is helping us with that. The Marketing task is to collect the Talking Points, not to create them, because we aren't the people that work on the new features and the stuff that make the release aweso

Re: Fedora for Web Development fail

2018-09-25 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 4:46 PM Randy Barlow wrote: > > On Tue, 2018-09-25 at 14:18 +, Máirín Duffy wrote: > > - Is running a lightweight local VM for web development a usecase we > > want to support? Is it dare I ask important? > > - If so, is what I ended up setting up what we want people in

Re: Fedora for Web Development fail

2018-09-25 Thread Randy Barlow
On Tue, 2018-09-25 at 16:45 -0400, Randy Barlow wrote: > And here are instructions that describe what it's like for a > developer > to use it: > https://github.com/fedora-infra/bodhi/blob/3.10.0/docs/developer/vagrant.rst Here is a rendered version of that pag https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/doc

Re: Proposal: Add release announcement post to Go/No-Go criteria

2018-09-25 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 09/25/2018 01:35 PM, Ben Cotton wrote: > With today's Beta release, the release announcement post for Fedora > Magazine was not ready. As a result, the announcement went out a > little late and then only due to a drop-everything effort (thanks, > stickster!). We have a proposal to add a fourth c

Re: Fedora for Web Development fail

2018-09-25 Thread Randy Barlow
On Tue, 2018-09-25 at 14:18 +, Máirín Duffy wrote: > - Is running a lightweight local VM for web development a usecase we > want to support? Is it dare I ask important? > - If so, is what I ended up setting up what we want people in that > usecase to do? (E.g. use Fedora cloud base image, set u

Proposal: Add release announcement post to Go/No-Go criteria

2018-09-25 Thread Ben Cotton
With today's Beta release, the release announcement post for Fedora Magazine was not ready. As a result, the announcement went out a little late and then only due to a drop-everything effort (thanks, stickster!). We have a proposal to add a fourth criterion for the Go/No-Go decision, beginning with

Re: Changes in packages workflow vs. modular Fedora

2018-09-25 Thread Petr Šabata
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 12:45:59PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 17.9.2018 12:36, Petr Šabata wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 11:07:50PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > > > d) (this example is not real (yet)) We decide to retire (remove) > > > > > python2-sphinx because upstream Sphinx no lon

Fedora Atomic Host Two Week Release Announcement: 28.20180923.0

2018-09-25 Thread noreply
A new Fedora Atomic Host update is available via an OSTree update: Version: 28.20180923.0 Commit(x86_64): 8b82902a0ca203645e9e288b8a0bbf9fe525749ec67cd674e6715daa64e5b7dd Commit(aarch64): 9303c782b619bfeccfc8b0fb86a16ebf40b48c7c65e08d16c999b1618fd8b417 Commit(ppc64le): d789fe23cb4bba0d5d24fd345

Re: Fedora for Web Development fail

2018-09-25 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno mar 25 set 2018 alle 16:18, =?iso-8859-1?b?TeFpcu1u?= Duffy ha scritto: [1] Note I used virt-manager bc other webdevs I know use it and I'm familiar with using it for connecting to remote hypervisors which was a main thing I wanted to do. Happy to use Boxes if it allows that sin

Re: Fedora for Web Development fail

2018-09-25 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 10:54 AM Peter Robinson wrote: > > > * Máirín Duffy: > > > > > - Found out it's cloud-info stalling the boot. > > > > I think it's actually cloud-init. > > > > > - Yay I have a login prompt! What's the login info? Ga... > > > - Realize have to run virt-customize --unins

Re: Fedora for Web Development fail

2018-09-25 Thread Peter Robinson
> * Máirín Duffy: > > > - Found out it's cloud-info stalling the boot. > > I think it's actually cloud-init. > > > - Yay I have a login prompt! What's the login info? Ga... > > - Realize have to run virt-customize --uninstall cloud-init --root-password > > password:whatever --selinux-relabel -

Re: Fedora for Web Development fail

2018-09-25 Thread Florian Weimer
* Máirín Duffy: > - Found out it's cloud-info stalling the boot. I think it's actually cloud-init. > - Yay I have a login prompt! What's the login info? Ga... > - Realize have to run virt-customize --uninstall cloud-init --root-password > password:whatever --selinux-relabel -a theimage I h

[Test-Announce] Fedora 29 Beta Release Announcement

2018-09-25 Thread Mohan Boddu
Fedora 29 Beta Released -- We're excited to announce the release of Fedora 29 Beta. A short list of highlights: * Modularity for all. * The Workstation edition of Fedora 29 Beta features GNOME 3.30. * Fedora Atomic Workstation was rebranded as Fedora Silverblue.

Fedora for Web Development fail

2018-09-25 Thread Máirín Duffy
Hi fedora-devel, This morning I set out to set up a VM for web development for a project I've been working on so I could access my development environment from multiple locations / workstations without having to set it up again and again on different systems. I had a surprisingly difficult tim

GNOME 3.30.1 megaupdate

2018-09-25 Thread Kalev Lember
Hi all, It's 3.30.1 release this week and you all know the drill for megaupdates in Fedora :) We have f29-gnome tag for building and I'll collect all the builds that are tagged with f29-gnome and put them in Bodhi once everything is built. Kalev ___ de

Fedora Rawhide-20180924.n.2 compose check report

2018-09-25 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 7/132 (x86_64), 1/2 (arm) New failures (same test did not fail in Rawhide-20180919.n.0): ID: 285135 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_repository_nfs_graphical URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/285135 ID: 285142 Test: x86_64 S

Re: qpdf soname bump in rawhide to 21.2.1

2018-09-25 Thread Zdenek Dohnal
I'm sorry, it is only minor soname bump 21.0.1 -> 21.2.1, but I wasn't sure if dependent packages needs to rebuild, so I rather announced it and rebuilt dependent packages. On 9/25/18 1:44 AM, Elliott Sales de Andrade wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 at 09:52, Zdenek Dohnal