Re: XO-1.5 video rendering not always smooth

2009-12-20 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
> The support for the (brand new) video hardware
> found in the XO-1.5 is still in teething stages -- this is why the
> performance is bad. We've got the appropriate tickets open but it will
> take us some time to get there.

I searched, but did not find tickets specifically addressing "poor
motion" nor "cursor flicker" on XO-1.5.  Opened #9921 to make sure.

mikus

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Re: XO-1.5 video rendering not always smooth

2009-12-20 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/12/20 Mikus Grinbergs :
> In the new snow-1.xo Activity, the falling "white spots" are noticeably
> jerkier in os64 (XO-1.5) than in os10 (XO-1).
>
> Also, on os64 the (software?) cursor sometimes "flickers" annoyingly.
> It is always noticeable in the google-chrome browser (on Sugar), and for
> instance in the new version of the cartoonbuilder-7.xo Activity.  In
> contrast, the (hardware?) cursor in the Opera browser operates smoothly
> in os64 (on Sugar).

Thanks for the report. The support for the (brand new) video hardware
found in the XO-1.5 is still in teething stages -- this is why the
performance is bad. We've got the appropriate tickets open but it will
take us some time to get there.

Daniel
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XO-1.5 video rendering not always smooth

2009-12-20 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
In the new snow-1.xo Activity, the falling "white spots" are noticeably
jerkier in os64 (XO-1.5) than in os10 (XO-1).

Also, on os64 the (software?) cursor sometimes "flickers" annoyingly.
It is always noticeable in the google-chrome browser (on Sugar), and for
instance in the new version of the cartoonbuilder-7.xo Activity.  In
contrast, the (hardware?) cursor in the Opera browser operates smoothly
in os64 (on Sugar).

mikus

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Re: [Server-devel] XO 1.5 to XS-onXO1 behavior

2009-12-20 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 12:14 AM, James Cameron  wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 03:00:44PM -0800, Sameer Verma wrote:
>> When the XO1.5 associates with school-mesh-0 (I have to click on it in
>> the Neighborhood view) the association happens, but the XO1.5 gets
>> 169.254.xxx.xxx address, and beyond that the network is unusable.
>
> This is http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9768 and our current plan is
> wontfix.

Related, but this is a slightly different case from that bug:
associating to the "mesh network" that XS-on-XO run. It is equivalent
to running an XS with an oldstyle "active antenna".

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Re: Testing OS64 on XO1.5

2009-12-20 Thread James Cameron
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 01:20:37PM -0500, milan zimmermann wrote:
> 1) After reboot, or after a brief period of inactivity, the system
> sometimes does not connect to network, [...]

Deficiency of the B2 hardware, won't be fixed in B2, but will be (is)
fixed in the next hardware revision.

> 2) In the Record activity, sound does not work - I tried to record
> some fairly loud speach, saved it on the bottom, but on replay of the
> saved clipping, a very (etremely) low sound - almost no sound,
> certainly not distinquishable at all. Speakers were unmute and on max.

Thanks, I've reproduced this and raised a new ticket. #9375.
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9920

> 3) Record activity does not maximize the camera view to the whole
> screen (aftger hitting the maximize button)

Known problem, ticket #9890.
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9890

> 4) In Etoys, sound does work reasonably loud, but is very jittery.

Known problem, ticket #9375.
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9375

> 5) With power unplugged, leaving the XO1.5 untouched for 15 minutes
> (or so, did not measure exactly), all lights go off, only the power
> light flashes. This is OK, but no mouse or keyboard action , only
> holding the power button for about 2 seconds, brought the system back
> from sleep . Is this normal or expected? It does not seem right..

Intentional.

> 6) There is no shell activity. Is that an intention to hide the
> filesystem?

Intentional, yes.  It is only hidden.

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Re: Little issue with Midore

2009-12-20 Thread Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)
Hi,

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 20:38, César D. Rodas  wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> In the FC-11, The Midore Browser comes as the default browser. It looks
> good so far, but it has a little bug, well it is not a proper bug, the
> font-size is too big displaying messages.
>
> As I said before, it is not a proper bug, and I fixed it by setting the
> default font size to 6px, in the ~/.config/midori/config, and it looks
> better. Is there a way to set this configuration by default?, I think it
> could be done in the RPM itself, in a %post stage.

Not if this is a per user only setting. Isn't there a system-wide
configuration file ? If so, this file could be modified in the RPM.

Also, beware that the problem might not appear on a different screen
than th XO's. So by fixing this bug for the XO screen, you might be
introducing it (i.e. too small fonts) for other screens.

> who is takes care of Midore (or perhaps Gnome) packaging?

You can find that out using the Fedora PackageDB:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/midori

In our case, Peter Gordon is the Midori maintainer.

If you want to report this issue, bugzilla would be the place to go.


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Re: [Server-devel] XO 1.5 to XS-onXO1 behavior

2009-12-20 Thread James Cameron
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 03:00:44PM -0800, Sameer Verma wrote:
> When the XO1.5 associates with school-mesh-0 (I have to click on it in
> the Neighborhood view) the association happens, but the XO1.5 gets
> 169.254.xxx.xxx address, and beyond that the network is unusable.

This is http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9768 and our current plan is
wontfix.

Other devices, like Mac OS X, try for DHCP before trying link-local.

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Re: Testing OS64 on XO1.5

2009-12-20 Thread Paul Fox
milan wrote:
 > I was testing latest os (OS64) on XO1.5 with latest firmware (Q3A25)
 > this weekend. There are some thing that I think may be bugs, but
 
 > 5) With power unplugged, leaving the XO1.5 untouched for 15 minutes
 > (or so, did not measure exactly), all lights go off, only the power
 > light flashes. This is OK, but no mouse or keyboard action , only
 > holding the power button for about 2 seconds, brought the system back
 > from sleep . Is this normal or expected? It does not seem right..

this is normal.  first the screen dims, but the laptop is still
awake.  after short time, the laptop will sleep, leaving the
screen on.  during this period keyboard/mouse activity will wake
it up.  10 minutes later, the laptop will turn off the screen. 
at this point only the power button or the lid will wake it up.

 > 
 > 6) There is no shell activity. Is that an intention to hide the filesystem?

Terminal is there, it's just not marked as a "favorite" by default.  on
the home screen go to the list view (click in the far upper right.  find
Termina. and click in the star to make it a favorite.  it will now appear
in the ring when you go back to the previous view.

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Re: Testing OS64 on XO1.5

2009-12-20 Thread Ed McNierney
Milan -

> 1) After reboot, or after a brief period of inactivity, the system
> sometimes does not connect to network, or disconnects from the
> network, and shows nothing on the network neigborhood screen (many
> dots button), only the middle xo symbol, while there are many wireless
> networks around  - this happened at least five times in 6 hours of
> testing, either aftrer reboot or after a brief inactivity. No such
> problem on the XO1.0 system tested in parallel. This seems the biggest
> issue.

Thanks for the testing.  All B2 XO-1.5 machines (virtually all of the ones 
distributed outside of OLPC) cannot resume properly after suspending.  The WLAN 
will disappear and won't come back until you reboot.  This sounds exactly like 
the symptom you're seeing.  It's been fixed on later hardware and will be fixed 
in the production version, but it will never work properly on a B2 machine.  If 
you need WLAN access after suspend/resume (which will indeed occur after a 
"brief inactivity") use the Sugar Control Panel / Power settings to disable 
automatic power management - both checkboxes on that panel should be cleared).  
If you don't need WLAN operation, it is helpful if you don't clear this 
setting, so suspend/resume operation continues to be tested for more bugs.

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Testing OS64 on XO1.5

2009-12-20 Thread milan zimmermann
I was testing latest os (OS64) on XO1.5 with latest firmware (Q3A25)
this weekend. There are some thing that I think may be bugs, but
before reporting it I'd like to see if others experienced similar
problems.

Everything below applies to Sugar on OS64 on  XO1.5 - I did not test gnome.

1) After reboot, or after a brief period of inactivity, the system
sometimes does not connect to network, or disconnects from the
network, and shows nothing on the network neigborhood screen (many
dots button), only the middle xo symbol, while there are many wireless
networks around  - this happened at least five times in 6 hours of
testing, either aftrer reboot or after a brief inactivity. No such
problem on the XO1.0 system tested in parallel. This seems the biggest
issue.

2) In the Record activity, sound does not work - I tried to record
some fairly loud speach, saved it on the bottom, but on replay of the
saved clipping, a very (etremely) low sound - almost no sound,
certainly not distinquishable at all. Speakers were unmute and on max.

3) Record activity does not maximize the camera view to the whole
screen (aftger hitting the maximize button)

4) In Etoys, sound does work reasonably loud, but is very jittery.

5) With power unplugged, leaving the XO1.5 untouched for 15 minutes
(or so, did not measure exactly), all lights go off, only the power
light flashes. This is OK, but no mouse or keyboard action , only
holding the power button for about 2 seconds, brought the system back
from sleep . Is this normal or expected? It does not seem right..

6) There is no shell activity. Is that an intention to hide the filesystem?

Milan
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powerd or ohm?

2009-12-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi,

I think f11 for the XO 1.5 uses ohmd but from a recent message from
Paul I think the images for the XO-1 are configured to use powerd or
at least doesn't start ohmd by default.

Steve, is there any plan on this?

Thanks,

Tomeu

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Re: [Server-devel] XO 1.5 to XS-onXO1 behavior

2009-12-20 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 2:41 AM, John Gilmore  wrote:
> The least common denominator in the XO-1 and XO-2 clients is a
> connection to an access point.  So making the XS (on any hardware)
> provide a standard 802.11 access point would probably be the easiest
> path forward.

That's right. But Sameer is asking about XO-1 hardware running the
"XS" OS. When that happens, we don't require any extra hw, we just use
the Libertas device as a mesh gateway.

If you read back on this thread, you'll see discussion of hostap
drivers too, to make it run as an AP.

> As I recall there was some step in the XO-specific school
> "provisioning" (antitheft DRM?) that only works over the mesh.

Correct. Fixed in the 8.2.2 betas I've been publishing and on the F11
images too.

As for the 1.5 running as an XS -- it is squarely on my list. I am
talking with the Libertas team on the availability of a
thinmac/thinfirm driver+firmware combo that works with hostap. Once
that is available, the XO-1.5 can run its wifi as an AP.

If you don't want to wait, you can always use a USB-Wifi that is known
to work with hostap drivers under linux. Or a USB-ethernet + a
conventional AP.

cheers,


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