On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 08:17:57 -0500 Steve Dickson wrote:
> [Bug 559312] thunderbird corrupts mail indices (Old mail marked as
> new) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=559312
This happened today to a colleague of mine. I suggested him to remove
~/.thunderbird/*.default/ImapMail/*/*.msf whi
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 01:58:41 +0200 Lennart Poettering wrote:
> We shifted a few files around and most likely your
> /etc/systemd/system/default.target link will now point into the void,
> in case anaconda wrote it.
That's unfortunate, especially because people upgrading from Alpha will
hit this pr
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 12:32:21 +0200 Michal Schmidt wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 01:58:41 +0200 Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > We shifted a few files around and most likely your
> > /etc/systemd/system/default.target link will now point into the
> > void, in case anaconda
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:44:47 +0200 Morten P.D. Stevens wrote:
> Does anyone know something about this issue?
>[...]
> ===
> [ INFO: suspicious rcu_dereference_check() usage. ]
> ---
> kernel/sched.c:616
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 11:53:51 -0400 Brandon Lozza wrote:
> If I have to wait for the next release of Fedora (14 for example) to
> get KDE 4.5 then it's looking like the stable updates vision has made
> Fedora incompatible with what I need.
KDE 4.5 has not been released to updates because it has kno
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:43:06 +0200 Jiri Moskovcak wrote:
> If I remember it correctly there use to be a word "Rawhide" in
> /etc/fedora-release which ABRT use to determine is it's rawhide. So
> now, when it's obviously gone, what is the right way to determine if
> the release is rawhide?
fedora-r
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:07:05 -0500 Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> My questiomn is it better to use requires on syslinux for F13 (and
> maybe F12) and syslinux-extlinux going forward or should I
> require /sbin/extlinux allowing the same spec file to be used on F13
> as on F14+ and take the hit of having
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 17:14:28 -0600 Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:45:11 +0200
> Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> >
> > Ok - that's one problem - we sucks in selective updates and
> > information for users.
> >
> > Other could be - change release scheme:
> > 1. very similar to current one - r
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:07:02 +0200 Marek Kasik wrote:
> I plan to update update poppler in rawhide (Fedora 15) to new
> development version 0.15 next week (at Monday, October 4th). Changes
> against 0.14.x are:
> [...]
> Please check whether your package builds against this new version of
> poppler
On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 14:04:00 +0200 Patrick MONNERAT wrote:
> Until now (with upstart), my rawhide system started the network
> service but not the NetworkManager service.
> With systemd, neither of these are started by default.
You may be seeing https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630225 o
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 22:20:31 +0200 Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Michal Schmidt wrote:
> > Is poppler_page_get_selected_text() the correct replacement for the
> > old poppler_page_get_text() ?
>
> Yes, but you also need to change the y coordinates, see:
> http://cgit.freedes
On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 12:47:50 +0100 Richard Hughes wrote:
> Could someone please review this package please:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=631763
>
> I need it as a dependency in the next version of PackageKit. I can
> bribe with beer if required. Thanks.
I've taken it for review.
M
On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 09:51:31 +0100 Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> F14 seems to have acquired a misfeature where if you mistype a command
> or a command is not found, it prints "Command not found." then pauses
> for some time, then (sometimes, not always) displays some sort of
> error[1].
>
> How do I
On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 11:24:30 -0400 Brandon Lozza wrote:
> Firefox doesn't just include source code. It includes intellectual
> property with specific restrictions on what you're allowed to do with
> it.
Did you use the term "intellectual property" in your query to Richard
too? :-)
http://www.gnu.or
On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 15:26:59 +0200 Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 10/06/2010 02:49 PM, Matej Cepl wrote:
> > Nonsense, trademarks exists to protect users and to avoid living off
> > somebody else brand recognition.
>
> I disagree - trademarks exist to protect the manufacturer from
> loosing profits be
On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 01:21:03 -0400 Jon Masters wrote:
> It would seem that systemd employs some kind of arbitrary timeout (30
> seconds?)
60 s
> Certain services, such as kdump.service might require some time to
> recreate their initramfs and will thus never be able to start normally
> (I'm very
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 12:50:00 -0600 Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:19:08 +0200
> Michal Schmidt wrote:
> > In the policy I do not see as clear distinction between F(n)
> > (current stable) and F(n-1) (old stable) as Jaroslav proposes. The
> > closest to it is
On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:43:16 -0400 Brandon Lozza wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 6:17 AM, Michal Schmidt wrote:
>
> > - remove any features
>
> > Michal
>
>
> How do you guys update Gnome then? ;)
Perhaps you're confusing me with someone else. I have noth
On 07/19/2011 10:23 AM, Lucas wrote:
> Right now systemd can't boot my system up, it hangs everything.
You're hitting a kernel bug, don't blame systemd.
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On 07/19/2011 07:59 PM, Fulko Hew wrote:
> From what I understand, I will now have to provide some systemd
> application that is coded in C?
No. You'll just provide a unit file, which is a few lines
human-understandable INI-like configuration file.
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On 07/20/2011 03:49 PM, Kostas Georgiou wrote:
> This way the copied unit file never gets updated if the original one is
> updated, with the old sysv scripts you could do an ln -s foo newfoo
> and get the updates.
You can use:
.include /the/original/unit/file
and only override the specific optio
On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 19:48:29 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote:
> and the same guy who pushed "pulseaudio" in a total unuseable state
> to fedora instead finish his work and push it after that does is
> the maintainer of systemd - so maybe if we would not have the
> expierience how long it takes until the
On 09/15/2011 05:54 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 09/15/2011 09:42 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>> On 09/15/2011 05:25 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>>> Anyway, some more figures: On the same machine, bootup times when
>>> booting from a (slow) external (IDE) USB2 HD:
>>> - Fedora 15/i386: ca. 1
On 09/15/2011 01:11 AM, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> EOL of Fedora 15 is more than 6 months, and shouldn't have a beta
> release of systemd, if systemd enter in a early stage in Fedora 15 ,
> should be upgradeable ... ( I think). So what is the point in have a
> early stage of a software, if we don't upda
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 08:48:16 -0500 Richard Shaw wrote:
> I just took over the akmods package at RPM Fusion and one of the many
> BZ requests is to convert it to systemd.
>
> The current suggestion is:
> [Unit]
> Description=Builds and install new kmods from akmod packages
> After=syslog.target
> B
On 09/26/2011 04:40 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> Your Fedora Account System account password
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/
>
> is it OK to register here only for the use of "easy-karma" because
> i have a testerver-virtual-machine and would like to help pushing
> packages from updates-s
On 09/26/2011 05:18 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> today installed the new systemd-build which addresses the
> issue of no progress while fsck at boot and did not find
> a way to add karma directly on koji (maybe this should
> be directly possible there)
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?b
On 10/05/2011 12:18 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 04.10.11 15:02, Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) wrote:
>> I have a similar problem with some bind mounts over the root filesystem
>> where systemd mounts them while the rootfs is still ro and hence they
>> all wind up as ro until I remount th
On 11/03/2011 03:10 PM, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY wrote:
> In order to work on, e.g. RHEL6 in addition to Fedora, the old init
> script has:
> ...
> vercmd="from distutils.sysconfig import get_python_lib; print
> get_python_lib()"
> py_dir=$(python -c "${vercmd}")
> exe="${py_dir}/hekafsd.py"
But the path
On 11/02/2011 12:25 PM, JB wrote:
> I experience random shutdown delays of ca. 2 min (testing F16 RC1 thru
> RC4, hd installation with LXDE).
...
> What else can I look at or debug and how ?
Please boot with:
log_buf_len=1M systemd.log_level=debug systemd.log_target=kmsg
Create an executable sc
On 11/03/2011 04:47 PM, JB wrote:
> Here you go:
>
> http://pastebin.com/EHTiuiR8
The parameters "log_buf_len=1M systemd.log_level=debug
systemd.log_target=kmsg" were not on the command line, so this log does
not contain all the information.
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On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 17:21:08 + (UTC) JB wrote:
> http://pastebin.com/QsD9LDxb
This log shows no excessive delay during shutdown.
systemd was asked to power off here:
[ 979.583227] systemd[1]: Got D-Bus request:
org.freedesktop.systemd1.Manager.StartUnit() on /org/freedesktop/systemd1
[ 979.
On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 18:39:25 + (UTC) JB wrote:
> I see these NetworkManager activities that are repeated and seem to be
> identical (if this is a problem, then systemd or NetworkManager
> related ?):
That looks like some kind of a logging oddity, where the same messages
reach the kmsg buffer tw
On 11/04/2011 05:06 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> Am 04.11.2011 16:37, schrieb Lennart Poettering:
>> nslookup will only work for unicast DNS names, and hence will bypass any
>> mDNS lookups.
>
> as you see "nslookup" does not bypass, it resolves
> so what component and how to tell leave my configura
On 11/04/2011 06:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> well, everytime i come in contact with anything from apple i could throw
> something out of the window beginning with the "systemctl ACTION service"
> instead "systemctl SERVICE action" while i laughed over years about apples
> order of this in their
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 17:34:39 -0500 Ian Pilcher wrote:
> On 03/29/2011 03:01 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > Can you paste the kmsg context of the starting please?
>
> [ 42.087581] systemd[1]: Got D-Bus activation request for
> bluetooth.service
The bluez D-Bus service activates bluetooth.serv
On 04/14/2011 11:14 AM, Michal Hlavinka wrote:
> d) split it to more service files and make dependency there
>
> this would be incompatible change in configuration and hard to do,
Hard maybe, but solvable. Incompatibility happens from time to time.
That's what release notes are for.
I can imagine
On 05/09/2011 05:02 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
> Ok, I know what is happening. I looked at the init script and I
> realized that it doesn't have any LSB header info about boot process
> order. I also looked at other services and here are some of them that
> needs fixing:
> - memcached - (I create
On Thu, 12 May 2011 15:28:54 +0200 Michal Hlavinka wrote:
> 1) does systemd support alternative to "service sthd configtest" or
> other special actions?
No.
> 2) does systemd have support for conditions in service files? It seem
> it's not supported right now. Is there any plan for this?
Can you
On 05/20/2011 06:00 AM, Chuck Ebbert wrote:
> And you're going to go about it by removing something that people have
> been using for many years, replacing it with a vague promise of a
> better solution.
The ability to run programs before shutdown has not been removed.
Looks like you missed all t
On 06/10/2011 03:07 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
> I understand your desire to replace everything by systemd.
> I really do. syslogd, klogd, mount, fsck, and a dozen other things
> I forget or don't know.
You're exaggerating.
> Why does systemd link against libpam?
> systemd does logins now, not /bi
On 06/10/2011 03:59 PM, Steve Clark wrote:
> On 06/10/2011 09:36 AM, Michal Schmidt wrote:
>> systemd does not take the system down when it crashes. It catches the
>> signal, dumps core and freezes, but does not exit.
>> ^^^
> So you just end
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 15:55:14 -0400 Adam Jackson wrote:
> Domain KindDetailCount Allocated size
> - --- --- --
> uncategorized 2064 bytes5,370 11,083,680
Probably the SELinux file labelling da
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 23:23:30 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote:
> * now see screenshot
That's probably
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=709681
> * WTF is there to relabel if started with "selinux=0"-kernel-param
Although fedora-autorelabel.service is there, it does not imply that
anything is
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 00:16:00 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote:
> [Sun Jun 12 23:30:40 2011] [error] (2)No such file or directory:
> could not create /var/run/httpd/httpd.pid [Sun Jun 12 23:30:40 2011]
> [error] httpd: could not log pid to file /var/run/httpd/httpd.pid
>
> well this is the F14 build of Ap
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 02:42:15 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote:
> and why does it STOP the boot-process at a point no network is
> available?
Mounts from /etc/fstab are considered required unless they are marked
with the "nofail" option.
> why does it start the relabel service i never see with selinux=0
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 02:44:36 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote:
> but it shows that the widely use of "systemd" is too soon because
> this crap has to say "FAILED" and not "OK" in this case!
Apparently the httpd initscript returned with exit code 0.
A service can fail after starting successfully.
Michal
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:42:11 +0200 Denys Vlasenko wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 15:36 +0200, Michal Schmidt wrote:
> > > Why does systemd link against libpam?
> > > systemd does logins now, not /bin/login or gdm or ...?
> >
> > to implement PAMName= (man systemd
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 03:01:19 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote:
> Am 13.06.2011 02:56, schrieb Michal Schmidt:
> > On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 02:42:15 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote:
> >> and why does it STOP the boot-process at a point no network is
> >> available?
> >
> >
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 22:14:27 -0400 Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
> Having a quick look at the link and at the steps to reproduce the bug
> gave me shivers. Are we really sure that systemd is ready? I mean, I
> don't even call my code "alpha" if it can't parse a slash correctly.
Strictly speaking, it parses
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 09:08:02 +0200 Kevin Kofler wrote:
> How is it systemd's fault that the user's fstab is invalid?
A trailing slash in the mountpoint is not too common, but valid.
Michal
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Stop the profanities and insults, or stop posting to this mailing
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On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 11:26:46 +0400 Lucas wrote:
> Have you notice that they use Fedora like a toy, to play with, to
> test a new ideas, to try new things on it. Developers do not count it
> like anything serious - it is a toy for them. Today they decided that
> upstart is wrong and they need system
On 06/16/2011 11:20 AM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> nfs mounted local repo from an attached NAS.
> (supplies a number of boxes)
> yum-updateonboot used to update on boot. (sans rhgb quiet)
>
> In level 3, login prompt appears before update finished.
> level 5 --ditto--
>
> The only way currently to know
On 06/16/2011 12:49 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> [Service]
>> Type=fork
Type=
Configures the process start-up type for this service unit.
One of simple, forking, oneshot, dbus, notify.
Try "forking", not "fork"
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On 06/16/2011 01:07 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> you can see the master-porcess and a child shortly in ps aux but
> after a few seconds systemd changes to "deactivating (stop-sigterm)"
> and is killing the processes
...
> [root@testserver:/lib/systemd/system]$ systemctl status dbmail-imapd.service
>
On 06/16/2011 01:41 PM, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
>dbmail is doing something confusing systemd.
Yes. Its startup sequence is wrong. It exits the original process
immediately after the first fork(), before it finishes initialization
and before the PID file is written.
Upstream should take a look a
On 06/17/2011 02:05 AM, Bob Arendt wrote:
> mpd forks and daemonizes itself, so the main pid dies.
There is a misunderstanding about what "main PID" means.
It is not the PID of the original process which forks and then exits. It
should be the PID of the process of the running daemon. The one that
On 06/17/2011 02:10 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> what happens here? - upstart is replaced by systemd
Is this bug 707717?
> i hope a hard-reset is not the solution for this
'sync && reboot -f' should work even in this case.
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On 06/17/2011 02:10 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> It works for a single boot,
> then removes itself from:
> /lib/systemd/system/systemd-user-sessions.service
The file will get overwritten when a systemd package update comes.
It's better to make a copy of it in /etc/systemd/system and edit that
instea
On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 10:19:46 +0100 Paul F. Johnson wrote:
> It seems that after yesterdays (5th July) mammoth rawhide update, that
> the cups daemon has vanished from /etc/init.d - any idea if this is
> just an oversight?
* Wed Jun 29 2011 Tim Waugh 1:1.5-0.9.rc1
- Ship systemd service unit inst
On 07/08/2011 03:57 PM, Steve Dickson wrote:
> On 07/08/2011 08:23 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>> So, I'd suggest strongly not to try starting all services from a single
>> file. There's a reason why we explicitly forbid having more than one
>> ExecStart= in a unit file (except for Type=oneshot s
On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 20:49:56 -0400 Steve Dickson wrote:
> Ok.. Now understand where my confusion is... Currently when one
> want to start the nfs server they type 'service nfs start' which
> calls a number of binaries and ultimately a system daemon.
We could achieve something similar with systemd
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 08:44:16 + (UTC) JB wrote:
> Let me take a shot at 2 examples of service files below.
> Are they correct setup-wise ?
> Will both examples be executed sequentially only ?
>
> 1.
>
> main-service-1.service:
> [Unit]
> Description=Main service 1
> Requires= ... sub-service-
On 07/11/2011 01:08 PM, JB wrote:
> Michal Schmidt redhat.com> writes:
>> First, sub-service-1.service and sub-service-2.service will be started
>> in parallel. When they're running, main-service-1.service will be
>> started by processing its ExecStart* commands seq
On 07/11/2011 10:46 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> the same problem with the logic "if there is a svcname.socket"
> you have to do "systemctl stop svcname.socket svcname.service"
> or systemd wil fire up it again if you do only
> "systemctl stop svcname"
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=
On 07/11/2011 02:56 PM, JB wrote:
>>> ExecStartPre= exec /etc/init.d/sub-service-1
> Note the 'exec' command, which means "Replace the shell with the given
> command." with immediate return.
> How does systemd know what's in the "/etc/init.d/sub-service-1" process, to be
> able to figure out if any
On 07/12/2011 10:42 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> in the real world processes like mysqld which are multi-threaded
> you can get a successfull return-code while the process is
> finishing his tasks which is my biggest problem with systemd
>
> the process itself knows that he is running fine, finish hi
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 10:04:13 +0100 Christoph Wickert wrote:
> This means that chainbuilds are no longer possible and this slows
> development down dramatically. Think of a feature like Xfce 4.8 with
> it's tight schedule [1]. E.g. we only have 8 days to build one of the
> pre-releases.
>
> When I
On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:41:44 -0500 Jon Masters wrote:
> I also suggest /considering/ implementing rolling updates rather than
> pushing everything to stable. By rolling updates, in this case I mean
> implementing a technical means (and this is tricky with mirrors) by
> which not every user will rec
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 03:43:23 +0530 Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> For the purpose of doing a RPM packaging workshop, I need a simple
> clear hello world type example using autotools. Can anyone point me to
> something suitable for the purpose?
You mean GNU hello? :-)
http://www.gnu.org/software/hello/
M
On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:45:39 -0700 John Reiser wrote:
> Then I did "rpm --erase" of -24 and "rpm --install" of -24, and the
> message was: -
> /sbin/new-kernel-pkg: line 289: 2334 Segmentation fault (core
> dumped)
Is it reproducible if you run dracut by hand?:
dracut -f -v /boot/initram
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:12:17 -0300 Casimiro de Almeida Barreto wrote:
> Hello,
>
> An intriguing problem happened. I use a notebook with FC12 usually in
> WiFi environment. It never failed to detect wireless lans. Then I
> plugged it to eth0. Ok, it detected eth0 but now wlan0 is disabled & I
> ge
On 11/12/2011 02:33 PM, Scott Schmit wrote:
> What package is that man page in?
>
> $ man 7 daemon
> No manual entry for daemon in section 7
>
> Also, a google search for "man 7 daemon", "daemon(7)", "daemon man
> page", "man daemon section 7", etc turns up nothing.
As others already pointed out,
On 11/21/2011 09:32 PM, Till Maas wrote:
> a recent kernel update[0] broke Fedora's ability to be a VirtualBox
> host, because asm/amd_iommu.h was removed.
This is a part of the in-kernel API, not the kernel<->userspace
interface. The internal API can change at any time.
External kernel modules
Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> Nope nothing odd with specifying Type=oneshot together with
> RemainAfterExit=yes
Well, it is really odd to spacify oneshot if the service is actually a daemon.
> # systemctl start tsm-client.service && systemctl status
> tsm-client.service && ps aux | grep dsmcad
On 01/23/2012 09:39 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
systemd 37 didn't have a problem booting. I suppose the
large number of errors slows udev start down so much that it hits some
kind of timeout in 38 that isn't in 37, maybe?
v38 introduced the journal and removed the old systemd-kmsg-syslogd
brid
On 01/24/2012 01:44 PM, mike cloaked wrote:
I've been doing this a while,
F16 yum --releasever=17 update --bugfixes --exclude=fedora-release*
How can the "--bugfixes" possibly work when there are no updates
metadata in Rawhide?
Michal
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On 01/24/2012 02:13 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
Fedora suffers an additional problem it seems - not only are there
large changes as part of many releases, but lately some of them
immediately stop being supported until the 'next big release' - which
makes fedora far less reliable and desirable -
On 01/24/2012 03:39 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
On 01/24/2012 09:08 AM, Michal Schmidt wrote:
On 01/24/2012 02:13 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
Fedora suffers an additional problem it seems - not only are there
large changes as part of many releases, but lately some of them
immediately stop
On 01/24/2012 04:53 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 24.01.2012 15:48, schrieb Rahul Sundaram:
You are ridding on thin ice here. systemd gets many many updates.
Claiming that it doesnt receive proper attention is very much
unsubstantiated. I think you should go back on this claim.
where are they
On 01/24/2012 05:17 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
when i see that services which was not converted to systemd
needs features which were not available with the systemd
of F15 this is a clear sign that systemd was NOT ready for
a GA release
That missing feature is "PathExistsGlob=", isn't it?
So the s
On 01/27/2012 02:10 PM, Harald Hoyer wrote:
SELinux relabelling should take effect after you rebooted your updated system
and can take a long time (at least in a VM it takes insanely long and is still
not finished). We are currently investigating, what seem to take so long, so you
might consider
On 01/27/2012 07:32 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
perhaps this change is wanted/needed by the new init system
No, systemd does not care.
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Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote:
> I need help adding systemd support into xrdp.
>
> someone can take a look and tell me what is wrong ?
Are you seeing any actual problems with the service?
I have not tried to run the service, but here's what comes
to mind:
- It is pointless to declare both
in A:
Bohuslav Kabrda wrote:
> And more importantly:
> "Distributions may install software in /opt, but must not modify or
> delete software installed by the local system administrator without
> the assent of the local system administrator."
Supposing that we allow Fedora packages to ship files in /opt,
Bohuslav Kabrda wrote:
> I see your point and I agree that it does make sense from this
> perspective. Still, I'd like to know what is behind this decision -
> why do we want to forbid this behaviour? Have any Fedora users run
> into problems with any software installing under /opt? Please give
> m
Marcela Mašláňová wrote:
> We are against forbidden installation path into /opt, because we are
> using it in our project - Dynamic Software Collections.
Thank you for mentioning this. At least now I have understanding of
the reasons behind the objections to the guideline.
Michal
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On 02/07/2012 03:50 PM, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote:
Ralf Corsepius wrote:
I am inclined to agree, but why would the Fedora project want to
do this and not to install to /usr?
That's precisely what the new "stack" or "scl" concept that Marcela
wrote about needs. We don't have a complete documentatio
Jerry James wrote:
> [root@jerry-rawhide32 ~]# poweroff
> UNIT LOAD ACTIVE SUB JOB DESCRIPTION
> proc-sys...misc.automount loaded active waiting Arbitrary
> Executable File
A bad systemd build due to a binutils bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=78810
Jerry James wrote:
> Thank you very much for the link. It'll be interesting to see if the
> man page problem is related.
You mean this error message?:
man: can't open /usr/share/man/halt.8: No such file or directory
No, that's not related to the binutils bug.
The error seems harmless, because it
Jerry James wrote:
> I'm not sure what you mean by that; "man poweroff" only shows the
> error message.
It worked for me. Perhaps because I had previously installed systemd
from sources and had a leftover manpage file where the man command
was able to find it.
> [...]
> I'll file a bug.
Thanks.
Vít Ondruch wrote:
> I did build from F17 and now I am trying submit update via Bodhi, but
> it
> fails apparently:
>
> $ fedpkg update
> Creating a new update for weechat-0.3.6-2.fc17
> Password for vondruch:
> Creating a new update for weechat-0.3.6-2.fc17
> weechat-0.3.6-2.fc17 not tagged as
Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> Let me put it this way: I am having difficulties in recalling any
> Fedora release which worked for me out of the box ...
>
> In earlier releases there for example were pulseaudio and SELinux, in
> current releases it's primarily systemd
What kind of problems in the out of
On 02/10/2012 05:53 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> [... issues after upgrades ...]
We fix them when we know about them.
c) Systemd doesn't seem to preserve existing activated services upon
update (I recall having to manually activate cron and rsyslog).
Not preserving the enablement state of serv
On 02/10/2012 06:33 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
It seems pretty common that updating systemd causes problems with the next
shutdown. I don't know why and it is a pain to reproduce since it doesn't
happen again on the next reboot.
Did you see the problem with updates within a stable Fedora releas
On 02/10/2012 06:32 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
systemd was explicitly written to be 100% sysv-compatible
Mostly compatible, but not 100%.
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Incompatibilities
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On 02/10/2012 06:55 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
mysqld in F15 worked only on baby-systems where nothing
other relies on mysqld but not on machines having tons
of services rely in a init-process who fires them up
after mysqld id reday for connections
I am aware of this mysqld-related bugreport of y
On 02/10/2012 07:00 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
The one-time case - 'the first time you go from systemd X to systemd Y,
the system won't shut down cleanly' - does seem to affect stable release
upgrades, yeah.
If anyone knows the values of X and Y where it's reproducible, please
let us know.
M
Alfredo Ferrari wrote:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753339
>
> ... and "reboot" is still not working on Fedora 16 on several
> machines...
It's not obvious whether systemd is to blame for this bug.
> do the systemd maintainers ever read bug reports BTW?
Of course. You have comm
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