Re: KDE and GNOME Join Hands To Add Payments To Turn Flathub Into a Store for the Linux Desktop

Am 04.09.23 um 03:48 schrieb Ryan Bach via devel: Ryan Bach via devel wrote: First of all, as has been pointed out by others, the headline is misleading, since KDE and GNOME are not actually parties to the proposal and since the proposal was not even accepted. Secondly, IMHO, allowing

Re: Intent to orphan vpnc

Am 06.09.23 um 00:08 schrieb Christian Krause: Hello, vpnc is a VPN client which can be used with certain VPN devices: https://www.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/~massar/vpnc/ The last co-maintainer who actively maintained the package for the last few years

Re: Adding Passim as a Fedora 40 feature?

Hi Richard, Am 25.08.23 um 13:42 schrieb Richard Hughes: Hi all, I was thinking of adding Passim as a default-installed and default-enabled dep of fwupd in the Fedora 40 release. Before I create lots of unnecessary drama, is there any early feedback on what's described in

Re: An update on RHEL moving to issues.redhat.com

Am 15.09.23 um 07:43 schrieb Clement Verna: At the risk of being controversial and a voice of the minority, I think using GitHub would be beneficial for the Fedora project. In practice already most of packagers have to use GitHub to collaborate with upstream so it wouldn't  be a tool to

Re: Orphaning all my packages

Am 03.10.23 um 21:29 schrieb Simo Sorce: On Tue, 2023-10-03 at 20:55 +0200, Leon Fauster via devel wrote: Am 03.10.23 um 20:46 schrieb Sérgio Basto: On Tue, 2023-10-03 at 13:13 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: On Tue, Oct 3 2023 at 01:19:20 PM -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: Additionally *all

Re: Orphaning all my packages

Am 03.10.23 um 17:33 schrieb Todd Zullinger: Sérgio Basto wrote: On Tue, 2023-10-03 at 10:25 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: a project where the primary sponsor and downstream no longer provides source code freely and openly what you are talking about ? all RHEL Source are freely available on

Re: Orphaning all my packages

Am 03.10.23 um 20:46 schrieb Sérgio Basto: On Tue, 2023-10-03 at 13:13 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: On Tue, Oct 3 2023 at 01:19:20 PM -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: Additionally *all* of the code is fully available in git form on gitlab as part of CentOS Stream. We all know or should know that

Re: Orphaning all my packages

Am 03.10.23 um 20:23 schrieb Stephen Gallagher: On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 2:14 PM Michael Catanzaro wrote: On Tue, Oct 3 2023 at 01:19:20 PM -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: Additionally *all* of the code is fully available in git form on gitlab as part of CentOS Stream. We all know or should know

Re: Help running centpkg

Am 07.10.23 um 17:30 schrieb Stephen Smoogen: On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 at 10:50, stan via devel mailto:devel@lists.fedoraproject.org>> wrote: On Fri, 06 Oct 2023 16:05:25 - "Michael Dawson" mailto:midaw...@redhat.com>> wrote: > I'm trying to build >

Re: Dropping of sshd.socket unit

Am 17.08.23 um 20:14 schrieb Tomasz Torcz: On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 08:25:10AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering said: Yes, and if this is not what you want, then disable the ratelimit. That's what I am saying? It would be useful for systemd to have "cooldown

Re: Red Hat & Fedora -- largely stepping out of this ecosystem

Am 03.07.23 um 00:41 schrieb Michael Catanzaro: On Sun, Jul 2 2023 at 08:33:46 AM -0700, Carlos Rodriguez-Fernandez wrote: Hi Michael, We have been told repeatedly that "the source is there" in CentOS stream. The source for the next minor version is there. I can see the scenario that

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

Am 03.07.23 um 02:00 schrieb Michael Catanzaro: On Sun, Jul 2 2023 at 06:27:48 PM -0400, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: What about stuff that is too urgent to wait on Red Hat QA?  There have been vulnerabilities (such as CVE-2013-0156 and Log4Shell) for which unauthenticated, fully automated,

Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

Am 03.07.23 um 18:07 schrieb Simon de Vlieger: On 7/3/23 13:46, Ralf Corsépius wrote: It is the core of the problem esp. big US companies tend to ignore. May-be you guys are not aware of there are tendencies to legally prohibit such "cloud solutions" in many countries? It's generally not

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

Am 07.07.23 um 12:19 schrieb Richard W.M. Jones: On Thu, Jul 06, 2023 at 05:10:24PM +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote: Important process note: we are experimenting with using Fedora Discussion as part of the Changes process. Change announcements (like the one you are reading right now) will still be

Re: more distinct default bash prompt?

Am 08.07.23 um 22:44 schrieb Barry: On 8 Jul 2023, at 19:56, Kushal Das wrote: White background is a good choice for accessibility iirc. Isn’t is contrast that matters not any particular background? On the contrary it helps, a white background helps the human visual system to

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

Am 11.07.23 um 21:02 schrieb Chris Adams: Once upon a time, Mattia Verga said: Since RHEL is made out from Centos Stream and Centos Stream is made out from Fedora ELN, can't Alma and Rocky branch directly from Fedora? Can we collaborate in some way with those communities so that we support

Re: [Question] how to make Fedora linux os ?

Am 16.07.23 um 21:24 schrieb Christopher: On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 7:30 AM Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: Miao, Jun wrote: Hi Guys, First of all, we are not all guys. (I happen to be one though.) I would advise not to get too picky about this. The term "guys" isn't necessarily

Re: more distinct default bash prompt?

Should this also take into account some common individual prompts? We have for instance /usr/share/git-core/contrib/completion/git-prompt.sh sourced. Maybe a form of compat for such wide used customisations? Thought ... ___ devel mailing list --

Re: LibreOffice packages

Is the Fedora OCI flatpak approach not about the trust into the chain of flatpak creation? src -> signed rpm -> flatpak? So, even in an ideal world where RHEL is immutable and the best workstation experience is based on flatpaks - RPMs are the building block. This is completly different to the

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Enable fwupd-refresh.timer by default on IoT, CoreOS & Server Editions (Self-Contained)

Am 26.07.23 um 18:00 schrieb Chris Adams: Once upon a time, Solomon Peachy said: None of the other SSDs I have deployed (Samsung and Crucual SATA) are updatable via LVFS, unfortunately. But, hilariously, both Samsung and Crucial's official updaters appear to be self-contained linux ISOs. So

Re: Restricting automounting of uncommon filesystems?

Am 23.07.23 um 09:35 schrieb Vitaly Zaitsev via devel: On 22/07/2023 08:01, Matthew Garrett wrote: 1) Automounting of removable media exposes the kernel to a lot of untrusted input Disable automatic mount by default. Problem solved. We use a whitelist approach here based on usbguard

Re: Potential (security) issue for beginners/non-experts when release is End Of Life: Fedora doesn’t consider the behavior of beginners/non-experts sufficiently

Am 11.08.23 um 17:59 schrieb Michael Catanzaro: On Fri, Aug 11 2023 at 02:24:22 PM +, Christopher Klooz wrote: First of all, I don’t use my Fedora installations until their end of life, so I don’t know if we have any means in place that shall make users aware once their release reaches

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

> I will also point out that CentOS Stream is perfectly suitable for > production use, and I would argue it provides a differentiated Nope, its not perfect for production use. Just an example of _many_: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2184640 Despite the fact that some critical

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

I do have packages on a RHEL9 system that do not appear in https://kojihub.stream.centos.org/koji/ - so the fix is unknown from an external view ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: What is Fedora?

https://access.redhat.com/security/updates/backporting/ ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: What is Fedora?

Yep! I (We) spend a lot of unpaid time to provide EL bug reports, helping the devs to test their fixes, until it gets into the next EL minor release. Especially when a new major EL release is GA, it has a lot of bugs that I normally do report (doing it since EL5 personally). This is sometimes

Re: What is Fedora?

> 3) So what happened? > > - CentOS Engineers will not be producing that git repo of exploded SRPMs > anymore because there is no need for them in CentOS project. > > - Red Hat recommends to take RHEL sources from CentOS Stream > repositories because that is the actual source from which RHEL

Re: Red Hat & Fedora -- largely stepping out of this ecosystem

Am 29.06.23 um 17:49 schrieb Carlos O'Donell: On 6/26/23 18:47, Jeff Law wrote: What Red Hat has done may be technically legal and perhaps good for its business. However, to me it's ethically unconscionable. Those who know me know I'm not an zealot, but I do have a baseline set of ethical

Re: Red Hat & Fedora -- largely stepping out of this ecosystem

Am 30.06.23 um 16:05 schrieb Sérgio Basto: On Thu, 2023-06-29 at 23:57 +, Piotr Szubiakowski wrote: Hey! On Thu, 2023-06-29 at 19:12 +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote: On 6/26/23 18:47, Jeff Law wrote: What Red Hat has done may be technically legal and perhaps good for its business.

Re: Red Hat & Fedora -- largely stepping out of this ecosystem

Am 30.06.23 um 15:41 schrieb Leslie Satenstein via devel: What should I do, if the person I gave the software to, removes my copyright, rebrands the software and sells my software as their own? Is it right? And when I release a bug fix, they take it, insert the fix into the

Re: Orphaning packages (was LibreOffice packages)

Am 01.07.23 um 14:28 schrieb Peter Robinson: On Sat, Jul 1, 2023 at 12:50 PM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: On 01/07/2023 13:36, Chris Adams wrote: A lot of the corporate world has gone to the "cloud" don't have to worry about local backups of important documents and spreadsheets, they

Re: F40 Change Proposal: Wifi MAC Randomization (System Wide)

Am 24.12.23 um 15:03 schrieb Robert Nichols: On 12/23/23 16:40, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Christopher Klooz writes: Btw, does anyone know if this (in the practically-same manner) is really already introduced in Windows, Mac, Android by default? Globally? This Most recent Android phones, and

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

Am 01.02.24 um 14:18 schrieb Sérgio Basto: The problem is not KDE SIG not support X11, the problem is KDE SIG want drop X11 and force user to use wayland . Looking from the side I wonder If its the SIG or more the circumstances that everything is in a forward flow and the SIG is facing it.

Re: Mounting USB Storage devices with "sync" option ?

Am 31.01.24 um 09:57 schrieb Larina Loriasel via devel: 'sync' has some strong downsides though: various operations become painfully slow (this depends a lot on the hardware and its age, and the history of previous writes, etc.), write operations block read operations, and the total number of

Re: DNF5: Checking signatures of packages installed out of a repository?

Am 14.11.23 um 22:04 schrieb Christopher: On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 9:30 AM Michael Catanzaro wrote: On Tue, Nov 14 2023 at 08:16:39 AM -0500, Christopher wrote: I think for the sake of security, it'd be better if this were on by default, and you just had to specify the --nogpgcheck For

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: petersen / Pandoc package not updated since June 2023: Security vulnerability, CVE-2023-35936 (medium)

Am 01.03.24 um 07:55 schrieb Jens-Ulrik Petersen: On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 8:05 PM Christopher Klooz > wrote: __ The package "pandoc" remains at 3.1.3 in Fedora, but pandoc is already at 3.1.11.1. Among the updates since 3.1.3, there have been two

Re: xz backdoor

Am 31.03.24 um 21:33 schrieb Sandro: On 31-03-2024 20:54, Christopher Klooz wrote: On 31/03/2024 20.52, Christopher Klooz wrote: On 31/03/2024 20.21, Michael Catanzaro wrote: On Sun, Mar 31 2024 at 09:56:04 AM -05:00:00, Michael Catanzaro wrote: I'm really frustrated with our communication

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

Am 03.04.24 um 20:56 schrieb Adam Williamson: On Wed, 2024-04-03 at 20:24 +0200, Marc Deop i Argemí wrote: Let's assume that we all agree with what you stated ( and I personally partly do). Why do we promote Workstation (with Gnome) over any other alternative that might arise? (in this case,

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

Am 02.04.24 um 23:32 schrieb Adam Williamson: On Tue, 2024-04-02 at 17:37 -0300, Sergio Belkin wrote: I am a happy KDE user, since the good old days of version 1.0. I celebrate this decision! My recognition goes to the enormous and sustained work of the entire KDE community. Cheers, Sergiio

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

Am 04.04.24 um 00:44 schrieb Kevin Kofler via devel: Leon Fauster via devel wrote: I already had RHL installed on a Sun IPX with Gnome, so I'm biased. Interesting that you were not put off by the changes that have happened to GNOME since the old RHL days. I tried GNOME 1 at one point long ago

Re: convert everything to rpmautospec?

Am 07.04.24 um 17:15 schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: Hi everyone, I'm revisting the topic of rpmautospec because I was doing some work on various packages, and it's annoying that some packages are using rpmautospec and others are not. All my packages have been converted, so in day-to-day

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

Am 05.04.24 um 12:20 schrieb Vít Ondruch: Dne 04. 04. 24 v 17:32 Kevin Kofler via devel napsal(a): Neal Gompa wrote: By default, GNOME only presents the close window button. The other buttons are missing, and there isn't really an intuitive way to discover the other window management actions.

Re: convert everything to rpmautospec?

Am 08.04.24 um 20:12 schrieb Michel Lind: (this might require coordination with RH's Leapp developers and AlmaLinux's ELevate developers, to make sure those support upgrading to lower NEVRAs too) Would have a major EL release have a lower package NEVRA? Mmmh, how many fedora releases

Re: convert everything to rpmautospec?

Am 08.04.24 um 22:22 schrieb Michel Lind: On Mon, Apr 08, 2024 at 08:47:20PM +0200, Leon Fauster via devel wrote: Am 08.04.24 um 20:12 schrieb Michel Lind: (this might require coordination with RH's Leapp developers and AlmaLinux's ELevate developers, to make sure those support

Re: Switching XZ for ZSTD?

Am 04.04.24 um 19:23 schrieb Kevin Fenzi: On Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 01:26:14PM +, Arnie T via devel wrote: Hi, I just installed Fedora on 2 of my PCs a couple of weeks ago. One version of Fedora 39 release and one of Fedora 40 to see where things are going. I learned about this XZ-hack

Re: Redis will no longer be OSS... now what?

Am 17.04.24 um 15:59 schrieb Jonathan Wright via devel: Valley 7.2.5 stable was released yesterday.  Builds are in Bodhi and ready for testing/feedback. https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?search=valkey-7.2.5-1 Thanks

Re: Redis will no longer be OSS... now what?

Am 17.04.24 um 16:44 schrieb Jonathan Wright: On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 9:43 AM Leon Fauster via devel mailto:devel@lists.fedoraproject.org>> wrote: Am 17.04.24 um 15:59 schrieb Jonathan Wright via devel: > Valley 7.2.5 stable was released yesterday.  Builds are

Re: Multiple account problem

Am 19.04.24 um 18:28 schrieb Steve Grubb: Hello, I have run into an issue on F39 that I wanted to ask about. I decided that I wanted to develop an application on github from another account to simplify which keys are being used. I created the user acct and used "su - myacct" to login to it. I

Re: convert everything to rpmautospec?

Am 08.04.24 um 08:01 schrieb Miro Hrončok: On 08. 04. 24 6:08, Carlos Rodriguez-Fernandez wrote: Not all commits correspond with a new release downstream, and not all commit messages are relevant to the end user to be part of the change log. For example, commits related with increasing

Re: mdadm Update in Rawhide

Am 08.05.24 um 22:44 schrieb Jonathan Wright via devel: I was having trouble finding the public key(s).  I'll look more into this now. They sign the tar archive before it is compressed, so I'll have to stray from the standard way of verifying the sigs in the docs a little. Here is an

Re: Mass Package Change: Turn deprecated %patchN syntax into %patch -PN

Am 06.05.24 um 13:56 schrieb Florian Festi: Hi everyone, RPM has deprecated the %patchN syntax in favor of %patch -PN where N is the patch number for a year now. See the RPM documentation for more information [1]. In current RPM versions, this syntax only emits a deprecation warning, but

Re: Spec file using github repo - not tarball

Am 09.05.24 um 17:21 schrieb Nico Kadel-Garcia: On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 4:36 PM Kenneth Goldman wrote: Is it possible for a .spec file to clone a github.com repo rather than download a tarball? Can someone link to a working example? Git clones are bulky, with the entire history of a project

Re: Mass Package Change: Turn deprecated %patchN syntax into %patch -PN

Am 08.05.24 um 00:22 schrieb Kevin Kofler via devel: Neal Gompa wrote: On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 8:17 AM Leon Fauster via devel wrote: Am 06.05.24 um 13:56 schrieb Florian Festi: Hi everyone, RPM has deprecated the %patchN syntax in favor of %patch -PN where N is the patch number for a year

Re: Firefox 126.0 with DBus service

Am 15.05.24 um 14:11 schrieb Tom Hughes via devel: On 15/05/2024 13:06, Michael J Gruber wrote: Is this used by Gnome search unconditionally? I might want to use Gnome but not a background indexer/tracker/search engine. Threw me off back then when KDE introcuced something like that. Go to

go apps / imports of stlib / does rpm as a mechanisms to provide such infos

IIRC, go applications with vendored modules/go-packages, if rpm-packaged carefully, do provide go-package dependency information via the rpm-provides tag for vendored packages. I wonder about "imports" of golang's stdlib go-packages. Usecase: go.dev releases a new golang version because an