Re: open source vs. constructionist learning

2010-04-13 Thread John Watlington
Carlos, This was posted to the wrong list. Please post questions about constructivist learning to IEAP where people who study education can provide a real answer. wad On Apr 12, 2010, at 9:40 PM, Carlos Nazareno wrote: > Questions: > > A) Syntax vs. Algorithms > > Scenario 1: > complex

Re: Flash + AIR on OLPC

2010-04-11 Thread John Watlington
On Apr 11, 2010, at 8:56 PM, James Cameron wrote: > On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 08:51:01PM -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: >> But hey. Flash developers want Flash in it. It's gotta be good for >> something. > > My guess is that it is handy for repurposing the system for > entertainment usage. (I don'

Re: Flash + AIR on OLPC

2010-04-11 Thread John Watlington
On Apr 11, 2010, at 7:08 PM, Carlos Nazareno wrote: > Hey Martin! JD also hooked us up with Tom Nguyen, product manager for > the Flash Player and here's what Tom said: > > "Great to meet you. I actually recently graduated with an MA in > Education from Stanford, where I spent a bit of time foc

Re: suspend in XO-1.5

2010-04-10 Thread John Watlington
On Apr 10, 2010, at 10:03 PM, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > Given that several times I had the lid closed for 45 minutes, and that > the browser functioned normally as soon as I opened the lid -- I'm led > to conclude that my unmodified B2 *did* support operation of the WLAN > across suspend/resume.

Laptop Serial Number Format

2010-04-09 Thread John Watlington
The XO serial numbers are structured as follows AABYWWS AA - Area, where SH is QSMC (Shanghai), and CS is CSMC (Changshu) B - Factory Y - Last digit of year of production WW - ISO week number of production S - unique identifier (in hex) Example: SHF80801FA0 is a laptop made in Factory 6

USB keyboard replacement

2010-04-05 Thread John Watlington
I have been installing USB keyboards in a few XO-1.5s, and took a recent opportunity to document the process: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_1.5_USB_Keyboard Cheers, wad ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/deve

Re: Slowing down an XO-1.5

2010-03-30 Thread John Watlington
On Mar 30, 2010, at 9:56 AM, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: >> Is there a simple way from OFW (or ACPI) to restrict >> the operating frequency of the processor in the XO-1.5 >> to be the lowest possible ? >> >> The relevant comment from a deployment was that they >> can't use full speed XO-1.5 motherb

Re: Slowing down an XO-1.5

2010-03-30 Thread John Watlington
On Mar 30, 2010, at 2:48 AM, James Cameron wrote: > They'd also notice the graphics performance differences, and that > wouldn't be amenable to a simple fix. Correct, and they would still get twice the memory and roughly 1.5 times the storage (JFFS2 is compressed). What I didn't mention is that

Slowing down an XO-1.5

2010-03-29 Thread John Watlington
Mitch, Is there a simple way from OFW (or ACPI) to restrict the operating frequency of the processor in the XO-1.5 to be the lowest possible ? The relevant comment from a deployment was that they can't use full speed XO-1.5 motherboards as replacements for XO-1 motherboards. They think kids w

Re: Adobe Flash 10.1 + AIR 2.0 on the XO

2010-03-25 Thread John Watlington
On Mar 25, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Tiago Marques wrote: > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 1:26 AM, Carlos Nazareno wrote: > Oh dear. Googling HQTube ended up with the top 2 entries being porn > sites :-/ I think something needs a project name change :) > > Indeed, hence the link in my e-mail, to avoid confus

Re: "Inline" power supply (was: Re: Longer XO transformer power cord in the plans?)

2010-03-16 Thread John Watlington
er to provide them ? wad On Mar 16, 2010, at 9:49 AM, Sascha Silbe wrote: > On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 12:23:37AM -0400, John Watlington wrote: > >> We are considering changing from a "wall wart" design to an "inline design", >> for the following reasons: [...

Re: Fuzzy screen problem in Nicaragua

2010-03-15 Thread John Watlington
On Mar 15, 2010, at 2:13 PM, German R S wrote: > El 15/03/10 11:48, John Watlington escribió: >> >> On Mar 15, 2010, at 12:46 PM, German R S wrote: >> >>> El 13/03/10 21:47, Martin Langhoff escribió: >>>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 12:02 PM, German R S >

Re: Fuzzy screen problem in Nicaragua

2010-03-15 Thread John Watlington
On Mar 15, 2010, at 12:46 PM, German R S wrote: > El 13/03/10 21:47, Martin Langhoff escribió: >> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 12:02 PM, German R S >> wrote: >>> The problem in Nicaragua is that we have more than 0.1%, we think >>> that the >>> percentage is around 1%. Please provide us with ser

Re: GNOME hesitance build 112

2010-03-14 Thread John Watlington
Time to suspend may vary based on the SD card. On Mar 14, 2010, at 8:43 PM, James Cameron wrote: > I've just tested for this, and I can't reproduce the symptom you > describe. Typing continuously is echoed continuously, in the Text > Editor. > > If I stop typing for long enough, the power LED g

Re: XO-1.5 keyboard

2010-03-11 Thread John Watlington
Hmm. I need to communicate more. There have been a number of changes in the XO-1 keyboard since production started. First, the flex circuit layout was changed to fix a problem with the CTRL/ALT keys (the spacing bump for those keys was inexplicably slightly below the minimum reliably reproducea

Re: q3a35 problem

2010-03-11 Thread John Watlington
On Mar 11, 2010, at 1:13 PM, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: >>> XO-1.5 B2 (unmodified hardware). At ok prompt did 'flash u: >>> \q3a35.rom'; >>> after restart did 'fs-update u:\os112.zd'. That failed (with a >>> message >>> about only 1 block being written). >> >> I've tested q3a35.rom with fs-updat

Re: q3a35 problem

2010-03-11 Thread John Watlington
I've tested q3a35.rom with fs-update several times, with no problems. You have to ensure that the firmware reflash actually occurred properly before continuing. I can also verify that q3a34.rom should NOT work for you. It has serious fs-update problems and should not be used. Cheers, wad On Mar

Re: OLPC hardware: what if there was an SDR modem / chipset?

2010-03-09 Thread John Watlington
form factor but use USB as the interconnect. We provide both USB and SDIO to the connector, but only use SDIO. Cheers, wad > On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:10 PM, John Watlington > wrote: > > On Mar 7, 2010, at 10:24 PM, Tiago Marques wrote: > > Hi Wad, > > Been reading some

Re: q3a34 released

2010-03-08 Thread John Watlington
Please trac this, and try to provide a more verbose description. It sounds interesting... wad On Mar 8, 2010, at 6:15 PM, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > Still has the problem (also seen in earlier q3a3_ versions) that > when I > power on with my USB hub plugged in, if I hold down the 'check' game >

Re: surprisingly early suspend

2010-03-08 Thread John Watlington
On Mar 8, 2010, at 6:52 PM, John Gilmore wrote: >> Perhaps the suspend/sleep process should be disabled until the >> laptop is >> assigned a child's name and color preference on first boot. I find >> sleep to >> be more disorienting, as the screen is turned off (my laptop broke!) >> and it >>

Re: OLPC hardware: what if there was an SDR modem / chipset?

2010-03-08 Thread John Watlington
On Mar 7, 2010, at 10:24 PM, Tiago Marques wrote: > Hi Wad, > > Been reading some "lost" e-mails, sorry to be bumping this up. > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 10:35 PM, John Watlington > wrote: > >> On Jan 27, 2010, at 12:17 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighto

Re: surprisingly early suspend

2010-03-07 Thread John Watlington
On Mar 8, 2010, at 12:05 AM, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: >> Suspend happens after fifteen seconds of no UI interaction >> (there are other criteria as well). > > What I was surprised by was that suspend occurred when I failed to > type > in ("UI interact" within its time limit) the name it prompted

Re: surprisingly early suspend

2010-03-07 Thread John Watlington
Suspend happens after fifteen seconds of no UI interaction (there are other criteria as well). We are trying to ensure that this suspend is transparent to the user. Currently, screen dimming is "wrongly" tied to suspend (not sleep) timing. This has recently been a subject of vigorous debate, a

XO-1.5 keyboard

2010-03-04 Thread John Watlington
Paul, I checked and all the power supplies that should be needed for wake-on-USB are present in XO-1.5. All ports may be powered in suspend, if the Linux USB driver supports it. The internal USB port (P4, which is present on the board at R392/R393) used by the two mock-ups provides power con

Re: Fuzzy screen problem in Nicaragua

2010-01-29 Thread John Watlington
Daniel, That looks like a problem with one of the two column driver ICs. Those are bonded directly to the glass, and can't be replaced --- the entire screen should be replaced. Chalk it up to infant mortality, and let us know if the percentage of affected units exceeds 0.1%. Thanks for the w

Re: Lots of broken chargers in Nicaragua

2010-01-28 Thread John Watlington
Ismael, Please provide percentages, not adjectives like "BIG". Uruguay has reported problems with the adapters in the past, but the complaint was that the pins that plug into the wall outlet were breaking off, not that the cords were breaking. Regards, John On Jan 28, 2010, at 1:41 AM, ismae

Re: OLPC hardware: what if there was an SDR modem / chipset?

2010-01-26 Thread John Watlington
On Jan 27, 2010, at 12:17 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > hi scott, thanks for joining in, here. > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:01 PM, C. Scott Ananian > wrote: >> Good luck with your SDR dreams. I think the most you can expect from >> OLPC is that, *if* the 10 improbable things you

Re: OLPC hardware: what if there was an SDR modem / chipset?

2010-01-26 Thread John Watlington
On Jan 26, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > (and i also specifically mentioned the gnu-radio project resources as > being one option. there are a _lot_ of people who would be > _extremely_ happy to not have to spend $750 on a USRP in order to do > free software development

Re: OLPC hardware: what if there was an SDR modem / chipset?

2010-01-25 Thread John Watlington
On Jan 26, 2010, at 4:58 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 6:33 PM, wrote: >>> the key questions to be asking are: in light of the massive volumes >>> involved with OLPC XOs, is SDR worth pursuing, given all the >>> development costs, but given all the benefits e

Re: OLPC hardware: what if there was an SDR modem / chipset?

2010-01-25 Thread John Watlington
On Jan 26, 2010, at 2:07 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton > wrote: > >> the key questions to be asking are: in light of the massive volumes >> involved with OLPC XOs, is SDR worth pursuing, given all the >> development costs

Re: offtopic question about high density wifi

2010-01-25 Thread John Watlington
Chris and Daniel are right. Doing this with SOHO APs is going to be difficult - it would require over 25 APs. You have moved into a area where you are probably better off using high-priced (i.e. multiple antenna) APs, and a centralized controller. wad On Jan 25, 2010, at 11:57 PM, da...@lan

Re: XO 1.5 died

2010-01-19 Thread John Watlington
We'll swap it out. We are very curious about such a young death. wad On Jan 19, 2010, at 12:47 PM, Rob Savoye wrote: > I fired up my B2 XO 1.5 unit yesterday, the power light came on, then > went off, and now it won't power up at all. The same power supply > works > fine with a G1G1 unit. I

Trac usage

2010-01-12 Thread John Watlington
Posted by Mikus on #9557: > But given the amount of developer-mystification that has resulted > from situations I observe, > from now on I intend to publish only the most clear-cut errors I > notice. If there happen to be > actual problems behind ambiguous observations -- let it be others >

Re: #9927 LOW Future : filesystem has trouble with large yum installs

2009-12-28 Thread John Watlington
On Dec 28, 2009, at 11:15 PM, Chris Ball wrote: > Hi, > >> While #9927 is personally interesting to me, can I instead divert >> your attention to the logs I just posted for #9865 ? > > Looks identical to the bug (#9702) with 3.3V not coming up fast enough > to successfully resume the internal SD

Re: #9927 LOW Future : filesystem has trouble with large yum installs

2009-12-28 Thread John Watlington
On Dec 28, 2009, at 11:15 PM, Chris Ball wrote: > Hi, > >> While #9927 is personally interesting to me, can I instead divert >> your attention to the logs I just posted for #9865 ? > > Looks identical to the bug (#9702) with 3.3V not coming up fast enough > to successfully resume the internal SD

Re: #9927 LOW Future : filesystem has trouble with large yum installs

2009-12-28 Thread John Watlington
Good intuition. That stopped the crashing... On Dec 28, 2009, at 10:22 PM, James Cameron wrote: > Have you tried with timeouts.timer_rtcwake set to zero yet? > > My current gut feel based on 9865_1.txt is that there is a race of > sorts > between rtcwake and the apparent removal of the block

Re: #9927 LOW Future : filesystem has trouble with large yum installs

2009-12-28 Thread John Watlington
While #9927 is personally interesting to me, can I instead divert your attention to the logs I just posted for #9865 ? Tmw. I will be in a position to verify this bug on a largish number of C1 machines, and can hand off the poster child (prebuild #2) to someone else. I would blame hardware, but

Re: Android, OLPC, and native hosting

2009-12-28 Thread John Watlington
On Dec 28, 2009, at 1:53 PM, Paul Fox wrote: > martin wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 7:25 PM, C. Scott Ananian >> wrote: >>> j/k. ;-) >> >> emacs is what I am using on both XO-1 and XO-1.5 so pretty good going >> ;-) (Along with vim! Peace!) >> >> Lots of people here want to claim we need E

Re: Android, OLPC, and native hosting

2009-12-28 Thread John Watlington
I just installed Fedora Eclipse on an XO-1.5 and launched it under Gnome.Granted, I ran into #9927 (/var/cache/yum too small)... Cheers, wad ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Android, OLPC, and native hosting

2009-12-28 Thread John Watlington
On Dec 28, 2009, at 8:54 AM, NoiseEHC wrote: > You can still create applications with > http://code.google.com/p/android-scripting/ > > With the existing tools it is true that children cannot create the > same quality applications what is possible with the Android SDK > environment (even if w

Re: Android, OLPC, and native hosting

2009-12-27 Thread John Watlington
On Dec 27, 2009, at 5:52 PM, NoiseEHC wrote: > >> Does Android not host its development tools because it doesn't run >> the >> X Window System? Since X already runs on most of the hardware that >> Android does, that wouldn't be too hard to remedy -- and would >> benefit >> the whole Android

Re: Marvell 88W8388 USB Development Dongles

2009-12-27 Thread John Watlington
We don't sell them, but I can send you a couple. Please send a mailing address. Cheers, wad On Dec 26, 2009, at 11:29 AM, vbx dev wrote: > OLPC XO-1 uses the Marvell 88W8388 USB wireless adapter. I want to > contribute to the development of the libertas/libertas-tf driver for > this wireless ad

Re: XO-3 super-o-fficial

2009-12-24 Thread John Watlington
On Dec 24, 2009, at 6:59 AM, NoiseEHC wrote: > ... > debug. You know, Android OS solves exactly the same problems Sugar has > been created to solve just it is faster, uses less memory, much > prettier, has an usable developer environment... Actually, I would argue that an operating system that d

Fwd: User Manual of CL1B

2009-12-24 Thread John Watlington
f yes, would you please send me the pdf/doc file ASAP? > > === > Arthur Huang > こう し めい > 黃 志銘 > NB2 PM > Quanta > 886-3-327 2345 ext 12362 > China: 610934<= here >150 2655 0362 <= here > -Original Message- > From: John Watlington [mailto

Re: XO-3 official

2009-12-23 Thread John Watlington
On Dec 23, 2009, at 9:33 PM, John Gilmore wrote: >> I would take it all with a large dose of salt. > > Also, as usual, the left hand at OLPC doesn't know what the right hand > is doing. The press release isn't on www.laptop.org, nor is there > anything in www.laptop.org or wiki.laptop.org about

Re: B2 WLAN ECO questions

2009-12-19 Thread John Watlington
On Dec 19, 2009, at 10:45 AM, Tiago Marques wrote: > Hi all, > > In an effort to migrate testing to a machine that resembles something > like the C1, I would like to perform the WLAN ECO(s) on the B2 1.5. > However, I found one for the B2 models and another for the B3: > > http://wiki.laptop.org/

C1 build

2009-12-18 Thread John Watlington
Turns out my mail to on Wednesday night was a little optimistic. On Thursday, we dug deeper into a self-test failure that we had all noticed but it hadn't been a high priority. It turns out that a series of errors were causing the lid switch in most XO-1.5 (B2-C1) laptops to "flap". We had left

XO-1.5 C1 bringup News

2009-12-16 Thread John Watlington
Greetings from cloudy Shanghai!We are completing the XO-1.5 C1 bringup at QSMC, and it is going OK. Mitch Bradley, Richard Smith and Paul Fox spent the last two and a half weeks working on getting the manufacturing tests integrated into Open Firmware. This both gives us more control over th

Re: Testing summary - 12 December 2009 Wellington, NZ

2009-12-11 Thread John Watlington
#9865 illustrates the danger in telling all of our testers to disable automatic suspend/resume. I would prefer that testers leave suspend/resume enabled, and give up their wireless. Suspend/resume has seen very little testing! Cheers, wad On Dec 11, 2009, at 8:11 PM, James Cameron wrote: > O

#9865: Laptop hangs on resume

2009-12-11 Thread John Watlington
Saw the IRC log from the bug triage meeting. Is anyone really testing using an OS greater > OS54 ? It happens readily on a B2 (if you enable suspend/resume). The only way this one isn't a blocker is if we disable suspend/resume by default. Richard and I both see this hang our machine multiple ti

Re: Alternative to Create a new wireless network

2009-12-07 Thread John Watlington
On Dec 8, 2009, at 1:04 AM, James Cameron wrote: > On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 09:04:52PM -0500, Reuben K. Caron wrote: >> If randomly set, how do we avoid channel overlaps and interference. > > OpenFirmware has a method to detect channel use and avoid it, and > it is > used in the NANDblaster featu

Re: Alternative to Create a new wireless network

2009-12-07 Thread John Watlington
On Dec 7, 2009, at 9:04 PM, Reuben K. Caron wrote: > Daniel, > > Since we've run into problems with creating ad-hocs networks on the XO > 1.5 (1) (2), I've been thinking about this functionality, the change > in UI behavior and perhaps the decrease in usability and I don't like > it. I believe it

Re: Secure or Unsecure?

2009-12-07 Thread John Watlington
Chris, She probably has a machine with OS31 on it. I doubt olpc-update will work until she upgrades via OFW first. wad On Dec 6, 2009, at 5:03 PM, Chris Ball wrote: > Hi Caryl, > >> First, I don't know how to tell if the machine is secured or not. > > It's definitely unsecured. > >> As a

Re: side/side batt. life in suspend

2009-12-04 Thread John Watlington
The second test was similar: XO-1: 9h 5m XO-1.5: 12h 40m On Dec 3, 2009, at 11:52 AM, John Watlington wrote: > I'll be repeating this test, but the first pass was encouraging. > The battery life when the laptop is suspended (but running > the backlight and the WLAN) of an XO-1

Delay when booting XO-1.5 B2 laptop

2009-12-04 Thread John Watlington
There is an infrequent problem with the XO-1.5 B2 prototypes where they may not power-up properly. This would be indicated by the EC rapidly flashing the battery LED red. It then tries to power up the laptop again, frequenly succeeding. This will appear as a flash or two of the red battery LE

side/side batt. life in suspend

2009-12-03 Thread John Watlington
I'll be repeating this test, but the first pass was encouraging. The battery life when the laptop is suspended (but running the backlight and the WLAN) of an XO-1 and an XO-1.5 were compared. The XO-1 lasted 10h 20m. The XO-1.5 lasted 12h 15m. WLAN wakeups were disabled on the XO-1 to even the p

fs-update to ext. SD

2009-12-01 Thread John Watlington
Just a reminder that it is easy to use fs-update on external SD cards as well as the internal one. You just first have to type: devalias fsdisk /sd/d...@1:0 Cheers, wad ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/deve

Re: New F11 for XO-1.5 build 48

2009-12-01 Thread John Watlington
I would prefer to see the backlight dimming take place on a longer time scale (as Paul says, I'm frequently still reading when it happens) and the suspend happening much more aggressively. Does OHM have user configurable knobs ? Cheers, wad On Nov 30, 2009, at 8:00 PM, Paul Fox wrote: > chris

Re: New F11 for XO-1.5 build 47

2009-11-30 Thread John Watlington
On Nov 29, 2009, at 1:21 PM, Tiago Marques wrote: > On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Chris Ball wrote: >> Hi, >> >> >> You can also disable it using My Settings -> Power -> Automatic >> >> power management. >> >> (Cool, I didn't think that would work yet! But it does.) > > I also confirm th

Re: B3 with different RAM chips

2009-11-28 Thread John Watlington
Be aware that the test.sh script tends to be destructive to the device. If a device is close to failing (which is when you start seeing a larger number of errors), they will push it over the edge quickly. Some less reliable cards fail after as little as 900 GB written. Cheers, wad On Nov 28, 20

Re: sensors and bias

2009-11-26 Thread John Watlington
The bias for port B is used for port F (the DC input). Port F has no bias generator, and would have to use another port's, regardless of whether it was DC coupled or not. wad On Nov 26, 2009, at 7:18 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: > Hi, > > On XO-1, we had an ALSA switch that enabled mic bias. This wa

XO-1.5 boot options

2009-11-25 Thread John Watlington
Sending out the latest boot options chart. The change is that MEM_ID0 is now used to indicate whether the memory chips used require CL3 or CL4 timing. Regards, wad BootOptions.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.l

Re: Power LED not switching to green even when fully charged

2009-11-25 Thread John Watlington
It is a bug. Please trac it. On Nov 25, 2009, at 7:18 AM, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: > Hi all, > > I just noticed that even after a night of charging an XO-1.5 the > power LED is still orange and hasn't switched to green (as it did > with the XO-1 when the battery was fully charged). > >

Re: New F11 for XO-1.5 build 45

2009-11-24 Thread John Watlington
I like how the uncompressed .img file for os45 is only 200MB. Perhaps it isn't complete ? I checked, and neither os44 or os43 provided a .img version. Cheers, wad On Nov 24, 2009, at 6:21 PM, Chris Ball wrote: > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_1.5 > http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/f11-1.5/os45 >

Re: B3 with different RAM chips

2009-11-23 Thread John Watlington
Trac it. No, we have seen nothing that leads us to believe that we have memory corruption problems w. B2s. Software errors are a much more likely cause. wad On Nov 23, 2009, at 6:56 PM, Tiago Marques wrote: > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 7:19 PM, John Watlington > wrote: >> >&g

Re: B3 with different RAM chips

2009-11-23 Thread John Watlington
On Nov 23, 2009, at 1:55 PM, Tiago Marques wrote: > On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Mitch Bradley wrote: >> Tiago Marques wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> The hardware page for the XO 1.5 doesn't show the clockspeed of the >>> RAM chips used. CAS 3 looks like very aggressive timings for cheap >>> DDR

Re: OLPC France repair workshop report

2009-11-22 Thread John Watlington
On Nov 22, 2009, at 4:02 PM, LASKE, Lionel (C2S) wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > OLPC France has organized a XO repair workshop on November 19th at / > tmp/lab near Paris. > > Detail report is on: http://olpc-france.org/wiki/index.php? > title=Compte-rendu_atelier_r%C3%A9paration_19/11/2009 > > >

Re: B3 with different RAM chips

2009-11-20 Thread John Watlington
I suggest that we dedicate the unused memory ID 0 jumper (GPIO9) to indicate that this DRAM is present. Thanks for reminding me, as Richard and I wanted to add another jumper since we've used them all up. wad On Nov 20, 2009, at 2:51 AM, Mitch Bradley wrote: > I have a B3 with 1 GiB of memory,

Help! XO-1.5 Suspend/Resume blockers

2009-11-19 Thread John Watlington
This is a call for help on getting suspend/resume working on the XO-1.5. By removing the libertas (WLAN) drivers (both from the loaded modules and the filesystem), OS42 can finally suspend/resume with some success on B2s. Instructions on how to test this are at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO1.5_

Re: Why does Sugar mount removable volumes ?

2009-11-17 Thread John Watlington
As 1.5 and other portable devices are using SD as their main storage: What is a removable volume ? On Nov 18, 2009, at 1:10 AM, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > I have the subdirectories for some Activities installed on my > "permanent" SD card (it's in the "external" slot of my XO-1.5). > Os42 is not m

Re: Information on XO-1 power efficiency

2009-11-17 Thread John Watlington
On Nov 11, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Hal Murray wrote: > Has anything interesting changed in this area for XO-1.5? YES! XO-1.5 no longer uses any USB devices internally. We used SDIO instead. This not only provides lower power operation to start with, it also should allow us to suspend/resume much

Re: OS and Firmware testing for XO 1.5 B2

2009-11-17 Thread John Watlington
Thank very much for this report. Please trac serious problems! Comments inline, wad On Nov 15, 2009, at 2:51 PM, Tiago Marques wrote: > Hi all, > Here's some data I collected: > > Firmware Q3A13-Q3A15: > - > OS30: > hdparm -t /dev/mmcb

Re: XO-1.5 slow disk writes

2009-11-17 Thread John Watlington
Good catch, Ben! In fact, I don't think either the XO-1 or XO-1.5 needs to sync before suspend.Maybe before a sleep, but not an aggressive suspend. A more vexing problem is not cutting SD power until it has finished completing its write. To address that problem, I propose trac #9692. Chee

Re: XO-1.5 slow disk writes

2009-11-17 Thread John Watlington
There is no reason to believe that form factor is the crucial difference. I see variation between manufacturers and device class, with little correlation to size (full size vs. micro). Your full size Sandisk is likely to be an extreme III (class 6) versus the class 2 OEM version that we use in

Re: XO-1.5 slow disk writes

2009-11-17 Thread John Watlington
We already tried running the SD interface at half speed to reduce power dissipation. It runs at full speed by default. wad On Nov 17, 2009, at 12:49 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: > Hi Daniel, > >> Today I tried to figure out why running "sync" often takes 5-10 >> seconds >> or longer. This slow

Re: XO-1.5 B3

2009-11-14 Thread John Watlington
On Nov 14, 2009, at 5:51 PM, Tiago Marques wrote: > Hi John, > > On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 3:18 PM, John Watlington > wrote: >> >> ... >> There are several changes from B2: >> ... >> - use of QMI WLAN module (instead of AzureWave). The WLAN card >

XO-1.5 B3

2009-11-14 Thread John Watlington
We received 15 XO-1.5 B3 motherboards Friday, straight from the assembly line. Five of them have been packaged in CL1A cases for 1CC developers, and another 5 are running tests on the sawzall testbed (outside the tech room). There are several changes from B2: - change in SDIO slot assignment

Re: Max throughput with XO on 802.11G

2009-11-13 Thread John Watlington
Yep. There is a lot of overhead, and there are also limitation in the connection between the host and the network interface. You should upgrade to a newer OS image, however, You want to have the latest libertas firmware (this may not improve the performance, but it makes your results mo

Re: Warning for using XO 1.0 power adapters with B2 XO 1.5s

2009-11-10 Thread John Watlington
More details at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO1.5_Power_ECO Cheers, wad On Nov 10, 2009, at 6:07 PM, Richard A. Smith wrote: > Some testing in Uruguay has uncovered that the 25W power limit in > B2's internal DC/DC converter is not functioning correctly. > > The result is that if you _heavily_

Re: XO-2 canceled, replaced by XO-1.75 and XO-3.0

2009-11-03 Thread John Watlington
Damn. I'm always the last to know On Nov 3, 2009, at 10:51 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > The ever entertaining Prof. Negroponte surpasses all expectations > in his > latest performance: > > http://www.xconomy.com/boston/2009/11/02/negroponte-outlines-the- > future-of-olpc-hints-at-pa

Re: OFW Q3A15

2009-11-03 Thread John Watlington
If you think you might be having troubles with overheating on your XO-1.5, the heat spreader is suspect. After removal (to change the SD, check out the motherboard, etc) and sometimes even before then, the heat spreader doesn't make good contact with the VX855 and the CPU. I suggest bending the

Re: XO 1.5 hang on "Type your name" screen

2009-11-02 Thread John Watlington
I had one machine (w. old touchpad) which absolutely refused to acknowledge the ESC key. But I could trigger a self-test using the left-most gamepad key, and the keyboard was definitely working. I finally got it to enter OFW by touching the mousepad briefly before pressing the escape key. You c

Re: GPIOs

2009-10-09 Thread John Watlington
On Oct 9, 2009, at 8:11 AM, Paul Fox wrote: > john wrote: >> >> I'm proposing a new GPIO map for XO-1.5 B3 and beyond. >> >> The changes are: >> - Moved the control signals for the internal and external SD ports >> and the WLAN around to match new port assignment. >> >> - The power control for

SDIO power work-around for B2

2009-10-08 Thread John Watlington
Chris, Mitch, I would like to wire up GPIO2, otherwise known as MSDT, to control power to SDIO slot #2 (WLAN) after an ECO. The ECO will be one trace cut and one blue wire. I don't know where in the plumbing this should happen (a quirk in the SD stack, allowing it's reuse in B3 ?) but I bel

XO-1.5 SD port assignments

2009-10-07 Thread John Watlington
We have to reassign the SD ports on the XO-1.5, due to a newly discovered problem with the predefined power control pin for slot 2. We have two "devices", the WLAN and the external SD slot, where we might want to maintain power throughout suspend. These will be assigned to ports 1 and 0 respect

Re: Woodhouse on flash storage

2009-10-07 Thread John Watlington
Coincident with the industry-wide change to managed Flash is the change to smaller transistors and storing multiple data bits per cell (MLC, vs. SLC or single bit per cell). This has brought a huge increase in error rates, and a decrease in reliability and erase cycle lifetime. The bad news

Re: OLPC XO 1.5 overheating problems

2009-10-06 Thread John Watlington
On Oct 6, 2009, at 4:55 AM, Tiago Marques wrote: > Hi John, > > On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 6:45 AM, John Watlington > wrote: >> >> On Oct 3, 2009, at 12:16 PM, Tiago Marques wrote: >> >>> On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Ed McNierney wrote: >>>

Re: OLPC XO 1.5 overheating problems

2009-10-05 Thread John Watlington
On Oct 3, 2009, at 12:16 PM, Tiago Marques wrote: > On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Ed McNierney wrote: >> Tiago - >> >> Well, everyone gets to contribute something to thermal problems :-) Actually, the average heat sources are (in descending order): the companion chip (graphics engine, memor

Re: Woodhouse on flash storage

2009-10-05 Thread John Watlington
On Oct 5, 2009, at 11:56 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Martin Langhoff > wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Chris Ball wrote: >>> I don't think there's much we can use Dave's advice for given the >>> choice of microSD. The fact that Woodhouse is right doesn'

Use of XO-1 power adapters w. XO-1.5

2009-10-03 Thread John Watlington
Mitch, Regarding your note on IRC about power adapters: no, I hadn't noticed any problems with using XO-1 adapters with XO-1.5 laptops. There are various flavors of XO-1 adapters, in 15 and 17W flavors, from multiple vendors. At B2 bringup we had problems with a prototype they had lying aro

B2 build status

2009-09-17 Thread John Watlington
When Quanta finally started the build at 7PM on Wed. they discovered two problems: A - zcat to one of the three candidate microSD cards were taking four to six times longer than it should have. B - The units were powering off occasionally when turning on the WLAN card. They had to stop producti

XO-1.5 B2 bringup

2009-09-15 Thread John Watlington
The XO-1.5 bringup is proceeding smoothly. At this time, Mitch is working on streamlining the production test process and integrating the production test code into Open Firmware and our Linux releases. This will eliminate the need for OLPC to continuously support Quanta's separate production tes

Re: [Sugar-devel] Is Project Ceibal violating the GNU General Public License?

2009-08-24 Thread John Watlington
On Aug 24, 2009, at 1:03 PM, Sebastian Silva wrote: > Pareciera ser que estamos en una situación de violación de la > licencia... > > Una pregunta, deduzco entonces que OLPC no está a cargo de > entregar las claves de desarrollador para las XO que están en Perú - > me pregunto: Las maquinas Per

This week in the life of CL1B

2009-08-23 Thread John Watlington
A small number of XO 1.5 B1 boards have arrived and are in hardware testing. The Quanta team, working in secret, decided that the B-phase risk was too high to do in a single run and built a B1 motherboard. The availability of plastic for B-phase was delayed due to complications from minor m

Re: Disk layout for XO-1.5

2009-08-06 Thread John Watlington
On Aug 6, 2009, at 10:12 PM, Richard A. Smith wrote: > Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > >> Richard A. Smith wrote: >>> In the end we chose to use microSDHC cards. >> >> For MP, will they be soldered down or on contacts? > > PCB mount cell phone style connector. You can change the card but you > hav

Re: MPPT

2009-08-06 Thread John Watlington
The context is that we are trying to ensure that an Maximum Power Point Tracking algorithm can be implemented on the DC power input of the XO-1.5. On Aug 5, 2009, at 10:56 PM, Richard A. Smith wrote: > John Watlington wrote: > >> The problem comes from the need for the algorithm t

This week in the life of CL1B

2009-08-04 Thread John Watlington
This week showed a steady progress toward a B1 motherboard. The layout process with a six layer motherboard is going good and being finalized. Gerbers should go out any day. I had a brief scare for a couple of days when an SD card used for testing developed errors (one in 1MB written, on average

This week in the life of CL1B

2009-07-26 Thread John Watlington
The A2 wiki page has been updated (new photo and info): http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_1.5_A2 The good news is that we have a solution for the occasional SD errors! Details at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO1.5_SD_card_ECO I have a good circuit modification which enables 500K+ suspend/resume cycle

Re: [Techteam] XO-1.5 Kernel Update (i.e My Weekly Status)

2009-07-20 Thread John Watlington
We have often discussed the need for an audio DCON. It wouldn't take much -- the amount of memory required for a second of playback/record could be included in the codec. wad On Jul 20, 2009, at 4:41 PM, Richard A. Smith wrote: > Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > >> >> To handle unpredictable inter

Re: Availability of XO-1.5 ATest-2 machines

2009-07-20 Thread John Watlington
On Jul 20, 2009, at 12:37 AM, Richard A. Smith wrote: > Carlos Nazareno wrote: > >> Also, what determines the dynamic clock rate from 400MHz to 1GHz? Is >> this auto-scaling on demand like with the old AMD Athlon64's? Does >> the >> software automatically reduce speed to 400MHz when the unit is

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