suggestions for children with disabilities
Are there any suggestions or activities that address the needs of children with disabilities? For instance, at the moment we have a request for assistance with students with visual impairments. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] testing XS-RSYNC
Great, thanks. I was steered to the correct files and got it to work from both the USB and command line. The files I used can be found at: http://dev.laptop.org/~reuben/xs-xobuilds/ Out of curiosity why do we require the tree files which come from: http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/xo-1/streams/8.2/build767/devel_jffs2/ instead of the files which we document and publicize more frequently at: http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/candidate/767/jffs2/ or http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/official/711/jffs2/ FYI: updating build 766 to 767 WORKED using the command: olpc-update --server schoolserver xo-1-olpc-stream-8.2-build-767-20081001_1616-devel_jffs2 Regards, Reuben Martin Langhoff wrote: The script needs the tree file and its corresponding .md5, not the 'tar.gz' file. The rest seems correct. cheers, m On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 7:13 AM, Reuben K. Caron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm attempting to populate /library/pub/builds following the link: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS-rsync I have tried making a usb key and tried from the command line. Could someone please review the files I'm attempting this with located at: http://dev.laptop.org/~reuben/xs-xobuilds/ Thanks, Reuben ___ Server-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel -- Reuben K. Caron Country Support Engineer One Laptop per Child Mobile: +1-617-230-3893 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Server-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XS - XO archiving and backup (was Re: [OLPC India] Issues on the ground )
XS 0.4 does include a backup and restore functionality. The restore is through a web interface that can be accessed at http://schoolserver/ds-restore. The one caveat to this functionality is that it requires the XO to be running 8.2 (in order for the backup to run). Bryan Berry wrote: On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 11:44 +0530, JV Avadhanulu wrote: Dear Bryan, I have a question. Are children able to transfer files to the XS Server over Wi-Fi in your deployments? Our deployments are still using XS-163, which does not have the xs-backup method. We hope to migrate to a newer version of the XS later this month. To my knowledge, the XO's can back up to the XS but there still is no way for children to browse their backups or restore from them. My knowledge may be out of date though. Martin Langhoff knows much better than I. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployments_Support ___ Server-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XS 0.5 Second Attempt at eth1
Yes, it is on the server. However isn't it a bit chicken and egg setting an ip address that will be on the wire given that the device on the wire is waiting for an ip address from the server? Jerry Vonau wrote: Reuben K. Caron wrote: Thanks for clarification. Still no go: Dec 4 12:12:24 schoolserver1 kernel: eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0xC1E1 Dec 4 12:12:24 schoolserver1 kernel: eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0xC1E1 Dec 4 12:12:24 schoolserver1 kernel: Ethernet Channel Bonding Driver: v3.3.0 (June 10, 2008) Dec 4 12:12:24 schoolserver1 kernel: bonding: ARP monitoring set to 1000 ms, validate none, with 1 target(s): 172.18.0.1 172.18.0.1 is on the server, no? Think you need to use something that is connected to the wire. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XS 0.5 Second Attempt at eth1
Martin Langhoff wrote: On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Reuben K. Caron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I too am having problems with DHCP (and ejabberd) on XS 0.5. That's interesting! Thanks for the writeup... I reviewed /etc/sysconfig/olpc-scripts/dhcpd.conf.1 - It did not match dhcpd-xs.conf I ran ./network-config 1 I ran ./domain-config xs4.org (i know it isn't xs4 but I'm maintaining domain for posterity) *yes* - you'll notice in the release notes... a special section that talks about upgrading, and asks you to run those commands ;-) http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Installing_Software#Upgrading_from_XS_0.4_or_earlier Does not include network-config. Should it? Rebooted. dhcpd-xs.conf now has the declaration for 172.18.96 DHCP is started but still does not hand out an IP. That's weird. - any further error msgs on the logs? - maybe the XS is connected to the AP with a straight cable? You might need a crossover... - if you connect a laptop to it via a crossover, can it get a dhcp lease? - maybe the AP is doing NAT? - XS Lan connected to Switch. Bridge AP connected to switch does not pass an IP. Computer connected to Switch does not get an IP. ___ Server-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XS 0.5 Second Attempt at eth1
Actually, I just tried a clean install and DHCP doesn't come up. When I check status it continues to tell me that I must run network-config and domain-config before DHPCd can start; even though I have run those repeatedly. Reuben Martin Langhoff wrote: Clean 0.5 installs work better for you? cheers, m ___ Server-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XS 0.5 Second Attempt at eth1
After doing a clean install 4 times and dhcpd not starting I investigated a bit more and I found: When I cd /etc/sysconfig/olpc-scripts ./domain_config xs5.org It creates the xs_domain_name file in /etc/sysconfig/olpc-scripts/ However, /etc/sysconfig/dhcpd looks for this file in /etc/sysconfig/ When I copy /etc/sysconfig/olpc-scripts/xs_domain_name to /etc/sysconfig/xs_domain_name; then start dhcpd it correctly generates the config files and starts up. For completeness I then deleted /etc/sysconfig/olpc-scripts/xs_domain_name and /etc/sysconfig/xs_domain_name. Then ran: /etc/sysconfig/olpc-scripts/domain_config xs5.org ; this does generate xs_domain_name in the correct /etc/sysconfig directory. Reuben Anna wrote: On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Reuben K. Caron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I just tried a clean install and DHCP doesn't come up. When I check status it continues to tell me that I must run network-config and domain-config before DHPCd can start; even though I have run those repeatedly. Reuben I did the 0.5 clean install on both machines and dhcpd came up on each one after domain_config. I noticed it worked before I ran network_config, too, for whatever reason. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# service dhcpd status /etc / make: `dhcpd-xs.conf' is up to date. / dhcpd (pid 3451) is running... [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# service dhcpd status /etc / make: `dhcpd-xs.conf' is up to date. / dhcpd (pid 3176) is running... On the first machine, I had to manually set the hostname back to alabamaxo.org for the time being so jabber would work, but that's another issue for later. Anna ___ Server-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XS 0.5 Second Attempt at eth1
Now that I have DHCPD running on a clean install. I can report that it still does not hand out IPs. When I assign my laptop ethernet adapter as 172.18.96.1 and 172.18.0.1 I do get an ARP error from the server; however, when I bump it up one address 172.18.0.2 it still does not ping. Martin Langhoff wrote: On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 12:06 AM, Jerry Vonau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anna wrote: So, what are the repercussions of this? Not sure... Martin? Good sleuthing! Bonding-related errors was the last thing I'd imagined, and with the e1000 driver too -- it's widely used and generally well maintained. Anna, what's your NIC? Ideally, we want to know the marketing make/name/model and what lspci reports for it. Perhaps I can get my hands on the same hw you have. Googling a bit for e1000 and bonding to see if there are any known issues I see quite a bit of traffic back in 2006/2007 with e1000 devices coming up / powering up late and confusing the bond drivers and sometimes bad performance. But nothing current, it looks like it got sorted out. What's your other NIC? If you run xs-swapnics (and swap the cables too), do things work better with the bonding configuration we're shipping? Also - I'm trying to think this through - I am fairly certain that one of the test machines in Wellington has an e1000 and it worked correctly for me (with a crossover cable to the AP). cheers, m -- Reuben K. Caron Country Support Engineer One Laptop per Child Mobile: +1-617-230-3893 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Deployments Support http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployments_Support ___ Server-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Amateurish Workaround to Get Bonding to Work With eth1
In my tests the following works on a fresh installation without modifying the xs_bonding: Put this in /etc/rc.local ifenslave lanbond0 eth1 Reboot. And there we go: Anna wrote: This is probably far from ideal, but it works for me and I'm putting it out there in case you're messing with XS 0.5 and need to have eth1 working now so you can test other stuff. I'm sure there's a more elegant solution. Put this in /etc/rc.local ifenslave lanbond0 eth1 Reboot. And there we go: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ifconfig eth1 eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0D:56:05:7C:DA UP BROADCAST RUNNING SLAVE MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:4348 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:5381 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:368480 (359.8 KiB) TX bytes:6433735 (6.1 MiB) I've connected a few XOs to my test platform so far and haven't seen any unexpected issues. I don't know if you have to edit /etc/modprobe.d/xs_bonding with Jerry's suggestion below, but I've got that in there. options lanbond0 mode=active-backup miimon=100 options mshbond0 mode=active-backup miimon=100 options mshbond1 mode=active-backup miimon=100 options mshbond2 mode=active-backup miimon=100 Of course, you can just run ifenslave lanbond0 eth1, but it doesn't persist on reboot. Anna Schoolfield Birmingham ___ Server-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Amateurish Workaround to Get Bonding to Work With eth1
Alright, so I am still seeing problems. yum --enablerepo=olpcxstesting install xs-config , did not work for me. So I: -wget http://xs-dev.laptop.org/xsrepos/testing/olpc/9/i386/xs-config-0.5.7.g11aaacf-1.noarch.rpm -yum localinstall xs-config-0.5.7.g11aaacf-1.noarch.rpm --nogpgcheck - reran domain config -check hostname -restart log file still shows: Dec 11 09:33:06 schoolserver kernel: bonding: lanbond0 is being created... Dec 11 09:33:06 schoolserver kernel: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): lanbond0: link is not ready until I issue the: -ifenslave lanbond0 eth1 which results in: Dec 11 09:52:47 schoolserver kernel: bonding: lanbond0: enslaving eth1 as an active interface with an up link. Dec 11 09:52:47 schoolserver kernel: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): lanbond0: link becomes ready and then dhcp works. Martin Langhoff wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Martin Langhoff I spotted exactly the same difference and tested it -- does not seem to work. Hope to get to the bottom of it. Alright, fixed. Credit to Anna and Jerry for narrowing down on the issue. The actual problem is laughably simple -- late in the dev cycle of 0.5 a typo sneaked in. A minor edit of ifcfg-eth1 fixes it, see: http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=projects/xs-config;a=commitdiff;h=acd64ab3d2342fbda08a944e31878db6b3b563f2 In any case, you can grab the rpm with the fix from http://xs-dev.laptop.org/xsrepos/testing/olpc/9/i386/xs-config-0.5.7.g11aaacf-1.noarch.rpm or perform yum --enablerepo=olpcxstesting install xs-config thanks everyone -- specially Anna -- for you help and patience. cheers, martin -- Reuben K. Caron Country Support Engineer One Laptop per Child Mobile: +1-617-230-3893 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Deployments Support http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployments_Support ___ Server-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Amateurish Workaround to Get Bonding to Work With eth1
Jerry Vonau wrote: Reuben K. Caron wrote: Martin Langhoff wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 7:06 PM, Reuben K. Caron reu...@laptop.org wrote: yum repolist --enablerepo=* repolist: 0 ... This is on an upgrade from 0.4 Doesn't sound good. Some more questions -- - can you email me any install / upgrade logs in /root/ ? attached - what does /etc/yum.conf say? attached Reuben, is there an /etc/yum.conf.rpmnew present on your box? If so, did you modify your /etc/yum.conf prior to the upgrade in anyway? Yes, there is a yum.conf.rpmnew present (attached) No, it has never been touched. ### OLPC School server yum configuration ### ### NOTE: yum.conf.in is the master file. Edit ### the master file if you want your changes to persist. ### After editing the master file, do ### ### `make -f xs-config.make targetfile` ### ### Also see /usr/share/doc/xs-config-version/README for more ### details, including how to RECOVER changes you have made if ### they are overwritten. ### [main] cachedir=/var/cache/yum keepcache=0 debuglevel=2 logfile=/var/log/yum.log exactarch=1 obsoletes=1 gpgcheck=1 plugins=1 metadata_expire=1800 # PUT YOUR REPOS IN separate files named file.repo in... reposdir=/etc/yum.repos.olpc.d ### NOTE that we use an alternative ### repo directory until http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8033 ### is fixed. So the default ## reposdir /etc/yum.repos.d ### is not enabled. That is the old yum.conf from F7, don't think the test $SHA1SUM = $BADSHA1SUM to move the yum.conf.rpmnew to yum.conf was matched. - have you got files in /etc/yum.repos.d named olpcxs* ? [r...@schoolserver etc]# ls /etc/yum.repos.d/ fedora-rawhide.repo fedora-updates-newkey.repo olpcxs.repo fedora.repo fedora-updates-testing-newkey.repo olpcxs-testing.repo looks good. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list server-de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel [main] cachedir=/var/cache/yum keepcache=0 debuglevel=2 logfile=/var/log/yum.log exactarch=1 obsoletes=1 gpgcheck=1 plugins=1 installonly_limit=3 # This is the default, if you make this bigger yum won't see if the metadata # is newer on the remote and so you'll gain the bandwidth of not having to # download the new metadata and pay for it by yum not having correct # information. # It is esp. important, to have correct metadata, for distributions like # Fedora which don't keep old packages around. If you don't like this checking # interupting your command line usage, it's much better to have something # manually check the metadata once an hour (yum-updatesd will do this). # metadata_expire=90m # PUT YOUR REPOS HERE OR IN separate files named file.repo # in /etc/yum.repos.d ___ Server-devel mailing list server-de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Amateurish Workaround to Get Bonding to Work With eth1
Yes it matches: [r...@schoolserver ~]# sha1sum /etc/yum.conf 8970c4d97f3f90eb17520ea3d8590b24bc7f4691 /etc/yum.conf Martin Langhoff wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Reuben K. Caron reu...@laptop.org wrote: Yes, there is a yum.conf.rpmnew present (attached) No, it has never been touched. I've tested this today, and what you're finding is right - the upgrade leaves the old yum.conf -- now, I saw this problem early and added a workaround. Look at http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=projects/xs-config;a=blob;f=xs-config.spec.in;h=0cdd22d2626283959e503e0c9cfb61c2d1a9371a;hb=0ec20a942b52be2c5dd0d448f2565faadcacc102#l177 The question is why that code isn't taking care of it. I think I know why -- the sha1sum doesn't match on my test machine... researchign a bit... it turns out that there have been 2 different yum.conf files, depending in the vintage of your XS install. One in the releases before 0.4 and then the one we shipped for xs-0.4. The sha1 listed there is the right one for pre-0.4 (167, etc). The sha1s -- taken from GIT, but corroborated on my test XS installs here are ## From XS build 167 $ git checkout v0.2.10 $ sha1sum fsroot.olpc.img/etc/yum.conf 2f12835cb11f100be169abcc8bff72525a25cff7 fsroot.olpc.img/etc/yum.conf # from XS 0.4 $ git checkout v0.3.6 $ sha1sum altfiles/etc/yum.conf.in 8970c4d97f3f90eb17520ea3d8590b24bc7f4691 altfiles/etc/yum.conf.in Reuben, can you confirm that your /etc/yum.conf matches mine (8970c...)? cheers, m -- Reuben K. Caron Country Support Engineer One Laptop per Child Mobile: +1-617-230-3893 reu...@laptop.org Deployments Support http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployments_Support ___ Server-devel mailing list server-de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: Fixed Puritan bug on F10/Intrepid
Michael, The build was successfully made on both F10 and Intrepid. How could I slip in a language pack? How could I set the Timezone for the build? How could I set the default language for sugar? Regards, Reuben Michael Stone wrote: Reuben, I was able to reproduce and work around the rpmdb version problem you found today on a new Intrepid vm I created on weka.l.o. Would you mind retesting with my new 767 compilation? (To do so, just wipe the compilation and re-clone it. I modified the cloning instructions so that, in the future, you'd be able to run 'git pull' to update.) Thanks, Michael ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] XO
Jerry, This should jump start you into the right direction: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/No-Fail_Upgrade Good Luck, Reuben Jerry Vonau wrote: Hi All: Ok, I just received my XOs, being an absolute newbie with the XO, if all I see upon booting is a gray screen and the XO logo, and I don't get asked for a name as shown at: http://www.laptop.org/8.2.0/manual/XO_Starting.html I need to load an os image on this puppy, correct? If I hold down the game keys I see school-mesh-0 found that good right? ;-) Just need to know where I'm at before I start to play Guess its time to get a developer key to be able fiddle with XS on OX. Jerry PS Sorry if you get this twice, wrong source email address the first time. ___ Server-devel mailing list server-de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel -- Reuben K. Caron Country Support Engineer One Laptop per Child Mobile: +1-617-230-3893 reu...@laptop.org Deployments Support http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployments_Support ___ Server-devel mailing list server-de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Upgrade to 0.5.1
There seems to be a differing set of instructions on how to upgrade: from the wiki: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Installing_Software#Upgrading_from_XS_0.4_or_earlier If you are upgrading from XS 0.4 or earlier, the process is similar to a new installation, with some minor changes. In the menu shown right after booting, you should choose the (preselected) 'Install with kickstart' option, press the Tab key, and add 'upgradeany' to the boot configuration line. After adding that line, press enter twice. With this extra option, Anaconda will recognise the old installation and will offer to upgrade. the second from server-devel: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/server-devel/2008-November/002493.html Just to make this clear, for the upgrade to work you need to select one of the top two options, hit tab and then append upgradeany. The default selection has the ks.cfg file which prevent the upgrade choice from appearing as an option in anaconda. (thinks it's the partitioning info being present) Passing upgradeany to the kickstart option does not work. Passing upgradeany to the top two options does work. Two questions: 1. Which should be used. 2. If you pass upgradeany to one of the top two options that does not use the kickstart, do you lose any functionalality? Thanks, Reuben http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployments_Support ___ Server-devel mailing list server-de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: Life in an insecure world
Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/2/4 John Watlington w...@laptop.org: I insist on b) in order to prevent inadvertent bricking of laptops by typing enable-security, Are you concerned that there is a realistic and common use case when a particular type of user would want or need to run enable-security? Yes, I was particularly thinking of you and your experience in Ethiopia and the difficulties you faced to re-secure the laptops. I prefer to think of it as: Is there a realistic and common use case for when a *deployment* would want or need to run enable-security. Regards, Reuben ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] Filtering and authentication
Henry, Thank you for your thoughts and examples. This is exactly why the XS installer does not contain any content filtering software. It is very much a cultural and deployment specific issue. As Anna said, in their case and in the case of every public and many private K-12 schools in the US they must implement a CIPA compliant content filter in order to continue receiving important telecommunications (e-rate) funding. Again thank you for your thoughts and the litmus tests you provide. Regards, Reuben Henry Edward Hardy wrote: Dear friends, I'm a bit disturbed when I hear people using the euphemism filtering for automated, computerized censorship. I understand there may be legislative or political mandates. However, we should never talk about this as though it is a good or desirable or acceptable thing. I realize this may be seen as off topic from the merely technical discussion of how to implement computerized censorship, but when we calmly discuss technicalities of something which is obviously wrong without questioning it, then the discussion needs to be aired. Filtering is what you do to the water in a fish tank. Censorship is when a state or quasi-state agency proscribes and limits access to certain classes of written material. Here are a few tests we should apply to any such proposed system. Does it allow access to information about Romeo and Juliet? (Underage sex, gang-oriented violence, suicide, murder) Does it allow access to Huckleberry Finn (Slavery, frequent use of the word nigger) Does it allow access to The Catcher in the Rye (Use of fuck, blasphemy, drinking, smoking, lying, promiscuity, implied pederasty) Does it allow access to Heather has Two Mommies (Lesbianism) Does it allow access to Our Bodies, Ourselves (Information about human health, sex and sexuality) Does it allow access to Slaughterhouse-Five (Genocide, strategic bombing, sex) Does it allow access to Of Mice and Men (Retardation, sex, rape, murder) Does it allow access to The Handmaid's Tale (Sexual roles, patriarchy, racism, and theocracy) Does it allow access to The Kite Runner (Homosexuality, rape) Does it allow access to His Dark Materials (Anti-state, anti-catholic, magic and witchcraft) Does it allow access to One Hundred Years of Solitude (Alchemy, murder, debauchery) Does it allow access to 1984 (Torture, illicit sex, anti-state and anti-party politics) Does it allow access to Canterbury Tales (Promiscuity, anti-clericalism) Does it allow access to The Decameron (Anti-state, anti-Catholic and general ribaldry, such as the Third Day, Tenth Story, How to put the Devil in Hell) And in terms of websites particularly, RateMyTeachers.com Peacefire.org Facebook Myspace Orkut Google YouTube Sites which criticize the ruling party or government. Sites which criticize or parody the predominant religion. Blogs, in general And classes of internet services such as Usenet FSP Peer-to-peer file-sharing services such as Bittorrent, EMule, Gnutella In general, censorship is bad and morally wrong; and automated, computerized censorship especially so; and we should never refer to it by a purpose-made and innocuous-sounding term like filtering or treat it as though it is morally or pedagogically acceptable. IMHO, Henry What progress we are making. In the Middle Ages they would have burned me. Now they are content with burning my books. --Sigmund Freud, 1933 also posted to my blog at http://scanlyze.wordpress.com/ On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Anna ascho...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Reuben K. Caron reu...@laptop.orgwrote: A free and simple solution, while not bullet proof (no content filter is that I am aware), is Open DNS. They are even CIPA compliant in the US: http://www.opendns.com/solutions/k12/ That's what I set up for our pilot school, which was very easy as the XS's DSL connection has a static IP. OpenDNS provides different filtering options, which you can customize as necessary. Being in the US, CIPA compliance is absolutely vital to retain certain federal funding, and OpenDNS was the quickest and easiest way to accomplish that. Dansguardian can be CIPA compliant, but there are other steps involved and I was wary of unintentionally running afoul of the rules. http://dansguardian.org/?page=faq#15 Not to mention Dansguardian consumes server resources. OpenDNS doesn't use any server resources and you can easily configure the filtering to be CIPA compliant. http://www.opendns.com/solutions/k12/cipa/ As far as limiting the internet connection to authorized XOs, that's an issue we're probably going to run into at some point once we broaden the XS deployment. So far at the pilot school, the staff members connect to the internet with their personal laptops and iPhones, but I haven't really heard any complaints of abuse yet. If your deployment
Re: [Server-devel] Browse-101 for 0.82 and XS-0.6 interop
The G1G1 set of activities (1) on wiki.laptop.org was updated to include Browse-102, I believe at the time the composite image was created for 8.2.1. This version does appear to work on 8.2.1 and has your auto-login magic working with an updated XS 0.5.2. Can we get a definitive answer on which to use 101 or 102? Thanks, Reuben (1) http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/G1G1 Martin Langhoff wrote: Simon (aka erikos) has just uploaded Browse-101.xo to http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addons/versions/4024#version-101 This is the currently recommended Browse for XOs running 8.2.x wanting to interoperate with the upcoming XS 0.6 . This version was previously available but hard to find -- Daniel Drake posted a (probably identical) version recently, but it was missing from the SL's download facility. Now it's there, easy to find, recommended. Thanks! m ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] Browse-101 for 0.82 and XS-0.6 interop
Daniel, Thanks for the clarification and the bug fix. Should that bug be closed? Reuben Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/5/21 Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com: Simon (aka erikos) has just uploaded Browse-101.xo to http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addons/versions/4024#version-101 This is the currently recommended Browse for XOs running 8.2.x wanting to interoperate with the upcoming XS 0.6 . This version was previously available but hard to find -- Daniel Drake posted a (probably identical) version recently, but it was missing from the SL's download facility. Now it's there, easy to find, recommended. Thanks! Someone posted my version here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/G1G1/8.2 It is not exactly the same, it includes a fix for http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8857 too. Daniel ___ Server-devel mailing list server-de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel -- Reuben K. Caron Country Support Engineer One Laptop per Child Mobile: +1-617-230-3893 reu...@laptop.org Deployments Support http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployments_Support ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] Upgrade to 0.6
Martin, Glad to hear you found the root cause. If we can come up with one or two simple commands for the OLPCorps teams to type at the command line to fix this and then enable squid; I'm sure they will be glad to do so. Thanks, Reuben On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.comwrote: Super. If you do find probs with 0.6, I'd love to hear about them via the list. Reuben did point out a problem with Squid and recent changed to /etc/hosts . I fixed the output of `hostname` and broke Squid for the local server :-/ That'll need a fix in hosts or (probably better) in squid-xs.conf or httpd.conf cheers, m On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Dave Bauerd...@solutiongrove.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Dave Bauerd...@solutiongrove.com wrote: Is it possible to upgrade from 0.5.2 to 0.6 yet or is it necessary to do a new install to test it? Hmmm. I haven't tested an upgrade. I usually - develop/test updating via yum rpm - when getting ready to release, first test clean install, then test upgrades It all depends on how adventurous you are. And how good your backups are. At this stage, I'm pretty sure something will break, and you'll want the backup at least to diagnose what changed (and later, rollback and retest). cheers, Thanks. For now I think setting up a seperate install to try out 0.6 is the best bet, and when its closer to ready, we can make a backup and test the upgrade. Dave m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff -- Dave Bauer d...@solutiongrove.com http://www.solutiongrove.com -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list server-de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: New F11 for the XO-1 Build 7
Steven, Great. I'll look forward to testing. Would it be possible and make sense to begin including DSD's the implement mesh support for F11: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2009-September/025645.html Regards, Reuben On Sep 22, 2009, at 7:39 PM, Steven M. Parrish wrote: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_XO-1 http://dev.laptop.org/~smparrish/XO-1/builds/OS7 This release includes and custom Fedora-olpc-release which enables the updates-testing repo by default. This repo is used in the creation of these builds so it makes sense to enable it by default. Also included is a new Fedora-olpc-kernel repo, this along with enabled repository protections will prevent the stock Fedora kernel being installed if the user does a yum update. Delta RPMS have also been enabled, this will decrease the size of the downloads when doing an update. Here are the version differences between this release and the previous Enjoy, Steven -alsa-lib-1.0.20-1.fc11.i586 -alsa-utils-1.0.20-3.fc11.i586 +alsa-lib-1.0.21-3.fc11.i586 +alsa-utils-1.0.21-2.fc11.i586 -bash-4.0-7.fc11.i586 +bash-4.0-8.fc11.i586 -bind-libs-9.6.1-4.P1.fc11.i586 -bind-utils-9.6.1-4.P1.fc11.i586 +bind-libs-9.6.1-5.P1.fc11.i586 +bind-utils-9.6.1-5.P1.fc11.i586 -bridge-utils-1.2-7.fc11.i586 -checkpolicy-2.0.19-2.fc11.i586 -coreutils-7.2-3.fc11.i586 +coreutils-7.2-4.fc11.i586 -crda-1.1.0_2009.04.17-11.fc11.i586 +crda-1.1.0_2009.09.08-2.fc11.i586 -csound-5.10.1-9.fc11.i586 +csound-5.10.1-12.fc11.i586 +deltarpm-3.4-16.fc11.i586 -dhclient-4.1.0p1-2.fc11.i586 +dhclient-4.1.0p1-4.fc11.i586 -dracut-0.9-1.fc11.i586 +dracut-002-1.fc11.i586 -etoys-4.0.2229-1.fc11.noarch +etoys-4.0.2279-1.fc11.noarch -fedora-release-11-1.noarch -fedora-release-notes-11.0.0-2.fc11.noarch +fedora-olpc-release-11-3.noarch -firefox-3.5.2-2.fc11.i586 +firefox-3.5.3-1.fc11.i586 -fontconfig-2.7.1-1.fc11.i586 +fontconfig-2.7.2-1.fc11.i586 -glib2-2.20.4-1.fc11.i586 +glib2-2.20.5-1.fc11.i586 -gnome-settings-daemon-2.26.1-8.fc11.i586 +gnome-settings-daemon-2.26.1-10.fc11.i586 -gtk2-2.16.5-1.fc11.i586 +gtk2-2.16.6-2.fc11.i586 -hulahop-0.4.9-7.fc11.i586 +hulahop-0.4.9-8.fc11.i586 -kernel-2.6.30_xo1-20090806.0005.1.olpc.1a4850b.i586 -kernel-firmware-2.6.30_xo1-20090806.0005.1.olpc.1a4850b.i586 +kernel-2.6.30_xo1-20090919.0116.1.olpc.d2189d4.i586 +kernel-firmware-2.6.30_xo1-20090919.0116.1.olpc.d2189d4.i586 +libcap-ng-0.6.1-1.fc11.i586 -libmikmod-3.2.0-4.beta2.fc11.i586 +libmikmod-3.2.0-5.beta2.fc11.i586 -libpurple-2.6.1-1.fc11.i586 -libraw1394-2.0.1-2.fc11.i586 +libpurple-2.6.2-1.fc11.i586 +libraw1394-2.0.4-1.fc11.i586 -libselinux-utils-2.0.80-1.fc11.i586 -libsemanage-2.0.31-4.fc11.i586 -libsilc-1.1.8-5.fc11.i586 +libsilc-1.1.8-7.fc11.i586 -libudev0-141-4.fc11.i586 +libudev0-141-7.fc11.i586 -libv4l-0.6.0-1.fc11.i586 +libv4l-0.6.1-1.fc11.i586 -libvolume_id-141-4.fc11.i586 +libvolume_id-141-7.fc11.i586 -libXext-1.0.99.1-2.fc11.i586 +libXext-1.0.99.1-3.fc11.i586 -libxml2-2.7.3-3.fc11.i586 -libxml2-python-2.7.3-3.fc11.i586 +libxml2-2.7.4-2.fc11.i586 +libxml2-python-2.7.4-2.fc11.i586 -libxslt-1.1.24-4.fc11.i586 +libxslt-1.1.25-1.fc11.i586 -lzma-4.32.7-2.fc11.i586 -lzma-libs-4.32.7-2.fc11.i586 +lyx-cmex10-fonts-1.6.4-1.fc11.noarch +lyx-cmmi10-fonts-1.6.4-1.fc11.noarch +lyx-cmr10-fonts-1.6.4-1.fc11.noarch +lyx-cmsy10-fonts-1.6.4-1.fc11.noarch +lyx-esint10-fonts-1.6.4-1.fc11.noarch +lyx-eufm10-fonts-1.6.4-1.fc11.noarch +lyx-fonts-common-1.6.4-1.fc11.noarch +lyx-fonts-compat-1.6.4-1.fc11.noarch +lyx-msam10-fonts-1.6.4-1.fc11.noarch +lyx-msbm10-fonts-1.6.4-1.fc11.noarch +lyx-wasy10-fonts-1.6.4-1.fc11.noarch -mathml-fonts-1.0-23.fc11.noarch -nautilus-2.26.3-2.fc11.i586 -nautilus-extensions-2.26.3-2.fc11.i586 +nash-6.0.87-4.fc11.i586 +nautilus-2.26.3-3.fc11.i586 +nautilus-extensions-2.26.3-3.fc11.i586 -nfs-utils-1.2.0-4.fc11.i586 +nfs-utils-1.2.0-5.fc11.i586 -nss-3.12.3.99.3-2.11.4.fc11.i586 +nss-3.12.4-3.fc11.i586 -nss-softokn-freebl-3.12.3.99.3-2.11.4.fc11.i586 +nss-softokn-freebl-3.12.4-3.fc11.i586 -openldap-2.4.15-3.fc11.i586 +openldap-2.4.15-5.fc11.i586 -pciutils-3.1.3-1.fc11.i586 -pciutils-libs-3.1.3-1.fc11.i586 +pciutils-3.1.4-2.fc11.i586 +pciutils-libs-3.1.4-2.fc11.i586 +plymouth-scripts-0.7.0-0.2009.05.15.1.fc11.i586 -policycoreutils-2.0.62-12.12.fc11.i586 -pulseaudio-libs-0.9.15-14.fc11.i586 -pulseaudio-libs-glib2-0.9.15-14.fc11.i586 +pulseaudio-libs-0.9.15-17.fc11.i586 +pulseaudio-libs-glib2-0.9.15-17.fc11.i586 -smartmontools-5.38-11.fc11.i586 -sos-1.8-14.fc11.noarch +smartmontools-5.38-13.fc11.i586 +sos-1.8-16.fc11.noarch -taglib-1.5-4.fc11.i586 +taglib-1.5-9.fc11.i586 -telepathy-gabble-0.7.26-2.fc11.i586 +telepathy-gabble-0.7.26-3.fc11.i586 -totem-2.26.3-3.fc11.i586 -totem-gstreamer-2.26.3-3.fc11.i586 -totem-mozplugin-2.26.3-3.fc11.i586 +totem-2.26.3-5.fc11.i586 +totem-gstreamer-2.26.3-5.fc11.i586
Re: Devel Digest, Vol 45, Issue 37
Martin, By modifying the jffs2 images directly won't we lose the customized tarball and contents file that the XS uses to provide OS updates to XOs? DSD has a good how to here that illustrates what I mean: http://wiki.paraguayeduca.org/index.php/Construir_OS Reuben On Nov 17, 2009, at 3:54 PM, devel-requ...@lists.laptop.org wrote: Message: 1 Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:22:00 + From: Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org Subject: Re: Mounting jffs2 images on F11 / kernel 2.6.31? To: Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com Cc: OLPC Devel devel@lists.laptop.org Message-ID: 1258482120.2738.12.ca...@localhost.localdomain Content-Type: text/plain On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 19:11 +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote: Has this been seen before? Background: Turns out that using block2mtd, a loop device and some elbow grease, it is reasonably easy to mount jffs2 images on a normal linux host. (This is helping me simplify image-builder...) I saw this before while working with block2mtd on another project and was basically told not to use it. Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Devel Digest, Vol 45, Issue 53
How about suggestions for programs on the Gnome side? On Nov 23, 2009, at 6:57 PM, devel-requ...@lists.laptop.org wrote: Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:05:53 -0500 From: Chris Ball c...@laptop.org Subject: Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5 To: devel@lists.laptop.org Cc: i...@lists.sugarlabs.org Message-ID: m37hth6oz2@pullcord.laptop.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi folks, We'd like your help in coming up with a list of default-installed Sugar activities for the XO-1.5 software release. The current activity list, which wasn't chosen with any particular criteria or thoughtfulness, is: Analyze Browse Calculate Chat Distance Etoys Implode Infoslicer IRC Jukebox Labyrinth Log Maze Measure Memorize Moon Paint Physics Pippy Read Record Scratch Speak TamTam * Terminal Turtle Art Typing Turtle Words Write Any suggestions for activities to add? A reasonable set of criteria for looking at the suggestions seems like: (a) works on 0.84 (and preferably 0.82) (b) complete translations for OLPC deployment countries (c) reasonably low disk space use (d) download popularity on activities.sugarlabs.org Thanks! - Chris. -- Chris Ball c...@laptop.org One Laptop Per Child ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5
On Nov 30, 2009, at 3:54 PM, Chris Ball wrote: Hi, [Added ericb to CC; Eric, we're talking about which applications to include by default on our OLPC XO-1.5 software release.] How about suggestions for programs on the Gnome side? That's a good idea, thanks. I haven't decided what to do about OpenOffice yet -- at the moment we don't ship it, but do ship abiword and gnumeric. The options for it look something like: * just add the openoffice.org Fedora packages for GNOME. (How much disk space would that use?) To provide the somewhat equivalent programs in full version OOo in comparison to OOo4kids: openoffice.org-writer openoffice.org-calc openoffice.org-draw openoffice.org-impress a yum install takes up ~300 MB, though I believe some of that is the actual download. * just add the Ooo4Kids activity for Sugar. * just add the Ooo4Kids activity for Sugar, *and* find a way to make the same activity launchable inside GNOME. This would need Ooo4Kids to be useful for older kids as well, since they're the target audience for using GNOME instead of Sugar. The OOo4Kids activity is here: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4241 (100MB) Claudia and I have been working with OOo4kids for the past few days and I really like it in both Sugar and Gnome and on my own Mac. (It can be launched in Gnome through /home/olpc/Activities/ OOo4Kids.activity/resources/program/soffice) It has very nice icon driven interface and has much of the functionality I would expect in typical office applications. I like the idea of have a single application that is usuable in both environments to reduce the overall footprint. Could we have it linked into the Gnome Menu? The one question I have is in regards to localization. Can we have one bundle that supports localization, i.e. changes default language according sugar/OFW values, or would we need different bundles? Thanks, Reuben ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5
The only different one that comes to mind is WikiBrowse, a Wiki Slice. We have both an English and Spanish version. (*No French yet...*) However, as Martin said, aside from Activities where the localization work has not been done yet, OLPC does attempt to ship software that contains localized strings. Reuben On Dec 3, 2009, at 8:00 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: We currently do this for all (most?) other software we ship, mainly because the compiled gettext files don't take that much space. So I am pointing out that OOo is different. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5
With the localization question sorted out. Now how about my question on getting ooo4kids linked on the Gnome side so both sugar and Gnome can share the same program? I believe we are doing this with etoys. Can we do it with ooo4kids? Reuben On Dec 3, 2009, at 9:39 AM, Bastien wrote: Ed McNierney e...@laptop.org writes: Yes. I'm not sure how massive deployments are relevant, but we currently have one standard software image that is installed at the factory on all XOs. You are suggesting that we create unique software images, one for each SKU, to be managed and installed separately by OLPC and Quanta for each deployment. We are miscommunicating, I guess i used the word bundle out of its normal context. I was just suggesting to have *two* Ooo4Kids activities on activities.sugarlabs.org, one in english and one in spanish. Trying to put both english and spanish languages in a unique activity would make it too big I guess. -- Bastien ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5
As I said it can be launched in Gnome through /home/olpc/Activities/ OOo4Kids.activity/resources/program/soffice. So I guess the question becomes is it sufficient to just link to this in the Gnome side and if so how can our build system incorporate this in the process? I believe we are doing the same thing with etoys. How are we handling this with etoys? Thanks, Reuben On Dec 6, 2009, at 4:58 PM, Chris Ball wrote: Hi Eric, Now how about my question on getting ooo4kids linked on the Gnome side so both sugar and Gnome can share the same program? I'm not sure to get what you mean. Can you explain more? To clarify, Reuben's asking about having a launcher inside the GNOME environment that is able to launch the same version of OOo4Kids that we run inside Sugar -- our laptop switches between GNOME and Sugar, and we'd like OOo4Kids to be accessible in both. So, it's not directly a question about toolkits (Gtk vs. others), just whether there's a way to run the Sugar activity from outside of Sugar. Thanks, - Chris. -- Chris Ball c...@laptop.org One Laptop Per Child ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
1.5 - gnome-packagekit?
In the sugar environment we have the great resource of activities.sugarlabs.org that children can browse through to add new activities. However, on the Gnome side of things we only have the yum terminal commands. While I realize children can add, remove, and install programs using such commands, it is a bit problematic when you don't know the name of what you are searching for or the actual name of the package you want to install or remove. -Should we include gnome-packagekit to provide such functionality? -Or would including it increase the complexities of managing deployments? Since .XO and .XOL bundles were specifically designed to be safe for installation and removal, I'm concerned the inclusion of gnome- packagekit would allow one to more easily break their installation but I also think it would be nice for children to explore the rest of what Fedora has to provide. Regards, Reuben ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Alternative to Create a new wireless network
Daniel, Since we've run into problems with creating ad-hocs networks on the XO 1.5 (1) (2), I've been thinking about this functionality, the change in UI behavior and perhaps the decrease in usability and I don't like it. I believe it is clunky to have children create their own networks..Who designates who creates the network? Why do I have to join that network? Why can't I make my own network and have them join me, etc.. All of this is aside from the technical limitations of which channel does my network get created on. Does the user specify channels 1, 6, or 11 when creating the network, or does the channel randomly get set? If randomly set, how do we avoid channel overlaps and interference. To ease all of this and maintain a similar UI, what if we: -Create three faux Mesh Channel # icons in the Network view -When the child wants to join a mesh network they will select one of the networks -Upon selection: the XO will: 1. Scan to see if that ad-hoc network already exists and 2. if it does not exist the XO will create the network allowing other children to join it. The one pitfall of this idea, and I'm not sure how much of an issue this would be, is also the pitfall of ad-hoc networks...when the initiator of the ad-hoc network leaves the network fails. When the network has a respective name it is a bit more obvious when that person has left and the reason why the network has failed, this would not be the case given the anonymity of a Mesh Network #. A more long term solution to this problem may be for the XO to sense the loss of the initiator and recreate the network. In this case, the first XO to sense the loss of the network after some period of time would check if another XO has already setup the network, if not the XO would create the network or join the new one if it already exists. Aside from the one pitfall, I think it would be really beneficial to maintain the same UI and appearance of functionality. Further development in this area may also help us get MPP back, at least at the software level. Your thoughts? Regards, Reuben (1) http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9807 (2) http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1604 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Alternative to Create a new wireless network
On Dec 7, 2009, at 9:12 PM, John Watlington wrote: On Dec 7, 2009, at 9:04 PM, Reuben K. Caron wrote: Daniel, Since we've run into problems with creating ad-hocs networks on the XO 1.5 (1) (2), I've been thinking about this functionality, the change in UI behavior and perhaps the decrease in usability and I don't like it. I believe it is clunky to have children create their own networks..Who designates who creates the network? Why do I have to join that network? Why can't I make my own network and have them join me, etc.. All of this is aside from the technical limitations of which channel does my network get created on. Does the user specify channels 1, 6, or 11 when creating the network, or does the channel randomly get set? If randomly set, how do we avoid channel overlaps and interference. To ease all of this and maintain a similar UI, what if we: -Create three faux Mesh Channel # icons in the Network view -When the child wants to join a mesh network they will select one of the networks -Upon selection: the XO will: 1. Scan to see if that ad-hoc network already exists and 2. if it does not exist the XO will create the network allowing other children to join it. The one pitfall of this idea, and I'm not sure how much of an issue this would be, is also the pitfall of ad-hoc networks...when the initiator of the ad-hoc network leaves the network fails. I don't understand why you say this. AFAIK, this is not the expected behavior of ad-hoc networks. Yes, of course, you are correct. I was confusing this with the single- hop MPP mode idea. So I guess there are no pitfalls to this..? When the network has a respective name it is a bit more obvious when that person has left and the reason why the network has failed, this would not be the case given the anonymity of a Mesh Network #. A more long term solution to this problem may be for the XO to sense the loss of the initiator and recreate the network. In this case, the first XO to sense the loss of the network after some period of time would check if another XO has already setup the network, if not the XO would create the network or join the new one if it already exists. Aside from the one pitfall, I think it would be really beneficial to maintain the same UI and appearance of functionality. Further development in this area may also help us get MPP back, at least at the software level. There is no question that we want to avoid changes in this UI --- this is already one of the more complex actions that we expect teachers/ students to do. Changing it mid-stream would be very confusing. Absolutely, explaining the concept of joining Mesh Network # was complicated and confusing enough, it would be a shame to have to re- teach all of that. Since you've corrected my pitfall, do you see any negatives to this? Reuben ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 1.5 - gnome-packagekit?
On Dec 8, 2009, at 4:52 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/12/8 Reuben K. Caron reu...@laptop.org: -Should we include gnome-packagekit to provide such functionality? -Or would including it increase the complexities of managing deployments? One disadvantage of doing this is that it would harm the use of olpc-update -- pristine updates would fail. And also the software would be silently lost when an olpc-update happens, which is now something we're automating in various places. I think it shouldn't be included in the build although it can remain an option for deployments to add it. Yes, good point. Thanks for the reminder. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 1.5 - gnome-packagekit?
Neil, Thanks for bringing this up. It looks like this could be of some value to deployments and something they could easily add should they choose to customize their build image. Keep up the good work and let us know how development is going. Regards, Reuben On Dec 7, 2009, at 7:54 PM, Neil Graham wrote: On Mon, 2009-12-07 at 19:13 -0500, Reuben K. Caron wrote: Since .XO and .XOL bundles were specifically designed to be safe for installation and removal, I'm concerned the inclusion of gnome- packagekit would allow one to more easily break their installation but I also think it would be nice for children to explore the rest of what Fedora has to provide. Perhaps this is something for Zeroinstall http://0install.net/ . ZeroInstall allows for installation of software as a user so you can do things without making system level changes. I'm working on a setup for the XO that can give you a custom environment. The entire thing goes into $HOME. I uses Zeroinstall to grab everything as needed, even the window manager. In practice the bundle comes with the window manager but that is merely as a pre- filled zeroinstall cache entry. Because everything is done at the user level, it is very hard to break things, but it still allows users to have a great deal of flexibility with their system. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Alternative to Create a new wireless network
On Dec 8, 2009, at 4:59 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: It's a good idea and is doable, although not for friday. You should put it in trac (and the SL one too). Done: http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1610 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9845 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: B R E A K T H R O U G H -- F11-on-XO1 has working video player
On Jan 27, 2010, at 2:29 AM, Raul Gutierrez Segales wrote: Any other major blocker that deserves attention? Have the items here been resolved? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-olpc-list/2010-January/msg00020.html ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Using SoaS Blueberry to emulate OLPC F11 builds
Martin, Blueberry is based on F12. The package differences will be much different. Reuben On Feb 9, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: (I am not sub'd to the soas list -- can a kind admin whitelist me?) Hi OLPC, SoaS folks, we have a deployment that wants to use SoaS for early teacher training before they have (enough) XOs in their hands. Besides the obvious indications that they pre-test the hw they'll run it on, and the shut down SoaS carefully recommendation, I drafted a plan for them to make Blueberry more like OLPC's F11: - Take a XO (1 or 1.5) running the OLPC F11 image, get the package list with `rpm -qa | sort todos-los-paquetes.lista` - Get a box of USB sticks -- all same make, model size. - On one of the USB sticks, create a SoaS with a generous overlay. - Start up SoaS on a machine with internet connection - Get the package list on SoaS with the same command - Compare the 2 lists, and on the SoaS side install anything that is missing (using yum) Skip the kernel package. - Restart the machine with SoaS to check that now you have the swtich to gnome option in the control panel, and the option to return to Sugar on the Gnome desktop. (Will this Just Work, or did we hardcode /home/olpc or the olpc uid?...) - Once the SoaS works as expected, restart it, switch to a VT, and as the root user delete /home/liveuser/.sugar and then use the command `halt` to shut down the system. - Duplicate that exact SoaS disk using the dd command on any Linux machine Will this work? Is it easy to tell liveusb creator to add a few rpms...? cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Using SoaS Blueberry to emulate OLPC F11 builds
Martin, It looks like SOAS Strawberry will more closely relate to OLPC F11 builds. Strawberry is based on F11 and Sugar 0.84. Reuben On Feb 9, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: (I am not sub'd to the soas list -- can a kind admin whitelist me?) Hi OLPC, SoaS folks, we have a deployment that wants to use SoaS for early teacher training before they have (enough) XOs in their hands. Besides the obvious indications that they pre-test the hw they'll run it on, and the shut down SoaS carefully recommendation, I drafted a plan for them to make Blueberry more like OLPC's F11: - Take a XO (1 or 1.5) running the OLPC F11 image, get the package list with `rpm -qa | sort todos-los-paquetes.lista` - Get a box of USB sticks -- all same make, model size. - On one of the USB sticks, create a SoaS with a generous overlay. - Start up SoaS on a machine with internet connection - Get the package list on SoaS with the same command - Compare the 2 lists, and on the SoaS side install anything that is missing (using yum) Skip the kernel package. - Restart the machine with SoaS to check that now you have the swtich to gnome option in the control panel, and the option to return to Sugar on the Gnome desktop. (Will this Just Work, or did we hardcode /home/olpc or the olpc uid?...) - Once the SoaS works as expected, restart it, switch to a VT, and as the root user delete /home/liveuser/.sugar and then use the command `halt` to shut down the system. - Duplicate that exact SoaS disk using the dd command on any Linux machine Will this work? Is it easy to tell liveusb creator to add a few rpms...? cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [SoaS] Using SoaS Blueberry to emulate OLPC F11 builds
On Feb 9, 2010, at 4:53 PM, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: Martin Langhoff wrote: (I am not sub'd to the soas list -- can a kind admin whitelist me?) Your e-mail seems to have made it through to the archives, so you should be good. :) Hi OLPC, SoaS folks, we have a deployment that wants to use SoaS for early teacher training before they have (enough) XOs in their hands. Cool, glad to hear this! Besides the obvious indications that they pre-test the hw they'll run it on, and the shut down SoaS carefully recommendation, I drafted a plan for them to make Blueberry more like OLPC's F11: Mhm, I'm not entirely sure I understand why this would be needed. - Take a XO (1 or 1.5) running the OLPC F11 image, get the package list with `rpm -qa | sort todos-los-paquetes.lista` - Get a box of USB sticks -- all same make, model size. - On one of the USB sticks, create a SoaS with a generous overlay. - Start up SoaS on a machine with internet connection - Get the package list on SoaS with the same command - Compare the 2 lists, and on the SoaS side install anything that is missing (using yum) Skip the kernel package. The major issue you'll run into here is that the XO images contain a number of non-Fedora repositories. So attempting to install the packages these repos provide will just fail on SoaS, unless you add them manually. Also, some of the packages might affect how SoaS works on normal machines (thinking of olpc-utils here). - Restart the machine with SoaS to check that now you have the swtich to gnome option in the control panel, and the option to return to Sugar on the Gnome desktop. (Will this Just Work, or did we hardcode /home/olpc or the olpc uid?...) I think the olpc-switch-desktop package in Fedora should do the trick. However, I heard some time ago (might be wrong, though) that it was dependent on olpc-dm, which is in the olpc-utils package and contains the hardcoded olpc username. - Once the SoaS works as expected, restart it, switch to a VT, and as the root user delete /home/liveuser/.sugar and then use the command `halt` to shut down the system. This is certainly a good step to do. I'm not so sure about SSH keys and stuff, which might be another thing you don't necessarily want to copy all over. - Duplicate that exact SoaS disk using the dd command on any Linux machine Yeah... well, I'd advise to try a line like this on a modified and rebuilt image: livecd-iso-to-disk --overlay-size-mb xxx /dev/sr0 / dev/sdc1 Will this work? Is it easy to tell liveusb creator to add a few rpms...? It might work. But it could very well break. I'm still curious about the reasoning behind adding all these olpc-* packages. Instead, you might want to consider just adding the @gnome-desktop group and the olpc-switch-desktop package to the SoaS kickstart file and spin a rebuild (after some minor modifications), which you could reasonably well put on the keys, too. FWIW, I tried almost the same exact process on a machine that I had installed Blueberry on by using the zyx-installer. Blueberry was installed. I ran yum groupinstall GNOME Desktop Environment and then yum install olpc-switch-desktop. Rebooted and was auto-logged into the Gnome Desktop as SOAS User. Switching desktops did not work, even after I created an olpc user. Let me know if there is anything you'd like me to try. I guess it's really about time to think about how to make the customization process easier. Cheers, --Sebastian cheers, m ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: q3a35 problem
The same procedure worked correctly for me on a ramp unit that has the solar modification by Wad. On Mar 10, 2010, at 10:44 PM, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: XO-1.5 B2 (unmodified hardware). At ok prompt did 'flash u: \q3a35.rom'; after restart did 'fs-update u:\os112.zd'. That failed (with a message about only 1 block being written). Repeated the above, but this time flashing q3a34.rom. Now the install of os112.zd worked. mikus ___ olpc mailing list o...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/olpc ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: q3a35 problem
On Mar 12, 2010, at 12:52 AM, Mikus Grinbergs mi...@bga.com wrote: You have to ensure that the firmware reflash actually occurred properly before continuing. ... I believe the above actions are the normal ones to perform a firmware reflash. When you say you have to ensure -- what more do you expect from the user ? Yep. If the firmware update wasn't happening (say, due to no DC input), it would explain several of your symptoms. I do not understand your Yep (and following). I asked What more do you expect? Ypu said Yep -- but did not explain as to *what more* you would expect from the user who is performing a firmware reflash. Yould you please clarify. You also said If the firmware update wasn't happening (say, due to no DC input). But what I posted to you in this thread was: What I do is to wait while 'flash u:\q3a35.rom' steps through writing, then steps through verifying, then restarts the XO-1.5. I would expect that if there were no DC input, then the 'flash' command would not display the writing and veifying countdowns on the console -- I believe I am justified in thinking the firmware update *was* happening. Again - please tell me WHAT MORE a user performing a firmware reflash can do to ensure that the firmware reflash actually occurred ? On reboot press the x key (esc) to get to open firmware and check the ofw banner at the top of the screen. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Devel Digest, Vol 49, Issue 40
Have you tried Firefox? Check the bug here for more details: http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1700 On Mar 22, 2010, at 8:33 AM, devel-requ...@lists.laptop.org wrote: Message: 1 Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 20:53:18 -0300 From: Marcos Orfila morf...@marcosorfila.com Subject: Java applets in Browse activity To: devel@lists.laptop.org Message-ID: b74bf3cf1003211653j1129f55chd9ed98d6201a6...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello everybody. I'm volunteering at CeibalJAM [0]. I'm trying to make Java applets work in the Browse activity. I have seen in [1] that Browse can handle Java applets. I've created an activity called Java that packs the Sun JRE. The activity is downloadable from [2]. The JRE gets installed in the following folder: /home/olpc/Activities/Java.activity/jre Then I created a symbolic link to the Java plugin in the plugin folder of the Browse activity: [o...@xo-1e-5d-7a plugins]$ pwd /home/olpc/Activities/Browse.activity/plugins [o...@xo-1e-5d-7a plugins]$ ln -s ../../Java.activity/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so libjavaplugin_oji.so [o...@xo-1e-5d-7a plugins]$ I guess I have to do something else to make it work. Maybe something in the conf/mozpluggerrc file? Regards, Marcos [0] http://ceibaljam.org [1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Category:Browser_plugins [2] http://activities.ceibaljam.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Adobe Flash 10.1 + AIR 2.0 on the XO
This is an odd argument considering it is quite difficult for a user to create a simple reflash USB stick while using Sugar. Instead we recommend using another computer that uses a regular Desktop.(1) (1)http://wiki.laptop.org/go/No-fail_update On Mar 23, 2010, at 9:46 PM, devel-requ...@lists.laptop.org wrote: Maybe the reason we're miscommunicating is that you don't understand that we aren't willing to expect that our users have access to another computer running Windows (because they don't), or for them to use a text editor to edit content that was created in a GUI (since that's *much* harder, and is treating them as a second-class citizen). The XO is all we have to work with. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Adobe Flash 10.1 + AIR 2.0 on the XO
Carlos, +1 Thank you for bringing this up. FYI: One of our largest deployments and two other smaller deployments have received approval to ship Adobe Flash in their builds. IMHO, OLPC would be able to provide deployments with the option of including Adobe Flash, while continuing to include Gnash as default, if they wish to do so without having to jump through the hurdles of applying and waiting for individual approval. Regards, Reuben On Mar 23, 2010, at 12:00 PM, devel-requ...@lists.laptop.org wrote: Message: 2 Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 22:51:42 +0800 From: Carlos Nazareno object...@gmail.com Subject: Adobe Flash 10.1 + AIR 2.0 on the XO To: devel@lists.laptop.org Message-ID: c58c2c4a1003230751k1391afb4m84e5fe832bff3...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi guys. I know most people here prefer free as in Libre as opposed to free as in beer, but what do you think of coordinating with Adobe to get Flash 10.1 + AIR 2.0 on the XO? Adobe already supports a lot of open-source initiatives and have already open-sourced the Flex SDK which you can use to compile SWFs using text files and a command line a la JDK (or in Windows, using an open-source IDE like Flashdevelop (needs .NET runtime)). http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk Flash's spec is open, but they cannot opensource the Flash Player or AIR because they contain technologies which Adobe does not own but pays licensing fees for. With stuff like Youtube (using the camera to record a video, something you cannot do with HTML5), UStream and games (which kids dig a lot), the internet experience really isn't complete without Flash. Moreover, the big difference is that with the Actionscript Virtual Machine 2 which uses Actionscript 3, the speed difference from the AVM1 (Actionscript 1/2 like GNASH) is 10x or more, which is very important since we're talking about low-speed/power devices here. Also, Flash Player 10.1 has been engineered for mobile devices so it should run very efficiently on the XO 1.5 (you can only do so much with the XO-1, but Flash 10 beats GNASH's performance on it nonetheless). Also (sorry John, Rob), Actionscript 2 is a dead technology which needs to be put to rest (and there are few practical open source tools to generate AS2/AVM1 SWFs). GNASH simply cannot catch up with the features that are being implemented with each new release of Flash.. Also, Adobe is actively pushing Flash on as many devices as possible via the Open Screen Project http://www.openscreenproject.org and I'm sure they'd be more than happy to have Flash get bundled on the XO. Also, Flash is the most commonly used toolset for building educational apps. Not everyone has the skill or patience to programmatically animate objects in e-learning applications. What I mean is that it's very efficient. What do you guys think? -- carlos nazareno http://twitter.com/object404 http://www.object404.com -- interactive media specialist zen graffiti studios http://www.zengraffiti.com -- if you don't like the way the world is running, then change it instead of just complaining. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Adobe Flash 10.1 + AIR 2.0 on the XO
On Mar 24, 2010, at 7:52 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Reuben K. Caron reu...@laptop.org wrote: IMHO, OLPC would be able to provide deployments with the option of including Adobe Flash, while continuing to include Gnash as default There are some aspects that are outside of OLPC control - We need RPMs from Adobe -- in the case if AIR, they are not available. Carlos and anyone else interested _must chase Adobe_, not OLPC. Yes and no. Anyone technically capable to rebuild our build system, as you mention below, will be able to easily script the installation of AIR. - Licensing issues need to be sorted out. Carlos and anyone interested _must chase Adobe_, not OLPC. No again, OLPC should have done the legwork so deployments don't have to jump through the hurdles of obtaining licensing from Adobe. - If Adobe cares about running well on XOs, Adobe should ask for laptops through the contributors programme (like everyone else!). Carlos any anyone interested must chase Adobe on that. I'll work with Carlos on this. With those 2 sorted out, it's damned trivial to add it to an 8.2.x build (using my latest patches to install arbitrary rpms), and thanks to the more flexible build system for f11 builds it's trivial to add it to an XO-1.5 image. There is noone at OLPC blocking this. Go folks, go lobby Adobe. Agreed. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Adobe Flash 10.1 + AIR 2.0 on the XO
On Mar 24, 2010, at 12:44 AM, Chris Ball wrote: Hi, Maybe the reason we're miscommunicating is that you don't understand that we aren't willing to expect that our users have access to another computer running Windows (because they don't) [..] This is an odd argument considering it is quite difficult for a user to create a simple reflash USB stick while using Sugar. Instead we recommend using another computer that uses a regular Desktop.(1) Chris, Hi. Thank you for the response. This seems to be the fallacy of it's on OLPC's wiki, therefore OLPC wrote it as a guide for its users in deployments. The support-gang wrote this page for the G1G1 community, as the page history shows. You are correct the original intended audience for the article was the G1G1 community; however, the fact remains that it continues to be the most usable and easily followed set of instructions we have. In any case, I don't see why it's worthwhile to think of these two problems as remotely comparable: You're correct, I'm confusing a technical/philosophical argument by adding a real-world/on-the-ground/deployment-needs argument. 1) no-one has yet decided to help deployments by spending five minutes writing an activity that downloads a build onto a USB stick plugged into an XO, but anyone could do it at any time, including someone who is a user in a deployment. 5 minutes...then why hasn't it happened?!?! Oh I know! The barrier to entry for writing an activity is too high and, unlike Flash, a relatively small number of people know how to do it...If flash were more widely supported on the XO, I'm sure such a Flash APP would already exist. 2) it is nowhere near possible to properly edit Flash content in a GUI on an XO because the software to do so does not exist, and suffers from a complex and underspecified set of compatibility requirements. I'll refrain from listing the software on the XO that is nowhere near possible to edit on the XO because either the source code is not available or the XO does not meet the technical requirements to run necessary software. Thanks, Reuben ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Adobe Flash 10.1 + AIR 2.0 on the XO
Ed, Great news. Thanks for letting us know and thank you for doing the legwork to get that accomplished. Reuben On Mar 24, 2010, at 8:59 AM, Ed McNierney wrote: Folks - OLPC already has a license from Adobe to redistribute Adobe Flash. We can provide that to any deployment that requests it; if a deployment decides they need it, we don't need to force them to install it themselves. However, Adobe pointed out that since OLPC's Linux distro (a Fedora Remix) is not a supported platform, they're not interested in bug reports unless they are reproduced on stock Fedora and reported as Fedora bugs. Having spoken to Adobe about this, I found absolutely no evidence that anyone there's eager to do anything specific for OLPC XO laptops. I also made no effort to sell them on the idea; I just wanted to be sure that if a deployment decided on their own that they needed to provide the Adobe Flash player, OLPC wasn't unreasonably making it harder than necessary for them. - Ed On Mar 24, 2010, at 8:53 AM, Reuben K. Caron wrote: On Mar 24, 2010, at 7:52 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Reuben K. Caron reu...@laptop.org wrote: IMHO, OLPC would be able to provide deployments with the option of including Adobe Flash, while continuing to include Gnash as default There are some aspects that are outside of OLPC control - We need RPMs from Adobe -- in the case if AIR, they are not available. Carlos and anyone else interested _must chase Adobe_, not OLPC. Yes and no. Anyone technically capable to rebuild our build system, as you mention below, will be able to easily script the installation of AIR. - Licensing issues need to be sorted out. Carlos and anyone interested _must chase Adobe_, not OLPC. No again, OLPC should have done the legwork so deployments don't have to jump through the hurdles of obtaining licensing from Adobe. - If Adobe cares about running well on XOs, Adobe should ask for laptops through the contributors programme (like everyone else!). Carlos any anyone interested must chase Adobe on that. I'll work with Carlos on this. With those 2 sorted out, it's damned trivial to add it to an 8.2.x build (using my latest patches to install arbitrary rpms), and thanks to the more flexible build system for f11 builds it's trivial to add it to an XO-1.5 image. There is noone at OLPC blocking this. Go folks, go lobby Adobe. Agreed. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] Fwd: [SoaS] wireless connection school server
David, Keeping the list on. So to be clear the XOs are connected to an Active Antenna and the SOAS is connected to an AP? How is the AP connected to the XS? Reuben On Mar 29, 2010, at 3:40 PM, David Leeming wrote: The XOs are connected to the school server default 172.18.00 network via a single AP (in this case an AA). The issue is that when I connect the computer running SOAS Wirelessly, the XS gives it an IP address in another range (10.42.xxx.xxx) so it can't see or collaborate with the XOs. However, if I make a wired connection with the SOAS to eth1 it does get the default IP range 172.18.xxx.xxx and collaborates OK. The XS is running with default configuration. David Leeming Leeming Consulting, P.O. Box 652, Honiara, Solomon Islands Tel: +677 747-6396 (m) 24419 (h) www.leeming-consulting.com -Original Message- From: Reuben K. Caron [mailto:reu...@laptop.org] Sent: Tuesday, 30 March 2010 2:00 a.m. To: David Leeming Cc: XS Devel Subject: Re: [Server-devel] Fwd: [SoaS] wireless connection school server On Mar 29, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: [Forwarding to the XS list] -- Forwarded message -- From: David Leeming da...@leeming-consulting.com Date: Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 23:02 Subject: [SoaS] wireless connection school server To: SoaS s...@lists.sugarlabs.org Not sure if this is an SOAS or XS question or both! I am trying out a mixed environment with XO-1s and SOAS. The XOs are connected and registered on an XS with v 0.6. They connect to a default network 172.18.0.0 wirelessly. What wireless network are the XOs connected to? I have one PC netbook running SOAS 2 Blueberry. I can connect wirelessly but it gives me a different network 10.42.xxx.xxx (or close). The wireless icon on the SOAS shows me connected to the school server but I can't access any resources or register etc. Is this connected to the same wireless network? The same exact AP? If you have multiple APs are they all configured to act as a bridge to the wired network so that the XS can hand out IP addresses?2 snip What would I see if I had 2 or more computers running SOAS, connecting wirelessly? Should they be receiving IP addresses in the default range (172.18.0.0) or the other range I was observing (10.42.xxx.xxx)? They should all have 172 addresses. Tell us more about how your networking is setup. Regards, Reuben ___ Server-devel mailing list server-de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Fwd: [SoaS] wireless connection school server
David, Also to be clear, the SOAS will not connect to the AA (Active Antenna). Reuben On Mar 29, 2010, at 3:42 PM, David Leeming wrote: OK so it should work I assume you're using an AP and I am using an AA. Thatb is the only difference as far as I can see. I will try again with a fresh XS and AP and report back... David Leeming -Original Message- From: server-devel-boun...@lists.laptop.org [mailto:server-devel-boun...@lists.laptop.org] On Behalf Of Andra DuPont Sent: Tuesday, 30 March 2010 1:10 a.m. To: Tomeu Vizoso Cc: XS Devel Subject: Re: [Server-devel] Fwd: [SoaS] wireless connection school server David, Today was my first attempt at using SOAS on a PC. Actually I loaded it onto and Acer Aspire One netbook. When I connected wirelessly to my XS server access point, my IP was the standard 172.18.96.* and after changing the default server address under / My Settings / Network, I registered onto the server with no problem. Actually, this was the first XO to ever register onto my server, so it was given the course creator role. I'm not sure why your PC was assigned a different network. You should check to see how DHCP was set up on your wireless connection. Or maybe someone here will have an explanation. Bottom line for me right now is that my netbook is connected wirelessly and registered as if it was an XO (running Sugar of course). Andy On Mar 29, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: [Forwarding to the XS list] -- Forwarded message -- From: David Leeming da...@leeming-consulting.com Date: Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 23:02 Subject: [SoaS] wireless connection school server To: SoaS s...@lists.sugarlabs.org Not sure if this is an SOAS or XS question or both! I am trying out a mixed environment with XO-1s and SOAS. The XOs are connected and registered on an XS with v 0.6. They connect to a default network 172.18.0.0 wirelessly. I have one PC netbook running SOAS 2 Blueberry. I can connect wirelessly but it gives me a different network 10.42.xxx.xxx (or close). The wireless icon on the SOAS shows me connected to the school server but I can't access any resources or register etc. I then found I can do a wired connection, which works fine. It connects on the default 172.18.0.0 network and I can access the XS Moodle home page - which requires a username/password. It won't let me in or register the SOAS netbook until I created a user account using the admin XO. I had to manually input the server qualified name in the control panel of the SOAS netbook, and then I was able to register and collaborate with the XOs (i.e. with the SOAS on a wired connection and the XOs wireless). Is this correct or have I missed an easier way? What would I see if I had 2 or more computers running SOAS, connecting wirelessly? Should they be receiving IP addresses in the default range (172.18.0.0) or the other range I was observing (10.42.xxx.xxx)? David Leeming In PNG ___ SoaS mailing list s...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ Server-devel mailing list server-de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list server-de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list server-de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list server-de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: Adobe Flash 10.1 + AIR 2.0 on the XO
On Mar 24, 2010, at 10:30 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Reuben K. Caron reu...@laptop.org wrote: Yes and no. Anyone technically capable to rebuild our build system, as you mention below, will be able to easily script the installation of AIR. Nope. I am fairly good with it, and I cannot script the installation of AIR. If you have a technique, time to share it. I was able to script it by doing: yum install gtk2-devel libxml2-devel rpm-devel rpm-build nss nss-devel wget http://airdownload.adobe.com/air/lin/download/1.5/AdobeAIRInstaller.bin chmod 777 AdobeAIRInstaller.bin ./AdobeAIRInstaller.bin -silent -eulaAccepted___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Adobe Flash 10.1 + AIR 2.0 on the XO
On Apr 6, 2010, at 3:30 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Reuben K. Caron reu...@laptop.org wrote: ./AdobeAIRInstaller.bin -silent -eulaAccepted Excelent! Where the #$%^ did you find that that documented? http://help.adobe.com/en_US/AIR/1.5/air_runtime_redist/air_runtime_redist.pdf And for completeness after Air is installed you can silently install the Air app with: /usr/bin/Adobe\ AIR\ Application\ Installer -silent /path/to/*.air ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Devel Digest, Vol 53, Issue 32
On Jul 13, 2010, at 12:00 PM, devel-requ...@lists.laptop.org wrote: Message: 7 Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 10:22:27 -0400 From: John Watlington w...@laptop.org Subject: Re: xo-1 os300 -- switch off mesh? To: Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com Cc: OLPC Devel devel@lists.laptop.org Message-ID: bf830fd5-e690-4cd5-bd46-8bf368c18...@laptop.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jul 12, 2010, at 11:03 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote: Is there a way to tweak the os300 build so that it brings up the Libertas device just as eth0 (and doesn't enable the 802.11s features in the firmware)? was there a way to do that in 802? Good question -- no there wasn't. But the f11 builds for xo-1 only did 802.11b/g for a long time. I have this silly assumption that there's a kmod to blacklist or a kmod option to set/change to completely disable the 802.11s support. As far as I know, there is NO way to completely disable mesh support on XO-1 without holding the WLAN card in reset. Even if you don't support it at the OS level, the firmware will still behave badly if it receives a mesh broadcast packet. IIRC, we settled for trying to ensure that no mesh packets were ever broadcast, but if one did get sent, everyone would still help relay it. Um, I think this should send a mesh stop command to the firmware. echo 0 /sys/class/net/eth1/lbs_mesh From: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/5144 Reuben___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: USB2VGA adapters on XO-1.5 (and XO-1 with F11 images)
XO 1.5 Thanks, Reuben On Jul 16, 2010, at 12:46 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: On XO-1? Or XO-1.5? Maybe I typo'ed the rpm name... m On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Reuben K. Caron reu...@laptop.org wrote: Martin, Esteban found that xorg-x11-drv-sisvga is not available but xorg-x11-drv-sisusb is available. Using xorg-x11-drv-sisusb worked fine. Reuben Begin forwarded message: Message: 2 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 17:18:47 -0400 From: Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com Subject: Re: USB2VGA adapters on XO-1.5 (and XO-1 with F11 images) To: OLPC Devel devel@lists.laptop.org Cc: Sridhar Dhanapalan srid...@laptop.org.au, san...@laptop.org, Keith Wilbern kwilb...@gmail.com, rsm...@laptop.org Message-ID: aanlktik-ofl5gc9roq2j97wqlysmjljg94rtjoyn8...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: For monitors/projectors that can handle something close to 1200x900 -- 1152x864, you can use Xinerama instead. Here is an xorg.conf that does exactly that: The Xinerama approach turned out to be a winner in terms of performance and !bugginess. Turns out that with a bit of elbow grease we can make it work on 1024x768 which is what most projectors support. - yum install xorg-x11-drv-sisvga xorg-x11-server-Xephyr - Grab the files from http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/usbvga/xinerama/ olpc-configure goes to /etc/init.d/ , make it executable olpc-session goes to /usr/bin/ , make it executable xorg-xo1.5-dcon-extmon.conf goes to /etc/X11/ - Plug the USB2VGA device - Reboot Enjoy Limitations and notes: ?- Needs to be switched on at X startup time. olpc-configure checks at boot time if sisusbvga is loaded and changes the xorg.conf symlink if needed. My patch also fixes a longstanding old bug where the xorg.conf was 'set' in the first boot. ?- The desktop is a little bit smaller. On the XO, the desktop appears in the top-left corner -- on the external monitor / projector it fills up the screen perfectly. - Icons can appear slightly pixellated. I think this technique may expose a bug in Sugar and in some activities (ie: TurtleArt) that keep a copy of rendered SVGs as bitmaps. ?- Performance is acceptable. (We are saturating the USB 2 bandwidth with the amount of pixels and the bitdepth). - The Sugar cursor is back! - Video works! No Xv however, so it's not particularly fast. Patch to olpc-utils is attached -- I haven't tested the spec changes. cheers, m -- ?martin.langh...@gmail.com ?mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect ?- ask interesting questions ?- don't get distracted with shiny stuff? - working code first ?- http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff -- mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Redesigning: Library, Read, Get-Books, and Content bundles
There has been a lot of great progress with the Read and Get-Books (IA) activities. However, we have neglected to think about how we can better fit all of these pieces together. For instance, consider deployments that would like to install content bundles. They package these files into .xol packages and these packages get installed into the Library, which is contained on the left hand side of the Browse activity. Yes, you read that correctly...the BROWSE activity, an activity intended for online exploration is used to view offline content. Every deployment that I have shown this to has found it very unintuitive. Consider another example: You want to use Get-Books to get a new book. So you open Get-Books search for a book and download the book. But where did it go? I guess one could assume (correctly) that it went to the journal. So you close Get-Books. Go to the Journal. Find the book you downloaded. Open the book (in Read.) IMHO, a series of needless steps. So what if we created a Library Activity The activity would: -Open a book from within the activity -Highlight and annotate books -List all of the books you have downloaded -Allow you to search and download additional books from Feed Books, Internet Archive, the XS, etc.. -List the resources in /home/olpc/Library (so this can be removed from Browse) -Allow one to synchronously or asynchronously share a book to their Neighborhood so anyone can download and read it. I have filed a bug here if anyone would like to follow it: http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2110 I look forward to hearing your thoughts. Regards, Reuben ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Mesh Dreams = OLSR
Where Mesh != 802.11s but rather an adhoc, self healing, self organizing routable network. Imagine a world where Sugar on a Stick machines can communicate on the same network as an XO laptop. A world where mesh capabilities are hardware agnostic allowing anyone to bring up a mesh network by booting a live cd. Imagine a school full of XOs where some are connected to Adhoc Channel 1, some to Channel 6, and some to Channel 11. Now think of an XO that has two USB Wireless Adapters each connected respectively to one of those channels. This central XO also has a third USB ethernet dongle or a 3G wireless modem attached to it. Consider how this simple setup could provide Internet to everyone in the school. Consider the ability to actually create Mesh Portal Points, that allow one connection to provide an Internet connection to many hops down the line. Consider the benefits of using open source software versus our closed source firmware and partnering with communities like Freifunk whose network is ~ 800 node, guifi.net is almost 10k nodes in Barcelona, Athens Wireless is 5k nodes. These things are all almost immediately possible by using OLSRd software. Over the past few months, I have tested and built small networks around my neighborhood to consider the feasibility of such software. Now I realize there is a difference between small and large networks but I think it is something we should consider. As I have said, please *consider * all of these things with a fresh perspective and try to forget about the prior mesh battles. Let's think of solutions that will actually make this work. Some things to consider from Aaron Kaplan, a member of the OLSR community, cc'd here: How to scale networks? -The key is to have multiple channels, smart channel selection/ assignment, automatic txpower control and low interference between nodes! -In a sense, it is funny but true: the quieter the devices become, the better everybody can hear his mesh partner. -Summary: layer 2 is king for scalability , only then do you need to look at layer 3 optimizations (and with OLSR.org we already took care of that part I hope that we can come together to re-group and re-think how we OLPC and SugarLabs do connectivity and utilize the open opportunities available to create such solutions. Regards, Reuben ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Mesh Dreams = OLSR
On Aug 24, 2010, at 10:26 AM, Chris Ball wrote: The fact that a custom mesh algorithm would have to run on the CPU -- prohibiting any kind of idle-suspend -- makes it a non-starter for an XO deployment in my eyes. Did you have any thoughts on this? Hi Chris, Great point. Thank you for bringing this up. I have given this some thought; though I'm curious to know if this is your only objection to the suggestion? I find it interesting that what you consider a non- starter, I consider a feature. I have often considered it a bit presumptuous for us to deplete one child's precious power resources to maintain the mesh network for other children. We have created a model where in essence one household is funding access to the Internet in another household through power costs. My thoughts are: we don't do this. If the XO wants to go into idle-suspend let it. The connecting XO will have to find another path or lose access to the Internet. Either way it is a better solution then what we have now. If children group together and knowingly disable idle-suspend so they can maintain a mesh network for their neighbors then that is fine and a great example of building community but doing so as a mandatory implementation IMHO and with all due respect is questionable. Some things I'd like to point out. -8.2.1 has idle-suspend disabled by default and we are considering disabling by default idle-suspend for new XO - 1 builds. In these cases OLSR would be performing fine. -The switch in WLAN chip from XO 1.0 to 1.5 forces us to re-think how we do connectivity. -The thin-firmware being built for XO 1.5 has the same CPU-prohibiting idle-suspend limitation and *does not* include a user base and support community of thousands of users and active development. Yet it relies on one closed source firmware developed by one firm based on the same mesh technology developed 3 years ago. It also lacks my hardware agnostic points. -On the XO 1.5 builds where idle-suspend is working (CONGRATULATIONS TEAM), I'd recommend letting it idle-suspend. Yes, it will create route-flapping but in the school scenarios there should be enough paths to maintain connectivity and in the household environment any bit more of connectivity is better then none. It also leaves children and families the ability to knowingly disable-idle suspend and provide a resource to their neighbors. Thank you for your thoughts. Reuben ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Mesh Dreams = OLSR
On Aug 24, 2010, at 11:24 AM, Richard A. Smith wrote: On 08/24/2010 10:13 AM, Reuben K. Caron wrote: Consider the benefits of using open source software versus our closed source firmware and partnering with communities like Freifunk whose network is ~ 800 node, guifi.net is almost 10k nodes in Barcelona, Athens Wireless is 5k nodes. The largest of our mesh problems did not have to do with scalability on sheer number of nodes but rather scalability in density. Is there any information available on how these networks perform when there are 50 - 100 of them next all in the same room or in adjacent rooms? In those scenarios we run into RF density issues even when using APs. From what I understand, OLSR has a better mechanism for maintaining the mesh information. If you recall any change in mesh was previously broadcasted to all listeners. OLSR is configurable. For instance, information would only be broadcasted to two levels of one devices immediate neighbor not the whole mesh cloud. Another issue we had was maintaining mesh information in a limited memory space on the WLAN module; OLSR would now process that information. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Mesh Dreams = OLSR
On Aug 24, 2010, at 12:08 PM, Richard A. Smith wrote: I'm not talking about comparison to our previous mesh. Thanks keeping me on track. I'm talking about comparison to an AP. Overall we currently don't have much need for mesh as most of our scenarios are a dense cloud of children in the same space trying to network with each other. Fo deployments that have funding for APs there is not much need for mesh. I would approximate that roughly 66% of our user base are in deployments that do not have funding for APs. The network-without-infra feature of mesh is certainly useful in scenarios were you want to provide access over a wider area. Its a very important feature of mesh but its just not the feature we need on the ground ATM. Yet, this is a feature, we continue to sell and a feature often requested. However, if the same mesh smartness also gets density without using AP's then that's a big win. Agreed! Reuben ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Mesh Dreams = OLSR
On Aug 24, 2010, at 11:24 AM, Richard A. Smith wrote: The largest of our mesh problems did not have to do with scalability on sheer number of nodes but rather scalability in density. Is there any information available on how these networks perform when there are 50 - 100 of them next all in the same room or in adjacent rooms? Here is a link to a paper that actually tested in a physical 49 node lab with various configurations: http://dev.laptop.org/~reuben/Elsevier2008_OLSR_compare.pdf This differs from most other papers that I have read that use theoretical simulations. Reuben ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Mesh Dreams = OLSR
On Aug 24, 2010, at 1:29 PM, L. Aaron Kaplan wrote: Hm well, you at least got me thinking how we can make a small dense indoor mesh working without APs interesting challenge. Like think about replacing those smart APs by a distributed version. Interesting... a. Maybe a suitable challenge during a Wireless Mesh Battle(1). (1) http://battlemesh.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Mesh Dreams = OLSR
On Aug 24, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Richard A. Smith wrote: They are only able to achieve this with 30dB attenuators on the signal. We would want to see what one can do with stock cards without an attenuator. Can we adaptively get the signal down in driver/software? ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Devel Digest, Vol 54, Issue 49
Message: 3 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 00:24:38 -0300 From: Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Installing single file via signed OFW script To: James Cameron qu...@laptop.org, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org, Mitch Bradley w...@firmworks.com, OLPC Devel devel@lists.laptop.org Message-ID: aanlkti=ivgvlxx2jvucysucotpfp4wv=rcntvmvza...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 8:38 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: ok copy u:\ethni.pdf int:2,\versions\run\852\etc\test.pdf ext3 journal needs recovery Not writing to the ext2 filesystem because of unsupported extensions Flushbuf error ok Hi James! THANKS for trying this out. Yeah, clearly it will be hit and miss, and that can only lead to more pain Will be experimenting with not doing it by hand, and relying on OATS + olpc-update soon. Martin, Have you considered building something similar to the customization stick and signing it with their keys? Reuben ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [IAEP] Mesh Dreams = OLSR
Mike, Thank you for the information! To be clear, from what I understand from our discussions in the past you're topology looks like AP(802.11A + OLSRD) - AP (802.11B/G) - XO You have several AP(802.11A + OLSRD) acting as your backbone and they drop down to standard AP (802.11B/G) for connection to the XOs. Please let me know if this is correct. Out of curiosity: have you considered extending your OLSR network to the AP (802.11B/G)'s and installing the OLRSd binary on your XOs so the OLSR network can be extended beyond the school? Thanks, Reuben On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:36 PM, Mike Dawson wrote: Hi, Sorry for my late reply to this. Actually we use OLSR in Afghanistan to do our school networking like so: 1. An OLSR router (running openwrt Freifunk ; see freifunk.net ) connects to the other routers in the school - that forms the backbone on one network (e.g. channel 6) 2. A vanilla OpenWRT router actually connects to the XOs in the class. We reduce the transmit power on that and run it on a different channel (e.g. 1 or 11) The plus side is that you get a pure wireless system that does not need network cabling / does not have cables getting killed by the environment. The down side is you use more routers. I think financially the costs are pretty similar. Also you can now use 802.11n to get good speeds on the backbone. Seems to scale pretty nicely - we have 500 XOs in most schools. Note though by design we are not using the collaboration on the school server but rather just through the AP - teachers are not that enthused by the prospect of kids being able to chat with anyone anytime. This has practically made doing the deployment in the field a bit easier - though the firmware is not always perfect and not always working out of the box with all hardware options. Regards, -Mike On 25/08/2010, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Reuben K. Caron reu...@laptop.org wrote: Where Mesh != 802.11s but rather an adhoc, self healing, self organizing routable network. Cerebro gave a great working demo of what you describe. Don't know how they compare. I think it is perfectly feasible to achieve what you want... - to do it seamlessly and with polish will take a ton of work - very few users will actually benefit because the under a tree scenario covers IMHO most of our interesting use cases. People do talk about having a mesh that covers their whole town, and it's great dream but not achievable with our current constraints - town-wide meshes are made of stationary nodes - the mesh approaches we're discussing burn CPU / battery... - perennially power-starved users will focus on use, not on maintaining the communal mesh up Imagine a world where Sugar on a Stick machines can communicate on the same network as an XO laptop We have that now with ad-hoc and infra. Limited but we have it. A world where mesh capabilities are hardware agnostic allowing anyone to bring up a mesh network by booting a live cd. Mesh is pixie dust for most people. Your 'imagine' lines will make the imagine things that cannot be made to work _in the way people imagine_. Some meshy things can be made to work in a lab. Others just involve tradeoffs no sane user would take on... We've had bazillion threads about this, because mesh stokes passion. Problem is... even if you had the magical code right now working seamlessly... the cost/benefit ratio isn't good. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: OLPC OS Builder recipe for forcing OpenDNS resolver
Martin, Isn't a pre-requisite to also remove root? Alternatively have you considered rebuilding initrd signed with ARG keys to check and readd the config on every reboot if it has been removed? Regards, Reuben On Sep 28, 2010, at 4:06 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: Working recently in La Rioja (Argentina) we came up with a strategy to enforce some content filtering on the XOs even when connected via random local ISPs (IOWs, when borrowing a neighbour's connection, or at a wifi-friendly cafe). The results are here, in the form of an OLPC OS Builder recipe. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OS_Builder/Adding_OpenDNS_Configuration Comments welcome. Getting this working involved Sebastián Miranda, Guillermo Narvaez and Reuben. Thanks to all! m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Developer locking an unlocked XO
On Feb 15, 2011, at 12:39 AM, devel-requ...@lists.laptop.org wrote: On 15 February 2011 13:27, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: Hi, ? # You can reverse the disable-security command by entering ? enable-security at the 'ok' prompt. Security will then be ? permanently enabled until disabled again. Yes, but that'll use OLPC's keys (if they were installed in manufacturing). ?You might want to use your own keys, which would involve a different procedure. Is that the developer key mentioned at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Firmware_security#Deployment_Key_Manufacturing_Data_Tags ? We are currently trying to get a handle on this process so that we can get our keys applied in the factory. OLPC's keys will always be installed and valid unless the customer chooses to override. From what I understand, you're planning to only use augment keys so Tony's comments are still valid. Reuben ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] Dansguardian on XS
German,
You are at a point where you must define your own public DNS server.
Hosted at your own public IP address. On the following site we show
the technique. The configuration is not exactly the same but similar:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OS_Builder/Adding_OpenDNS_Configuration#Configure_your_public_DNS_server
Basically, DNS queries would be: XO-XS-PUBLIC FOUNDATION DNS SERVER-
OpenDNS
As your deployment grows this will also allow you to more easily scale
your XS installations as they can be preconfigured to point to your
managed DNS server, instead of trying to find the public IP address at
each site.
I hope this helps.
Regards,
Reuben
On Apr 4, 2011, at 9:43 AM, German Ruiz wrote:
En 3 escuelas acá e Nicaragua tienen conexión a internet por un
modem 3G (Huawei 3G E968 Wireless Gateway), cuando me conecto a
internet, y quiero registrar la IP pública en openDNS, siempre me
sale que la IP es 190.212.80.224 ó 190.212.80.225, de igual manera
cuando me conecto desde mi laptop con un modem ZTE MF626 siempre me
asigna una de estas 2 IP al momento de navegar, supongo que esto es
por el proveedor de Internet que es Claro que está utilizando una
proxy para estas conexiónes.
Para probar registre estas IP en openDNS y apliqué los forwarders
{208.67.222.222; 208.67.220.220;}; en el archivo /etc/named-
xs.conf.in, esperé unos 10 minutos y probé si estaba filtrando en
contenido en la escuela, lo cual no hacía, 5 minutos después, recibí
email de usuarios que aparentemente estaban siendo afectadas por el
filtro, (facebook, youtube, etc...). Por lo que descarte la opción
de openDNS para estas escuelas, e instalé squidguard a como hacen en
Paraguay.
Que está impidiendo que openDNS funcione en estas conexiones???
Saludos
El 4 de abril de 2011 04:57, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com
escribió:
Hola Germán,
cuentanos como es la instalacion del modem 3G -- porqué no funciona el
uso de OpenDNS?
un abrazo,
martin
2011/4/1 German Ruiz germa...@opensuse.org.ni:
Muchas Gracias Rodolfo
Lo he instalado en un XS acá en Nicaragua, por lo general nosotros
usamos
openDNS, pero en esta escuela se me hizo imposible, ya que ellos
cuentan con
un modem 3G.
Al parecer el filtro está funcionando...
Gracias
2011/4/1 Rodolfo D. Arce S. rodolfo.arc...@gmail.com
We used squidguard in the Paraguay deployment
http://wiki.paraguayeduca.org/index.php/Squidguard
Is in spanish, but the commands are selfexplanatory. Perhaps it can
help, i'll try and translate to english soon
Cheers.. R
2011/3/31, German Ruiz germa...@opensuse.org.ni:
Hi
Is there any documentation to install Dansguardian on XS 0.6???
Any wiki or something???
Thanks...
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Re: rpm installation via customization stick
On May 10, 2011, at 6:14 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On 05/05/2011 9:58 AM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: There's interest, but it's more complicated than you think. As I understand it, customization sticks can be signed and run in secure mode because they perform no side-effects outside of /home. However, an RPM can have a %post section which lists commands to be run *as root* during the installation. So, offering the ability to install RPMs via signed customization stick is equivalent to letting anyone run any series of commands as root. There may be ways to mitigate this risk, such as refusing to run any %post scripts (some of which are necessary for proper function of packages). Working out what the safe set of actions a hostile RPM can perform on a system is a research project, as far as I know. Can we make it so that it only installs signed RPMs? Would that help? I signed manifest which includes a list of files would probably be more feasible as you wouldn't have to alter the RPMs. Reuben ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC Engineering] [Techteam] New F14-arm build os40 - Almost in sync with x86!
On Aug 23, 2011, at 8:40 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Martin Langhoff mar...@laptop.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: SOPs covering the basics are always useful though, being dynamic is a cop out excuse IMO and SOPs help for when people get eaten by raptors. I can't find what you say documented anywhere ;-) Peter -- stop for a second and think with me. This isn't a standard anything: we are transitioning to a new arch, using Fedora as a base which has been somewhat unpredictable and rather messy. We don't plan to switch arches again soon. I'm referring to things like how to pick which activities are used by OOB, a new arch has nothing to do with that what so ever. I believe OOB is pulling activities and version information from here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/G1G1 Update the links to the latest version and on the next build you should get the respective activity version. Reuben ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC Engineering] [Techteam] New F14-arm build os40 - Almost in sync with x86!
On Aug 23, 2011, at 9:27 AM, Chris Ball wrote: Hi, On Tue, Aug 23 2011, Peter Robinson wrote: I believe OOB is pulling activities and version information from here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/G1G1 Update the links to the latest version and on the next build you should get the respective activity version. Thank you Reuben, that is what I was after. Are people happy for me to update those versions to later releases? You should modify the subpage for the release you're working on -- see e.g. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/G1G1/11.2 In that case, the .ini should be altered: [sugar_activity_group] url=http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/G1G1 http://dev.laptop.org/git/projects/olpc-os-builder/tree/examples/f14-arm.ini?h=f14-arm___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC Engineering] [Techteam] 11.3.1 build 11 released for XO-1.75
After a few minutes of installation and a few s/r cycles I lost mouse and kb in Gnome… On Nov 15, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: The cpu0 on fire build, where runin can read cpu temp invoking black OFW magic. Also contains assorted fixes to audio, power management, a better s/r, and more. Download from: http://build.laptop.org/11.3.1/os11/ Updated OFW to Q4C04 -- details at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q4c04 Bugs fixed: #10954 XO-1.75 runin CPU temperature support #11409 Headphone jack test not working in 11.3.0 on 1.75 #11177 XO-1.75 powerd does not see touchscreen as activity Progress on: #11395 Implement Linux Suspend/Resume on MMP2 #11397 DCON freeze not working under X #11406 and #11412 - kernel powerd wakeup events queue work Activities: translation updates on Terminal, TamTam*, Measure, ImageViewer and Chat. Kernel changelog: Andres Salomon (2): arm: mmp2: initial pm support mmp2: import some TLB flushing from marvell's kernel Daniel Drake (1): input: disable suspend/resume handlers for OLPC Jon Nettleton (2): [pxa168fb] Use designated refresh rate for mode Merge branch 'arm-3.0-wip' of ssh://dev.laptop.org/git/olpc-kernel into arm-3.0-wip Marcus Folkesson (1): serial: pxa: work around for errata #20 Paul Fox (8): log the uselessness of invoking en/disable_irq_wake() on MMP2 allow the dcon to remain on while sleeping generate a pm_wakeup when we receive an EC event generate a pm_wakeup when we have a lid/ebook interrupt generate a pm_wakeup when we get an RTC alarm interrupt add new OLS commands and events add callback support for OLS events create an OLS light/dark notification switch input device Saadia Baloch (2): lis3lv02d.c: Fix use of 16 bit accelerometer. Fixed audio jack detection and setting of clock. --- os10/xo1.75/os10.packages.txt 2011-11-10 10:58:22.0 -0500 +++ os11/xo1.75/os11.packages.txt 2011-11-15 16:36:17.0 -0500 -kernel-3.0.0_xo1.75-2009.0921.olpc.a0765cd.armv7l +kernel-3.0.0_xo1.75-2014.1639.olpc.184b135.armv7l -olpc-firmware-q4c02-1.unsigned.noarch -olpc-kbdshim-20-1.fc14.armv5tel +olpc-firmware-q4c04-1.unsigned.noarch +olpc-kbdshim-22-1.fc14.armv5tel -olpc-powerd-37-1.fc14.armv5tel -olpc-powerd-dbus-37-1.fc14.armv5tel -olpc-runin-tests-0.15.0-1.noarch +olpc-powerd-38-1.fc14.armv5tel +olpc-powerd-dbus-38-1.fc14.armv5tel +olpc-runin-tests-0.16.0-1.armv7l -xorg-x11-drv-dove-0.1.0-6.olpc.armv5tel +xorg-x11-drv-dove-0.1.0-7.olpc.armv5tel --- os10/xo1.75/os10.activities.txt 2011-11-10 10:58:22.0 -0500 +++ os11/xo1.75/os11.activities.txt 2011-11-15 16:36:17.0 -0500 -Chat-71 +Chat-71.1 -ImageViewer-18 +ImageViewer-18.1 -Measure-34 +Measure-34.1 -TamTamEdit-60 -TamTamJam-60 -TamTamMini-60 -TamTamSynthLab-60 -Terminal-35 +TamTamEdit-60.1 +TamTamJam-60.1 +TamTamMini-60.1 +TamTamSynthLab-60.1 +Terminal-35.1 cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Techteam mailing list techt...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/techteam ___ Engineering mailing list engineer...@laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/engineering ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] Problemas con servidor xs
Fernando, Carlos,
Hola Amigos.
First, we'll troubleshoot this and then I'll tell you why this setup is
problematic.
2wire: 192.168.1.254
XS: 192.168.1.253
XOs: 192.168.1.0 -- .252
On the XS:
-Did you save the static ip changes to the file:
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0-local?
-What is the output of the command ifconfig -- Does it show that the static IP
address configured correctly?
-What is the output of the command ping schoolserver
-What is the output of the command ping 192.168.1.254
-What is the output of the command dig google.com
-What is the output of the command ping google.com
On the XO:
-Connect to the Wireless.
-What is the output of the command ping 192.168.1.254
-What is the output of the command ping 192.168.1.253
-What is the output of the command dig google.com
-What is the output of the command ping google.com
-What is the output of the command ifconfig -- Note the IP address of the XO
On the XS:
-What is the output of the command ping IP_ADDRESS_OF_XO_ABOVE
Your current setup has limitations:
1.Only 252 clients will be able to connect
2.XO's cannot connect, ping, or resolve schoolserver, DNS entry because they
get IP configuration from DHCP of 2wire. 2Wire does not know how to resolve the
hostname schoolserver.
The #2 issue can be resolved by either:
-If possible you maybe able to assign the DNS server in 2Wire configuration to
point to 192.168.1.253 for DNS resolution, *or*
-Disable DHCP on 2Wire, Enable DHCP on XS, Add manual default routes from XS
- 2Wire
Let us know the output of the commands and also some screenshots of the
available configuration of the 2Wire configuration screens because I cannot
find any manuals available online for this model.
Regards,
Reuben
On Mar 27, 2012, at 1:04 AM, Fernando Paz wrote:
Hola John, gracias por responder.
2 . Si 802.11. Logro hacer ping del servidor a otras computadoras y ping así
mismo. No logro hacer ping al servidor desde otras computadoras no logran
pasar por el router.
3. Tengo entendido que si se puede lograr hacer de esta manera con un router,
conectándose a la red del router y colocando en el navegador el dominio del
servidor schoolserver.escuelax
Por eso mi pregunta si alguien ya había utilizado este router 2wire 4011G...
o en este caso si no se puede el porque... o si hay una lista de router que
no son compatibles con el servidor XS y si el 2wire pertenece a esta lista ..
El 26 de marzo de 2012 18:59, John Watlington w...@laptop.org escribió:
On Mar 26, 2012, at 8:05 PM, German Ruiz wrote:
Hola Fernando
Tengo unas dudas:
2. Cuando quieres registrar una XO, esta cómo se conecta al XS, si
dices que este no tiene AP en tu escenario.
Tiene 802.11 el modem/router ? Si es verdad, cual es la dirección IP
de la computadora con que logras al servidor ?
Puedes ping al servidor ?
3. Cuando corres el comando: chkconfig dhcpd off
Deshabilitas el servicio dhcp para las XO, que estas lo necesitan para
conectarse al XS y registrarse.
Actualmente, todavia pueden registrarse en este caso, pero necesitan
que el nombre DNS schoolserver apunte al servidor.
4. Adicionalmente ya está disponible la versión 0.7[0] del XS que está
basada en Centos 6 con el kernel de Fedora 15.
[0] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Installing_Software_0.7
Saludos
--
German R S
2012/3/26 Fernando Paz fip...@gmail.com
Hola lista.
Tengo problemas con hacer funcionar el servidor XS.
El escenario actual es sin access points y es así:
INTERNET - Modem/Router -- Servidor XS
Internet por medio de DSL
Modem/Router 2wire modelo: 4011G
Servidor XS versión: 0.6
Configuración:
Modem/Router = DHCP activado, direcciónes = 192.168.1.1 - 192.168.1.252
Servidor = DHCP desactivado usando el comando chkconfig dhcpd off,
dirección estática = 192.168.1.253
Configuracion de eth0 en servidor:
To set a static address, copy or rename this file to
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0-local
and set the values below appropriately
IPADDR=192.168.1.253
IPV6ADDR=2001:4830:2446:ff00::2/64
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
#NETWORK=18.85.46.0
#BROADCAST=18.85.46.255
GATEWAY=192.168.1.254
No logro entrar al servidor desde otra computadora ni registrar XO.
Instale un escritorio grafico dentro del servidor para ver si en localhost
y
si funciona. El problema son las configuracion en el modem / router 2wire
que no deja acceder al servidor desde otras maquinas...
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Announcing OLPC OS 11.3.1 for XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75
Hi, We're pleased to announce the release of OLPC OS 11.3.1 for XO-1, XO-1.5 and as a formal release for XO-1.75. Details of new features, known issues, and how to download/install/upgrade can all be found in the release notes: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/11.3.1 Many thanks to all contributors, testers, upstreams, and those who have provided feedback of any kind. For those who were following the release candidate process in the last few weeks: candidate build 885 is released as final with no changes. Thanks and enjoy! OLPC Development Team ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: qemu wine experiments on ARM
On Oct 5, 2012, at 12:59 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 12:22 AM, Martin Langhoff mar...@laptop.org wrote: Qemu's user-mode is a lot more practical. We would need a minimal fedora x86 chroot that has wine, and use qemu over that. After a bit of googling, I found PRoot, which seems to provide the right glue to make qemu's user mode actually usable. http://cedric-vincent.github.com/PRoot/ http://adt.cs.upb.de/quf/quf11/quf2011_13.pdf proot only offers x86 rpms, so a rebuild for armv7hl/f17 at http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/proot/ - untested For a truly minimal rootfs, mock is likely to be more useful than livecd-tools. On x86 fedora... mock -r fedora-17-i386 --init mock -r fedora-17-i386 --install wine then tar up /var/lib/mock/fedora-17-i386/root, untar on your XO. Running on the ARM platform, I get: [reuben@koji3 ~]$ proot -Q wine/qemu-i386 mock/ proot info: started sh-4.2$ ls sh: fork: Invalid argument sh-4.2$ Attempting to run any command results in sh: fork: Invalid argument Reuben ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] testing XS-RSYNC
Martin Langhoff wrote: On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Reuben K. Caron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great, thanks. I was steered to the correct files and got it to work from both the USB and command line. The files I used can be found at: Cool. Are you doing this on xs-0.5? If you update to the newest rpms from the olpcxs-testing repo you'll get a nice chime indicating that it started, and another nice chime meaning I'm done. I'm using xs-0.4. I'll look forward to that feature in .5 as the chime will be much nicer then monitoring the progress of tmp-xo-builds-pub/builds. Out of curiosity why do we require the tree files which come from: http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/xo-1/streams/8.2/build767/devel_jffs2/ I'm just following what Scott did for his own rsync updater server. I didn't get into the details of why -- as a matter of expediency, I did my bit of cargo-cult programming there :-) In other words: monkey-see, martin-do ah ha! gotcha, thanks. ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XS 0.5 Second Attempt at eth1
I too am having problems with DHCP (and ejabberd) on XS 0.5. Let me detail my steps Appended upgradeany- ran default install Restarted NICs were swapped. Ran xs-swapnics Check var/log/messages found (snipet): Dec 4 09:36:58 schoolserver1 dhcpd: Listening on LPF/lanbond0/00:00:00:00:00:00/172.18.96.0/19 Dec 4 09:36:58 schoolserver1 dhcpd: Sending on LPF/lanbond0/00:00:00:00:00:00/172.18.96.0/19 Dec 4 09:06:24 schoolserver1 dhcpd: No subnet declaration for lanbond0 (172.18.96.1). Dec 4 09:06:24 schoolserver1 dhcpd: ** Ignoring requests on lanbond0. If this is not what Dec 4 09:06:24 schoolserver1 dhcpd:you want, please write a subnet declaration Dec 4 09:06:24 schoolserver1 dhcpd:in your dhcpd.conf file for the network segment Dec 4 09:06:24 schoolserver1 dhcpd:to which interface lanbond0 is attached. ** Reviewed dhcpd-xs.conf file: It did not have a declaration for 172.18.96.* I reviewed /etc/sysconfig/olpc-scripts/dhcpd.conf.1 - It did not match dhcpd-xs.conf I ran ./network-config 1 I ran ./domain-config xs4.org (i know it isn't xs4 but I'm maintaining domain for posterity) Rebooted. dhcpd-xs.conf now has the declaration for 172.18.96 DHCP is started but still does not hand out an IP. Below are ethtool outputs: [EMAIL PROTECTED] log]# ethtool eth1 Settings for eth1: Supported ports: [ TP ] Supported link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full 1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full Supports auto-negotiation: Yes Advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full 1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes Speed: 100Mb/s Duplex: Full Port: Twisted Pair PHYAD: 1 Transceiver: internal Auto-negotiation: on Supports Wake-on: g Wake-on: d Current message level: 0x00ff (255) Link detected: yes [EMAIL PROTECTED] log]# ethtool eth0 Settings for eth0: Supported ports: [ TP MII ] Supported link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full Supports auto-negotiation: Yes Advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes Speed: 100Mb/s Duplex: Full Port: MII PHYAD: 1 Transceiver: internal Auto-negotiation: on Supports Wake-on: pumbg Wake-on: d Current message level: 0x0001 (1) Link detected: yes Martin Langhoff wrote: 2008/12/3 Anna [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Has anyone gotten eth1 on XS 0.5 working? I have, at least on 4 different bits of hw, but I worked on it too much to be a good tester of it. Others have installed successfully. One thing that 0.5 has is that it almost always picks the ordering of the NICs _in reverse_ of what 0.4 did. So perhaps your NIC identities are reversed? You can test changing the ethernet cables around or use xs-swapnics (and then reboot). Other than that, I'm a bit lost. Can you get any output from calling ethtool eth1 ? What's the physical hw? It's also possible (though unlikely) that F9 has bad drivers for your specific hw... cheers, m ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XS 0.5 Second Attempt at eth1
Thanks for clarification. Still no go: Dec 4 12:12:24 schoolserver1 kernel: eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0xC1E1 Dec 4 12:12:24 schoolserver1 kernel: eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0xC1E1 Dec 4 12:12:24 schoolserver1 kernel: Ethernet Channel Bonding Driver: v3.3.0 (June 10, 2008) Dec 4 12:12:24 schoolserver1 kernel: bonding: ARP monitoring set to 1000 ms, validate none, with 1 target(s): 172.18.0.1 Dec 4 12:12:24 schoolserver1 kernel: bonding: lanbond0 is being created... Dec 4 12:12:24 schoolserver1 kernel: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): lanbond0: link is not ready Dec 4 12:12:24 schoolserver1 kernel: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready Dec 4 12:12:24 schoolserver1 kernel: tg3: eth1: Link is up at 100 Mbps, full duplex. Dec 4 12:12:24 schoolserver1 kernel: tg3: eth1: Flow control is on for TX and on for RX. Dec 4 12:12:24 schoolserver1 kernel: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth1: link becomes ready Dec 4 12:12:24 schoolserver1 kernel: bonding: mshbond0 is being created... Dec 4 12:12:24 schoolserver1 kernel: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): mshbond0: link is not ready Dec 4 12:12:24 schoolserver1 kernel: bonding: mshbond1 is being created... Dec 4 12:12:24 schoolserver1 kernel: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): mshbond1: link is not ready Dec 4 12:12:24 schoolserver1 kernel: bonding: mshbond2 is being created... Dec 4 12:12:24 schoolserver1 kernel: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): mshbond2: link is not ready ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XS 0.5.1-dev03 with ejabberd goodness, kernel bling, Access Point workingness... looking for xmas testers
David, Thank you for the information. Can you attempt to perform a clean install again with edits in line below. David Leeming wrote: Hi Reuben - Installed 0.5 Nov 19th download on Toshiba notebook computer with black box prototype AA (USB) - Fresh install (overwriting not upgrading the previously fully working 0.4 installation - Set location Guadalcanal, use local time (I did not change this in my tests; I doubt this has any effect but want to note I left this at the default setting) - No optional application selected - Install.. restart - /etc/sysconfig/olpc-scripts/domain_config oceania.org After running domain_config Then edit the file /etc/sysconfig/network and set hostname to schoolserver.oceania.org (nano /etc/sysconfig/network) Then restart (shutdown -r now) - chkconfig --level 345 ejabberd on - service ejabberd start Wait a few minutes for ejabberd to completely startup. You can check it's status by running: service ejabberd status - ejabberdctl register admin schoolserver.oceania.org admin With a fresh install of 0.5.1 dev 3 you don't need the following from here -- - restart - yum --enablerepo=olpcxs-testing update - restart to here -- - One one of 4 XOs, log onto ejabberd web admin and set up shared roster Online - restart - start all four XOs and register, then restart On the XOs are registering from a fresh OS install, 8.2? If the XOs have been previously registered; you will need to clean out their registration by removing the server fields in /home/olpc/.sugar/default/config. After removing these fields; restart the XOs Then connect the XOs to the appropriate SSID or AA. Then register the XO. Then restart the XO. I hope this helps. Please let us know. At this stage I cannot see any other XO, and still had to do the work around of removing all four users from the ejabberd webadmin and restarting everything before I could see them in the neighbourhood views. (as advised by Martin): (Martin wrote...) To avoid re-installing the XS to re-test the just registered scenario you can - go with a webbrowser to the ejabberd admin panel, go into the 'schoolserver' vhost listed there and delete all the users registered - restart ejabberd - restart the laptops This happens each time a laptop is restarted. However, once all going, it is fine: - All four show up in the eJabberd control panel as users - All have the same correct results for olpc-netstatus - I tried sharing Memorize - all four OK - Video chat is OK between any two - Server access and Internet browsing all OK (updated them each online) Log attached David Leeming Technical Advisor, People First Network, Honiara, Solomon Islands Alternative email address: leemingda...@yahoo.com.au From: Reuben Caron [mailto:caron.reu...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Reuben K. Caron Sent: Tuesday, 30 December 2008 12:15 p.m. To: David Leeming Cc: XS Devel; Martin Langhoff Subject: Re: [Server-devel] XS 0.5.1-dev03 with ejabberd goodness, kernel bling, Access Point workingness... looking for xmas testers Hmm.. Are you upgrading or doing this from fresh install? If upgrade from what previous version? If from fresh install can you give more detail to the exact steps you are performing? (pardon me if you provided this information earlier; I quickly reviewed the archive and could not find anything) Reuben Martin Langhoff wrote: On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 10:04 PM, David Leeming mailto:leem...@pipolfastaem.gov.sb leem...@pipolfastaem.gov.sb wrote: It works but you have to run through the procedure below each time you start the XOs up with the server. Hmmm, well, that's definitely not normal procedure! - I have to log onto ejabberd web admin with all XOs turned off and delete all users (time consuming for a class of 40) and then start them up. Then it will work fine and the neighbourhood screens populate, until you want to start again. Next time you start everything up, you will not see the other XOs, until the procedure is repeated. I suspect there's something else happening there... on the server there should be a log for ejabberd, /var/log/ejabberd.log I think. Can you post it to the list or to me? That should give us something to chew on... cheers, m -- Reuben K. Caron Country Support Engineer One Laptop per Child Mobile: +1-617-230-3893 reu...@laptop.org Deployments Support http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployments_Support ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XO
Jerry Vonau wrote: On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 15:02 -0500, Reuben K. Caron wrote: Jerry, This should jump start you into the right direction: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/No-Fail_Upgrade Good Luck, Reuben Thanks, I figured as much. Jerry Vonau wrote: Hi All: Ok, I just received my XOs, being an absolute newbie with the XO, if all I see upon booting is a gray screen and the XO logo, and I don't get asked for a name as shown at: http://www.laptop.org/8.2.0/manual/XO_Starting.html I need to load an os image on this puppy, correct? If I hold down the game keys I see school-mesh-0 found that good right? ;-) Just need to know where I'm at before I start to play With a the game keys depressed I see that the XO is looking for http://172.18.0.1/fs.zip, I assume that is the path for the staging/upgrade images to be downloaded and installed from? If so, I should be able to dump the image (fs.zip and version.img) that I want to load into /docroot of the schoolsever and the XO should be updated automatically? Jerry If you setup an AP with SSID: OLPCOFW connected to a computer with IP 172.18.0.1 with fs.zip and image file at the root of the webserver, yes it will work; albeit slowly.. ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] interest in new proxy
Vivek, This sounds very interesting. Could you provide us with more information? Regards, Reuben Vivek Pai wrote: Hi, My name is Vivek Pai and I'm new to the list. Forgive me if I'm missing anything relating to this query. A long time ago, I visited OLPC to discuss HTTP proxy needs for the schools, and our research group at Princeton had a project that looked like it might be a good fit. In particular, it's a Web proxy that scales to large storage sizes without requiring large memory consumption. It can, for example, use a 1TB USB drive as a store, while requiring only a XO-class laptop to drive it. Is there interest in something like this for the XS server? We're also working on a WAN accelerator that uses this proxy, providing transparent compression of content, even for dynamic Web sites. The original ticket for this was https://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6#comment:8 -Vivek ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] @a...@...?
Since @online@ is broken in 0.5.1. How should the directions be changed at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Installing_Software: Type Online and click Add New. Click on Online and enter Online for Name, @online@ for Members, and Online for Displayed Groups. Click Submit. I'm just wondering how fussy ejabberd is here. Can we just replace the @online@ with @all@ or should we create an All Group, with All for Name and All for Displayed Groups? ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] @a...@...?
ps_mem.py, is I believe what Martin recommended to me. Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/3/4 Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com: One little change -- if you have 85 XOs, I would want to see what the memory usage of ejabberd is. How do you suggest that we measure this? Thanks, Daniel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Serving 400+ students w/ a single central XS - ejabberd nightmare?
Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/3/9 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org: We will have roughly 8+ AP's. We have found that off-the-shelf AP's can handle around 60-70 users. But that doesn't still doesn't solve the problem of the XO's getting bogged down by tons of ejabberd chatter. DSD: do you have any ideas about this? Have only had a chance to test numbers on Linksys WRT54Gsomething routers, which stop accepting new connections after 33 users. yay. Have you tried loading a different firmware on these, dd-wrt? ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Fwd: Hoping for assistance with XS 0.5 configuration difficulties (ejabberd)
Daniel Bennett wrote:
I just sent this to Reuben. I have done some digging through the log
file and haven't seen anything useful. Do I perhaps need to set the
ejabberd.cfg file to 5:debug instead of 4:Verbose? i remember seeing
something about that inside it.
Unfortunately, we we haven't set up a GUI, web browser, or emailing
capabilities of any kind on the server itself so emailing the log file
will be a roadblock for me. I haven't worked in linux for about 5
years now until trying to tackle this project. I'm relearning how to
do basic things like ls, pipe to less, and use vi for simple text
edits. Setting that stuff up is likely to take a lng time. Is
there anything specific I can do offline to find what you're hoping
for inside. In writing you this email I just recalled the existence
of grep. is there something I could grep for in the log file and give
you some feedback on it?
On the subject of following instructions, there have been two of us
working on the server, sometimes one at a time so I can't
guarantee that we've followed them to a T, but we both believe that we
have. We've gone so far as to rerun the initial scripts, recheck
hostname, reset the acl lines in ejabberd.cfg repeatedly, connect to
the jabber server with 2 different jabber clients (which has been
successful, we've chatted back and forth using our server.
We just can't access the admin inteface at
http://192.168.0.162:5280/admin, we keep getting 401 unauthorized),
read every wiki page that sounded remotely relevant, etc.
Where is this IP coming from? How are you changing this?
Martin, also note (below) they have one nic.. Can you remind us what the
default behavior is for one nic?
And we've been following hunches at each step so we have pulled some
of the instructions out of related pages from the wiki.
I've been careful to comment out all of the original lines in the
ejabberd.cfg file and mark all of my changes for easy resetting of
each segment to it's original state. Which I've since done. So
theoretically, the file should be in it's original state except for
the {acl, admin {... line that we added to give admin privs to our
sample user.
But of course, I could have made missed something. However, the
server is still working fine when we connect via 3rd party clients
(pidgin pis), so I don't think I've done anything critical...
Let me know if I should grep anything out of the log file for you.
Thanks for the help!
-Dan
-- Forwarded message --
From: *Daniel Bennett* dant...@gmail.com mailto:dant...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Server-devel] Hoping for assistance with XS 0.5
configuration difficulties (ejabberd)
To: Reuben K. Caron reu...@laptop.org mailto:reu...@laptop.org
Cc: Michael Ishaku michaelish...@gmail.com
mailto:michaelish...@gmail.com
Reuben,
Thank you for the quick reply and the hints. I've cc'd Michael Ishaku
on this thread. He's and I have been working on this issue together
and he is going to be administering the server once I head back to the
states.
I've replied to your statements inline below to the best of my
ability. Please take a look.
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Reuben K. Caron
reu...@laptop.org mailto:reu...@laptop.org wrote:
Daniel,
I am sorry to hear about all your difficulties. I'd like to work
with you to get this to work.
If you cannot enter the ejabberd web interface to setup the online
group then XOs will not collaborate.
I'd like to know about your hardware, 2 nics or 1?
We have one LAN card for ethernet, but have also installed a wireless
networking card for communication with Access Points. That should
work, right? I'm really no IT professional... :)
I'm sure you have read through this but please be sure to follow
this line by line:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Installing_Software#Initial_Configuration
One particular point I'd like to make in the instructions is this:
---Set the hostname of the machine like this (until we fix bug
8983) by editing /etc/sysconfig/network to set
HOSTNAME=schoolserver.example.org http://schoolserver.example.org
contents of /etc/sysconfig/network:
NETWORKING=yes
HOSTNAME=schoolserver.lccnyola.org http://schoolserver.lccnyola.org
~
~
/etc/sysconfig/network 2L, 50C
--and restarting.
We had this problem yesterday when we left, and when i arrived this
morning I had to turn the server back on (it had powered off overnight
due to the generator being shut down and the UPS running out of
juice). I'm fairly certain that we tried rebooting a couple of times
during the day yesterday as well. I'm certain that we used the
command shell to: service ejabberd restart many many times both
days. This would cover the restarting, right?
It is important to restart before moving on; otherwise, the
ejabberd db will be intialized using
Re: [Server-devel] Filtering and authentication
Martin Langhoff wrote: On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 11:15 PM, david da...@leeming-consulting.com wrote: maybe the connection with the public Internet can be pointed to an online proxy service so the filtering is done online That is my strong recommendation. There is little benefit in having the filtering happening locally, and lots of downsides. Search the list archive for 'dansguardian' or 'squidgard' for earlier discussions on this topic. A free and simple solution, while not bullet proof (no content filter is that I am aware), is Open DNS. They are even CIPA compliant in the US: http://www.opendns.com/solutions/k12/ ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Filtering and authentication
Anna wrote: On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Reuben K. Caron reu...@laptop.org wrote: As far as limiting the internet connection to authorized XOs, that's an issue we're probably going to run into at some point once we broaden the XS deployment. So far at the pilot school, the staff members connect to the internet with their personal laptops and iPhones, but I haven't really heard any complaints of abuse yet. If your deployment is relatively small, it should be easy enough to add the hardware addresses of the trusted XOs to dhcpd.conf and disallow unknown machines (or play pranks on them as suggested at http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.html). Anna Schoolfield Birmingham While not all encompassing you could also attempt to drop dhcp requests that do not come from 00:17:c4 using something similar to: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4191756 Reuben ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Filtering and authentication
John Watlington wrote: On Apr 27, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Reuben K. Caron wrote: Anna wrote: On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Reuben K. Caron reu...@laptop.org wrote: As far as limiting the internet connection to authorized XOs, that's an issue we're probably going to run into at some point once we broaden the XS deployment. So far at the pilot school, the staff members connect to the internet with their personal laptops and iPhones, but I haven't really heard any complaints of abuse yet. If your deployment is relatively small, it should be easy enough to add the hardware addresses of the trusted XOs to dhcpd.conf and disallow unknown machines (or play pranks on them as suggested at http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.html). Anna Schoolfield Birmingham While not all encompassing you could also attempt to drop dhcp requests that do not come from 00:17:c4 using something similar to: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4191756 Please do not take this approach. It sounds quick, easy, and foolproof, but will lead to problems in the future.(I almost suggested it, but decided the cons outweighted the pros.) I agree it is fraught with peril; however, do we have a better solution until: Tie internet access to registration, is implemented: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff/XS_0.6_plan#Not_in_the_plan For example, what if you get an XO-1.5 in the mix ? I would assume XO 1.5 will have a similar unique identifier that could be added to the list. While more complex to implement, perhaps something like NetReg would be viable: http://netreg.sourceforge.net/ Regards, Reuben ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Filtering and authentication
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 16:34 -0400, Reuben K. Caron wrote: All of the documentation is contained within their download. It appears like a nice lightweight solution. It is basically a captive portal that requires authentication before allowing access to the internet. It takes a different approach then netreg using dynamically created iptables generated after a user logs in. Whereas netreg uses dhcp to assign one set of ip addresses to an authenticated group of users and one set of ip addresses to an unauthenticated set of users. It appears in their current implementation nocat would require an authentication every time a user connects to the system and netreg would require a single authentication event and subsequently would read the mac address from the dhcpd.conf file and grant an authenticated ip address. Regards, Reuben Thanks Reuben, The part that I like is the hook to query a DB, with a bit of work the need to login could be removed, and just look up the group membership that the mac address has in the db. Just a thought, Jerry Keep the thoughts coming! :-) Additionally, this solution would be more secure as it does a dance with iptables versus the netreg way where a user could simply assign themselves an ip in from the authenticated group and gain access to the internet. Both solutions have their merit..first one to program it into XS gets their pick.. Reuben ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] Browse-101 for 0.82 and XS-0.6 interop
Daniel, Thanks for the clarification and the bug fix. Should that bug be closed? Reuben Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/5/21 Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com: Simon (aka erikos) has just uploaded Browse-101.xo to http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addons/versions/4024#version-101 This is the currently recommended Browse for XOs running 8.2.x wanting to interoperate with the upcoming XS 0.6 . This version was previously available but hard to find -- Daniel Drake posted a (probably identical) version recently, but it was missing from the SL's download facility. Now it's there, easy to find, recommended. Thanks! Someone posted my version here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/G1G1/8.2 It is not exactly the same, it includes a fix for http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8857 too. Daniel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel -- Reuben K. Caron Country Support Engineer One Laptop per Child Mobile: +1-617-230-3893 reu...@laptop.org Deployments Support http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployments_Support ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XS 0.6 preview
Today I performed a fresh install. yum update -y --enablerepo=olpcxs-testing reboot /etc/sysconfig/olpc-scripts/domain_config olpc.test reboot Observations: -hostname not changed -the login banner still shows 0.5.2 -registered two XOs: --Both can see each other in Neighborhood. --Both are assigned course creator privileges in moodle. Thanks, Reuben ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Server configuration
Neo, Hi. I'm wondering why you need the Static IP. Does the XS have one or two network cards? Will the XS act as a gateway to the Internet? Thanks, Reuben Grape Projects IT wrote: Hi Martin, I have never setup a static address before and therefore have never had this issue before. Below is the step-by-step configuration that I followed and I am having a problem with the DNS as the XO's do not connect to the Internet I downloaded the XS 0.5.2 image and followed the instructions http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Installing_Software. 1.I initially ran the script /etc/sysconfig/olpc-scripts/domainconfig katane.org with katane.org being the hostname 2.I also changed the HOSTNAME=localhost.localdomain to HOSTNAME=schoolserver.katane.org Our internet has a static IP address therefore I copied /usr/share/doc/xs-config-*/ifcfg-eth0-local.example to /etc/sysconfig/olpc-scripts/ifcfg-eth0-local and edited the file with the following: IPADDR=10.50.211.15 IPV6ADDR=no NETMASK=255.255.255.0 NETWORK=10.50.211.0 BROADCAST=10.50.211.255 GATEWAY=10.50.211.5 I also edited the /etc/resolv.conf to resolve the DNS nameserver as follows: search katane.org nameservers 10.50.211.5 3. Restarted the machine 4. I then started the ejabberd service at runlevels 345 5. Restarted the machine shutdown -r now 6. After reboot I pinged www.google.com and I got reply packets which meant that I had connection to the internet 7. now the problem is that when I check the ejabberd status ejabberdctl status I get an error RPC failed on the node ejabb...@schoolserver: nodedown so I went back to my /etc/resolv.conf file and edited the nameserver back to 172.18.0.1 and restarted ejabberd and this executed with no errors. But now the server does not resolve the DNS addresses cause when I ping www.google.com I get the error unknown host www.google.com 8.Another thing is that the XO does not connect to the internet under all scenarios but it connects to the schoolserver as I get to the who are you? page Now what do I need to do to make this work as I am using Active Antenna to connect the XO's to the Server Regards Neo Masilo ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel -- Reuben K. Caron Country Support Engineer One Laptop per Child Mobile: +1-617-230-3893 reu...@laptop.org Deployments Support http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployments_Support ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XS Moodle admin login
I have experienced this with every 0.6d2 install. The passchange.php method mentioned in this link did NOT work: http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=18103 On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 5:04 PM, tkk...@nurturingasia.com wrote: I wasn't sure initially if I type in wrongly, etc. After have the same problem with two different XS I started to query that my memory and eyesight should be OK grin I am a non technical person - could it be changes in the authenticity method? I presume it should be manual for admin - anyway of checking if this is the default setting for admin? Cheers -Original Message- From: Martin Langhoff [mailto:martin.langh...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 09:26 PM To: tkk...@nurturingasia.com Cc: 'XS Devel' Subject: Re: XS Moodle admin login On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 3:22 PM, tkk...@nurturingasia.com wrote: I had no problems before with the admin and password (from /etc/moodle/passwd) combination to get admin access - so that I could install language pack, etc However I notice recently with new test few XS machines I am uable to login as admin. I get the invalid login, please try again prompt. Has something change? It shouldn't have changed, but Reuben mentioned a similar problem. I have not seen it, so I am interested in help debugging it. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Upgrade to 0.6
Anyone have any luck fixing this? Regards, Reuben On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Reuben K. Caron reu...@laptop.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Reuben K. Caronreu...@laptop.org wrote: Glad to hear you found the root cause. If we can come up with one or two simple commands for the OLPCorps teams to type at the command line to fix this and then enable squid; I'm sure they will be glad to do so. It had all been a theoretical exercise. Today, trying to figure out what the correct fix is to put it in an rpm I just cannot repro the problem. The reason it 'Just Works' is that Apache is actually also listening on localhost. So Squid will gladly connecto localhost and issue an HTTP/1.1 request saying 'host'. Here is how I test that manually -- and apache replies nicely: # telnet 127.0.0.1 80 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to 127.0.0.1. Escape character is '^]'. GET / HTTP/1.1 Host: schoolserver.test.xs.laptop.org HTTP/1.1 302 Found Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:59:45 GMT Server: Apache/2.2.9 (Fedora) Location: http://schoolserver.test.xs.laptop.org/moodle Content-Lengthhttp://schoolserver.test.xs.laptop.org/moodle%0AContent-Length: 325 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN ... HTML output elided. Now, there is a number of changes (some of them trivial in appearence) in the apache configuration that could break the behaviour... have the local teams installed any extra software or added/changed configuration of Apache? None. The installation was done as follows: Install from USB XS0.6d2. Install using all defaults. /etc/sysconfig/olpc-scripts/domain_config olpc.corp /etc/sysconfig/olpc-scripts/TURN_SQUID_ON reboot The hardware had two nics, one on the motherboard the second a USB dongle. Motherboard NIC, WAN, was and is not connected to internet. USB Dongle, LAN, was connected, and gave DHCP addresses over wireless to APs attached to that port. Regards, Reuben ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Graphci card
Henry, You should be able to complete the installation using a text based install. At the boot screen select the boot option press tab and add 'text' at the end of the line to request the text-based installer. Regards, Reuben Henry Vélez Molina wrote: Hello we have an incompatibility betwen the graphic card and the installer of the XS server. For this reason we need to get another GPU that works with anaconda and we want to know which GPU can we buy. Thanks. -- Henry Vélez Molina Administrador de red OLPC Fundación MArina Orth Tel :341 23 59 Móvil: 312 769 0169 www.fundacionmarinaorth.org ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] the first user is admin moodle policy
Joshua N Pritikin wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 03:25:35PM +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Joshua N Pritikinjpriti...@pobox.com wrote: Can I create regular logins just to get started on exploring moodle? - If you want to get 'admin' on the patched Moodle on XS, see /etc/moodle/adminpw -- login with admin as username, and that password. But _our actual deployed XSs should not use this_, anything we want real life users to do has to be doable with coursecreators and standard user accts. That doesn't work for me. Invalid login Pass this first and then try to login (you may need to reboot after:) sudo -u apache php /var/www/moodle/web/local/scripts/adminuser-enable.php Is there anything else I can do to debug the autologin stuff? Can I recreate the cookie on the XO laptop? ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] xs-dev.laptop.org Down?
XS-Dev appears to have lost power or been abruptly shutdown. I found the box not powered on and then after powering on the server took over an hour to check the filesystem. Everything appears to be running fine now. Reuben On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Ed McNierney e...@laptop.org wrote: I can't reach xs-dev but can contact other machines in that room, so I think it's an xs-dev specific problem. I think that of the folks at 1CC, Reuben will be the first at the office (I won't be there today) so I'll ask him to follow up with Martin and wave a magic wand to fix things. Thanks, Reuben! - Ed On Aug 17, 2009, at 3:24 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Jerry Vonaujvo...@shaw.ca wrote: Anybody else having trouble reaching xs-dev.laptop.org? You're right. I can't ssh into it either. CC'ing Ed, Wad and Reuben who have access to the room of doom where xs-dev lives. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Question from University of Delaware XO Class
Not by default. The only way this can be achieved now is by backing up the XO to the XS and then retrieving the backup from the XS to the XO. On Oct 21, 2009, at 3:06 PM, Josh Totoro wrote: Is it possible to save and retrieve files from an XO to an XS server. I guess it would be similar to a network folder in windows that can be accessed by any XO. Josh Totoro Charter School Management Inc. 302 E 5th St. Chester, PA 19013 (610) 447-0400 x329 jtot...@chartersmi.com www.chartersmi.com This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee(s) only and may contain privileged, confidential, or proprietary information of Chester Community Charter School (CCCS). If you have received this message in error, please e-mail administrator at postmas...@chestercommunitycharter.org , then delete the e-mail and destroy any printed copy. CCCS reserves the right to retain, archive, use and disclose any emails that are sent from or to this email address. Thank you. ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] specs for virtual machines
Hrmm, an interesting proposal. I'd be happy to talk to them. This of course would require a ~100% connectivity on site which may be more useful for SOAS deployment's but nonetheless it may be of some interest to OLPC deployments. Reuben On Dec 10, 2009, at 4:05 PM, Walter Bender wrote: I met someone from a company that provides remote services for schools--mostly administrative and backups. They provide VMs and would be interested in hosting school servers. Anyone out there have time to talk with them about specifications? -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Problema con Squid en XS sobre Vmware
Alexis, This is the version you should be testing with: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/xs/OLPC-School-Server-0.6-i386.iso Regards, Reuben On Dec 21, 2009, at 3:53 PM, Alexis Pardo wrote: Estimados colaborades: Espero se encuentren bien. Les escribo para comentarles el inconveniente que tengo y ver si alguno de ustedes puede ayudarme. Como saben, a la fecha hay disponibles 6 imágenes del schoolserver en http://xs-dev.laptop.org/xs/other/ 1) OLPC School Server-0.7-i386.iso24-Oct-2009 03:07 545M 2) OLPC-School-Server-0.6d5-i386.iso 28-Aug-2009 18:06 549M 3) OLPC-School-Server-0.6d4-i386.iso 10-Aug-2009 17:39 549M 4) OLPC-School-Server-0.6d3-i386.iso 26-Jul-2009 16:30 549M 5) OLPC-School-Server-0.6d2-i386.iso 03-Jun-2009 03:15 549M 6) OLPC-School-Server-0.6d-i386.iso 18-May-2009 15:22 549M He probado cada una de ellas sobre un ambiente virtualizado. Para ello, hago uso de Vmware Workstation. Mis pruebas no han sido exitosas debido a que no logro encender el squid a través del script TURN_SQUID_ON Mi servidor virtual tiene 2 tarjetas de red, eth0 y eth1. La tarjeta de red eth0 está configurada en modo bridge y la eth1 en modo host only. Está última no tiene comunicación con el exterior. wan (eth0) --- SERVER --- lan (eth1) -- Estaciones que simulan ser XOs Sigo en orden los pasos para configurar el schoolserver, sin embargo, cuando llego al paso de ejecutar el script TURN_SQUID_ON, obtengo el error que muestra la imagen adjunta: http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/8370/xsv620091221144548.png Initializing https proxy context init_cache_dir /var/spool/squid... Starting squid: .. [FAILED] Por lo tanto, el squid no logra iniciar. De acuerdo con su experiencia, ¿a qué podría deberse esto? Estoy convencido de que estoy haciendo todo bien hasta el momento. Apreciaré sus comentarios. Saludos, Alexis ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Pushing Activities to XOs
Additional detail is that cloning requires security-disabled receivers. On Dec 22, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: Yep - with the small detail that it overwrites the nand storage. The other options under discussion preserve user data, etc... cheers, m On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Frederick Grose fgr...@gmail.com wrote: Another possibility might be http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Multicast_NAND_FLASH_Update#Cloning_the_Sender.27s_NAND . ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] We need: examples of XS hardware in use --
The Fit PC2 and the unit previously described for OLPCorps were both tested for use in the OLPCorps and the FitPC2 failed heat tests where the other unit passed. Reuben On Jan 13, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: The Fit PC2: 1.6 GHz Atom, 1GB DDR2 RAM, 6 ports, etc. Full specs at http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc2/fit-pc2-specifications/ Power consumption at the AC/DC powerbrick = 15W Gets hot to the touch. We've installed XS 0.6 on both machines successfully. The FitPC2 does have some reboot issues (hangs) so we didn't send it to Madagascar. We have the FitPC in the field in Maroantsetra, Madagascar, but isn't being used much due to other issues (lack of tech expertise in the field). We'll know more about the behavior of these once Ben (cc'd) has had a run of tests on these machines later this month. ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] PDF resources in public folders not opening in Reader
On Apr 2, 2010, at 12:46 AM, James Cameron wrote: On Fri, Apr 02, 2010 at 08:44:17AM +1000, David Leeming wrote: We have many resources that are published in PDF that we want to make available in public folders. However, when you browse to them and click on a PDf file, it does not open in Reader but within the browser and I am finding that the PDF reader plug-in for the Browse activity is not able to open many of the files ? I've reproduced this and raised a ticket. http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10098 So, how can we get it to force downloads that then open in Read activity? There is a check box ?force downloads?, can we make that take affect globally in the public folder? Hopefully an XS expert might be able to answer this. In the Browse activity that you are using, it doesn't seem possible for the user to force a download. I don't believe this is an XS issue. The XS is serving up the file and correct file type. I believe the solution lies in altering the mime type on the XO, so the XO will download the PDF and associate it with the Read application. FWIW, this is exactly how Browse used to work and it was altered so Browse would open, the pdf rather then having to launch the Read activity. ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Agregar Desktop a mi red Escolar
German, What are you assigning for static IP values on the Desktop? Martin, He is using a match rule granting only IPs with XO MAC addresses (now queue Wad yelling, DON'T DO THAT :-) (Although I don't think his allow and deny rules will do what he wants given the subnetting) Reuben On Apr 30, 2010, at 10:48 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: Hola Germán, la configuración default de dhcpd te da un rango para que uses con equipos con IP estática. No tienes que tocar la conf de dhcpd para nada (y tocarla crea un montón de problemas, nuestra conf de red es muy específica). Simplemente toma el desktop y configura IP, route y DNS a mano. Hay alguna razón por la que quieras darle al desktop una IP estática? Deja te obtenga una IP dinámica y listo! Ésto lo proveemos para impresoras y otros dispositivos que tienen que tener un nombre/IP estable porque dan un servicio a otros... saludos, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
