Re: [sugar] Display warnings in sugar

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 9:44 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 5:21 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008

Re: Is Cracklib really required in the OS image?

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 18 Jul 2008, at 18:24, Michael Stone wrote: >> We'd like to kill it but haven't gotten to it yet. Please help if you >> can! (Talk to dgilmore, dsd, and cscott for advice). > > Well other than weakly noting that the buil

Re: Is Cracklib really required in the OS image?

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Stephen John Smoogen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 1:13 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On 18 Jul 2008, at 1

Re: OFW sad face doesn't say why

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Happened to put in laptop BB a SD card copied over from laptop AA. > Pushed power-on, laptop BB showed me a sad face and powered down. > > Figured out why -- that SD card had a directory on it called > /security, and in t

Re: OFW sad face doesn't say why

On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 5:52 AM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, I am running a joyride build on that system. This whole > business of "what indicators need to be placed where" is a complete > mystery to me. That is why I use a "permanent" SD card, with my > develop.sig on that

Re: OFW sad face doesn't say why

On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 9:36 PM, John Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > security wizard at OLPC removed that recommendation from the Wiki > page, thus leading to your current troubles. If Mikus had followed your suggestion, we would not have found this (legitimate) bug. Thank you, Mikus. > It

Re: NAND out of space crash

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Jim Gettys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are two issues here that we should be sure to not intertwingle: > > 1) whatever behavior Sugar may have when low/out of space, during > operation, or at boot time. A number of independent issues here: a) the initscrip

Re: NAND out of space crash

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 1:55 PM, David Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> #6480 is fixed as of yesterday, should be in next joyride. > > Yeah. Since it was purely cosmetic I figured it might as well just wait > to come through 'naturally'. It's not purely cosmetic: in my testing the bogus acc

Re: NAND out of space crash

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 1:39 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A number of independent issues here: I have edited http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7125 to clarify the pieces of this bug and to make the component tasks (including #5317) more obvious. I have *not* attempt

Re: [laptop.org #16813] joyride builds failing due to insufficient space

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 6:03 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > sugar - 0.81.6-4.20080715git8137d5c37f.fc9.i386: Insufficient space > in download directory > /home/cscott/public_html/xo-1/streams/joyride/build2187-20080720_2235/devel_jffs2/install_root/var/cache/yum/olpc_development/pac

Re: NAND out of space crash

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> b) sugar should, ideally, start even if flash is full. It is >> currently failing when writing to ~olpc/.boot_time or some such, and >> crashing. > > In olpc-utils: usr/bin/olpc-session. This was done for performance >

Re: NAND out of space crash

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A few days ago you were getting a system into a NAND-full state. What > method did you find worked best (cat /dev/urandom >...) ? cat /dev/urandom > /home/olpc/space-filler cat'ing /dev/zero doesn't work nearly as well:

Re: dropping mkinitrd from recent Joyrides

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Came across an XO on which 'rpm -q kernel' listed two packages -- > from 0716 and from 0718. Wanted to do 'rpm -e' on the one from > 0716. That failed, because file '/sbin/new-kernel-pkg' could not be > found. Did 'yum

Re: [laptop.org #16813] joyride builds failing due to insufficient space

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Morgan Collett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marc Maurer (uwog) did it. I've asked dgilmore/uwog to untag the new libabiword from the olpc3 branch until the appropriate libabiword-plugins/pyabiword is available, so that libabiword doesn't break our builds in the int

Re: NAND out of space crash

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 3:57 PM, John Watlington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems like we should be able to produce a upgrade and > customize key that does this in one step, and preserves the > activation key for the laptop. Yes. The issues in the past have just been coordination-related. I

Re: For review: NAND out of space patch.

We should distinguish at least three solution spaces: a) UY's solution, based on a small patch to 656 b) A solution to include in 8.2 c) The "real" solution, in case there are limits to what we can do for 8.2. cjb's patch is primarily for (a), with applications to (b) and *perhaps* as a fail-sa

Re: NAND Full Requirement

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's the requirement for Uruguay NAND full situation. Uruguay's NAND full situation is different from the solution for 8.2, and the "real" solution for 9.1 (optimistically). The scale of the fix we can deploy for 656 is mu

Re: automated tests

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:20 AM, riccardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Is there already a facility for automated tests ? > (tinderbox + some-X-tool ?) http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Tinderbox More tests wanted! --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___

Re: NAND Full Requirement

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Chris Ball <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > > Hi All, Here's the requirement for Uruguay NAND full situation. > > Here's my proposal: > > * Uruguay should use something like the script I proposed, as well as > the visible warnings on disk full that they alrea

Re: no activities after 656 --> joyride. but wait...

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 4:36 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yes, i know joyride doesn't include activities. > > however, i had previously installed a couple of activities under > /home/olpc/Activities, which are still there. even these don't > show up after the upgrade. why wouldn't they? i'v

Re: no activities after 656 --> joyride. but wait...

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Right, this edge case was brought to my attention by Greg the other day. It > will only happen once...in future updates, favorites are preserved. > Additionally, in most scenarios, the update will include an "activity pack

Re: Congratulations! but Sugar sucks

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > really surprisingly short. Each item on the list has been debated to a > stationary point over the last two years, so all that is left is to make a > final decision for the engineers to execute. Each task could be

Re: Tuxpaint activity is bloated

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The "sugar-is-lame" string comes from a value that activities are > required to provide, even when the value is of no use. Activity > authors are being forced to provide a random string that is of no > use to the activity

Re: Definition of "Stable Enough To Release" for 8.2.0

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 8:59 PM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> 9 - Always boots up, especially when there is no space on NAND > > "Always" is a tricky one :-) - might be useful to focus on specific issues > > - boots even with no space on NAND to a mode that allows > user-controlle

Re: joyride keyboard problems & GL/glx

2008/7/25 Martin Dengler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 08:10:21AM -0400, Chris Marshall wrote: > >> For a lot of applications, using the 3D framework with the simpler >> geometries and more image-oriented, a software OpenGL can be quite >> acceptable. > > Forgive the uninformed que

Re: joyride keyboard problems & GL/glx

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Ton van Overbeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just FYI. Tried to boot both joyride-2207 and joyride-2210 (the > devel-ext3 variant) on > qemu (on win XP/SP2) but both fail with the same error: > > (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/sri/swrast_dri.so

Re: odd yum dependency issues in joyride

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:43 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i've been slowly moving my g1g1 machine forward to joyride (from 656). > i had customized it quite a bit, and am trying to restore those changes. > i've got xfce running, but a couple of yum dependencies (which were fine > with F7) are

Re: New joyride build 2222

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 7:56 PM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> > Anyone whose activities use Numerical arrays in Python should check that >>> > they still work in +. If anything is broken, I'll be happy to help >>> > fix it. The only Activity I am sure needs to be checked is

Re: [OLPC Security] preliminary [PATCH] and discussion for #5657: activity isolation for all activities in ~/Activities

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Jameson Chema Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Problem: anything named "Journal", "Terminal", "Log", or "Analyze" is not > isolated. This is the biggest security hole we have right now: it is a > trivial way for any activity to get root access. Another possible sh

Re: New faster build 2242

2008/8/1 Build Announcer v2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build2242 I've unretired the faster branch temporarily to collect some measurements on the costs of adding xfce to our builds. I also added some patches from my local git to sugar-artwork for #

Re: New faster build 2242

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:57 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/8/1 Build Announcer v2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I also added > some patches from my local git to sugar-artwork for #7641 (fixing some > broken icons in xfce) and to sugar for #7495 and #7685

Re: Why we are about to not bother upkeeping TamTam.

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Daniel Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 16:16 -0400, jean piche wrote: > If you are interested in doing this yourself, here is my approximate > plan of action: > 1. Test all the builds on latest joyride by installing manually > 2. Read the s

Re: suspend on 'idle'

On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:01 AM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > More to the point, I perform a number of actions as part of > "installing" a new build. Lately, if I forget to first set > 'inhibit-idle-suspend', the XO is __suspending__ on me while > performing downloads (via yum) of

Re: suspend on 'idle'

On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:30 AM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please don't forget to think about what 'idle' means. Chris Ball is the power guru; if you can come up with a succinct test that ohm can do to determine if there is 'real work' going on that should inhibit idle, I'm sure

Re: XO keeps staring at its own belly button

On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For instance - the XO has been sitting there for a minute or more > (in Terminal). I want to key in a command, so I start typing. > Nothing changes. I do *NOT* know if my XO is alive or dead. > Suddenly (after one or mor

inhibiting suspend via dbus

As it turns out, the activity update control panel needs to inhibit suspend, too, otherwise we go to sleep in the middle of downloading large activities (Firefox, TamTam, etc). Chris, could you make a little wiki page explaining how to interact w/ ohm via dbus to temporarily inhibit suspend, and s

Re: [sugar] new 8.2.0 beta joyride - upgrading via control panel ?

Please send me sugar logs for any activity update control panel failures, along with details on what activity it was attempting to download at the time. Please be sure you are using joyride-2266 or later, and that you have suspend turned off. On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 6:59 AM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL

Re: [sugar] new 8.2.0 beta joyride - upgrading via control panel ?

On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11 Aug 2008, at 15:13, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > >> Please send me sugar logs for any activity update control panel >> failures, along with details on what activity it was attempting to >>

Re: Firefox 3 available via software-update

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Ton van Overbeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yesterday when running software-update from the control panel on > joyride-2280 > Firefox showed up. > It is a port of Firefox 3 to the XO by C Scott Ananian: > (http://dev.laptop.org/git?p

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Trac #7480: Need to 'reset' the network configurations - short term fix

I moved discussion back to http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7480 , including citing Morgan's objections quoted above and proposing a solution. Does anyone want to implement an email->trac gateway, like debian's bug tracker has? That would help a lot when discussion veers off into email. --scott --

Re: New faster build 2289

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Gary Oberbrunner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Build Announcer v2 wrote: >> http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build2289 > > Hi folks; is there still a difference between faster and joyride? I > thought they got merged a while ago. ? http://lists

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Trac #7480: Need to 'reset' the network configurations - short term fix

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A nice gateway would work by filtering emails with some flag in their > subject line, e.g. [TRAC #7480]. Is this how debian's bug tracker does > implements the gateway UI? rt works like that. Debian's bug tracker uses a

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Trac #7480: Need to 'reset' the network configurations - short term fix

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 01:23:07PM -0400, C. Scott Ananian wrote: >> >> I moved discussion back to http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7480 , >> including citing Morgan's objections quoted a

Re: Next joyride beta delayed.

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Folks, > > We began considering joyride-2294 for this week's beta selection process > this morning and, this evening, Joe discovered some interesting hangs on > laptops running the sugar activity updater. We believe that th

Re: sugar activity updater

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 1:10 PM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The activity updater seems to take lots of time when accessing large > Activities (e.g., the Firefox.xo file in the repository). It also > produces LOTS of 'WARNING:' messages about the Activity bundles I > *have* instal

Re: sugar activity updater

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 14 Aug 2008, at 22:48, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > >> Trac #7733. I am annoyed as well. > > As someone on the activity side of the fence, I like warnings, I have a [...] > +10 for warnings.

Re: what is a "Customization key" ?

On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 5:22 AM, S Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not to pick on him, but Erik Garrison wrote: >> I have built a customization key for use by Perú immediately following >> provisional testing. >> ... >> The key is comprised of the previously shipped Perú activity pack and an >> u

Re: Missing critical dependency, Koji

On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 8:27 PM, John Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Anyway, in the meantime, we have raw rpmbuild, mock (which needs to be >> configured not to use Fedora's koji, but this is not so hard), our own >> buildroot (probably hidden away somewhere on weka.laptop.org), and the >> j

Re: Missing critical dependency, Koji

On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 12:37 AM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 02:13:28PM +1000, James Cameron wrote: >>We don't have a duplicate of Koji we can use? How wrong is that! > > We talked about it but Dennis argued passionately that > > a) creating our own koji i

Preparations for forking 8.2.

I've revived and turned the crank on the 8.2 branch in preparations for forking a stable stream from joyride. The build announcers will probably shortly announce build 753, which should be more-or-less identical to the latest joyride. You can try it out with: # olpc-update 8.2-753 Although I w

Re: reverting to ancient gstreamer, good time to implement change control?

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Chris Ball <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We don't have a maintainer for the 8.2 build branch at the moment, so > it's not trivial to do this. I think Michael is planning on continuing > to just use Joyride as the stream that will produce 8.2, until we get > a new (o

Re: joyride version announcements

There haven't been joyride build announcements, because there haven't been (successful) joyride builds, because RedHat's koji system has been down. Koji came up for a while yesterday (it seems to be down again today) and I pulled all the packages on the olpc-dist3 branch locally. I've now switche

Build 754 (8.2)

I've made build 754 on the stable 8.2 stream, resynchronized to joyride-2313. (See http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/8.2-joyride.html) In addition, I've made the following stable-build-stream-only changes: - Fixup /etc/fedora-release so that yum works properly (trac #4264, #7398) - Disable X shared me

Re: Problems switching back from joyride-2290 to Update.1-708 (rainbow). Help wanted.

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 10:16:01PM -0400, Ton van Overbeek wrote: >>For my testing for trac #7788 I want to switch from Update.1 to >>joyride-2298 and vice versa >>(using alternate boot). >>After switching back from joyrid

Re: Problems switching back from joyride-2290 to Update.1-708 (rainbow). Help wanted.

On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The other change we could consider would be to rev the isolation spool > version number from 1 to 2 in Rainbow and in the Datastore. There is a > small risk that other people might have hardcoded the > '/home/olpc/isolatio

Re: Build 754 (8.2)

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:45 AM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 8:17 AM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I've made build 754 on the stable 8.2 stream, resynchronized to >> joyride-2313. (See http://dev.laptop.org/

Re: OS versioning

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 2:31 AM, victor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks everyone for their quick and comprehensive responses. Some more information on the correspondence between names and release numbers can be found at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes and http://wiki.laptop.org/go/B

Re: joyride releases

On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 10:48 PM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 22 Aug 2008, at 02:53, Ricardo Carrano wrote: >> I am reading a ticket (7967) that reports tests based on joyride 2302. >> But this version did not seem to be released (from 2301 it jumps to >> 2311). >> What am I missi

Re: Cerebro (was Re: Almost 50% less free memory in joyride-2302 compared with Update.1 (708))

On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 5:16 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cerebro is running there for some reason (I've seen it in another bug > report already). I can't reproduce on a clean 2328 joyride, not sure > if it has been fixed or something weird is going on. Cerebro is enabled

Re: Workaround for the sound lockup?

On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 5:17 AM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Chris Ball <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It's fixed in http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q2e14. > > Thanks for the hint! Shame that I didn't know earlier... Incidentally, the workar

Re: Which stream to test for 8.2 or have we officially branched now?

On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Ton van Overbeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Noticed that idle suspend was enabled again in recent joyrides. > pgf replied that this was intentional since we now have a revived 8.2 > build stream. > But I have not seen any announcement yet on branching/freezing et

Re: Which stream to test for 8.2 or have we officially branched now?

On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> ... but 8.2-756 is our "best stable >> candidate so far". Michael (the release manager) will presumably >> announce it as such after we do our usual local QA ... > > Unfortunately 756 appears to have screwed up some sor

Re: XO activity bundle .info format

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 3:53 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Douglas Bagnall wrote: >> In the course of making an activity server for the XS, I have looked >> at the activity.info files of 114 bundles from >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities. One (Berkeley Logo) turned ou

Re: [Server-devel] Network transparent XS services - limitations and alternatives

On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:56 PM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Discussing the activity installer/updater control panel and > olpc-update (a few days before) one design assumption from the XO team > was very strong: that network clients on the XO could just ignore the > XS and attemp

Re: [Server-devel] Network transparent XS services - limitations and alternatives

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:39 AM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Again, it seems like you need an offline DNS solution. Many legacy > applications will assume they can resolve a DNS name to an address; it > seems best to let them do this. Incidentally, http://wik

Re: Scratch activity problems

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Daniel Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2. Saving of files: > Scratch does not use the Journal, it uses the regular filesystem. > Rainbow prevents Scratch from saving in usual locations. So, Scratch > ships with a world-writable "Projects" directory underneath the

Re: CSound server questions

On Sun, Feb 3, 2008 at 12:31 PM, John Maloney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am porting Scratch to the XO. (Scratch is an easy-to-learn [...] > Scratch includes commands to play notes and trigger drum sounds. On > Windows and Mac OS, these commands use the underlying OS MIDI > synthesizer. On the X

Scratch fails to write to Scratch.activity/Projects

In http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8166 there's a problem reported: Peru can't save their work in Scratch, because Scratch tries to write to Scratch.activity/Projects, and this is not writable. Luckily, there is an easy workaround: the directory $SUGAR_ACTIVITY_ROOT/data is persistent storage which i

Re: Network transparent XS services - limitations and alternatives

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> HTTPS has many problems. None of the basic XO protocols use HTTPS. > > Will we never care for end-user privacy? We do. We just don't use HTTPS. You should know better. >>> - At the protocol layer you mask a whole h

Re: Network transparent XS services - limitations and alternatives

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 7:17 PM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Network principles is a nice statement of desired ideal network > topology. Which we may implement one day - but I am delivering a > network topology and the _main source of XO services_ on a very tight > timeframe and w

Re: Network transparent XS services - limitations and alternatives

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Network_principles#Disconnected_operation is >> a principled means to substitute unavailable resources in the offline >> case. > > The solution you suggest has problems, and I mentioned them in

Re: XO activity bundle .info format

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> ... found that people are using >> 'org.laptop' as a prefix incorrectly (if everyone uses org.laptop as a >> prefix, then OLPC loses the ability to assign unique names in this domain). > > Undoubtedly people who are dbus

Re: XO activity bundle .info format

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 9:05 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > bobby wrote: > it's helpful, but could be better. how should i, an individual > contributor with no particular "domain" that i own or belong to, > construct a name? the given example of "com.redhat.Sugar.BrowserActivity" > isn't much

Re: Scratch fails to write to Scratch.activity/Projects

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 8:40 PM, John Maloney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's wrong with just making the directory Scratch.activity/Projects > writable by the world? It's not officially supported. Other than being a way for activities to leak data past Bitfrost protections, in a future releas

Scratch localization.

Scratch appears to require manual editing of the Scratch.ini file in order to come up in a language other than English. Is there any way I can pass a command-line option in bin/scratch-activity to set the Language preference based on the value of $LANG? I'd prefer that we not have to ship a diffe

Re: New joyride build 2346

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Bobby Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 2:11 AM, Build Announcer v2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2346 >> >> Changes in build 2346 from build: 2344 >> >> Size delta: 0.00M >> >> -li

Re: XO Faster build?

2008/8/28 BlistovMHz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Faster has been unmaintained since Koji puked. Is this coming back up, or > being deprecated in favor of Joyride? > Its been suggested that someone may have simply forgot to turn it back on :) 'Faster' is always a short-lived experimental branch. It wa

Re: [Server-devel] Network address for activation - Fwd: [Techteam] Activating laptops from the school server

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 3:52 AM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > we're trying to get the XS to reply to the activation requests from > the XO. The service is listening on 172.18.0.1:191 which is what the > non-activated laptops are trying. > > The laptop, however, picks an address in t

Re: How to get packages on the 8.2 branch?

On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What do we need to do to get packages on the stable 8.2 branch? That's a good question. I assume we use the process we used for 8.1, which is that you create a trac bug naming the exact package you want and the rea

Re: Problems using pilgrim

2008/8/30 Niklaus Giger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi > > I am a member of olpc-ch which is promoting OLPC in Switzerland. > See also http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Ngiger. As I had > to customize manually 10 OLPCs to use German/Switzerland as language > for a presentation of OLPC to more than 100 chil

Re: How to get packages on the 8.2 branch?

On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 6:18 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 3:52 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Wh

Re: Faster build with XFCE

2008/8/30 BlistovMHz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Can we turn faster back on with XFCE? > I'm spending more time installing/configuring XFCE under joyride, than I am > doing any real development. > I'm working on power management, specifically with regards to dynamic idle > suspend times based on user in

Re: Google Chrome activity?

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Ton van Overbeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Christoph Derndorfer wrote: >> On 9/3/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] * <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > wrote: >> On Wed, 3 Sep 2008, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: >> Anyone her

Re: Google Chrome activity?

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Carol Lerche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > According to /. the license includes: > > "By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a > perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license > to reproduce, adapt, modify, transl

Re: New joyride build 2382

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 01:00:39PM -0400, Build Announcer v2 wrote: >> http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2382 >> >> Changes in build 2382 from build: 2381 >> >> Size delta: 0.00M >> >> -etoys 3.0.212

Re: New release8.2 build 758

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Build Announcer v2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/xo-1/streams/8.2/build758 > > Changes in build 758 from build: 757 For more verbose changelogs, see: http://mock.laptop.org/gitweb/gitweb.cgi?p=repos;a=shortlog;h=koji.dist-olpc3-t

Re: New release8.2 build 759

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Build Announcer v2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/xo-1/streams/8.2/build759 > > Changes in build 759 from build: 758 Again, full changelogs are at: http://mock.laptop.org/gitweb/gitweb.cgi?p=repos;a=shortlog;h=koji.dist-olpc3-test

Re: New release8.2 build 758

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Robert Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Scott, > >> Attached is my summary of bugs fixed in 758, and (below) what to expect in >> 759: > > Any chance of getting #3050 fixed? It's a simple matter of setting a > switch (see closed #654 for more discussion), was orig

Re: How did the testing go on 8.2-757?

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Chris Ball <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Scott, > > From Robert Myers: > > > S Page sent me this: > >> Browse 95 on 8.2-757 was working reasonably well for me. Today I > >> ran Software update and now Browse version 96 won't start: > >> AttributeError: 'modu

fedora-release package needs update

c/rpm/macros.dist %dir %{_datadir}/%{name} %{_datadir}/%{name}/* %dir /etc/pki/rpm-gpg /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/* %changelog * Fri Sep 05 2008 C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - 9-3.1 - OLPC-local changes. * Wed Jun 25 2008 Jesse Keating <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - 9-3 - Add ia64 key - Fix c

Re: Stability and Memory Pressure in 8.2

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 11:34 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 00:10 -0400, Michael Stone wrote: >> >> - This means that we need to measure how our memory consumption >> profile has changed since our previous releases. >> >> (cscott observes that we were unable

Re: Stability and Memory Pressure in 8.2

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> * We need to find out why the oom-killer is not killing things fast >>enough. Based on our results, we might consider configuring >>/proc

Re: Current 8.2 and joyride ext3 builds unusable

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Ton van Overbeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Filed trac ticket 8369 about this issue. > Here is the text: > == > All 8.2 devel-ext3 builds are unusable in qemu with the lone > exception of 8.2-751. Joyride shows a similar

Re: Stability and Memory Pressure in 8.2

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A couple of low risk fixes which could save ~6 mb at startup: > > Remove numpy usage from the shell > http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8372 > (has patch) > > gst usage in the shell wastes 2.6mb > http://dev.laptop.org/tic

Re: [PROPOSAL] Change PILGRIM_LOCALES_* to better reflect the current situation

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Daniel Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, 2008-08-28 at 15:04 +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: >>> b) To reflect the current and near future deployments (including G1G1 >>> 200

8.1.3 release candidate

I have published build 714, the first (and hopefully only!) release candidate for the 8.1.3 point release, at: http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/candidate/714/ You can install it with: olpc-update candidate-714 It is a signed build; it can be used on secured machines. Brief release notes he

Re: Stability and Memory Pressure in 8.2

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:13 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:05 PM, James Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> But I did notice one odd thing that I wasn't fully aware of until now >> ... the byte-code of the built-in modules was present, complete with doc >

License your bundles, please!

John Gilmore has been pushing us to get our licensing ducks in a row. The one remaining problem has been activities and content bundles: we can't legally distribute bundles that don't have a clear statement of license. I have added documentation to: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_bundles#.in

Re: Stability and Memory Pressure in 8.2

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 5:30 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:13 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:05

Re: Scratch Sensor Board needs access to TTYUSB*

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 5:50 PM, John Maloney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To use the Scratch Sensor Board or Pico Sensor Board > (http://scratch.wik.is/Support/Sensor_Boards), you must add a file to the > folder: > > /etc/udev/rules.d > > This file should contain the single line: > > KERNEL=="ttyU

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