Re: Activities updated in 802b4 - test request

2010-03-16 Thread milan zimmermann
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Martin Langhoff
 wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:57 AM, milan zimmermann
>  wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Martin Langhoff
>>  wrote:
>>> Hi all!
>>>
>>> I am uploading 802b4 to http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/8.2.2-betas/ --
>>
>> I only see 802b3 there so far.
>
> Ah, the transfer landed in the wrong directory -- moved now to the right 
> place.
>
>> Let me ask a question: I wm wondering
>> what is the difference between 8.2.2-betas and
>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_XO-1 -
>
> Deployments need a new, updated build on XO-1. Deployments running old
> and trusty 8.2.1 have developed some fixes and patches that have
> proven their worth in the field. So roll them into a "service pack",
> minor upgrade, low risk, stable.


>
> F11 on XO-1 is lots of fun, but not stable nor low-risk.

Thanks

>
> cheers,
>
>
>
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Re: Activities updated in 802b4 - test request

2010-03-16 Thread milan zimmermann
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Martin Langhoff
 wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> I am uploading 802b4 to http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/8.2.2-betas/ --

I only see 802b3 there so far. Let me ask a question: I wm wondering
what is the difference between 8.2.2-betas and
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_XO-1 - I do not mean so much in
terms of technology, but in terms of intended usage and target
audience. I found this thread
http://www.mail-archive.com/devel@lists.laptop.org/msg21474.html but
that does not really compare the two.

Thanks,
Milan
> the main purpose of this build is to test updated activities. I did an
> initial round of smoketesting, and activities fall in 3 buckets:
>
>  - no update
>  - updated, superficial testing didn't find problems
>  - updated, found something...
>
> So my test request is: double check on those that I couldn't find any
> problems with, and help us get more info on the ones that seem buggy!
>
> Maybe I've been too good as a tester, and found corner case bugs...
>
> =No update=
>
> Anything not listed below ;-)
>
> = Updated, apparently good =
>
> Listed below -- version in 802-G1G1, new version.
>
> Calculate 25 -> 30
> Distance 14 -> 18
> Etoys -- 94 -> 99
> Implode 5 -> 9
> Memorize 33 -> 34
> Moon 10 -> 11
> Pippy 30 -> 35
> TamTamEdit 50 -> 52
> TamTamJam 51 -> 53
> TamTamMini 49 -> 52
> TamTamSynthLab 51 -> 53
> Terminal 18 -> 31
> Wikipedia 10 -> 11 (Spanish)
> SocialCalc Activity 1 -> 5
> Speak 9 -> 14 -- works very nice but may be held back because the new
> toolbar is confusing (is there a version > 9 that has the oldstyle
> toolbar?
> TurtleArt 10 -> 82 (!!!)
>
> Chat is a special case. I kept it on v48, but would be good to know if
> there is a newer version that works well on 802b4. Mikus reports the
> latest doesn't work well, and that v60 works but has important UI
> changes.
>
> = Updated, may have bugs =
>
> These newer versions are claimed by ASLO's database to be compatible with 0.82
>
>  - Colors 13 -> 15 -- it mostly worked correctly. I found odd bugs in
> some cases in shared mode; the buddies joining would see the right
> paintstrokes but with the wrong thickness or color. Maybe the bug is
> there on v13 too, and this is not a regression...?
>
>  - Log 16 -> 18 -- fails to start, errors out on "import gio".
>
>  - Measure 24 -> 29 -- "Keep error"
>
>  - Paint 23 -> 27 -- shared paint sessions fail to start on the buddy
>
>  - Read 56 -> 86 -- uses gconf, dies on 'import gconf'
>
>  - Record 59 -> 64 -- My test was heavy duty: go through each tab
> (picture, video, audio) and capture acouple of both, and then start
> the tab cycle again. OOMd twice, worked flawlessly once, needs more
> investigation. There is no denying that it OOMd or crashed, but it
> maystill be an improvement over v59
>
> cheers,
>
>
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Brief testing of OS10 (F11 for XO-1)

2009-12-23 Thread milan zimmermann
Hi,

A few observations running  OS10 on XO1.0 with latest XO1 firmware:

1) After about 10 minutes (did not measure time exactly) , all input
from keyboard and keypad stops. Interestingly, mouse plugged into USB
still works. I assume this is because of the Power saving (first of
the 2 options) is on. But:

2) By default, Power saving first checkbox is on. But it does not
persist when set to off.

3) Interestingly, recording sound in Etoys works (freezes on OS43 and
higher on XO1.5, see https://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9724).

milan
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Re: Testing OS64 on XO1.5

2009-12-23 Thread milan zimmermann
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 4:41 PM, James Cameron  wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 01:20:37PM -0500, milan zimmermann wrote:
>> 1) After reboot, or after a brief period of inactivity, the system
>> sometimes does not connect to network, [...]
>
> Deficiency of the B2 hardware, won't be fixed in B2, but will be (is)
> fixed in the next hardware revision.

ok, thanks

>
>> 2) In the Record activity, sound does not work - I tried to record
>> some fairly loud speach, saved it on the bottom, but on replay of the
>> saved clipping, a very (etremely) low sound - almost no sound,
>> certainly not distinquishable at all. Speakers were unmute and on max.
>
> Thanks, I've reproduced this and raised a new ticket. #9375.
> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9920

thanks

>
>> 3) Record activity does not maximize the camera view to the whole
>> screen (aftger hitting the maximize button)
>
> Known problem, ticket #9890.
> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9890
>
>> 4) In Etoys, sound does work reasonably loud, but is very jittery.
>
> Known problem, ticket #9375.
> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9375

Apparently Sayamindu Dasgupta provided a fix which Bert submitted:

http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-638

>
>> 5) With power unplugged, leaving the XO1.5 untouched for 15 minutes
>> (or so, did not measure exactly), all lights go off, only the power
>> light flashes. This is OK, but no mouse or keyboard action , only
>> holding the power button for about 2 seconds, brought the system back
>> from sleep . Is this normal or expected? It does not seem right..
>
> Intentional.
>
>> 6) There is no shell activity. Is that an intention to hide the
>> filesystem?
>
> Intentional, yes.  It is only hidden.

that was dumb of me I forgot not every activity is a favourite :)

Thanks everyone for answers.
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Testing OS64 on XO1.5

2009-12-20 Thread milan zimmermann
I was testing latest os (OS64) on XO1.5 with latest firmware (Q3A25)
this weekend. There are some thing that I think may be bugs, but
before reporting it I'd like to see if others experienced similar
problems.

Everything below applies to Sugar on OS64 on  XO1.5 - I did not test gnome.

1) After reboot, or after a brief period of inactivity, the system
sometimes does not connect to network, or disconnects from the
network, and shows nothing on the network neigborhood screen (many
dots button), only the middle xo symbol, while there are many wireless
networks around  - this happened at least five times in 6 hours of
testing, either aftrer reboot or after a brief inactivity. No such
problem on the XO1.0 system tested in parallel. This seems the biggest
issue.

2) In the Record activity, sound does not work - I tried to record
some fairly loud speach, saved it on the bottom, but on replay of the
saved clipping, a very (etremely) low sound - almost no sound,
certainly not distinquishable at all. Speakers were unmute and on max.

3) Record activity does not maximize the camera view to the whole
screen (aftger hitting the maximize button)

4) In Etoys, sound does work reasonably loud, but is very jittery.

5) With power unplugged, leaving the XO1.5 untouched for 15 minutes
(or so, did not measure exactly), all lights go off, only the power
light flashes. This is OK, but no mouse or keyboard action , only
holding the power button for about 2 seconds, brought the system back
from sleep . Is this normal or expected? It does not seem right..

6) There is no shell activity. Is that an intention to hide the filesystem?

Milan
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Re: 8.2.2 Beta-1 test request

2009-12-07 Thread Milan Zimmermann

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Paul Fox-2 [via OLPC]
 wrote:
> milan wrote:
>  >
>  > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Martin Langhoff
>  > <[hidden email]> wrote:
>  > >
>  > > With these changes, the touchpads should move a little bit slower,
>  > > have a bit more precision, and be a lot less 'jumpy'. In fact, when
>  > > they data gets jumpy, the driver ignores the data instead of jumping
>  > > wildly.
>  > >
>  > > Is the kangaroo mode gone? Is it more usable now? Are other effects
>  > > creeping in?
>  >
>  > I have ALPS touchpad.
>  >
>  > The mouse movement is perhaps a bit less jumpy then in old 802, but
>  > overall not very useable. There are times when it's ok (just slower
>  > then on the default 802 version), but there are times when it stops
>  > almost completely to respond to moving finger. Sometimes it has to be
>  > nudged 10 times to move the width or height of the screen. I cannot
>  > really tell why it is ok and why it starts behave like that. It comes
>  > and goes. Several times it moved slowly by itself. In a way it appears
>  > better when I do a continuos line draw (like when drawing spirals),
>  > but when using it in an application (does not seem to matter which
>  > app), and move the mouse quite a bit, it starts exhibit the "no
>  > respond" behavior.
>
> as with the old touchpad driver, the best thing to do when the
> touchpad is behaving badly is to remove your finger from it for a
> few seconds.  it will usually detect the condition, and
> recalibrate.  the tricky part is that if your finger is still on
> or very near the touchpad while the recalibration occurs, the
> problem probably won't get better, and may get worse.
>
> it's very frustrating that the laptops have such a crippled input
> device.  all we can do in the driver is try and notice when things
> "go bad", and make teh best of it, but we can't _prevent_ them
> from going bad.

yes i understand the hardware device is, well, quite bad...

>
> thanks very much for your testing.
>
>  >
>  > >
>  > > Comparison test drawing spirals:
>  > >
>  > >  - Grab 2 XOs with the same touchpad type, load the old stable 802 on
>  > > one, and my test build (802B1) on the other. If you only have one XO,
>  > > try one OS after the other...
>  > >
>  > >  - Open Paint and draw spirals
>  > >
>  > >    1) try to keep it reasonably tight
>  > >    2) stop if you collide or get sloppy
>  > >    3) count the number of cycles
>  > >    4) try again N times
>  > >    5) use the average cycles as a measure
>  >
>  > well, I only have one XO 1 and did not go back to old 802. With 802b1,
>  > I typically managed to do about 5 spiral cycles before it drew into
>  > the previous line. But after changing brush size I got a completely
>  > unpredictable behavior (non-responding or jumpy)
>  >
>  > I can also tell that the right part of the pad is much less sensitive
>  > (going up and down on the right does not move the mouse), this seems a
>  > hardware issue i wonder what others see.
>
> when you say "right part of the pad", i assume your finger is still in
> the middle section, and not all the way into the right section.

yes, still in the middle section. the righmost 1/2cm of the middle
section basically does not respond at all. I assume this is hardware,
however, I will go back to old 802 and double check and report back if
it behaves differently. . I have not noticed it explicitly before, but
when I think about it, finger drawing large circles was always funny.

> the right
> and left sections will definitely not respond.  if your finger is just
> at the righthand edge of the middle section, then your touchpad may truly
> be faulty.  you can run a diagnostic:  hold the "Check" gamepad key while
> booting, and then hit ESC  to get an "ok" prompt.  then type "test /mouse".

yes, thanks. I am pretty sure I ran test way in the past, and it was
OK, but will try again.

milan

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Re: 8.2.2 Beta-1 test request

2009-12-06 Thread Milan Zimmermann

Hi,

I did some XO1.0 testing with 802 B1 yesterday and today. First I:
- Show quoted text -
 - updated firmware to q2e41 (latest)
 - updated to 802 b1 from USB:
 - probe-usb copy-nand u:\xo1.0\os802b1.img

Testing notes and observations inline

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Martin Langhoff
 wrote:
> Note! We are also testing the XO-1.5 builds, and hoping to make a
> release Real Soon Now. If you have XO-1.5 hardware, help us test the
> 1.5 builds. On the other hand, if you have XO-1s to test, I need help
> with...
>
> The build is '802B1' -- find it at:
>
>http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/8.2.2-betas/
>
> Filing bugs -- the bugs related to this release are tagged with
> milestone '8.2.2'. Please set that milestone in any new bug you file,
> or add your notes to the existing bugs:
> http://dev.laptop.org/query?status=assigned&status=closed&status=new&status=reopened&order=status&col=id&col=summary&col=status&col=type&col=priority&col=component&milestone=8.2.2
>
> What's new?
>
> =Touchpad=
>
> The build has a rebuilt kernel with new touchpad drivers, and some
> configuration tweaks. This is for both old 'ALPS' touchpads and new
> 'Synaptics' touchpads. (Do mention which one you have!)
>
> With these changes, the touchpads should move a little bit slower,
> have a bit more precision, and be a lot less 'jumpy'. In fact, when
> they data gets jumpy, the driver ignores the data instead of jumping
> wildly.
>
> Is the kangaroo mode gone? Is it more usable now? Are other effects
> creeping in?

I have ALPS touchpad.

The mouse movement is perhaps a bit less jumpy then in old 802, but
overall not very useable. There are times when it's ok (just slower
then on the default 802 version), but there are times when it stops
almost completely to respond to moving finger. Sometimes it has to be
nudged 10 times to move the width or height of the screen. I cannot
really tell why it is ok and why it starts behave like that. It comes
and goes. Several times it moved slowly by itself. In a way it appears
better when I do a continuos line draw (like when drawing spirals),
but when using it in an application (does not seem to matter which
app), and move the mouse quite a bit, it starts exhibit the "no
respond" behavior.

>
> Comparison test drawing spirals:
>
>  - Grab 2 XOs with the same touchpad type, load the old stable 802 on
> one, and my test build (802B1) on the other. If you only have one XO,
> try one OS after the other...
>
>  - Open Paint and draw spirals
>
>1) try to keep it reasonably tight
>2) stop if you collide or get sloppy
>3) count the number of cycles
>4) try again N times
>5) use the average cycles as a measure

well, I only have one XO 1 and did not go back to old 802. With 802b1,
I typically managed to do about 5 spiral cycles before it drew into
the previous line. But after changing brush size I got a completely
unpredictable behavior (non-responding or jumpy)

I can also tell that the right part of the pad is much less sensitive
(going up and down on the right does not move the mouse), this seems a
hardware issue i wonder what others see.
Overall I think the old 802 cursor behaved a bit better, but I really
need to go back to it and try again. It is hard to compare without
having them side by side.


>
> Related
> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9775
> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9773
>
>
> = Kernel =
>
> The kernel rebuild may have caused other issues. Any problems with
> suspend/resume, wireless, freezes, I want to hear about them.

This seems to work with no problems:
Tried:

closed lid
10sec wait , several minute wait, about 15 minute wait
opened lid
moved mouse
activity came back.

closed lid several times in quick order
activity came back when opened and mouse moved.
- Show quoted text -

>
> = Wireless: Associating to Access Points and debugging =
>
> Fixed a bug where NetworkManager would -- in a % of connections -- not
> realise that the process had succeeded. Side by side, 802B1 should
> connect successfully to an AP more often.
> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8104
>
> And now if you `touch /etc/NetworkManager/log-supplicant` and restart.
> That same file is used as the logfile by wpa_supplicant.
> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9715
>
> = Startup / shutdown =
>
> Two bugs related to the shutdown process have been fixed. Rebooting
> side-by-side, you should see 802B1 shutdown much faster, and never
> hang in the switch to the "ul-warning" screen.
>
> If it ever hangs in the shutdown process, let me know...
>
> = Talk to the XS =
>
> Sugar now connects to gabble immediately after registration, no need
> for a reboot - If you have an XS handy (hint: get the XS-on-XO image
> on an SD card!), you can confirm this enhancement.
> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9726 -
>
> You can run 'olpc-connections' in a terminal to see it switch from one
> to the other right away.
>
> = OS version =
>
> The Sugar Control Panel should report the right version in 'About my
> XO'. 

reports :
Bu

Fwd: 8.2.2 Beta-1 test request

2009-12-06 Thread milan zimmermann
(hit sent too soon)
Hi,

I did some XO1.0 testing with 802 B1 yesterday and today. First I:
  - updated firmware to q2e41 (latest)
  - updated to 802 b1 from USB:
      - probe-usb copy-nand u:\xo1.0\os802b1.img

Testing notes and observations inline

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Martin Langhoff
 wrote:
> Note! We are also testing the XO-1.5 builds, and hoping to make a
> release Real Soon Now. If you have XO-1.5 hardware, help us test the
> 1.5 builds. On the other hand, if you have XO-1s to test, I need help
> with...
>
> The build is '802B1' -- find it at:
>
>    http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/8.2.2-betas/
>
> Filing bugs -- the bugs related to this release are tagged with
> milestone '8.2.2'. Please set that milestone in any new bug you file,
> or add your notes to the existing bugs:
> http://dev.laptop.org/query?status=assigned&status=closed&status=new&status=reopened&order=status&col=id&col=summary&col=status&col=type&col=priority&col=component&milestone=8.2.2
>
> What's new?
>
> =Touchpad=
>
> The build has a rebuilt kernel with new touchpad drivers, and some
> configuration tweaks. This is for both old 'ALPS' touchpads and new
> 'Synaptics' touchpads. (Do mention which one you have!)
>
> With these changes, the touchpads should move a little bit slower,
> have a bit more precision, and be a lot less 'jumpy'. In fact, when
> they data gets jumpy, the driver ignores the data instead of jumping
> wildly.
>
> Is the kangaroo mode gone? Is it more usable now? Are other effects creeping 
> in?

I have ALPS touchpad.

The mouse movement is perhaps a bit less jumpy then in old 802, but
overall not very useable. There are times when it's ok (just slower
then on the default 802 version), but there are times when it stops
almost completely to respond to moving finger. Sometimes it has to be
nudged 10 times to move the width or height of the screen. I cannot
really tell why it is ok and why it starts behave like that. It comes
and goes. Several times it moved slowly by itself. In a way it appears
better when I do a continuos line draw (like when drawing spirals),
but when using it in an application (does not seem to matter which
app), and move the mouse quite a bit, it starts exhibit the "no
respond" behavior.

>
> Comparison test drawing spirals:
>
>  - Grab 2 XOs with the same touchpad type, load the old stable 802 on
> one, and my test build (802B1) on the other. If you only have one XO,
> try one OS after the other...
>
>  - Open Paint and draw spirals
>
>    1) try to keep it reasonably tight
>    2) stop if you collide or get sloppy
>    3) count the number of cycles
>    4) try again N times
>    5) use the average cycles as a measure

well, I only have one XO 1 and did not go back to old 802. With 802b1,
I typically managed to do about 5 spiral cycles before it drew into
the previous line. But after changing brush size I got a completely
unpredictable behavior (non-responding or jumpy)

I can also tell that the right part of the pad is much less sensitive
(going up and down on the right does not move the mouse), this seems a
hardware issue i wonder what others see.
Overall I think the old 802 cursor behaved a bit better, but I really
need to go back to it and try again. It is hard to compare without
having them side by side.


>
> Related
> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9775
> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9773
>
>
> = Kernel =
>
> The kernel rebuild may have caused other issues. Any problems with
> suspend/resume, wireless, freezes, I want to hear about them.

This seems to work with no problems:
Tried:

closed lid
10sec wait , several minute wait, about 15 minute wait
opened lid
moved mouse
activity came back.

closed lid several times in quick order
activity came back when opened and mouse moved.

>
> = Wireless: Associating to Access Points and debugging =
>
> Fixed a bug where NetworkManager would -- in a % of connections -- not
> realise that the process had succeeded. Side by side, 802B1 should
> connect successfully to an AP more often.
> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8104
>
> And now if you `touch /etc/NetworkManager/log-supplicant` and restart.
> That same file is used as the logfile by wpa_supplicant.
> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9715
>
> = Startup / shutdown =
>
> Two bugs related to the shutdown process have been fixed. Rebooting
> side-by-side, you should see 802B1 shutdown much faster, and never
> hang in the switch to the "ul-warning" screen.
>
> If it ever hangs in the shutdown process, let me know...
>
> = Talk to the XS =
>
> Sugar now connects to gabble immediately after registration, no need
> for a reboot - If you have an XS handy (hint: get the XS-on-XO image
> on an SD card!), you can confirm this enhancement.
> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9726 -
>
> You can run 'olpc-connections' in a terminal to see it switch from one
> to the other right away.
>
> = OS version =
>
> The Sugar Control Panel should report the right version in 'About my
> XO'. And the 'Update' control panel mu

Re: 8.2.2 Beta-1 test request

2009-12-06 Thread milan zimmermann
Hi,

I did some testing yesterday and today. First I:
   - updated firmware to q2e41 (latest)
   - updated to 802 b1 from USB:
   - probe-usb copy-nand u:\xo1.0\os802b1.img

Testing notes and observations inline

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Martin Langhoff
 wrote:
> Note! We are also testing the XO-1.5 builds, and hoping to make a
> release Real Soon Now. If you have XO-1.5 hardware, help us test the
> 1.5 builds. On the other hand, if you have XO-1s to test, I need help
> with...
>
> The build is '802B1' -- find it at:
>
>    http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/8.2.2-betas/
>
> Filing bugs -- the bugs related to this release are tagged with
> milestone '8.2.2'. Please set that milestone in any new bug you file,
> or add your notes to the existing bugs:
> http://dev.laptop.org/query?status=assigned&status=closed&status=new&status=reopened&order=status&col=id&col=summary&col=status&col=type&col=priority&col=component&milestone=8.2.2
>
> What's new?
>
> =Touchpad=
>
> The build has a rebuilt kernel with new touchpad drivers, and some
> configuration tweaks. This is for both old 'ALPS' touchpads and new
> 'Synaptics' touchpads. (Do mention which one you have!)
>
> With these changes, the touchpads should move a little bit slower,
> have a bit more precision, and be a lot less 'jumpy'. In fact, when
> they data gets jumpy, the driver ignores the data instead of jumping
> wildly.
>
> Is the kangaroo mode gone? Is it more usable now? Are other effects creeping 
> in?

I have ALPS touchpad.

The mouse movement is perhaps a bit less jumpy then in old 802, but
overall not very useable. There are times when it's ok (just slower
then on the default 802 version), but there are times when it stops
almost completely to respond to moving finger. Sometimes it has to be
nudged 10 times to move the width or height of the screen. I cannot
really tell why it is ok and why it starts behave like that. It comes
and goes. Several times it moved slowly by itself. In a way it appears
better when I do a continuos line draw (like when drawing spirals),
but when using it in an application (does not seem to matter which
app), and move the mouse quite a bit, it starts exhibit the "no
respond" behavior.

>
> Comparison test drawing spirals:
>
>  - Grab 2 XOs with the same touchpad type, load the old stable 802 on
> one, and my test build (802B1) on the other. If you only have one XO,
> try one OS after the other...
>
>  - Open Paint and draw spirals
>
>    1) try to keep it reasonably tight
>    2) stop if you collide or get sloppy
>    3) count the number of cycles
>    4) try again N times
>    5) use the average cycles as a measure

well, I only have one XO 1 and did not go back to old 802. with 802b1,
I typically managed to do about 5 spiral cycles before it drew into
the previous line. But after changing brush size I got a completely
unpredictable behavior (non-responding or jumpy)

>
> Related
> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9775
> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9773
>
>
> = Kernel =
>
> The kernel rebuild may have caused other issues. Any problems with
> suspend/resume, wireless, freezes, I want to hear about them.

Tried:
closed lid

>
> = Wireless: Associating to Access Points and debugging =
>
> Fixed a bug where NetworkManager would -- in a % of connections -- not
> realise that the process had succeeded. Side by side, 802B1 should
> connect successfully to an AP more often.
> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8104
>
> And now if you `touch /etc/NetworkManager/log-supplicant` and restart.
> That same file is used as the logfile by wpa_supplicant.
> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9715
>
> = Startup / shutdown =
>
> Two bugs related to the shutdown process have been fixed. Rebooting
> side-by-side, you should see 802B1 shutdown much faster, and never
> hang in the switch to the "ul-warning" screen.
>
> If it ever hangs in the shutdown process, let me know...
>
> = Talk to the XS =
>
> Sugar now connects to gabble immediately after registration, no need
> for a reboot - If you have an XS handy (hint: get the XS-on-XO image
> on an SD card!), you can confirm this enhancement.
> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9726 -
>
> You can run 'olpc-connections' in a terminal to see it switch from one
> to the other right away.
>
> = OS version =
>
> The Sugar Control Panel should report the right version in 'About my
> XO'. And the 'Update' control panel must check for new activities by
> hitting a url ending in /8.2.2 (you might need a packet capture for
> that, or point it to a server you manage, just to see the 404s...).
>
> = Update your Activities? =
>
> The "you must update your activities" dialog on first boot is gone! It
> will only appear after a major upgrade (not a minor one).
>
> To test this, you can: install an older release (756 for example) and
> then use olpc-update --usb to upgrade to 802B1.
>
> = Do the activities work? =
>
> Try out the activities included. Did I break the OS so that any
> activities are failing?
>
> = Antitheft top

Re: 8.2.2 Beta-1 test request

2009-12-04 Thread milan zimmermann
Thanks for details. I will test it this weekend.

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Martin Langhoff
 wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:15 PM, milan zimmermann
>  wrote:
>> Is this a request to test on XO1 only? Assuming the instructions are
>> still here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Clean-install_procedure
>
> Yes, only for XO-1. And yes, that's the right set of instructions -
> specifically 
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Clean-install_procedure#Development_builds
>
>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Martin Langhoff
>>> =Touchpad=
>>>
>>> The build has a rebuilt kernel with new touchpad drivers, and some
>>> configuration tweaks. This is for both old 'ALPS' touchpads and new
>>> 'Synaptics' touchpads. (Do mention which one you have!)
>>
>> How can I tell?
>
> - The ALPS touchpad extends almost all the width of the XO, and is
> divided in 3 sections by lines drawn on the touchpad. Only the middle
> section is active. Also - at boot time the laptop will report itself
> as "CL1".
>
> - The Synaptics touchpad is about 2/3s of the width of the spacebar of
> the XO. It has roughly 4:3 proportions, similar to most touchpads on
> other laptops. At boot time, the laptop will report "CL1A".
>
>>> With these changes, the touchpads should move a little bit slower,
>>> have a bit more precision, and be a lot less 'jumpy'. In fact, when
>>> they data gets jumpy, the driver ignores the data instead of jumping
>>> wildly.
>>>
>>> Is the kangaroo mode gone? Is it more usable now? Are other effects 
>>> creeping in?
>>
>> What is Kangaroo mode - do you mean a jumpy cursor ?
>
> Wildly jumpy cursor. Like a kangaroo.
>
>> Is XS the school server?
>
> Yes -
>
>
>>> = Do the activities work? =
>>>
>>> Try out the activities included. Did I break the OS so that any
>>> activities are failing?
>>
>> Do you mean test activites after what was done in the above section
>> (=Update your Activites=), or simply test activities after clean
>> install of http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/8.2.2-betas/ ?
>
> Right after the clean install.  If you update activities, and that
> grabs newer versions, it'll be interesting to hear whether they work
> well (and what versions you've tested).
>
> cheers,
>
>
> m
> --
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>  mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect
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>  - don't get distracted with shiny stuff  - working code first
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Fwd: 8.2.2 Beta-1 test request

2009-12-04 Thread milan zimmermann
(forwarded, sorry I replied to author not list)

Hi,

Is this a request to test on XO1 only? Assuming the instructions are
still here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Clean-install_procedure

I have some questions inline about the things you are pointing out to test:

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Martin Langhoff
 wrote:
> Note! We are also testing the XO-1.5 builds, and hoping to make a
> release Real Soon Now. If you have XO-1.5 hardware, help us test the
> 1.5 builds. On the other hand, if you have XO-1s to test, I need help
> with...
>
> The build is '802B1' -- find it at:
>
>    http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/8.2.2-betas/
>
> Filing bugs -- the bugs related to this release are tagged with
> milestone '8.2.2'. Please set that milestone in any new bug you file,
> or add your notes to the existing bugs:
> http://dev.laptop.org/query?status=assigned&status=closed&status=new&status=reopened&order=status&col=id&col=summary&col=status&col=type&col=priority&col=component&milestone=8.2.2
>
> What's new?
>
> =Touchpad=
>
> The build has a rebuilt kernel with new touchpad drivers, and some
> configuration tweaks. This is for both old 'ALPS' touchpads and new
> 'Synaptics' touchpads. (Do mention which one you have!)

How can I tell?

>
> With these changes, the touchpads should move a little bit slower,
> have a bit more precision, and be a lot less 'jumpy'. In fact, when
> they data gets jumpy, the driver ignores the data instead of jumping
> wildly.
>
> Is the kangaroo mode gone? Is it more usable now? Are other effects creeping 
> in?

What is Kangaroo mode - do you mean a jumpy cursor ?

>
> Comparison test drawing spirals:
>
>  - Grab 2 XOs with the same touchpad type, load the old stable 802 on
> one,

ok

> and my test build (802B1) on the other. If you only have one XO,
> try one OS after the other...
>
>  - Open Paint and draw spirals
>
>    1) try to keep it reasonably tight
>    2) stop if you collide or get sloppy
>    3) count the number of cycles
>    4) try again N times
>    5) use the average cycles as a measure
>
> Related
> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9775
> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9773
>
>
> = Kernel =
>
> The kernel rebuild may have caused other issues. Any problems with
> suspend/resume, wireless, freezes, I want to hear about them.
>
> = Wireless: Associating to Access Points and debugging =
>
> Fixed a bug where NetworkManager would -- in a % of connections -- not
> realise that the process had succeeded. Side by side, 802B1 should
> connect successfully to an AP more often.
> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8104
>
> And now if you `touch /etc/NetworkManager/log-supplicant` and restart.
> That same file is used as the logfile by wpa_supplicant.
> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9715
>
> = Startup / shutdown =
>
> Two bugs related to the shutdown process have been fixed. Rebooting
> side-by-side, you should see 802B1 shutdown much faster, and never
> hang in the switch to the "ul-warning" screen.
>
> If it ever hangs in the shutdown process, let me know...
>
> = Talk to the XS =
>
> Sugar now connects to gabble immediately after registration, no need
> for a reboot - If you have an XS handy (hint: get the XS-on-XO image
> on an SD card!),

Is XS the school server?

> you can confirm this enhancement.
> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9726 -
>
> You can run 'olpc-connections' in a terminal to see it switch from one
> to the other right away.
>
> = OS version =
>
> The Sugar Control Panel should report the right version in 'About my
> XO'. And the 'Update' control panel must check for new activities by
> hitting a url ending in /8.2.2 (you might need a packet capture for
> that, or point it to a server you manage, just to see the 404s...).
>
> = Update your Activities? =
>
> The "you must update your activities" dialog on first boot is gone! It
> will only appear after a major upgrade (not a minor one).
>
> To test this, you can: install an older release (756 for example) and
> then use olpc-update --usb to upgrade to 802B1.
>
> = Do the activities work? =
>
> Try out the activities included. Did I break the OS so that any
> activities are failing?

Do you mean test activites after what was done in the above section
(=Update your Activites=), or simply test activities after clean
install of http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/8.2.2-betas/ ?

Thanks,


>
> = Antitheft topics =
>
> There are several antitheft enhancements -- these are more involved to
> test. If anyone is prepared to play with antitheft stuff, have a look
> at the 2 README files in olpc-bios-crypto and ping me.
>
> cheers,
>
>
> m
> --
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>  mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect
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>  - don't get distracted with shiny stuff  - working code first
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