Re: Looking for user Lhirlimann

2024-09-16 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Peter Boy [16/09/2024 10:04] : > > Does someone know WIKI user >>lhirlimann<< and how to get in contact? > I would like to talk about some of his/her contributions. His RHBZ email is ludo...@hirlimann.net . Emmanuel -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel

Re: *****SPAM***** Enabling GOPROXY and GOSUMDB in Fedora

2024-07-14 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Chris Suszynski [11/07/2024 11:16] : > > What's the reason for treating Go differently than other languages? > Fedora does not patch out calls to sites like npmjs.com, pypi.org, > rubygems.org or repo.maven.apache.org, doesn't it? Actually, we do. https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/perl-Dancer2

Re: [Node.js] Stepping down as Node.js Maintainer in Fedora

2024-06-24 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Jan Staněk [24/06/2024 03:06] : > > > Right now I see no way on Pagure to request ownership/co-maintenance > (maybe I'm just blind). Anyway, feel free to add me to maintainers > and/or transfer the ownership. Unless things have changed, Pagure does not allow transfer of ownership. Once Stephen

Re: Unresponsive packagers: suanand and vponcova

2024-05-06 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Sundeep Anand [07/05/2024 05:50] : > > (not sure how to update email at bugzilla.redhat.com) Go to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=account and fill in the 'New email address' field. Emmanuel -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedor

Re: convert everything to rpmautospec?

2024-04-08 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek [08/04/2024 09:02] : > > Well, you and Kevin see "salami tactics" (whatever that may be), FTR, I have no idea what "salami tactics" is. > while I see normal engineering practice: some new idea is hatched, > it's implemented and used narrowly, them it's applied by def

Re: convert everything to rpmautospec?

2024-04-07 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek [07/04/2024 15:56] : > > On Sun, Apr 07, 2024 at 05:47:57PM +0200, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: > > > > This doesn't solve the problem you have so that's a no-go as well. > > In what way doesn't it solve the problem? In your origi

Re: convert everything to rpmautospec?

2024-04-07 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek [07/04/2024 15:35] : > > OK, so if there was an opt-out, [...] This doesn't solve the problem you have so that's a no-go as well. Emmanuel -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an em

Re: [Pierre-Yves Chibon] Unresponsive packagers: nknazeko

2024-02-11 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Vit Mojzis [11/02/2024 22:44] : > >Do I understand correctly that she just needs > to create a new BZ account using the email address in FAS? I suspect changing the email linked to her existing BZ account to match the one in FAS will suffice. Emmanuel --

License change for perl-Net-DHCP

2024-02-04 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
Hello, all. The license tag on perl-Net-DHCP has been corrected from: GPL+ or Artistic to MIT Regards, Emmanuel -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedor

Re: The new Change discussion process is painful

2023-09-14 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Vít Ondruch [14/09/2023 10:50] : > > Apart from documentation, where this was announced? On Discourse? Because I > don't remember any email about this change. https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/Z2T5WKUTHNLS2SVCVAWNYYRIBK3NGF32/ Emmanuel _

Re: SIG proposal: Multimedia SIG

2023-06-19 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Philip Wyett [19/06/2023 22:20] : > > Private mailing list? No part of this project should have private anything > IMHO. Bug reports can explain security flaws and lead to exploits. They can also contain confidentiel information. I would suggest a private ml dedicated to bugs and a public one

Re: Place to write something up

2023-05-03 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Todd Zullinger [03/05/2023 23:33] : > > > Kind of a random thing, but... I would like to write up how to use GRUB2 > > to do BIOS-PXE+UEFI-PXE+UEFI-HTTP boot. I asked for the Fedora packages > > to include the needed PXE bit, and it does now (thanks!), so I feel I > > owe a good explanation on h

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-21 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Kevin P. Fleming [21/04/2023 10:03] : > > lots of people say "I decide > what to read based on what I see in my email client", but when the subject > of the emails doesn't reflect their contents, that's a losing proposition. I agree there's a huge lack

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-21 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Fulko Hew [20/04/2023 21:18] : > > Can you say the same for Discourse? I've tried using Fedora Discussions and its email notifications (both the text and html versions) leave a lot to be desired. So much so that I never actually go on to read the discussions. Emmanuel __

Re: Looking to orphan perl-Net-TELNET

2023-04-14 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Stephen Smoogen [14/04/2023 12:20] : > > I would like someone else to take over this package and will either add > someone or orphan this in the coming 2 weeks. I will gladly take it (fas name: eseyman). Emmanuel ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2022-12-19 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Miro Hrončok [19/12/2022 16:43] : > > perl-Mail-Procmailorphan 0 weeks ago Taken. Emmanuel ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraprojec

Re: Review Request: ImageMagick7

2022-12-05 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Neal Gompa [04/12/2022 22:26] : > > Smooge challenged me earlier in this conversation to provide patches > and effort, and I'm doing just that. Thank you for doing this, btw. Over the weekend, this became a discussion where none of the participants seemed to be listening to the others and it be

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2022-12-05 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Chuck Anderson [05/12/2022 13:06] : > > Would you lke to take perl-Term-ShellUI as well? It is a dependency > of kpcli which requires perl-File-KeePass. Otherwise I'm happy to > take it. Taken as well. Co-maintainers are welcome. Emmanuel ___ devel

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2022-12-05 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Miro Hrončok [05/12/2022 12:36] : > > perl-App-PFT orphan 1 weeks ago > perl-File-KeePass cra, echevemaster, orphan, 0 weeks ago > xavierb > perl-HTTP-Server-Simple-Authenorphan

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2022-09-26 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Miro Hrončok [26/09/2022 11:27] : > > perl-PatchReader orphan 1 weeks ago I have taken this since Bugzilla requires it, last time I checked. Emmanuel ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Retiring the pcre package from Fedora

2022-07-22 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Lukas Javorsky [22/07/2022 14:24] : > > perl-HTML-Template-Pro I'll build against pcre2 in the coming days (probably this weekend). Emmanuel ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedo

Re: Non Responsive maintainer

2022-07-04 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Ivan Chavero [04/07/2022 15:09] : > > I've been trying to contact the current nextcloud package maintainer > because there's a blocker bug [1]. Folks, when you're asking us if anyone knows how to contact the maintainer of a given package, you might want to consider actually giving us his name (b

Re: Maintainer Change

2022-05-19 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Steve Dickson [19/05/2022 14:21] : > > How is this done these days? The package is first orphaned then claimed by the new maintainer. https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/Package_Orphaning_Process/#claiming_ownership_of_an_orphaned_package Emmanuel

Re: The future of FMN (Fedora Messaging Notifications)

2022-05-16 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Aurelien Bompard [14/05/2022 09:39] : > > Please check it out if you're interested, it has an analysis of the existing > system and requirements for the next. > And the best time for feedback is now, before the work actually starts :-) One thing I've always wanted is to be able to have a daily/

Re: Do we have any policy for disabling inactive users

2022-02-16 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Stephen Snow [16/02/2022 11:21] : > > Perhaps the automation should do > just that, demote primary packager (from owner to co-maintainer) if > inactive for over a year and promote the main supporter for the year to > be the owner from co-maintainer. Can you de

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2022-02-08 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Jens-Ulrik Petersen [08/02/2022 17:21] : > > Anyone interested in keeping 'ikiwiki' and 'perl-Text-Markdown' around? perl-Text-Markdown has a BR on perl-HTML-Tidy but doesn't do anything with it. I'll submit a PR to remove it (and improve other things in that spec file). Emmanuel __

Orphaning perl-MouseX-App-Cmd and perl-HTML-Tidy

2022-02-06 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
Hello, folks. I've just orphaned two packages, perl-MouseX-App-Cmd and perl-HTML-Tidy. perl-MouseX-App-Cmd has been FTBFS for some time and there is no upstream to speak of. perl-HTML-Tidy's upstream has also stopped work on it. https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/perl-MouseX-App-Cmd https://src

Re: mock, %{buildroot}, fc35

2022-02-02 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Alain Vigne [02/02/2022 16:07] : > > Can someone explain to me why my .srpm [1] > is not building in mock ? This fails with the following message: RPM build errors: error: File not found: /builddir/build/BUILDROOT/libfungw-1.2.0-1.fc36.x86_64/usr/lib64/libfungw_mujs.* error: File not found:

Re: I quit packaging

2021-12-12 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Volker Fröhlich [12/12/2021 23:03] : > > All of my packages are up for grabs. For the curious, volter maintains the following packages: * cptutils * dans-gdal-scripts * e00compr * esniper * freexl * gdal * grass * libgeotiff * librasterlite2 * libspatialite * mingw-polyclipping * po

Re: Question for election candidates: do you support allowing Fedora src-git repositories to be hosted on a proprietary software git forge?

2021-11-30 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Michel Alexandre Salim [30/11/2021 15:22] : > > At the risk of straying off-topic, an approach I really like (which is > in the spirit of Git being distributed) is to use an open source forge > primarily, with GitHub only as backup. How do people using this setup prevent people from submitting P

Re: F36 Change: OpenLDAP 2.5 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-10-29 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Ben Cotton [19/10/2021 12:08] : > > == Benefit to Fedora == > Brings a stable and up-to-date version of OpenLDAP according to > upsteam release. OpenLDAP 2.4 will be out of support as soon as > OpenLDAP 2.6 is released which is planned for this year. Fedora will > be prepared for such a step. Si

Re: Fedora 💔 Java: The Death of Two SIGs

2021-09-29 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Peter Boy [29/09/2021 23:29] : > > Any ideas to get it started to fly? The first step should be to empty the group in FAS and remove its bugzilla account from component ownership in Bugzilla (I happen to think that this is not a good idea in general but it's even worse when the group has no acti

Re: perl-Data-Properties License change

2021-09-07 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Emmanuel Seyman [25/07/2021 22:42] : > > > Sometime over the coming week, I'm going to update the > perl-Data-Properties package from the current 0.02 to 1.05. > Among other changes, the license changes from ASL 2.0 to the Perl > license (GPL+ or Artistic). Upstream ha

Re: New RPM submission (dovecot-fts-xapian)

2021-08-20 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Ankur Sinha [20/08/2021 12:27] : > > I totally understand the point of the system we have in place, but I do > see how it doesn't quite address the case of upstream developers or > individuals who'd just like to maintain their few packages. To be fair, the system does address the case of the up

Re: The Death of Java (packages)

2021-08-11 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Stephen Snow [11/08/2021 12:08] : > > > > Even tried the review route, which is also beset with arbitrary > > > obstacles. > > > Wasn't able to download the build via the link provided. ??? Building a package with mock will create the build in /var/lib/mock/... No download should be required.

Re: The Death of Java (packages)

2021-08-11 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Stephen Snow [11/08/2021 11:37] : > > I feel the frustration you are expressing, and would like to help, nut > apparently I don't meet the Fedora Packaging standards. I'm curious as to what happened... > Even tried the review route, which is also beset with arbitrary obstacles. Again, what hap

perl-Data-Properties License change

2021-07-25 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
Hello, folks. Sometime over the coming week, I'm going to update the perl-Data-Properties package from the current 0.02 to 1.05. Among other changes, the license changes from ASL 2.0 to the Perl license (GPL+ or Artistic). Please holler if this creates a problem for you. Regards, Emmanuel _

Re: Why so long for EPEL-8?

2021-07-19 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Björn Persson [19/07/2021 13:05] : > > but if I could be notified > about updates of certain packages I'm interested in, then I could > choose to test those if I'm not too busy at the time. I don't know a > convenient way to do that, so I end up instal

Re: New RPM submission

2021-06-26 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Joan Moreau via devel [26/06/2021 19:36] : > > What is next ? The answer is the same one you were given two months ago. You need to seek out a sponsor: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_get_sponsored_into_the_packager_group Emmanuel ___ devel mai

Re: New RPM submission

2021-05-01 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Joan Moreau via devel [01/05/2021 09:21] : > > 1 - Those who have a great piece of software, simply willing to make it > available to the large public. In such case, there should be only quality > barrier of the package + rules of duration (i.e. added packages are not kept > in Fedora if not main

Re: New RPM submission

2021-04-30 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Joan Moreau via devel [30/04/2021 14:16] : > > 1 - How to get to the "packager" group ou forum or else ? We use FAS (https://accounts.fedoraproject.org/user/eseyman/) to manage Fedora developer accounts. FAS has the notion of groups, one of which is the packager group (https://accounts.fedorapro

Re: New RPM submission

2021-04-27 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Joan Moreau [27/04/2021 20:51] : > > Hi Emmanuel > > I am trying my best to foloow the process but I get nowhere > > Now I get a "koji" error ("AuthError: unable to obtain a session") That looks like a recurring kerberos issue. https://pagure.io/koji/issue/2063 https://pagure.io/releng/issue/

Re: The Death of Java (packages)

2021-04-27 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Fabio Valentini [26/04/2021 21:19] : > > I am not using any of > them, I don't like Java or any other languages targeting the JVM, and > don't get me started on the horrid Java ecosystem. Thank you for all the work you've done, Fabio. Emmanuel _

Re: New RPM submission

2021-04-25 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Joan Moreau via devel [24/04/2021 18:49] : > > It looks overwhelmingly complicated. Out of curiosity, which part of the process looks complicated. Perhaps we can simplify it. Emmanuel ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscr

Re: WARNING: The script foo is installed $HOME/.local/bin which is not on PATH

2021-04-18 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Sérgio Basto [18/04/2021 12:57] : > > Hi, > > $HOME/.local/bin which is not on PATH , $HOME/bin is in PATH, am I > missing something ? /etc/skel/.bashrc has contained the following: # User specific environment if ! [[ "$PATH" =~ "$HOME/.local/bin:$HOME/bin:" ]] then PATH="

Orphaning perl-re-engine-RE2

2021-03-11 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
Hello, folks. I've just orphaned the perl-re-engine-RE2 package. If someone wishes to take it up, it's yours. Be warned that the package has an open bug in Bugzilla: Bug #1922811 (perl-re-engine-RE2-0.14 is available) Regards, Emmanuel ___ devel maili

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-11-11)

2020-11-19 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Matthew Miller [19/11/2020 17:13] : > > Some packagers in Fedora do not have time to maintain the build dependencies > for the packages that they are actually interested in and have time to > build. I suspect that these packages are maintained only to the point where they can build (and thus be

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-11-11)

2020-11-13 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Kevin Kofler via devel [13/11/2020 00:52] : > > The one that keeps getting brought up is Tomcat, but I can tell you from my > personal experience that the Fedora Tomcat package has always been working > just fine (not only as a build dependency, but for its intended use as a web > application

Re: Lightly-maintained packages (was: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-11-11))

2020-11-12 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Miroslav Suchý [11/11/2020 18:05] : > > We already have "lightly-maintained packages" - it is called Copr projects. > Do we need something in between? The issue here is discoverabilty. If $PACKAGE is in a separate repository, be it a 'lightly-maintained' repo or a copr, how do we go about commun

EPEL8 Branch Request: perl-Data-GUID

2020-10-08 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
Hello, all. Ralf Corsepius has requested that someone give Paul Howarth and Jitka Plesnikova collaborator rights in bug #1870755 . Their FAS usernames are pghmcfc and jplesnik respectively. Is there someone on the list who can do this? Regards, Emmanuel _

perl-Unicode-MapUTF8 license change: GPL+ or Artistic -> MIT

2020-09-27 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
Hello, all. With version 1.12, the author of the Perl Unicode::MapUTF8 module has relicensed it under the MIT license. In pratice, the first package to contain the relicensed module is perl-Unicode-MapUTF8-1.14-1.fc34 with the license field only being updated in perl-Unicode-MapUTF8-1.14-2.fc34

Re: The Future of the Java Stack (also regarding ELN and RHEL)

2020-09-09 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Fabio Valentini [09/09/2020 00:19] : > > Can we please increase the bus / lottery > factor (= 1) for Java package maintenance in fedora? I know that at least one distribution bases its Java stack on Fedora's. Perhaps someonce could contact their maintainers and encou

Re: Lua 5.4.0

2020-06-30 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Tom Callaway [30/06/2020 18:00] : > > lua-event seems to be broken because of broken deps unrelated to Lua > 5.4: nothing provides perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.30.1) needed by > perl-Monotone-1.1-34.fc32.x86_64, so I left it alone. FTR, We've moved on to Perl 5.32.x so monotone needs to be rebuild agai

Re: Regarding behaviour of Gnome and Fedora members

2020-06-12 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Ty Young [12/06/2020 07:13] : > > > Some of the comments mentioned in my article took place on this mailing > list. Would it not be appropriate to post it here as a result? No, I don't think so. >Where on > Fedora's mailing lists

Re: Regarding behaviour of Gnome and Fedora members

2020-06-12 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Ty Young [12/06/2020 05:50] : > > So, could anything be done about any of this? I would propose that we keep discussions not related to the development of Fedora off the devel@ mailing-list. Emmanuel ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraprojec

Re: F30 security update submitted for stable "marked obsolete" instead of being pushed

2020-05-26 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Artur Iwicki [27/05/2020 06:25] : > > While I understand the mechanism, I think that this needs to be communicated > more clearly. I've been a packager for close to 3 years now and I admit until > I read this e-mail I wasn't quite sure whether "no updates after EOL" meant > "you can't submit stuf

Non-responsive maintainer check for avesh

2020-04-26 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
Hello, Anybody knows how to contact Avesh Agarwal (fas:avesh) ? I have a bug filed in Bugzilla that has not seen any action for 6+ months now. BZ: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1748553 Emmanuel ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedor

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

2020-04-01 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Clement Verna [01/04/2020 15:04] : > > What does NIH stands for ? Not invented here (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_invented_here for the gory details) Emmanuel ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an emai

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2020-03-30 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Scott Talbert [30/03/2020 14:38] : > > Because the maintainer (normunds) was non-responsive. I don't see any > commits from you?? Sorry, I was looking at perl-Data-Validate-Type, not at perl-Data-Validate-Domain. I've taken the package. Emmanuel ___

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2020-03-30 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Miro Hrončok [30/03/2020 20:24] : > > perl-Data-Validate-Domain orphan 1 weeks ago I've maintained this package for years now. Why is it considered it orphaned? Emmanuel ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedorapro

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-30 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Vitaly Zaitsev via devel [30/03/2020 12:42] : > > This is absolutely impossible. No proprietary software are allowed. I believe OP means that NVidia must provide a third-party repo for Fedora. Emmanuel ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproje

Re: Bugzilla signal/noise ratio

2020-03-22 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Daniel Pocock [20/03/2020 13:22] : > > > Over how many bugs and what time period were the requests generated? > > More than a year This is the core of your problem. Not responding to outstanding requests in a timely manner is a sure way to get more reminders. I suspect responding to these in a

Re: Bugzilla signal/noise ratio

2020-03-20 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
Hi, Daniel. * Daniel Pocock [20/03/2020 12:38] : > > - there were over 100 "outstanding requests" emails in my inbox Over how many bugs and what time period were the requests generated? > - there are numerous bugs about builds failing, FTBFS These bugs are signal and not noise. Not only are th

Re: Ideas for better development processes when maintaining hundreds of packages

2020-01-30 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Remi Collet [29/01/2020 15:18] : > > And I really prefer to see stabilization of our current tools and > infrastructure before breaking it again. Same here, to be honest. I'm far more held up in my work by the infrastructure breaking up from under me than the absence of any of the suggestions fr

Re: Orphaned ldapvi

2020-01-30 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Matěj Cepl [30/01/2020 14:54] : > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Orphaned_package_that_need_new_maintainers#Claiming_Ownership_of_an_Orphaned_Package Done! Emmanuel ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email

Re: Orphaned ldapvi

2020-01-30 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Matěj Cepl [30/01/2020 11:43] : > > If anybody wants it, let me know. I will gladly take it (fas user: eseyman). Emmanuel ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedor

Re: Ideas for better development processes when maintaining hundreds of packages

2020-01-28 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Stephen John Smoogen [28/01/2020 13:08] : > > You are assuming that maintainers actually check to see if a version > fixes an issue already. If a packager has 100's or 1000's of > packages.. there is no way they will have done so except on a 1 in a > million case set. I think if are going to aim

Re: Java Dev Group and Fedora Quality

2020-01-27 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Bill Chatfield via devel [26/01/2020 22:33] : > > I don't know if the problem is dnf or a library, but it is a serious problem. There are several issues here: - Different servers will transmit repository metadata at different speeds and you need to factor these out when trying to find bottlen

Re: Java Dev Group and Fedora Quality

2020-01-26 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Bill Chatfield via devel [25/01/2020 23:23] : > > I'd be willing to work on that if I can figure out how to recreate the group. > Can you point me in the right direction? SIGs are rather informal and none of them have a joining procedure that I know of. That said, this was already discussed on t

Re: Java Dev Group and Fedora Quality

2020-01-25 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Bill Chatfield via devel [25/01/2020 22:06] : > > I'm trying to find out what's going on with Java in Fedora. Fedora 31 was > released with a broken Eclipse. I subscribe to the java-devel mailing list > but there is no traffic there. As has been discussed time and time again on this mailing li

Re: Old changelog entries removal

2019-10-03 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Daniel P. Berrangé [03/10/2019 14:47] : > > FWIW, my approach is to purge all changelog entries older than 2 years > the first time I touch a package in January each year. Is there any value > in having guidelines to encourage some policy in this area, so maintainer > approach it in a consistent

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-10-02 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Matthew Miller [02/10/2019 13:33] : > >And there _are_ real tracking and review benefits to > having everything go through that workflow. > > Do you have an alternative proposal? I'm fine with the workflow we have now. Small and drive-by contributions can by contributed via

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Pierre-Yves Chibon [26/09/2019 16:07] : > > When we work on upstream projects, I think it's pretty standard now to always > go > via PRs, even for your own branch. FWIW, this workflow makes sense for one that has a community but it sounds very strange to do this on a project on which you are th

Re: gstreamer-plugins-base revival

2019-09-23 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Tom Callaway [22/08/2019 09:04] : > > I don't really want to own it, but I have dependent packages, so if no one > else does, I will claim it. Since this one is back, I'm planning to unretire perl-GStreamer and perl-GStreamer-Interfaces, which depended on this. Emmanuel

Re: Fedora 31 Beta Release Announcement

2019-09-19 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Kevin Kofler [19/09/2019 16:12] : > > That could have been prevented by policy, but deliberately was not, because > the people behind Modularity had exactly this (moving random packages to > module-only) as their hidden agenda. I'm quite certain that forbidding people to move to module-only wo

Re: Fedora 31 Beta Release Announcement

2019-09-19 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* John M. Harris, Jr. [17/09/2019 21:27] : > > I can provide a link to the vendor's website when I get home. I'm interested in this. Emmanuel ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedor

Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal (late): No i686 Repositories

2019-09-10 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* vvs vvs [10/09/2019 21:07] : > > I suppose that SIG is a much formal entity than just a bunch of > individuals performing some non-regular activities. The PHP SIG is barely more than one person, the Perl SIG has no regular meeting and the mailing list activity is not representative of the work

Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal (late): No i686 Repositories

2019-09-10 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* vvs vvs [10/09/2019 11:41] : > > And the primary reason why that SIG initiative never worked is that the > project didn't put any significant efforts to make that happen. I'm going to disagree with you here. Back in 2017, we went through a very long discussion which lead to the creation of the

Re: No longer supporting mailing lists:

2019-08-27 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Pierre-Yves Chibon [26/08/2019 09:44] : > > Our recommended solution is to find someone that would maintain the mailman3 > stack for us. Does this have to be mailman3 or can it be a different mailing list manager? Emmanuel ___ devel mailing list -- de

Re: Over 500 orphaned packages seeking new maintainers

2019-07-31 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Christopher [30/07/2019 13:20] : > > Is there anything special one must do to "Join" the Java SIG? I would > like to join. SIGs are rather informal and none of them have a joining procedure that I know of. You should subscribe to the mailing list, introduce yourself and request any commit right

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers (75 to be retired)

2019-07-26 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Kevin Fenzi [26/07/2019 09:25] : > > That said, we could: > * make a bugzilla user for every package named > 'packagename-ow...@fedoraproject.org' > * assign bugs for that package to that user (no ccs) Please don't do this. The best feature the system we currently use has is accountability. It'

Re: Discussion around app retirements and categorizations by the CPE team

2019-07-23 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Nicolas Mailhot via devel [23/07/2019 11:51] : > > That is not true. Search the list archive for Michael Zhang’s questions on > how to get Open Liberty in Fedora. About 4 months later, can anyone do a dnf > install open liberty, pointing to a Fedora repo? No but that's probably because he got se

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: x86-64 micro-architecture update

2019-07-22 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Josh Boyer [22/07/2019 15:56] : > > Would it be possible to include some basic instructions or a script > for people to run on their systems to see if they are AVX2 compliant? > That would help them assess the impact. you can find your cpu model by running the command: $ grep 'model name' /proc

Re: Discussion around app retirements and categorizations by the CPE team

2019-07-17 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Peter Robinson [17/07/2019 14:07] : > > It would be useful to have the CPE mission linked to directly, it's > mentioned a number of times in the post but I don't see a direct way > to get to it. It's in the first link on that page: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/outcome-of-the-cpes-team

Re: Discussion around app retirements and categorizations by the CPE team

2019-07-17 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
My initial reaction is that the lists of applications in categories 1 and 2 are very short. My second reaction is that this page doesn't sell me that I should use Python in any business-critical software... Is release-monitoring.org also maintained by the CPE? It's being broken for ages and I fee

Re: Inconsistent dnf provides result

2019-06-02 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Georg Sauthoff [01/06/2019 19:40] : > > But what about the `dnf provides` output? > > It looks like something is going wrong in the process that generates the > file-index. Should I open a bug for this, as well? And where? Wow, that git history is messy... Please file a bug against the package

Re: Orphaning elasticsearch

2019-04-14 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Luis Enrique Bazán De León [14/04/2019 08:22] : > > I can work on it I've transferred the package to you, Luis. Good luck with it! Emmanuel ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedor

Orphaning elasticsearch

2019-04-14 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
Hi, folks. A while back, I realized that I was the main admin for the elasticsearch package. Given that I'm not using elasticsearch these days (I signed up for co-maintainership because I maintain the perl bindings for ES) and with the upcoming retiring of most of the Java stack in Fedora, I just

Re: [Fwd: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 2 weeks)]

2019-03-18 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Sérgio Basto [19/03/2019 00:03] : > > I though it was just one person which decide orphan his 259 packages Mikolaj is the last actif member of the Java SIG. Emmanuel ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-15 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Richard W.M. Jones [15/03/2019 20:23] : > > These are very important packages. What do we have to do here? I'm going to repeat this until it sinks in... If you (this is the generic you, not you specifically) want these packages to be in the distribution, you need to step up and ask for maintai

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

2019-03-13 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Hans de Goede [13/03/2019 08:51] : > > A solution for this needs to be found and be in place *before* dropping > these packages not the otherway around. We've known the solution for months, now. If you (this is the generic you, not you specifically) want these packages to be in the distribution

Re: Ditch RPM in favor of DPKG

2019-02-19 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Dridi Boukelmoune [19/02/2019 11:03] : > > Three of those packages are heavy on Perl code, and I'm not a Perl > Monk. I tried to CC perl-sig as per the guidelines [1] (also tried with > the mailing list address) but bugzilla replied kindly: > > CC: perl-sig did not match anything The Perl S

Re: Orphaned packages that will be retired (and everything will most likely burn)

2019-02-15 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Hans de Goede [15/02/2019 12:09] : > > And automatic scripts really just should hand it over to the first > co-maintainer > in the list. This inspires two observations (which I'm sure you already know). * There's no such thing as "the first co-maintainer" There are co-maintainers and they all

Re: Proposal: Stewardship Group / SIG for taking care of otherwise "module-only" packages

2019-02-13 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Fabio Valentini [13/02/2019 13:58] : > > It's fine for now, since the ant hasn't been retired from the master > branch - yet. > Once that happens, it will not be available from the regular repos, > but only from the modular repos. The issue here is that, if we have someone who can maintain ant,

Re: Proposal: Stewardship Group / SIG for taking care of otherwise "module-only" packages

2019-02-13 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Ron Yorston [13/02/2019 08:45] : > > What causes a package to move? I guess it doesn't just happen > spontaneously, so presumably it's a choice the maintainer makes. It isn't really a move per se. A regular package can be copied into a module. If the package is then orphaned/retired, it ceases

Re: Orphaned packages that will be retired (and everything will most likely burn)

2019-02-12 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Tom Hughes [12/02/2019 09:15] : > > So basically the module squad have managed to ensure that everything > that relies on ant to build is going to have to modularise or else be > forced out of the distribution then... Once more with feeling: if you want ant as a package, all that is needed to ma

Re: Retiring perl-perlmenu

2019-02-11 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Emmanuel Seyman [29/01/2019 00:35] : > > I maintain perl-perlmenu in Fedora and I will be retiring it at the end > of the week unless someone offers to maintain it instead. Tha package has been retired. Emmanuel ___ devel mailing list

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: MongoDB Removal

2019-01-31 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* John Harris [30/01/2019 21:09] : > > I'm offline for the night, but figured I'd head this off at the pass. I am > not > an attorney, and this does not constitute legal advice. On that note, I'm going to recommend that legal discussions take place on the legal list, not the devel one. I'm also

Retiring perl-perlmenu

2019-01-28 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
[ perl-devel is in cc: ] Hello, all. I maintain perl-perlmenu in Fedora and I will be retiring it at the end of the week unless someone offers to maintain it instead. For the record, I would advise against this since upstream no longer exists and nothing depends on the particular package. Emman

Re: The "see-also" field in bugzilla

2019-01-15 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Jan Synacek [15/01/2019 12:45] : > > Unless I'm missing something, you have to use "External Trackers" on both > sides. With "SeeAlso", you specified it in one bugzilla and it > automatically showed in the referenced one. This only works if both bugs are in the same instance. There's never been

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