Re: Flash + AIR on OLPC

> So, I guess you don't install any software that you download and run, like > Firefox or OpenOffice.org or Google Earth? I've installed and am running applications such as Firefox 3.6.3 (plus Flash 10.1), Google Chrome 5.0.342.9, Adobe Reader 9.3.1, mplayer, FBReader, etc. -- because I trust the

Re: Flash + AIR on OLPC

So, I guess you don't install any software that you download and run, like Firefox or OpenOffice.org or Google Earth? An AIR program doesn't just sneak itself onto your system -- the user decides to buy it, or trust the source of it, downloads it, and runs the installer. The point about AIR is th

Re: Flash + AIR on OLPC

> The AIR application is given more freedom -- for example, it can > access local files. Back when Netscape first came out, I was bitten when a "selfish" plugin changed my system's defaults without me realizing it. Ever since, I do NOT want a remotely acquired program to be able to access the loc

Re: Flash + AIR on OLPC

AIR (Adobe Integrated Runtime) is a desktop application that runs the FlashPlayer virtual machine outside of a browser. You know that Flash is usually thought of as a plug-in to run Flash content inside of a web page being displayed on a browser. To maintain web security, the Flash plug-in enfo

Re: Flash + AIR on OLPC

There's been all this discussion of AIR. I am unfamiliar with AIR. My question : "Why would I (as an user) __need__ AIR ?" I do not mind using a "browser", nor do I mind installing a special-purpose "plugin" into my browser in order to access particular material. But what does AIR provide that

Re: Flash + AIR on OLPC

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Carlos Nazareno wrote: > Martin, how is this Flash's fault? I didn't say it was its fault -- I did point out the same cultural issue you mention. And shiny distracts. You are writing very long emails and not pointing to compelling deep and rich stuff. Maybe what

Re: Flash + AIR on OLPC

stanley wrote: > I guess I don't understand "constructionism". i think that's right. > > Is it reasonable to require that the development system run on the target > machine? yes. it's one of the reasons most activities, and many of the system, is coded in python. > If Apple had this requ

Re: Flash + AIR on OLPC

> Nobody has stated that it can't be done. But experience shows the > opposite correlation (and I have worked in many edu projects using > Flash myself, some huge such as TLF's SOCCI). > > Maybe it's a cultural problem (ie: people who get excited with Flash > things singing and dancing tend to buil

Re: Flash + AIR on OLPC

I guess I don't understand "constructionism". Is it reasonable to require that the development system run on the target machine?If Apple had this requirement, all of the iPhone/iPod/iPad applications would be gone. We wouldn't have any of the millions of devices (mp3 players, routers, modems

Re: Flash + AIR on OLPC

That page shows Vyew.com running on Xubuntu on the XO-1. In my experience, Vyew.com is "something outstanding for learning with low barriers of entry and no ceiling" that Martin asked to see built with Flash. (Stanford University uses Vyew for its Stanford Engineering Everywhere

Re: Flash + AIR on OLPC

Hi, >> has a free-open-source IDE (FlashDevelop) from a community, > does this run on the XO? Nope. We're to believe that Flash is appropriate for constructionism on the XO even though it doesn't allow XO users to construct anything. - Chris. -- Chris Ball One Laptop Per Child __

Re: Flash + AIR on OLPC

stanley wrote: > You can see the Xubuntu system running on our XO-1 at: Internet Math > Tutoring / OLPC Project > . what does this have to do with flash? > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Stanley Sokolow > wrote

Re: Flash + AIR on OLPC

You can see the Xubuntu system running on our XO-1 at: Internet Math Tutoring / OLPC Project . On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Stanley Sokolow wrote: > Sorry, guys, but I just don't see why the content is somehow corrupte

Re: Flash + AIR on OLPC

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Stanley Sokolow wrote: > So, please explain why "constructionist" educational models can't be Nobody has stated that it can't be done. But experience shows the opposite correlation (and I have worked in many edu projects using Flash myself, some huge such as TLF'

Re: Flash + AIR on OLPC

Sorry, guys, but I just don't see why the content is somehow corrupted or limited by deployment on the Flash platform.The FlashPlayer implements a virtual machine that is customized by Adobe to run on various hardware and OSs. They're extending it now to ARM-processor-based devices (cell phon

Re: Flash + AIR on OLPC

I'm guilty of spending more time than I probably should at newgrounds.com, their slogan being "Everything, by Everyone". Its a melting pot of free content, and what really impresses me are the absolute gems of creativity that one finds from time to time. I dont see flash as the main XO education c

Re: Flash + AIR on OLPC

On Apr 11, 2010, at 8:56 PM, James Cameron wrote: > On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 08:51:01PM -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: >> But hey. Flash developers want Flash in it. It's gotta be good for >> something. > > My guess is that it is handy for repurposing the system for > entertainment usage. (I don'

Re: Flash + AIR on OLPC

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 08:51:01PM -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: > But hey. Flash developers want Flash in it. It's gotta be good for > something. My guess is that it is handy for repurposing the system for entertainment usage. (I don't have Flash enabled on my systems, so I don't really know wha

Re: Flash + AIR on OLPC

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 8:03 PM, John Watlington wrote: > It is extremely hard to see how anyone conversant with constructionist > learning could get excited about Flash + OLPC. Ditto here. I have never seen anyone who understands learning in depth advocating Flash. Social constructionism and Fla

Re: Flash + AIR on OLPC

On Apr 11, 2010, at 7:08 PM, Carlos Nazareno wrote: > Hey Martin! JD also hooked us up with Tom Nguyen, product manager for > the Flash Player and here's what Tom said: > > "Great to meet you. I actually recently graduated with an MA in > Education from Stanford, where I spent a bit of time foc

Re: Flash + AIR on OLPC

Hey Martin! JD also hooked us up with Tom Nguyen, product manager for the Flash Player and here's what Tom said: "Great to meet you. I actually recently graduated with an MA in Education from Stanford, where I spent a bit of time focusing on constructionist learning methods, so it's great to hear

Re: Flash + AIR on OLPC

On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:48 AM, Carlos Nazareno wrote: > hey guys! Good news, I was able to get in touch with John Dowdell of > Adobe (email below). jd is still around! We used to correspond over bug and quirks in Director versions 3 to 6. >From my PoV, Flash is ok installation wise (hey! some o

re: Flash + AIR on OLPC

hey guys! Good news, I was able to get in touch with John Dowdell of Adobe (email below). I'll coordinate with Reuben & Ed for the info needed by Adobe to improve Flash & AIR behavior on the XOs. *crosses fingers* -Naz "> Some stuff OLPC needs to get Flash & AIR running better on the XO-1 & 1.5: