Re: Rawhide should take turns with F-16 Branched

2011-08-01 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Aug 01, 2011 at 07:55:40AM -0700, John Reiser wrote: On 07/31/2011 01:37 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 3:22 PM, John Reiser jrei...@bitwagon.com wrote: The nightly build mash for Fedora-16 Branched should go first, before Rawhide, on a few days per week ... You

Re: Strange RPM versioning problem in qemu in Rawhide

2011-08-02 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Aug 02, 2011 at 12:31:15PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2011-08-02 at 21:24 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 11:58:08 -0700, AW (Adam) wrote: 0.2.20110718525e3df.fc16 0.2.2011072859fadcc.fc17 Split up into the elements that RPM compares,

Re: Strange RPM versioning problem in qemu in Rawhide

2011-08-03 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 11:10:42AM +0200, Nils Philippsen wrote: On Tue, 2011-08-02 at 12:12 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2011-08-02 at 11:58 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: Well, in this case yes, but this problem could emerge again in a case where there's no version bump that

Re: disttags from f16 on

2011-08-05 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 11:24:47AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: On Aug 4, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: right now they are el4-candidate el5-candidate el6-candidate using epel rather than el makes it much clearer. especially for those who do things on RHEL inside of Red

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (final warning)

2011-08-10 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Aug 08, 2011 at 10:18:48PM +0200, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: Hello there, It seems that guile-gnome-platform should be unblocked as well. Hello there, I wish to take ownership of gnusim8085 and gwave. Can you please grant me the Take Ownership for the respective devel branch

python-fedora package split

2011-08-10 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
This is a heads up for people packaging or using applications that depend on python-fedora. Currently, python-fedora is one package that contains code useful for both building clients that talk to Fedora Infrastructure Services and servers that run on Fedora Infrastructure (mainly CSRF protection

fusecompress needs new maintainers/comaintainers

2011-08-10 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
Greetings, For the past few release cycles I've been keeping fusecompress alive since I was using it on a box with limited HD space. Now that I no longer use that box, I don't use fusecompress anymore. The maintainer and other comaintainers of our fusecompress package are busy and have also

Re: python-fedora package split

2011-08-10 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 08:01:11PM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 10:51 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: For packagers, developers, and sysadmins needing python-fedora client code, this should mean you need to make no changes. yum install python-fedora or Requires

Re: To Require or not to Require?

2011-08-12 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 02:30:46PM +0200, Andreas Schwab wrote: Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com writes: The separate bar package still is entirely irrelevant It kills your entire argument. AFAICS, your insistance that it is a blocker means that you aren't seeing something correctly.

Re: To Require or not to Require?

2011-08-12 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 04:15:49PM +0200, Andreas Schwab wrote: Your whole argument is just void. There is not a single difference between external packages and (sub-)packages. Here's a couple differences: (libfoo-1.0 building subpackage foo-utils) is licensed LGPLv2 (libfoo-1.0.1 building

Re: To Require or not to Require?

2011-08-12 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 04:40:20PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 08:27:13AM -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Rightly or wrongly, upstream libfoo-1.0 has some additional utilities that access the PrivateData. Because the utilities are built from the libfoo source

Re: To Require or not to Require?

2011-08-12 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 05:28:56PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 05:25:17PM +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: Third party code built against -devel and depending only on the SONAME is fine in this situation as it sticks to the published ABI. In-tree code that plays

Re: question regarding Fedora packaging

2011-08-21 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 01:24:16PM +0200, Olivier Sallou wrote: Hi, I have a question regarding packaging for Fedora. I want to package an application that depends on jets3t. It is packaged in Jpackage. I see in fact that many Java packages are available in JPackage. What is the usual

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-22 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 12:45:40PM -0400, Tom Callaway wrote: On 08/18/2011 06:28 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 17.08.11 16:43, Tim Waugh (twa...@redhat.com) wrote: Oh, I just noticed this: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines:Systemd#Socket_activation Since

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-23 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 01:12:31PM +0200, drago01 wrote: On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Tom Callaway tcall...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/18/2011 06:28 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 17.08.11 16:43, Tim Waugh (twa...@redhat.com) wrote: Oh, I just noticed this:

Re: systemd not in critpath

2011-08-25 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 10:13:48PM -0700, Garrett Holmstrom wrote: Neither bodhi nor mash appears to consider systemd to be in the critical path. Why is this? Is that the way we want it to be? We should get that corrected. notting has ben promising to get a script that integrates with mash

Re: Java 7 for Fedora 16

2011-08-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 11:29:33AM -0400, Deepak Bhole wrote: Andrew Haley and I just had a chat about this. We both agree that weaning off the 1.6 dependency is the best long-term solution. We essentially want it so that nothing in Fedora needs 1.6. That said, we will continue to ship

Re: Java 7 for Fedora 16

2011-08-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 03:46:40PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: I think that would have to go to FESCo for approval or at least a decision, its a fairly major change to happen post alpha where all major changes should have landed already and all major mass rebuilds should have been done.

Re: Compiler as Require

2011-08-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:11:11PM +0200, Thomas Spura wrote: On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 16:34:22 -0300 Sergio Belkin wrote: Hi Is it OK include a compiler (eg gcc-c++) for a -devel subpackage? I'd say, it depends on the use case... Why do you want to do that? * Only to have some piece

Re: Oh god, my eyes (packaging a hairball of bundled PHP stuff, tt-rss)

2011-08-31 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 09:35:50PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: * dojo/dijit - F/OSS, packaged Currently for any javascript library you are allowed to bundle. In the future this may not be the case so you may have a lot of work to do to maintain this application in the future. Note that no

Re: Oh god, my eyes (packaging a hairball of bundled PHP stuff, tt-rss)

2011-08-31 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:49:09AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 19:35 +0200, Matej Cepl wrote: Dne 31.8.2011 19:31, Stephen John Smoogen napsal(a): they all came from the same version of upstream jquery. And delivering just one large jquery that can be used is not

Re: submitters +1ing their own packages

2011-09-07 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 01:38:09PM +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote: On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 07:38:53PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: plus a trac ticket. Whether it has some practical effect or not, it's clearly against the current policy, and what I'm questioning is whether Bodhi should be

Re: SysV to systemd conversion: please double-check the default and post-upgrade state of your services

2011-09-19 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 12:59:06AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: Hey, everyone. I'm starting to get a bit concerned about one aspect of the SysV to systemd conversion process. I've come across three separate bugs where the default and/or post-upgrade state of services was incorrect: in two

Re: [Guidelines Change] Changes to the Packaging Guidelines

2011-09-22 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 02:33:07PM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 20:22 +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote: Such packages would be broken and would fail to link without hardening or at least have text relocations too. Packagers shouldn't rely on this spec hack to fix up their

Re: unison formal review

2011-09-28 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 08:55:43AM +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote: On 09/27/2011 07:46 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/unison213

Re: Is there a mono developer in the house? Need help building moonlight.

2011-09-30 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
There's also a mono list:: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/mono -Toshio On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 09:53:02AM -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: I'm trying to package moonlight for possible inclusion at RPM Fusion but I'm having some issues. 1. pkg-config problem: I'm currently

Re: unison formal review

2011-10-03 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 10:05:09PM +0200, Gregor Tätzner wrote: Another idea: Just put in the package *unison* the latest release and when a new shiny version has been released we provide a compat version, so move unison to *unisonXYZ* and update the *unison* package regularly. I suppose

Re: release number when upstream *only* has git hashes?

2011-10-04 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 09:13:46AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 10/04/2011 08:04 AM, Eric Smith wrote: I wrote: What should I use for the release number in a spec when upstream does not have releases, and *only* has git hashes? It's not a prerelease since it is not clear that there

Re: release number when upstream *only* has git hashes?

2011-10-04 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 05:58:33PM +0200, Matej Cepl wrote: On 4.10.2011 16:38, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: The date should not go there as you cannot tell if upstream will someday switch to an actual version string (which will then need an Epoch to upgrade cleanly from the date). That's your

Re: release number when upstream *only* has git hashes?

2011-10-05 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 09:32:28PM -0700, Garrett Holmstrom wrote: On 2011-10-04 12:01, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: So my solyution: foo-0-1.20110120git.fc16 vs Your solution: foo-20110120-1.20110120git.fc16 (Since it's a snapshot, the date has to go into the release string anyway

Re: release number when upstream *only* has git hashes?

2011-10-05 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 06:53:50AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 10/04/2011 09:01 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Now do we want to put the git hash into the version field too? Yes, because git checkouts by date are not sufficiently reliable to provide deterministic checkouts from git. I

Re: Firefox on Fedora: No longer funny

2011-10-10 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:03:34AM -0600, Peter Gueckel wrote: Thomas Spura wrote: So, why are you using devel? This happened on F-15. This is the devel list, not the general list. Sorry. Although the branch for rawhide was once named devel, the naming of this as devel does not

Re: yubikey

2011-10-12 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:11:39PM -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: On Tue, 11 Oct 2011, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: As far as I know if you burn the key you will lose the ability to use the yubikey's servers and I'm guessing coincidentally the lastpass as well. I have seen that you are allowed

Re: Subject: IMPORTANT: Mandatory password and ssh key change by 2011-11-30

2011-10-12 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 08:19:27PM +0200, Henrik Nordström wrote: And why is so much of the Fedora inftrastructure relying on plain text password exchanges (within SSL, but still plain text at the Fedora servers) when there is both HTTP digest authentication (no plaintext seen by Fedora

Re: Subject: IMPORTANT: Mandatory password and ssh key change by 2011-11-30

2011-10-13 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 09:14:46AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 02:59:31PM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: 2) We've found PRIVATE keys on our servers By all means educate these users with a large clue-stick. The problem is this: Fedora contributors are a group of

Re: yubikey

2011-10-13 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:45:35AM +0200, Thomas Spura wrote: On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 23:02:36 -0700 Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:11:39PM -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: On Tue, 11 Oct 2011, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: As far as I know if you burn the key you will lose

Re: Subject: IMPORTANT: Mandatory password and ssh key change by 2011-11-30

2011-10-13 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:55:59PM -0500, Callum Lerwick wrote: On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 10:43 +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: One ssh key per machine makes alot more sense.  For outgoing ssh connections from -- say --

Re: Subject: IMPORTANT: Mandatory password and ssh key change by 2011-11-30

2011-10-14 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:13:08PM +0200, Henrik Nordström wrote: tor 2011-10-13 klockan 12:32 -0600 skrev Kevin Fenzi: Currently there's not a way to do this, but there really should be. https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2977 t Not even uploading an empty key

Re: Sourcing one spec from another permissible?

2011-10-17 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 09:27:38AM -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: NOTE (just for Jon :): This is for RPM Fusion but the question is a technical one. I'm looking at packaging zfs for Fedora (via RPM Fusion) and it has a single source package but contains two spec files. One for the utilities

Re: Systemd unit file: Can/Should ExecStart and ExecStop run a script?

2011-10-21 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 06:53:12PM -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: On Wed, 19.10.11 18:28, Richard Shaw (hobbes1...@gmail.com) wrote: Well, as I had already mentioned I more or less relented, so I'm all for the a/v

Re: Systemd conversion versus updates in back Fedora branches

2011-10-24 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 09:48:47AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: drago01 drag...@gmail.com writes: 2011/10/24 J�hann B. Gu�mundsson johan...@gmail.com: On 10/24/2011 05:42 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: FWIW, what the tomcat6 maintainers did is that they just ignored the guideline which says that you

Re: Systemd conversion versus updates in back Fedora branches

2011-10-24 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 06:49:04AM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 10/24/2011 03:52 AM, Tom Lane wrote: I'm really getting to the point where that's a completely unacceptable restriction. I've already blown off one mysql bug-fix release in F15 because of this restriction, and I see

Re: Systemd conversion versus updates in back Fedora branches

2011-10-24 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 07:56:59AM -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote: The current packaging guidelines require packages that update from sysv init scripts to systemd scripts to provide conversion triggers that are fired on the basis

Re: yubikey

2011-10-25 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:40:29AM +0200, François Kooman wrote: On 10/25/11 10:23 AM, Mario Ceresa wrote: Francois: you should already be able to use yubikey for FAS, bodhi and ssh. You don't need the yubikey prompt: just put your username, go to the password field and then press the key's

Re: UsrMove feature (was Re: FESCo meeting minutes for 2011-10-24)

2011-10-25 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:57:59PM +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote: So do I. So let's come back to the original discussion. I've added some points from re-reading the FHS and from this thread onto the Feature page. The immediate suggestion I have is that you should consider splitting the / = /usr

Re: yubikey

2011-10-25 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 09:17:39PM +0200, fkoo...@tuxed.net wrote: On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:22 PM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote: Correct -- it's not currently two-factor (it's either this or that).  We've been kicking around whether we want to make it two-factor, how we'd do

Re: UsrMove feature

2011-10-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 03:18:42PM +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote: On 10/26/2011 03:07 PM, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Richard W.M. Jonesrjo...@redhat.com said: Having said that, the split between /sbin and /bin is not a truly historical one, ie. it didn't exist in V7. I think it was

Re: Improvements Eclipse Installation

2011-10-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:20:46AM -0400, sami wagiaalla wrote: Hi, The way we currently install Eclipse plugins in Fedora is incorrect and somewhat fragile. RPM places all the plugin artifacts in the proper directories. However that does not update the eclipse metadata. This means that

Re: yubikey

2011-10-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 04:56:18PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2011-10-25 at 16:44 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: FAS and bodhi are single sign on (iirc, everything on admin.fedoraproject.org). Well, Bodhi seems to do a damn good job of forgetting you're signed in. I've never

Re: yubikey

2011-10-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:11:25PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 09:57 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 04:56:18PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2011-10-25 at 16:44 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: FAS and bodhi are single sign on (iirc

Re: java-1.7.0-openjdk breaks java detection in LibreOffice?

2011-10-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:58:30PM +0100, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote: On 19:58 Wed 26 Oct , Heiko Adams wrote: Am 26.10.2011 19:06, schrieb Jared K. Smith: On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Heiko Adams fedora-upda...@heiko-adams.de wrote: is it just me or is java-1.7.0-openjdk

Re: UsrMove feature

2011-10-27 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 10:34:45AM +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote: On 10/26/2011 06:21 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: In context, at least, this is wrong advice as it's a violation of the FHS: http://pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#PURPOSE22 Purpose /usr/lib includes object files

Re: UsrMove feature (was Re: FESCo meeting minutes for 2011-10-24)

2011-10-28 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 11:47:04AM +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote: On 10/27/2011 08:35 PM, Chris Adams wrote: The strategy is: - Replace binaries in /bin /sbin /usr/sbin /lib /lib64 with symlinks to their counterpart in /usr. Symlinking is done in rpm %post. Symlinks are part of the filelist

Re: UsrMove feature (was Re: FESCo meeting minutes for 2011-10-24)

2011-10-28 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
One thing I'm not clear on is when the switch between the initramfs and the actual / filesystem is performed. For instance, what does the user get if they boot single user? What do they get if they boot single user and /usr is on an nfs filesystem? -Toshio pgpC7SFu4zoLJ.pgp Description: PGP

Re: Orphaning packages

2011-11-02 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Nov 02, 2011 at 08:54:13AM +0100, Matthias Runge wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/11/11 21:56, James Bowes wrote: ipython -- An enhanced interactive Python shell mod_wsgi -- A WSGI interface for Python web applications in Apache I'm interested in

Re: convert init.d to systemd, how to determine which python is installed

2011-11-03 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 10:10:03AM -0400, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY wrote: HekaFS runs a daemon from init. It's a Bottle (python-based) http server. In order to work on, e.g. RHEL6 in addition to Fedora, the old init script has: ... vercmd=from distutils.sysconfig import get_python_lib; print

Re: convert init.d to systemd, how to determine which python is installed

2011-11-03 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 03:17:47PM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: Just out of curiosity are there any guidelines forbidding creating a symbolic link to that file from /usr/sbin So instead of having a unit file that looks like this... [Unit] Description=HekaFS an Clustered File

Re: Nomination period for Fedora Board, FESCo, and FAmSCo elections closes Nov. 5

2011-11-05 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 05:29:38PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 08:16:57 -0700, Robyn Bergeron rberg...@redhat.com wrote: Full information about the elections, including the elections schedule, and links to where one may nominate, can be seen here:

Re: Proposing Fedora Feature for private /tmp and /var/tmp for all systemd services in Fedora 17.

2011-11-08 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Nov 08, 2011 at 02:47:02AM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Mon, 07.11.11 16:08, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote: On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 15:42 -0500, Daniel J Walsh wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/07/2011 03:38 PM, Matej Cepl wrote: Dne

Code of Conduct policies marked official

2011-11-08 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
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Re: openssh-server in F16ga

2011-11-09 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 07:17:05PM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 11/09/2011 06:59 PM, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY wrote: Seems surprising (to me) that it'd be installed, and the port open in the firewall, but not enabled. From my perspective it's quite the oposit as in having it enabled on

Re: rubygem macro error

2011-11-10 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 03:19:07PM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 10.11.2011 13:57, Scott Schmit napsal(a): Yes, but the purpose of URL encoding is to reach resources that are named using reserved characters. So, for the filename you showed above, the correct URL would be:

Re: Why does git merge have so much trouble with Fedora package branches?

2011-11-10 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:59:50AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 08:55 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 09:02:45AM -0500, Simo Sorce wrote: On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 13:27 +0100, Michael J Gruber wrote: I'm sorry but the reason is that people don't

Re: Why does git merge have so much trouble with Fedora package?branches?

2011-11-10 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 09:37:38PM +, phantomjinx wrote: I would recommend rebasing branches against master up until they are pushed, if required to be shared. Doing so retains a linear history on the branch and can mean the branch commits can end up being fast forwarded onto master

Re: Is FAS (Fedora Account System) broken?

2011-11-12 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 08:10:09PM +0100, Gregor Tätzner wrote: Am Freitag, 11. November 2011, 10:47:12 schrieb Adam Tkac: Hello, today I tried to upload new bind tarball via `fedpkg new-sources` command but it failed with pycurl.error: (60, 'Peer certificate cannot be authenticated

Re: Cannot upload sources to git repository

2011-11-12 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 07:59:57PM +0100, Casper wrote: Does: fedora-cert -v show a current/valid cert? kevin Hello, yes my cert was uploaded two days before I built xinput_calibrator and I tryed to build Xnee and OpenStego. So this is the output : [Casper@Blackbird ~]$

Re: Fesco membership policies

2011-11-14 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 04:19:50PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote: Something that was brought up at the last fesco meeting is that fesco membership is currently restricted to members of the packaging group. That's

Re: Need help with bundled lib issue for OpenColorIO

2011-11-17 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 09:11:06AM -0600, Richard Shaw wrote: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Jon Ciesla l...@jcomserv.net wrote: I'm working on packaging OpenColorIO for Fedora and ran into an issue with bundled libraries. The project is currently statically compiling in yaml-cpp,

Re: scripts without she-bang in /usr/lib/packagename/

2011-11-17 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:26:13PM -0500, Paul Wouters wrote: I have a package that contains ruby scripts in /usr/lib/packagename/ These scripts are only called/included via other binaries. If I do not make these executable, then rpmlint complains about non-executable content in

Re: scripts without she-bang in /usr/lib/packagename/

2011-11-17 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 01:09:47PM -0500, Paul Wouters wrote: On Thu, 17 Nov 2011, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: When you talk about scripts, do you mean that the code calling these scripts does the equivalent of this (note, I generated my examples by reading up on ruby on the web just prior

Re: python-fedora update for F-14 brings in additional 57 packages

2011-11-17 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 11:28:48PM +0100, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: Hi list, could someone explain why an update in a branch that's supposed to be stable and is nearing EOL requires me to download 14MB worth of additional packages (57 extra dependencies) for a 360KB package?

Re: FAS mails in Spanish?

2011-11-20 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:22:50AM +0100, Martin Sourada wrote: Hi, just a few minutes ago I received a mail from FAS (I've double checked that the info inside is correct and that it indeed came from fedora infra machines) informing me of a user requesting a membership in one of the groups

Re: Libs with applications

2011-11-20 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 02:33:34PM -0500, Steve Grubb wrote: On Sunday, November 20, 2011 02:14:09 PM drago01 wrote: On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Steve Grubb wrote: For example, if a 32 bit library is installed, which application is left

Re: Changing kernel API / Breaking VirtualBox - update criteria violation?

2011-11-21 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 02:58:32PM -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Till Maas wrote: a recent kernel update[0] broke Fedora's ability to be a VirtualBox host, because asm/amd_iommu.h was removed. The removal of the file was noticed during testing, but it seems nobody noticed that this

Re: Why has fedpkg suddenly grown a dependency on MySQL-python?

2011-11-21 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 01:16:01AM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: I was rather surprised to find a routine yum update on my F14 system suddenly wanting to pull in a lot of mysql stuff that I'd not had installed at the moment. Investigation showed that if I try to remove MySQL-python again, yum wants

Re: Changing kernel API / Breaking VirtualBox - update criteria violation?

2011-11-22 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 03:08:07PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 04:59:54PM -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: The updates policy is meant to protect users of Fedora within reason. Compiling, writing, and using third party software on Fedora is a valid use of Fedora

Re: Changing kernel API / Breaking VirtualBox - update criteria violation?

2011-11-22 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 04:23:28PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 08:12:42AM -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 03:08:07PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: We don't support out of tree kernel modules at all, so they're not considered when making

Re: Changing kernel API / Breaking VirtualBox - update criteria violation?

2011-11-22 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:08:14PM -0500, Dave Jones wrote: On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 08:53:13AM -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: According to the updates policy the maintainer needs to consider that their change will cause problems for third party kernel module packagers and end users

Re: Changing kernel API / Breaking VirtualBox - update criteria violation?

2011-11-22 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 06:28:06PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:08:18AM -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 05:12:12PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: I don't know how much clearer I can make this. The update policy applies to the supported ABI

Re: Changing kernel API / Breaking VirtualBox - update criteria violation?

2011-11-22 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 06:57:30PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:49:28AM -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 06:28:06PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: Consuming the output of ls is a supported way to use ls. Building third party modules

Re: Changing kernel API / Breaking VirtualBox - update criteria violation?

2011-11-22 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 07:53:12PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:44:59AM -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 06:57:30PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: This case requires no clarification. The fact that you and I are continuing to argue about

Re: Changing kernel API / Breaking VirtualBox - update criteria violation?

2011-11-22 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 08:28:30PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:09:26PM -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 07:53:12PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: No. You're simply interpreting things incorrectly. *sigh* You miss the point. I'm

Re: Changing kernel API / Breaking VirtualBox - update criteria violation?

2011-11-22 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 08:53:33PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:50:40PM -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 08:28:30PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: If you interpret The ABI as Any property of the binary that another package could conceivably

Re: Fedora clean up process seems to be seriously broken...

2011-11-23 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 08:18:11AM -0600, Richard Shaw wrote: On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 15:47:32 -0600, RS (Richard) wrote: but that's a separate problem. The shear amount of documentation/guidelines there are.

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-29 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 02:23:31PM +, Richard Hughes wrote: On 25 November 2011 23:31, Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu wrote: These?  app-install (and friends) still pending review it seems, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=488962

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-12-02 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 09:39:31PM +0100, Giovanni Campagna wrote: packagedb seems an interesting project, for storing ratings and reviews, and it could be a candidate to replace the Ubuntu backend. Is there some documentation somewhere? Does it provide some webservice API (REST, JSON, SOAP,

Re: Coping with unfinished upstream package split for unixODBC

2011-12-02 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
Sounds like this is just going to occur for RawHide, right? With that in mind On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 04:22:55PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: There are a couple of ways I could go about it: 1. Include the older tarball in the SRPM for unixODBC, and just build it in a subdirectory, and then

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-12-03 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 10:13:49AM +0100, drago01 wrote: I don't buy the legal problem. If we can ship the icons in the distribution split into multiple packages we can ship them aggregated into one as well. You can't link icons so the license of the icons should and cannot prevent others

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-12-03 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 04:13:37PM +0100, Giovanni Campagna wrote: Il giorno ven, 02/12/2011 alle 16.37 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi ha scritto: On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 09:39:31PM +0100, Giovanni Campagna wrote: packagedb seems an interesting project, for storing ratings and reviews

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-12-04 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sun, Dec 04, 2011 at 07:08:11PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Yep. This is a pseudo-bug. Because of the way people have been interpreting the spec for .desktop files, all of these provide .desktop files where the name is Terminal. So they're all placed on the same

Re: Coping with unfinished upstream package split for unixODBC

2011-12-05 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 02:24:08PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com writes: Well, unixODBC 2.2.14 isn't going to change anymore, so I don't really think that end of it would be adding instability. In any case, if we get to the point of doing a Fedora release before

Re: Many webapps in Fedora require httpd instead of webserver

2010-07-30 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 10:19:08AM +0200, Felix Kaechele wrote: Hi there, I had a short glimpse at the review request for dojo (#609817) today and saw that it explicitly requires httpd. Well, dojo is a collection of static JavaScript files so I feel that there is no reason why it should

Re: Fedora 14 has been branched!

2010-07-30 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 06:00:43AM -0700, John Poelstra wrote: Jesse Keating said the following on 07/29/2010 09:03 PM Pacific Time: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Branch_Freeze_Policy I know it's been a rough couple of days here,

Re: Fedora 14 branching and dist-git roll out

2010-07-30 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 09:49:22AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/30/2010 01:06 AM, Enrico Scholz wrote: Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com writes: I want to build a new libfoo for rawhide: fedpkg build where can be done local

Re: Python 2.7 status: python2.7 is in dist-f14

2010-08-04 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 10:17:27AM +0100, pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Tomasz Torcz to...@pipebreaker.pl wrote: On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 08:32:07PM -0400, David Malcolm wrote: Rawhide (dist-f14) now has python 2.7  I have a machine which run rawhide since F11

Re: root-doc subpackage slightly obese

2010-08-05 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 03:19:46PM -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Jonathan Dieter wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 14:24 -0400, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: I don't think we could just say don't package documentation that's ridiculously large but perhaps we could make

Re: root-doc subpackage slightly obese

2010-08-05 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 01:45:08AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Toshio Kuratomi wrote: I don't think we could just say don't package documentation that's ridiculously large but perhaps we could make some sort of guideline about not duplicating formats on extra large docs. Is the case

Re: Some questions about on Fedora

2010-08-10 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:27:20AM +0800, Chen Lei wrote: 2010/8/10 Remi Collet fed...@famillecollet.com: Le 09/08/2010 09:38, Chen Lei a écrit : It seems silvercity is packaged in many distributions, e.g. gentoo freebsd mandriva PLD. It fact, RPM I found only provide the python

Re: The slip down memory lane

2010-08-12 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
I'll reply here but I'm also bringing together some things in the rest of the thread... sorry about that. On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 01:19:29PM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: Since 2006 I counted 18 slips (I think one or two of those may just be a single slip listed twice). Lets not yell, lets not

Re: New bodhi release in production

2010-08-13 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 08:20:04PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Chris Adams wrote: What if it isn't a bug, but just different behavior? Do you really think it's acceptable for a library to terminate the whole application when an error happens??? There's a reason rpmlint complains loudly

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