Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-13 Thread Daniel Drake
On 12 April 2010 19:13, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: That's because of the exim. Do a 'yum install ssmtp' then a 'yum remove exim' and most of that problem goes away. the auto depsolving for '/usr/bin/sendmail' get exim by default because its the shortest name and comes first.

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-13 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On 12 April 2010 19:13, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: That's because of the exim. Do a 'yum install ssmtp' then a 'yum remove exim' and most of that problem goes away. the auto depsolving for '/usr/bin/sendmail'

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-13 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_1.5 http://build.laptop.org/10.2.0/os119 Compressed image size: 678.36mb (+0.01mb since build 118) Description of changes in this build: * kernel: allow negotiation of 5/10/15/30fps

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-13 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, I updated my XO-1.5s to 119 yesterday and was surprised to see that the screen rotation button still doesn't seem to work. Looking through the mailing-lists I didn't find any discussion about this topic which kinda surprised me. The openchrome driver hasn't previously had

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-13 Thread James Cameron
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9350 (xrandr screen rotation support) is still being worked. We did try with software frame buffer rotation enabled, but it did not perform well. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-13 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:27 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9350 (xrandr screen rotation support) is still being worked. We did try with software frame buffer rotation enabled, but it did not perform well. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sat, 2010-04-10 at 17:57 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: Finally, I guess you have thought of it, but by the time 10.2 will be out F11 repositories will be down and thus the builds totally frozen software-wise. I think it would have been better to rebase on F12 6 months ago. Now it's

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-12 Thread Peter Robinson
Hey Chris, On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_1.5 http://build.laptop.org/10.2.0/os119 Compressed image size: 678.36mb (+0.01mb since build 118) Description of changes in this build:  * kernel: allow negotiation of

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-12 Thread Daniel Drake
On 12 April 2010 14:51, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: I've got some more time and have finally had a chance to look at these further. From an initial looks it looks like your getting exim due to the cronie deps on /usr/bin/sendmail. If you add an explicit 'ssmtp' into the .ks that

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-12 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On 12 April 2010 14:51, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: I've got some more time and have finally had a chance to look at these further. From an initial looks it looks like your getting exim due to the cronie deps

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-12 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 04/12/2010 02:10 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: Which burnin package are you referring to? olpc-runin-tests-0.9.15-1.noarch? I don't have the XO near me to test but 'yum remove perl' will give you the answer. The runin scripts are all bash. Not sure why perl would be a dependency. Perhaps

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-12 Thread Paul Fox
smith wrote: On 04/12/2010 02:10 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: Which burnin package are you referring to? olpc-runin-tests-0.9.15-1.noarch? I don't have the XO near me to test but 'yum remove perl' will give you the answer. The runin scripts are all bash. Not sure why

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-12 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 04/12/2010 02:34 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: perl? I created them on the XO so anything that I used should have already been installed. Except for where I specified extra stuff I needed. :) like lm_sensors which requires perl. So I need to find a way to read the CPU temp without lm_sensors

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-12 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Richard A. Smith rich...@laptop.org wrote: On 04/12/2010 02:34 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: perl?  I created them on the XO so anything that I used should have already been installed. Except for where I specified extra stuff I needed. :) like lm_sensors which

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-12 Thread Daniel Drake
On 12 April 2010 15:45, Richard A. Smith rich...@laptop.org wrote: Except for where I specified extra stuff I needed. :) like lm_sensors which requires perl. So I need to find a way to read the CPU temp without lm_sensors or we somehow need to break lm_sensors use of perl. It's really easy

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-12 Thread Jon Nettleton
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On 12 April 2010 14:51, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: I've got some more time and have finally had a chance to look at these further.

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-12 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 04/12/2010 02:51 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: find /sys -name '*cputemp*' /sys/devices/platform/via_cputemp.0 Awesome! I'll change my scripts and remove that dependency. Thanks. -- Richard A. Smith rich...@laptop.org One Laptop per Child ___ Devel

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-12 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis
--- On Mon, 4/12/10, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: From: Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org Subject: Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119 To: Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com Cc: Devel devel@lists.laptop.org, Fedora OLPC fedora-olpc-l...@redhat.com Date: Monday, April 12

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-12 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
'yum remove perl' will give you the answer. Gentlemen - on some of my XO-1s I've installed perl onto my permanent SD card, rather than having it occupy jffs2. By doing so, I've saved about 33 MB of space in jffs2. Is that a large enough savings (given a 4000 MB XO-1.5) to be worth spending

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-12 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Mikus Grinbergs mi...@bga.com wrote: 'yum remove perl' will give you the answer. Gentlemen - on some of my XO-1s I've installed perl onto my permanent SD card, rather than having it occupy jffs2.  By doing so, I've saved about 33 MB of space in jffs2. Is

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-12 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, Gentlemen - on some of my XO-1s I've installed perl onto my permanent SD card, rather than having it occupy jffs2. By doing so, I've saved about 33 MB of space in jffs2. Is that a large enough savings (given a 4000 MB XO-1.5) to be worth spending this much discussion

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-12 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Mon, 4/12/10, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: From: Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org Subject: Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119 To: Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com Cc: Devel devel

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-12 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Gentlemen - on some of my XO-1s I've installed perl onto my permanent SD card, rather than having it occupy jffs2. By doing so, I've saved about 33 MB of space in jffs2. Is that a large enough savings (given a 4000 MB XO-1.5) to be worth spending this much discussion on ? Yes,

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-12 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis
--- On Mon, 4/12/10, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: From: Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com Subject: Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119 To: Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com Cc: Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org, Devel devel@lists.laptop.org, Fedora OLPC fedora-olpc-l

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: In the longer term its likely that it will be. The libraries in CentOS 5 are too old. The problem is that RHEL-6 isn't out yet, nor is there At least this XS guy is hopefuly that RHEL-6 will appear soon and XS 0.7 or

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-12 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
It will then be OK for a while until Sugar needs a newer version of a library I think there is an elephant in the living room to which too little attention is being paid. Consider Peru - they have a lot of XO-1 systems, on which it is unlikely that the newest version of Sugar will ever be

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-12 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Mikus Grinbergs mi...@bga.com wrote: It will then be OK for a while until Sugar needs a newer version of a library I think there is an elephant in the living room to which too little attention is being paid.  Consider Peru - they have a lot of XO-1 systems,

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-12 Thread Jon Nettleton
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On 12 April 2010 15:10, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: I don't have the XO near me to test but 'yum remove perl' will give you the answer. On XO-1.5 running something very close to 10.2.0 build 119, it wants to

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-12 Thread Jon Nettleton
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Mikus Grinbergs mi...@bga.com wrote: It will then be OK for a while until Sugar needs a newer version of a library I think there is an elephant in the living room to which too little

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-12 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On 12 April 2010 15:10, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: I don't have the XO near me to test but 'yum remove perl' will give you the answer. On XO-1.5 running something very close to 10.2.0 build 119, it wants to

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-12 Thread Peter Robinson
Believe me I'll be one of the first poeple adding the sugar packages to EL-6 branches and testing them but its not necessarily the golden path that some people think. In the short term of the first 12 months it will be fine, 18 months to 2.5 years it won't seem as good. I am not seeing where

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-12 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, There's not much point discussing it at the moment as RHEL-6 isn't out yet This is my feeling too -- I agree that RHEL and CentOS 6 will be a more attractive base than any of their previous releases have been, and we'll want to consider them then. Not much more to say until we know

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-11 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis
I guess something was left out from the Speak-14 installation in this build. Launching gives the following warning Cannot find cached 0sugar-launch implementation Tries for some more time and then dies. Was fine in os116. --- On Fri, 4/9/10, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: From: Chris Ball

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-10 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis
Unfortunately Record.activity is not really working yet. Filed #1931 with sugarlabs. Also GIMP is freezing the XO-1.5 as soon as you open an image. Both in Gnome and launched from Sugar. Hard reboot is the only way out. Should not be included in the build till shorted out. ntpdate is missing

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-10 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sat, 2010-04-10 at 01:47 -0700, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: Unfortunately Record.activity is not really working yet. Filed #1931 with sugarlabs. Is this on the XO-1.5, or also on the XO-1? I tested Record v65 yesterday on os129py and it was perfect. ntpdate is missing from the builds.

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-10 Thread Jon Nettleton
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com wrote: Unfortunately Record.activity is not really working yet. Filed #1931 with sugarlabs. Also GIMP is freezing the XO-1.5 as soon as you open an image. Both in Gnome and launched from Sugar. Hard reboot is the only

Updated OpenChrome on Debian (was: Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119)

2010-04-10 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 07:12:18AM -0700, Jon Nettleton wrote: This bug has been located and will be fixed in the next rpm of openchrome. I will post a link to an updated rpm also. BTW, is there a chance to get your updated versions of openChrome on a Debian system somehow? Some git repo I

Re: Updated OpenChrome on Debian (was: Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119)

2010-04-10 Thread Jon Nettleton
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-olpc-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 07:12:18AM -0700, Jon Nettleton wrote: This bug has been located and will be fixed in the next rpm of openchrome.  I will post a link to an updated rpm also. BTW, is there a

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-10 Thread Peter Robinson
Finally, I guess you have thought of it, but by the time 10.2 will be out F11 repositories will be down and thus the builds totally frozen software-wise. I think it would have been better to rebase on F12 6 months ago. Now it's way too close to the release date :-( I recommended F-12 which

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-10 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, Do you know of any place that has the Fedora 9 rpms? People are looking for them to add new apps functions and hacks on Sugar-0.82 machines but there are nowhere to be found. If F9 repos were still available, F11 builds might not even be needed for the XO-1. I just

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-10 Thread Jon Nettleton
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Sat, 4/10/10, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: From: Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org Subject: Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119 To: Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com Cc: Fedora