Re: DNF5-5.0.1 has a stable API

On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 09:05:08AM +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > Dne 24. 07. 23 v 22:43 Chuck Anderson napsal(a): > > I propose "qzw". It's so easy to type on a qwerty keyboard layout. > > English qwerty layout. Because on Czech layout "z" and "y" are swapped. :) Isn't that called qwertz? Zbys

Re: Potential changes to systemd RPM macros

On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 10:45:30AM -0400, Andrea Bolognani wrote: > On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 10:51:04AM +0000, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > I don't think Fedora would reject those changes, because in general > > we don't reject things unless they really bre

Re: F39 Change Proposal: IBus 1.5.29 (System-Wide)

On Wed, Jul 05, 2023 at 03:37:27PM +0100, Sebastian Crane wrote: > > As someone who does not use the Plasma desktop currently, I am a > little confused as to why this is a change proposal. If I'm reading it > correctly, Fedora configured Plasma to run on Wayland, which partially > broke IBus suppo

Re: Potential changes to systemd RPM macros

On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 07:36:41AM -0700, Andrea Bolognani wrote: > On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 08:20:21AM +0000, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 07:40:08AM -0700, Andrea Bolognani wrote: > > > Now, since this is clearly not a libvirt-specific issue, I

Re: Restricting automounting of uncommon filesystems?

On Sat, Jul 22, 2023 at 07:01:34AM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > A discussion within Debian again brought up the problem that: > > 1) Automounting of removable media exposes the kernel to a lot of > untrusted input > 2) Kernel upstream are not terribly concerned with ensuring that kernel > fi

Re: dist-git: Diverging branches can't be fast-forwarded

On Sat, Jul 22, 2023 at 09:08:37AM +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > Dne 21. 07. 23 v 10:50 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a): > > > Is this expected? Or is this sign of something malicious happenening? > > Dunno. Generally the most likely explanation would be that you have loca

Re: dist-git: Diverging branches can't be fast-forwarded

On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 10:28:04AM +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > When I make SPDX statistics I have git checkout of all dist-gits and do > git-pull every two week there. This morning I found that two times I got an > error: > > hint: Diverging branches can't be fast-forwarded, you need to either:

Re: proposed change to FESCo voting rules

On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 08:02:53AM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Ben Cotton wrote: > > This will be helpful to people who aren't regularly involved in FESCo > > votes. If that's you: the proposal presented here is largely > > clarification. There's not much in the way of substance change.

Re: Potential changes to systemd RPM macros

Hi Andrea, On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 07:40:08AM -0700, Andrea Bolognani wrote: > since the libvirt-daemon-proxy package is a completely new one as far > as RPM is concerned, all its systemd units will get presets applied > during %post. In at least two completely valid deployment scenarios, > this r

proposed change to FESCo voting rules

Hi, Stephen Gallagher proposed a change to FESCo voting rules [1]. The latest draft: --&<- Ticket Votes (Preferred) Once a formal proposal is made in a ticket, voting will proceed. A Change ticket is assumed to be a a formal propos

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2023-07-20)

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-07-20/fesco.2023-07-20-17.00.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-07-20/fesco.2023-07-20-17.00.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-07-20/fesco.2023-07-20-17.00.lo

Schedule for Thursday's FESCo Meeting (2023-07-20)

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Thursday at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-2 on irc.libera.chat. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2023-07-20 17:00 UTC' Links to all issues to be

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2023-07-13) TIME]

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-07-13/fesco.2023-07-13-17.05.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-07-13/fesco.2023-07-13-17.05.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-07-13/fesco.2023-07-13-17.05.lo

Schedule for Thursday's FESCo Meeting (2023-07-13) [NEW MEETING TIME]

Note that the meeting time has moved. Or actually, the meeting time hasn't moved, but the day is different. It still ends in "y", and also starts with a "t". Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Thursday at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.libera.chat. To

Re: Towards enabling rpm sysusers integration

On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 08:20:58PM +0200, Michal Domonkos wrote: > On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 01:18:27PM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > Now that the initial hurdle of getting rpm 4.19 into rawhide is over, it's > > time to start looking towards enabling the sysusers integration: > > https://rpm-sof

Re: Towards enabling rpm sysusers integration

On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 10:25:10AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek said: > > I was hoping we would be make the dependency on setup optional. > > It is a fairly heavyweight package (700+ kb) and with lots of > > not-that-usefu

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Clean Systemd-boot installs (Self-Contained_

On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 05:28:41PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > It doesn't attempt to create unified kernel images, so the > > existing `dnf update`, `kdumpctl`, and `make install` in a kernel > > source directory should all work. > > Nitpick: &#

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Clean Systemd-boot installs (Self-Contained_

> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/cleanup_systemd_install > == Detailed Description == > As a first pass, the 'inst.sdboot' option already in anaconda should > work. As it stands, that replaces grub+shim with the systemd-boot > loader, and moves the kernel + initrd to the EFI system partiti

Re: Towards enabling rpm sysusers integration

On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 01:18:27PM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: > Hey all, > > Now that the initial hurdle of getting rpm 4.19 into rawhide is over, it's > time to start looking towards enabling the sysusers integration: > https://rpm-software-management.github.io/rpm/manual/users_and_groups.html

Re: Modules without modularity

On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 06:32:45PM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote: > I spent some time thinking how to approximate the nice features with current > state of RPM, Koji, and DNF and come up with this approach > . Thank you for the detailed proposal that tries t

Re: Making systemd-boot option available for installation?

On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 07:55:09AM -0500, Jeremy Linton wrote: > Hi, > > On 6/5/23 03:24, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 05:25:22PM -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > > > Hello team, > > > > > > I would like to bring

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Automatic Cloud Reboot on Updates (Self-Contained Change)

On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 07:57:12PM +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Automatic_Cloud_Reboot_On_Updates > == Summary == > Cloud users can provide cloud-init metadata when creating a Fedora > cloud instance and that metadata can contain instructions to update > all

Re: Making systemd-boot option available for installation?

On Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 05:25:22PM -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Hello team, > > I would like to bring back the topic related to the selection of bootloader > notably either GRUB2 and systemd-boot. With the recent adoption on UKI > kernel, it would be great to get systemd-boot ready for at lea

Re: Self Introduction: Daniel Milnes

On Sat, Jun 03, 2023 at 11:54:46PM -, Daniel Milnes via devel wrote: > Hey all, I'm Daniel Milnes. > > By day I'm a CyberSecurity Engineer at LMAX Group, part of the team > responsible for running ~2k Rocky Linux servers, and by night I'm head of > Infrastructure for RACTF, an open-source fr

Re: Status of the forge macros?

On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 11:13:15AM -0400, Ben Beasley wrote: > In your example, the forge macros simplify the spec file only because a > snapshot is involved; but the forge macros put the snapshot info in the > Release field, which is still permissible but deprecated[1]. > > Without the forge ma

Re: HEADS UP: RPM 4.19 soname bump in Rawhide

On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 02:13:43PM +0200, Michal Domonkos wrote: > On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 01:03:43PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > I think you should also consider packages that build require > > rpm-devel. libguestfs consumes the librpm API, so I'm not sure why it > > didn't make the list

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2023-05-16)

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2023-05-16/fesco.2023-05-16-17.01.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2023-05-16/fesco.2023-05-16-17.01.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2023-05-16/fesco.2023-05-16-17.01.log.html

Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2023-05-16)

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Tuesday at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.libera.chat. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2023-05-16 17:00 UTC' Links to all issues to be dis

Re: review swaps

On Sun, May 14, 2023 at 12:17:09AM +0200, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > Hi Zbigniew, > > > On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 11:55 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > > I have a bunch of nice python packages looking for a reviewer: > > > > #2121902 pyins

review swaps

I have a bunch of nice python packages looking for a reviewer: #2121902 pyinstrument - Python profiler with colorful output #2203529 blosc2 - High performance compressor optimized for binary data #2203544 python-ndindex - Python library for manipulating indices of ndarrays #2203546 python-blosc2 -

Re: disabling yum modular repos by default?

On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 07:09:49PM +0200, Peter Boy wrote: > I suppose I would belong to the latter. From a Server admin’s POV the modules > are a great chance to keep some backwards compatibility with our fast pacing > distro. The most prominent example is PostgreSQL. It is not so rare that the

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2023-05-09)

On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 06:08:29AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > It was probably a mistake to say "Fedora 40 and onward" will use > Discourse for Change discussions, as it assumes success (which I don't > want to assume after many experiences in the past proving otherwise). > I would have preferred th

Re: F39 proposal: BiggerESP (Self-Contained Change proposal)

On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 03:59:33AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 3:33 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > > On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 05:54:45PM -0400, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > I don't know what question you asked them. Any modifi

Re: F39 proposal: BiggerESP (Self-Contained Change proposal)

On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 02:25:07PM +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: > On Wed, 10 May 2023 at 11:55, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > Especially not by making some small change contingent on moonshot proposals. > > But I think that a) the current proposal is just a band-aid,

Re: F39 proposal: BiggerESP (Self-Contained Change proposal)

On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 05:54:45PM -0400, Chris Murphy wrote: > I don't know what question you asked them. Any modifications > (writes) performed outside kernel code is not supported, since > forever. > Read-only drivers, which are the only drivers under discussion here, > aren't a per se problem

Re: F39 proposal: BiggerESP (Self-Contained Change proposal)

On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 11:54:50AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 11:21 AM Simo Sorce wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2023-05-09 at 18:32 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > On Di, 09.05.23 09:20, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2023-05-09)

On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 12:22:09AM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > So you folks were not happy with the feedback on the mailing list, so you > > just made up a poll somewhere else. > [snip] > > Was that poll ever announced on the mailing list? Or did you jus

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Flatpaks without Modules (System-Wide Change)

On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 11:54:39AM +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FlatpaksWithoutModules > For each Fedora release, we'll have two additional targets > > f39-flatpak-runtime (inherits f39), tags: f39-flatpak-runtime-build, > f39-flatpak-runtime > f39-app (i

Re: disabling yum modular repos by default?

On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 01:07:55PM +0200, Jun Aruga (he / him) wrote: > > "No fedora-repos-modular in default installation" ? > > I feel that's a better way than disabling (enabled=0) module repos by default. To clarify: I fully agree. My earlier comment was about how to better reflect this in th

Re: F39 proposal: BiggerESP (Self-Contained Change proposal)

On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 01:20:54PM +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: > On Tue, 9 May 2023 at 10:22, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > This is both too much and not enough. > > Right; and I think a different Fedora feature proposal would be a good > idea for the version of

Re: disabling yum modular repos by default?

On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 12:21:51PM +0800, Jens-Ulrik Petersen wrote: > Thanks for all the helpful comments and feedback, > though more is still welcome of course. > So I am leaning now towards not installing fedora-repos-modular by default > (rather than disabling the modular repos by default): als

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2023-05-09)

On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 01:26:37AM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > * #2989 Proposal to adjust Changes Policy to use Fedora Discussion > > instead of the devel list (zbyszek, 17:03:21) > > * AGREED: APPROVED (+6, 0, 0): >

Re: disabling yum modular repos by default?

On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 02:21:46PM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote: > V Tue, May 09, 2023 at 12:31:54PM +0800, Jens-Ulrik Petersen napsal(a): > > I have been thinking about proposing a Change to Fedora 39, > > which would disable yum modular repos by default in installs. > > I thought I would float the ide

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2023-05-09)

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2023-05-09/fesco.2023-05-09-17.01.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2023-05-09/fesco.2023-05-09-17.01.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2023-05-09/fesco.2023-05-09-17.01.log.html

Re: F39 proposal: BiggerESP (Self-Contained Change proposal)

On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 01:31:01PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Chris Murphy said: > > What about the increasing growth in linux-firmware and in particular the > > NVIDIA firmware requirements? My reading suggests it's significant and the > > future growth also significant. > >

Re: F39 proposal: BiggerESP (Self-Contained Change proposal)

On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 04:04:33PM +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > Hi, > > > > And install kernels to /boot/efi in case /boot is not a XBOOTLDR > > > filesystem? > > > > If /boot is not a XBOOTLDR, then we only have one file system which is > > the ESP. It could be mounted on /boot or on /efi or

Re: F39 Proposal: Make Toolbx a release-blocking deliverable and have release-blocking test criteria (System-Wide Change)

On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 03:46:21PM +0200, Debarshi Ray via devel wrote: > Hey Zbigniew, > > On Mon, 2023-05-08 at 19:57 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Mon, May 08, 2023 at 09:24:08AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > I'm broadly in favo

Re: F39 proposal: BiggerESP (Self-Contained Change proposal)

On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 12:02:26PM +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > Hi, > > > If we want to change the default here, let's do some proper cleanup: > > 1. the split between ESP and XBOOTLDR is only useful in the case where > >ESP already existed and was small. If the installer is *creating* > >

Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2023-05-09)

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Tuesday at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.libera.chat. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2023-05-09 17:00 UTC' Links to all issues to be dis

Re: disabling yum modular repos by default?

On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 12:31:54PM +0800, Jens-Ulrik Petersen wrote: > I have been thinking about proposing a Change to Fedora 39, > which would disable yum modular repos by default in installs. > I thought I would float the idea here first. > > I suspect the vast majority of Fedora users don't us

Re: F39 proposal: BiggerESP (Self-Contained Change proposal)

Hi! Sorry for the late reply, esp. that I need to grumble a bit. I missed the thread and only came here via the fesco ticket. On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 12:15:12PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BiggerESP > == Feedback == > > There is no alternative -- the ESP ha

Re: F39 Proposal: Make Toolbx a release-blocking deliverable and have release-blocking test criteria (System-Wide Change)

On Mon, May 08, 2023 at 09:24:08AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > I'm broadly in favor here, some comments in line... > > ...snip... > > First, we want to ensure that there are up to date > > [https://src.fedoraproject.org/container/fedora-toolbox > > fedora-toolbox] OCI images published on > > [http

Re: F39 Proposal: Make Toolbx a release-blocking deliverable and have release-blocking test criteria (System-Wide Change)

On Mon, May 08, 2023 at 04:49:09PM +0100, Barry wrote: > > fedora-toolbox] [https://opencontainers.org/ OCI] images must be > This url does not exist. > > [https://containertoolbx.org/ Toolbx] to be usable when a new Fedora > Nor this one. Both work fine here. Maybe some temporary network glitch?

Re: F39 Proposal: LIBFFI34 static trampolines (System-Wide Change)

On Mon, May 08, 2023 at 02:50:21PM +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LIBFFI34_static_trampolines > == Summary == > Libffi is currently configured to use dynamic trampolines, which > require some source of memory which is both writable and executable. > This is an

Re: How to drop 32bit support from the scientific Python stack

On Thu, May 04, 2023 at 02:40:41PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Thu, May 04, 2023 at 04:03:49PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > Hello folks, > ...snip... > > > > Would that be possible? > > I don't think it currently is... but sounds like a reasonable RFE to > koji to me. > > The way koji handl

Re: F39 proposal: Fedora Onyx (Self-Contained Change proposal)

On Mon, May 01, 2023 at 03:31:00PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Fedora_Onyx > == Detailed Description == > Fedora Onyx is an immutable desktop operating system, featuring the > Budgie Desktop environment. Fedora Onyx leverages the same > foundational technologie

Re: The new version of Fedora Messaging Notifications will arrive this week

On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 10:30:01AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 08:56:57AM -, Aurelien Bompard wrote: > > > So… I understand why this default was chosen, but I think that it'd be > > > better > > > to change the default to something narrow-but-reasonable, especially for

Re: The new version of Fedora Messaging Notifications will arrive this week

On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 11:05:53AM -, Michael J Gruber wrote: > Speaking of not obvious ... > > One starts with no rule at all. Does that mean no notifications? I.e., is > include or exclude the default? Yes, the default is no notifications at all. So… I understand why this default was chos

Re: The new version of Fedora Messaging Notifications will arrive this week

On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 09:50:05AM -, Aurelien Bompard wrote: > > Are only email notifications supported? > > No, it can do IRC and Matrix as well. > > > (On the new website, it says "Add destination", and in the drop down menu > > there's only my email address.) > > The available destinatio

Re: F39 proposal: mkosi-initrd (Self-Contained Change proposal)

On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 12:17:22AM +0200, Dan Čermák wrote: > Would it be possible to build bootable images using mkosi-initrd in > koji? Then these could be booted in openQA directly and catch simple > regressions like unbootable images quite easily. If I understand correctly, you are suggesting

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 10:28:41AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 03:33:28PM -0400, Solomon Peachy via devel wrote: > > Honestly, if a "how to configure discourse to mimic the MUA-managed > > mailing list experience (ie not having to log into a web site after the > > initi

Re: The new version of Fedora Messaging Notifications will arrive this week

On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 03:04:51PM +0200, Aurelien Bompard wrote: > We plan on: > - deploying the new version on https://notifications.fedoraproject.org Hi! Are only email notifications supported? (On the new website, it says "Add destination", and in the drop down menu there's only my email addr

Re: review swap

On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 02:40:13PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 2:36 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I have https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2189633 > > Review Request: mkosi-initrd - Gene

review swap

Hi, I have https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2189633 Review Request: mkosi-initrd - Generator for initrd images using distro packages The packaging is trivial, there isn't even a %build section. This is for https://github.com/systemd/mkosi-initrd. I'll also submit a Change for F39 usi

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 05:20:37PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > First, I’d like to move the Changes discussion. They will still be > posted to devel-announce, but responses directed to Project Discussion > in a new #changes tag. Ben tells me that this is a FESCo decision, > which seems reasonable

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

On Sat, Apr 22, 2023 at 06:03:12PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > I would also be one of those people who would be much less engaged -- > even disengage -- if everything moved to a website. > > I have one thing to add that I don't think was covered: > > Can we make contributing to the mail

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 04:38:28PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 4:05 PM Maxwell G wrote: > > > > What evidence shows that the group is ever shrinking? I often see Self > > Introduction posts and new people interacting with project. I suppose > > that whether they continue int

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 11:54:09AM -0400, JT wrote: > > But with my Fedora Ambassador hat on I can tell you that the problem > we see right now is not that we don't have people coming to Fedora. We have > a problem helping people to connect to where the work is happening in a way > that they can c

Re: Test upgrades from F37 to F38 - it will take you just a minute

On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 06:30:36PM -0400, Elliott Sales de Andrade wrote: > > > - problem with installed package msv-xsdlib-1:2013.6.1-19.fc33.noarch > > > (try to add '--skip-broken' to skip uninstallable packages) > > > > I'll add this one to fedora-obsolete-packages. > > > > > It looks like yo

Re: Test upgrades from F37 to F38 - it will take you just a minute

On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 07:37:55AM +, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > I've just tried a 'dnf system-upgrade' and got: > > Errore: Errore test di transazione: >   il file /usr/lib64/libheif/libheif-libde265.so dell'installazione di > libheif-freeworld-1.15.1-4.fc38.x86_64 entra in conflitto co

Re: F39 proposal: RPM 4.19 (System-Wide Change proposal)

On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 09:05:43AM -0400, Stephen Smoogen wrote: > On Tue, 4 Apr 2023 at 08:52, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 11:17:50AM +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 07:37:59AM +0000, Zbigniew Jędr

Re: F39 proposal: RPM 4.19 (System-Wide Change proposal)

On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 11:17:50AM +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 07:37:59AM +0000, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 02, 2023 at 09:54:04PM +0200, Dan Čermák wrote: > > > The only benchmark that *I* am aware of is this one done by Martin &

Re: F39 proposal: RPM 4.19 (System-Wide Change proposal)

On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 11:02:53AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: > > > And -Ofast is not something that can be enabled as a default build flag, > > because it leads to surprising and unpredictable behaviour in some > > cases. (*) > >

Re: F39 proposal: RPM 4.19 (System-Wide Change proposal)

On Sun, Apr 02, 2023 at 09:54:04PM +0200, Dan Čermák wrote: > The only benchmark that *I* am aware of is this one done by Martin > Jambor: https://jamborm.github.io/spec-2022-07-29-levels/ This is very … underwhelming. x86-64-v2 is essentially identical to x86-64-v1. x86-64-v3 is better. It even s

Re: DNF Sytem Upgrade requirements for an F37 → F38 upgrade

On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 02:37:16PM +0200, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 2:33 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 02:25:33PM +0200, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 2:10 PM Zbigniew Jędr

Re: DNF Sytem Upgrade requirements for an F37 → F38 upgrade

On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 02:25:33PM +0200, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 2:10 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 12:08:03AM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 4:09 AM Alexan

Re: DNF Sytem Upgrade requirements for an F37 → F38 upgrade

On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 12:08:03AM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 4:09 AM Alexander Ploumistos > wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > TL;DR: > > DNF memory usage during upgrades from F37 to F38 on a couple of Fedora > > Cloud images (with 2 GB of RAM each) led to oomd kicking in a

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2023-03-28)

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2023-03-28/fesco.2023-03-28-17.00.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2023-03-28/fesco.2023-03-28-17.00.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2023-03-28/fesco.2023-03-28-17.00.log.html

Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2023-03-28)

We didn't hold a meeting for a few weeks. Let's do one today to push some stalled subjects. Sorry for sending this out so late. Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Tuesday at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.libera.chat. To convert UTC to your local time,

Re: F39 proposal: SPDX License Phase 2 (System-Wide Change proposal)

On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 03:16:29PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SPDX_Licenses_Phase_2 > > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes > process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive > community feedback. This proposal will

Re: F39 proposal: Changes of defaults in createrepo_c-1.0.0 (System-Wide Change proposal)

> > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 26, 2023 at 5:06 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> We should probably make it ^(/etc/|/bin/|/sbin/|/usr/bin/|/usr/sbin/). > > > >> Split-usr > > > >

Re: crypto-policies

On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 01:29:38PM +0200, Neal H. Walfield wrote: > On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 13:16:45 +0200, > Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > I agree. The scope of the issue is fairly narrow, and the underlying > > issue is an invalid signature made by the anydesk maintainers

Re: crypto-policies

On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 11:40:05AM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 11:23 AM Kamil Paral wrote: > > > > On Sat, Mar 25, 2023 at 8:20 AM Neal H. Walfield wrote: > >> > >> Panu wrote https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2170878#c126 : > >> > >> > To me the key points h

Re: F39 proposal: Changes of defaults in createrepo_c-1.0.0 (System-Wide Change proposal)

On Sat, Mar 25, 2023 at 06:29:14AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 3:42 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 02:52:50PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/createrepo_c

Re: F39 proposal: Changes of defaults in createrepo_c-1.0.0 (System-Wide Change proposal)

On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 02:52:50PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/createrepo_c_1.0.0 > == Summary == > Update createrepo_c to 1.0.0, new release will include change of > default compression to zstd, no longer generating metadata in sqlite > database format by def

(Non-)Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2023-03-21)

There is nothing on the agenda; the meeting is cancelled. = Discussed and Voted in the Ticket = #2963 Make 64-bit ARM minimal disk image release blocking? https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2693 APPROVED (+4,1,-0) ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedora

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2023-03-07)

On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 05:57:53PM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > I also stand by what I wrote above. Kevin's words that "there is still > > nothing preventing an already rejected feature from being surprisingly > >

(Non-)Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2023-03-14)

There is nothing on the agenda; the meeting is cancelled. = Discussed and Voted in the Ticket = #2962 Change: MinGW toolchain update https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2962 APPROVED (+6,0,-0) ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubs

Re: Release rpkg-1.66 and fedpkg-1.44

On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 10:53:41PM +0200, Otto Liljalaakso wrote: > Miro Hrončok kirjoitti 9.3.2023 klo 13.17: > > On 09. 03. 23 10:05, Otto Liljalaakso wrote: > > > Miro Hrončok kirjoitti 8.3.2023 klo 17.29: > > > > > > > > However, maybe it does not work as I expected? > > > > > > > > [python-s

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2023-03-07)

On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 09:59:03AM +0100, Hunor Csomortáni wrote: > On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 8:46 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > > On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 05:49:24AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > > Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > >

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2023-03-07)

On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 11:28:58AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Neal Gompa: > > > On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 4:37 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > >> > >> * Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek: > >> > >> > * #2951 Proposal: policy for resubmitt

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2023-03-07)

On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 05:49:24AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > * #2951 Proposal: policy for resubmitting rejected proposals (zbyszek, > > 17:07:47) > > * AGREED: FESCo will make an effort to notify people when proposals &g

Re: Degradated modules support

On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 10:20:21AM -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Wed, Mar 8 2023 at 04:10:15 PM +0100, Petr Pisar > wrote: > > That could also affect seemingly unrelated parts of Fedora like Flatpaks > > whose build process is based on modularity. > > I can address this. We intend to stop

Re: Release rpkg-1.66 and fedpkg-1.44

On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 08:13:57AM +0100, Ondrej Nosek wrote: > Hi all, > a new version rpkg-1.66 together with fedpkg-1.44 are released containing > both features and bugfixes. > Currently, only Fedora 37 (and Rawhide) packages are present in stable > repositories. > Other supported packages are w

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2023-03-07)

== Meeting summary Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2023-03-07/fesco.2023-03-07-17.00.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2023-03-07/fesco.2023-03-07-17.00.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2023-03-07/fesco.2023-

Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2023-03-07)

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Tuesday at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.libera.chat. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2023-03-07 17:00 UTC' Links to all issues to be dis

Re: JupyterLab finally in Fedora and the future of Jupyter Notebook

On Sun, Mar 05, 2023 at 04:19:41PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 05. 03. 23 12:32, Lumír Balhar wrote: > > Fedora 39 now contains JupyterLab 4.0.0 alpha 34 which allows me to > > update Jupyter Notebook to 7.0.0 alpha 14. ... > > Any help testing the prereleases is appreciated. > > Thank you, Lu

Re: Fedora Linux 38 blocker status summary

On Fri, Mar 03, 2023 at 04:02:43PM -0500, Stephen Smoogen wrote: > On Fri, 3 Mar 2023 at 15:56, Ben Cotton wrote: > > 2. crypto-policies — Insecure installed RPMs (like Google Chrome) > > prevent system updates in F38, can't be removed — NEW > > ACTION: Upstream to implement MR #129 > > > > > >

Re: F39 proposal: Modernize Thread Building Blocks for Fedora 39 (System-Wide Change proposal)

On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 11:06:21AM -0800, Thomas Rodgers wrote: > On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 7:46 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek < > zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 01:46:24PM +, Ian McInerney via devel wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 15, 202

Re: F39 proposal: Modernize Thread Building Blocks for Fedora 39 (System-Wide Change proposal)

On Wed, Mar 01, 2023 at 02:36:18PM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > Parallel runtime installation is obviously required. > > But is it necessary to have parallel installation of devel headers? > > It might be less work to ha

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