An update from Adobe;
https://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2016/08/beta-news-flash-player-npapi-for-linux.html#sthash.zmBvj3cS.R31QTmNV.dpbs
thanks to
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/09/06/adobe_reverses_decision_to_kill_npapi_flash_plugin_for_linux/
This will likely work on XO-1.5. On XO-1
G'day,
To keep learners safe, please remove the Adobe Flash plugin on XO-1,
XO-1.75 or XO-4 laptops:
sudo rm /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
Adobe Security Bulletin APSA15-05 [1] is for a critical remote control
vulnerability (CVE-2015-7645). An attacker can take contr
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 05:56:22AM +, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote:
> James wrote:
> > To check, make sure the laptop is unlocked, and add this to the
> > second line of the boot/olpc.fth file:
> >
> > dev /sd patch 2drop cb! sdhci-card-power-off dend
>
> Does this keep the SD slot power
>
> To check, make sure the laptop is unlocked, and add this to the second
> line of the boot/olpc.fth file:
>
> dev /sd patch 2drop cb! sdhci-card-power-off dend
>
Does this keep the SD slot powered only when is occupied or regardless?
Does the OS takes over the SD slot power manageme
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> Subject: Re: XO-1 vs Sugar 0.104 performance, and swap to NAND Flash
> Message-ID: <20150408034727.gi9...@us.netrek.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Browse is one of the most heavily used activities when inte
On Wed, Apr 08, 2015 at 09:19:14PM -0400, Nathan C. Riddle wrote:
> Can I rephrase the question:
> Put /home and swap on SD.
That might help, for particularly large activities.
> I believe previous posts here have indicated that SD to RAM is not
> the slowest step. This has always been a debate i
Details below.
If you are looking for benefits other than performance, the main
benefit is total size. NAND flash is only 1 GB. By adding an 128 GB
SD card, the total content stored on the XO-1 can increase
dramatically.
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It has to do with when data moves, and how much concurre
Subject: Re: XO-1 vs Sugar 0.104 performance, and swap to NAND Flash
What benefit is an SD card on an XO-1?
My tests of about 400 starts show some benefit of using an SD card, on
activity startup time. The benefits are:
- boot time was decreased by several seconds; because of reduced
demand for
may be little advantage to using a faster
card.
For Sugar 0.104 comparing results by activity, between NAND flash and
SD card:
bundle_idcoldwarmstd ratio tests
com.garycmartin.Moon 11.928 10.294 0.492 0.863 24
>> On 07/04/15 22:47, James Cameron wrote:
>> > The testing scripts can be made available if anybody else would
>> > like to replicate the results.
>>
>> I'd be curious to look at your scripts and try to replicate some
>> results with our builds.
>
> git clone git://dev.laptop.org/users/quozl/test-
On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 11:32:00PM -0500, Sebastian Silva wrote:
>
> On 07/04/15 22:47, James Cameron wrote:
> > The testing scripts can be made available if anybody else would
> > like to replicate the results.
>
> I'd be curious to look at your scripts and try to replicate some
> results with o
On 07/04/15 22:47, James Cameron wrote:
> The testing scripts can be made available if anybody else would like
> to replicate the results.
I'd be curious to look at your scripts and try to replicate some results
with our builds.
Thanks a lot for your detailed tests!
Sebastian
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Subject: Re: [support-gang] XO-1 vs Sugar 0.104 performance, and swap to NAND
Flash
Browse is one of the most heavily used activities when internet or local
content is available.
Tests were run over many hours on several
Browse is one of the most heavily used activities when internet or
local content is available.
Tests were run over many hours on several XO-1 laptops. The XO-1 is
an old design which is slow enough to give useful statistics.
The results show a continued improvement to startup time over the
recen
>
> Activity startup time is
> much reduced, and reduced still further when the pulsing icon
> animation is switched from 10 times a second to twice a second. The
> animation is stealing resources! On the other hand, the spinning
> cursor during startup or in Browse consumes no significant resour
etter on the XO-1,
> thanks to all the work done by Sugar Labs developers. But I'm not
> finished testing [1].
>
> Meanwhile, there's an opportunity to add swap to jffs2 filesystem.
>
> The XO-1 NAND Flash is rated for 100,000 writes per cell. The jffs2
> filesystem
sting [1].
Meanwhile, there's an opportunity to add swap to jffs2 filesystem.
The XO-1 NAND Flash is rated for 100,000 writes per cell. The jffs2
filesystem we use spreads the writes across all the cells.
There's a risk that swapping to the NAND Flash will shorten the life
of an XO-1.
Looks like a typo. I've responded directly to Adam Gordon.
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To: Kevin Gordon
Subject: Re: [support-gang] vmeta repo and flash not working
tried the first step from
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Adobe_Flash#Installation_on_XO-1.75_and_XO-4, install the latest video driver
thats where i'm stuck
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Jon Nettleton wrote:
> I have never been in any conversations with anyone that new the actual
> licensing for the Adobe Flash binary.
(Note: I am no longer affiliated w OLPC in any way.) -- if you want to
distribute Flash binaries, Adobe has a series of fo
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Yioryos Asprobounitis
wrote:
> I would appreciate if someone could inform me about the redistribution of
> the
>
> ARM version of Adobe Flash present in OLPC-AU builds for XO-4.
> We would like to include it in FatDog/Puppylinux builds for the A
I would appreciate if someone could inform me about the redistribution of the
ARM version of Adobe Flash present in OLPC-AU builds for XO-4.
We would like to include it in FatDog/Puppylinux builds for the ARM XOs but we
certainly do not want to violate any outstanding redistribution agreements
Yes, we have new vmeta 13.2.0 bits, instructions are here:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Vmeta
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:09:01AM +0545, Basanta Shrestha wrote:
> Hi all,
> I am trying to make flash and vmeta to work for XO4.
>
> Few months ago when I was developing on version 12.1.0
Hi all,
I am trying to make flash and vmeta to work for XO4.
Few months ago when I was developing on version 12.1.0 for XO1.75 I made
use of http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/12.1.0-xo175-vmeta/vmeta-fusion.repofor
XO1.75 and everything had been perfect. I was wondering if someone is
working to
32 GB
That table will be very helpful when I need to reformat a flash store. Thanks!
According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix#Flash_drives ,
manufacturers of flash storage devices really do quote capacities in MB,
GB and TB.
Naively, I'd expect page size and block size, to
Hi again,
hulahop has doc? Where I can find it?
Thanks
Frank
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Frank Cancio wrote:
> Thanks Walter, but Tomeu EatBoom activity use Gnash directly, and I
> need run a Flash 10 application, so I need create a WebView instance.
> The application run perfect
Thanks Walter, but Tomeu EatBoom activity use Gnash directly, and I
need run a Flash 10 application, so I need create a WebView instance.
The application run perfectly, but I just can't figure out how close
it from Flash or from JavaScript.
Thanks again.
Frank
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 3:
> Because hulahop is deprecated, and new Browse use webkit.
>>> >
>>> > Gonzalo
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Frank Cancio wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi all,
>>> >>
>>>
;> > Because hulahop is deprecated, and new Browse use webkit.
>> >
>> > Gonzalo
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Frank Cancio wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> I have Fla
s deprecated, and new Browse use webkit.
> >
> > Gonzalo
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Frank Cancio wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I have Flash activity in which all user interaction is done through
> >> Flash. Ba
>
> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Frank Cancio wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have Flash activity in which all user interaction is done through
>> Flash. Basically what I did was create a hulahop.webview.WebView
>> instance and make it load a HTML (see
Do you need your activity run in old Sugar versions?
Because hulahop is deprecated, and new Browse use webkit.
Gonzalo
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Frank Cancio wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have Flash activity in which all user interaction is done through
> Flash. Basically wh
Hi all,
I have Flash activity in which all user interaction is done through
Flash. Basically what I did was create a hulahop.webview.WebView
instance and make it load a HTML (see code at the end) that load a
.swf file in full screen. So far so good, the problem come when I try
close the entire
It's command line, any work for any x86 apps to run through it would
need to be done.
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 5:45 AM, Roshan Karki wrote:
> What I mean is on your work, does the virtualized OS runs on top of Fedora
> or it runs as an activity, upon clicking which will run qemu and virtualized
>
What I mean is on your work, does the virtualized OS runs on top of Fedora
or it runs as an activity, upon clicking which will run qemu and
virtualized OS? Or does qemu runs on bare arm installation virtualizing x86
OS and running sugar on that?
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Peter Robinson wro
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Roshan Karki wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Peter Robinson
> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 5:28 AM, Roshan Karki wrote:
>> > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 2:44 AM, Samuel Greenfeld
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> To the best of my knowledge, the XO-1.7
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 5:28 AM, Roshan Karki wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 2:44 AM, Samuel Greenfeld
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> To the best of my knowledge, the XO-1.75 and XO-4 have no hardware-level
> >> x86 compatibility. They use proce
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 5:28 AM, Roshan Karki wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 2:44 AM, Samuel Greenfeld
> wrote:
>>
>> To the best of my knowledge, the XO-1.75 and XO-4 have no hardware-level
>> x86 compatibility. They use processors that use the ARM architecture.
>>
>> If you absolutely need x8
ble in Fedora are now compiled for ARM automatically as
> well.
>
> Adobe Flash support is available for 11.3.1 and 12.1.0 for XO-1.75 (along
> with accelerated video playback in the latter) but I would not be the
> person to know their licensing. Contact whomever you are working w
worked with deployments to get their custom activities
updated to be more platform independent. In general most applications
available in Fedora are now compiled for ARM automatically as well.
Adobe Flash support is available for 11.3.1 and 12.1.0 for XO-1.75 (along
with accelerated video playback
I'm pretty sure the answer is no, but just to confirm is there Adobe Flash
support for either XO-4 or XO-1.75? Also is there x86 compatible XO-4 or
XO-1.75 in production?
Thanks and happy new year.
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Hi,
OLE Nepal's EPaath includes a flash player. I am not sure about the
distribution issue.
Tony
> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 13:05:28 -0600
> From: Daniel Drake
> To: Jerry Vonau
> Cc: OLPC Devel
> Subject: Re: Adobe Flash no longer compatible with XO-1
> Message-I
On Wed, 2012-10-17 at 13:05 -0600, Daniel Drake wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Jerry Vonau wrote:
> > If is was installed for a while there should be older copies in OOB's
> > yum cache, check build/cache/imgcreate/adobe/packages/. If present you
> > should be able to pin the version yo
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Jerry Vonau wrote:
> If is was installed for a while there should be older copies in OOB's
> yum cache, check build/cache/imgcreate/adobe/packages/. If present you
> should be able to pin the version you want to install in OOB's
> modules/adobe_flash/kspkglist.50.a
On Wed, 2012-10-17 at 11:59 -0600, Daniel Drake wrote:
> For XO-1 and XO-1.5, Adobe Flash is easily included in custom OLPC OS
> builds (once you have obtained distribution permission from Adobe -
> seems like they give this out quite readily on request) with the
> [adobe_flash] olp
For XO-1 and XO-1.5, Adobe Flash is easily included in custom OLPC OS
builds (once you have obtained distribution permission from Adobe -
seems like they give this out quite readily on request) with the
[adobe_flash] olpc-os-builder module. (Note that it has never ran
remarkably well on these
On Mon, 2011-12-05 at 11:19 +1100, James Cameron wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 04, 2011 at 10:09:27PM +1300, Carlos Nazareno wrote:
> > XO 1.75 1B1 (a B1 with non-membrane keyboard & no SD, right?)
>
> XO-1.75 1B1 has eMMC instead of microSD as internal storage, but does
> have an external SD slot.
Carlos
Thanks for testing.
On Sun, Dec 04, 2011 at 10:09:27PM +1300, Carlos Nazareno wrote:
> XO 1.75 1B1 (a B1 with non-membrane keyboard & no SD, right?)
XO-1.75 1B1 has eMMC instead of microSD as internal storage, but does
have an external SD slot.
> Note: Fresh off flashing & first boot, was unable
Hi guys.
XO 1.75 1B1 (a B1 with non-membrane keyboard & no SD, right?)
Note: Fresh off flashing & first boot, was unable to connect to Wifi
network multiple times. Switched to Gnome, same.
After rebooting, managed to connect to wifi, but not sending/receiving
packets. Disconnecting & reconnectin
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ing in the F13 ARM build so it may be
held up with some problem.
> Flash might be a little more difficult as the version on the n900
OTOH, I have seen Flash running on Ubuntu on ARM (on the Freescale
Cortex SOC), so it is possibly within reach... of Adobe. Nothing we
can do on that front.
Carl
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:47 AM, Carlos Nazareno wrote:
> Will Flash Flash Player & Java SE (not JavaME) run on the XO-1.75, it
> being non-x86?
>
> For Android, Flash Player requires an ARMv7 (Cortex) + to run.
>
> Flash Player 9 was running on the N900 which ran
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Alan Eliasen wrote:
> I considered it also a serious problem that the then-shipping
> configurations of the OLPC completely lacked fonts with glyphs for many
> languages (e.g. there were no fonts with Chinese or Japanese characters)
> so these languages could not
On 04/13/2011 05:47 PM, Carlos Nazareno wrote:
> Will Flash Flash Player & Java SE (not JavaME) run on the XO-1.75, it
> being non-x86?
You may look into trying to get "Java SE For Embedded" working. It
supposedly supports ARM architectures, but that's a
Will Flash Flash Player & Java SE (not JavaME) run on the XO-1.75, it
being non-x86?
For Android, Flash Player requires an ARMv7 (Cortex) + to run.
Flash Player 9 was running on the N900 which ran Maemo.
Video calls & streaming over internet is now one of the most important
uses for de
>
>> What are the specs on the desktop?
>
> Twin-core Opteron running at 2.6 GHz. However, 'top' shows no more than
> 5% of one core being used by Firefox+plugin while rendering that video clip.
>
Sounds like you are running an nvidia GPU with the proprietary
drive
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:02 PM, James Cameron wrote:
> No, there is no "best practice" rule.
Well, we are learning some things, so yeah, we do have some "getting
better" practices at least :-)
So far
As noted by Jon Nettleton
- latest flash plugin helps
- once 11.2
On 02/23/2011 10:37 PM, Jon Nettleton wrote:
> Are you on youtube without any ad-blocking software?
Yes. My initial comparison run was using Browse-120. Is there
ad-blocking software available for the Browse Activity ?
> What are the specs on the desktop?
Twin-core Opteron running at 2.6 GHz.
; clip:
> Side by side on XO (Browse-120) with driver
> xorg-x11-drv-chrome-5.74.33-2.fc14.i686 and on desktop system (Firefox)
> - both presenting that video clip at 360p.
What are the specs on the desktop? Flash video is all done via
software rendering. We are still limited by bein
>> similar performance to flash 10.2. [On the XO-1.5, all of these
>> > browsers display YouTube 240p clips acceptably (but still jerky).]
> With the new display drivers, youtube videos at 320p are very
> watchable. You will get occasional glitches due to CPU constraints
> similar performance to flash 10.2. [On the XO-1.5, all of these
> browsers display YouTube 240p clips acceptably (but still jerky).]
With the new display drivers, youtube videos at 320p are very
watchable. You will get occasional glitches due to CPU constraints
but generally quite
> Is there a definitive 'best practice' rule for both XO1 and 1.5
> for users who wish to display web sites with rich flash content?
As far as I am concerned, the current 'best' is Adobe Flash 10.2.
OLPC has reservations about it because it is not "open source&quo
; anyone doing that. It would be a difficult task; the phase space has
> dimensions of (a) hardware model, (b) operating system, (c) desktop, (d)
> browser, (e) plugin, and (f) content or web site.
>
> I've tested Browse and Firefox with the Adobe Flash plugin in the past
> week
ons of (a) hardware model, (b) operating system, (c) desktop, (d)
browser, (e) plugin, and (f) content or web site.
I've tested Browse and Firefox with the Adobe Flash plugin in the past
week or so. My data point in the phase space:
(a) XO-1.5
(b) 10.1.3
(c) GNOME or Sugar
(d) Firefox or Browse
Is there a definitive 'best practice' rule for both XO1 and 1.5 for users who
wish to display web sites with rich flash content? Use browse, use firefox,
use gnome, uninstall such and such?
There seems to be many variant suggestions out in the wikisphere, I was
wondering if t
>> I successfully installed the latest version of Flash on an XO-1.5 running
>> 10.1.3 (860). fI followed the instructions on this page:
>>
>>
>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Adobe_Flash
Hi guys. Sorry for the long hiatus.
I had some very personal issues I had to atte
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 7:02 AM, John Gilmore wrote:
> > There's a long standing hard bug of non-accelerated video on Linux
> > (not just XO). That hurts hurts HURTS any Linux device. There is some
> > backstory on that -- it's whether to use Xv or not, whether the video
> > frames can be grabbed
> So what is the status of OS15 build that was posted June 15th in Steve
> Parrish's directory?
It works.
mikus
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On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 11:47:13PM -0700, rihowa...@gmail.com wrote:
> So what is the status of OS15 build that was posted June 15th in Steve
> Parrish's directory?
No public announcement seen, but the file is there, and much larger than
os14. A healthy size. ;-)
http://people.sugarlabs.org/~sm
carlos wrote:
>>> Hi guys!
>>>
>>> There's a number of different builds up on the OLPC pages right now:
>>>
>>> * OLPC 802 (Sugar 0.84)
>>> * OLPC F11 - OS11
>>> * Paraguay F11 + Sugar 0.88
>>> * Sugar Labs F11 OS11-OS15
>>
OLPC 802 (Sugar 0.84)
>> * OLPC F11 - OS11
>> * Paraguay F11 + Sugar 0.88
>> * Sugar Labs F11 OS11-OS15
>>
>> For the purposes of keeping the Flash Platform wikis updated, which
>> are the snapshots I should use for long-term testing of Flash, Gnash &
>>
> There's a long standing hard bug of non-accelerated video on Linux
> (not just XO). That hurts hurts HURTS any Linux device. There is some
> backstory on that -- it's whether to use Xv or not, whether the video
> frames can be grabbed from the Xv pipeline to overlay stuff on top or
> not - early
carlos wrote:
> Hi guys!
>
> There's a number of different builds up on the OLPC pages right now:
>
> * OLPC 802 (Sugar 0.84)
> * OLPC F11 - OS11
> * Paraguay F11 + Sugar 0.88
> * Sugar Labs F11 OS11-OS15
>
> For the purposes of keeping the Flash P
Hi guys!
There's a number of different builds up on the OLPC pages right now:
* OLPC 802 (Sugar 0.84)
* OLPC F11 - OS11
* Paraguay F11 + Sugar 0.88
* Sugar Labs F11 OS11-OS15
For the purposes of keeping the Flash Platform wikis updated, which
are the snapshots I should use for long
> For those of you who've successfully installed AIR, can you email me
> ... with the steps you went through (and on which OS/image) so
> I can put it on the Wiki?
On XO: rpm -ivh air2_rc1_runtime_lin_051110.i386.rpm
Note: I am a heavy user of 'yum' -- therefore I have made my system
yum-frie
e kinks.
And put ONE BIG WARNING. The Adobe distribution license says that
messing with the install process and distributing a different
installer are both forbidden. Talk to your lawyer.
> Next, I'll update the Flash issues wiki page
> [http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Adobe_Flash_Issues] with dat
there was a discussion before here on the list about how the AIR
installer was placing the files in the wrong directories during
installation. For those guys in the know, can you PM me so I can place
details on the AIR Issues page?
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Adobe_AIR_Issues
Next, I'll update
sorry for the late reply
Esteban, we use Flash for the E-Paath lessons though we are slowly
transitioning to HTML5 instead. You can browse and reuse all the flash code
here http://hg.olenepal.org and view the Flash lessons here
http://www.pustakalaya.org/external-content/static/epaath
On 14 April 2010 13:15, Carlos Nazareno wrote:
> I see one thing I should point out on this page, Gnash 0.8.3 is
> ridiculously ancient, and should be avoided. Much of the problems of
> Gnash on the XO are because the packages on the XO are *years* out of
> date. :-(
Unfortunately all of the pac
Hi guys!
Just made an invite to the Flash Lite community to work on Flash for OLPC and am
starting to get a trickle of volunteers.
I take it back about AS2 as a dead-end technology that should be
abandoned. It's much easier to learn for newbie-coders & AJAX/DHTML
devs since it's J
> exist some study for adobe FLASH on sugar 0.82 and XO 1.0 ?
> requirements? considerations to develop activities?
Hola Esteban!
Check out the Wiki entry we started here on Flash Edu-game dev for the XO:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects/Flash_Gamedev
We'll be updating the wiki
/addon/4225
>
>
> i use it to make
>
> http://people.sugarlabs.org/rafael/CuerpoHumano-1.xo
Some more info:
http://blog.tomeuvizoso.net/2009/04/embed-flash-movies-with-gnash-in-your.html
Would be good if you could get in contact with the OLE Nepal team
about this, they trie
Ortiz
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Esteban Arias
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> exist some study for adobe FLASH on sugar 0.82 and XO 1.0 ?
> requirements? considerations to develop activities?
>
> thanks
> Esteban.
>
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Hi,
exist some study for adobe FLASH on sugar 0.82 and XO 1.0 ?
requirements? considerations to develop activities?
thanks
Esteban.
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> So, I guess you don't install any software that you download and run, like
> Firefox or OpenOffice.org or Google Earth?
I've installed and am running applications such as Firefox 3.6.3 (plus
Flash 10.1), Google Chrome 5.0.342.9, Adobe Reader 9.3.1, mplayer,
FBReader, etc. -- bec
There's been so many changes and additions ever since Flash 9 and AS3
was introduced. Among them is byte-level manipulation which allows us
to do really funky creative stuff, especially if combo-ed with AIR
which allows you to read & write to the local filesystem.
More importantly is t
So, I guess you don't install any software that you download and run, like
Firefox or OpenOffice.org or Google Earth? An AIR program doesn't just
sneak itself onto your system -- the user decides to buy it, or trust the
source of it, downloads it, and runs the installer. The point about AIR is
th
> The AIR application is given more freedom -- for example, it can
> access local files.
Back when Netscape first came out, I was bitten when a "selfish" plugin
changed my system's defaults without me realizing it. Ever since, I do
NOT want a remotely acquired program to be able to access the loc
Sorry, I keep forgetting to put the list manager in my addresses. Here's
my latest message:
-- Forwarded message --
From: Stanley Sokolow
Date: Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: Flash + AIR on OLPC
To: mi...@bga.com
I forgot to answer your statement below about
AIR (Adobe Integrated Runtime) is a desktop application that runs the
FlashPlayer virtual machine outside of a browser. You know that Flash is
usually thought of as a plug-in to run Flash content inside of a web page
being displayed on a browser. To maintain web security, the Flash plug-in
al. But what does AIR provide that for instance the combination
of "latest Firefox plus latest Adobe Flash plugin" would not provide ?
Thanks, mikus
p.s. People keep showing various Linux platforms (e.g., Ubuntu, Debian,
etc) running on the XO. As far as I am concerned, if these pe
stanley wrote:
>
> Sorry, Paul, I just can't accept the idea that the target audience of the
> OLPC projects must necessarily include kids who are capable and interested
> in re-programming the software activities they're using.Moreover, would
> you want to modify and re-compile your app
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From: Stanley Sokolow
Date: Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: Flash + AIR on OLPC
To: Paul Fox
Sorry, Paul, I just can't accept the idea that the target audience of the
OLPC projects must necessarily include kids who are capable and inter
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Carlos Nazareno wrote:
> Martin, how is this Flash's fault?
I didn't say it was its fault -- I did point out the same cultural
issue you mention.
And shiny distracts. You are writing very long emails and not pointing
to compelling deep and rich stuff.
Maybe what
on the XO.
it's not that unreasonable. kids learn by doing, and exploring.
that's kind of the whole point of constructionism. if you give
someone a game written using python and pygame, they can (in
principle) modify that game to change the playing rules. if you
give them that same g
> Nobody has stated that it can't be done. But experience shows the
> opposite correlation (and I have worked in many edu projects using
> Flash myself, some huge such as TLF's SOCCI).
>
> Maybe it's a cultural problem (ie: people who get excited with Flash
> t
rlying it). That's more than sufficient to build rich educational
interactive constructionist applications.This is an education project,
after all.Developers in countries where the XO is targeted can surely
get a little netbook to run the Flash IDE as a development tool.Even as
t
That page shows Vyew.com running on Xubuntu on the XO-1. In my experience,
Vyew.com is "something outstanding for learning
with low barriers of entry and no ceiling" that Martin asked to see built
with Flash. (Stanford University uses Vyew for its Stanford Engineering
Every
Hi,
>> has a free-open-source IDE (FlashDevelop) from a community,
> does this run on the XO?
Nope. We're to believe that Flash is appropriate for constructionism
on the XO even though it doesn't allow XO users to construct anything.
- Chris.
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stanley wrote:
> You can see the Xubuntu system running on our XO-1 at: Internet Math
> Tutoring / OLPC Project
> <http://internetmathtutoring.com/olpc/static.php?page=static090711-100100>.
what does this have to do with flash?
>
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 9:3
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