Re: GR-701W hangs on Pi-3

2016-06-03 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Achim! On Fri, 03 Jun 2016 20:55:14 +0200 Achim Gratz <strom...@nexgo.de> wrote: > Gary E. Miller writes: > > The Pi people say 2 amps is not good enough, they recommend 2.5A. > > I've been running my 2B unit on a 1A charger and never had any > proble

Re: Concerning the ntp-4.2.8p8 security fixes

2016-06-03 Thread Gary E. Miller
"We take fewer risks". RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpX53DzshAL8.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gpsd-dev] GR-701W hangs on Pi-3

2016-06-03 Thread Gary E. Miller
ower > > supply or power cable is not adequate. > > Excellent tip, added. Before the power LED flickers, or goes out, there will be a rainbow colored box on the top left of the HDMI output screen. Took me forever to figure out why it was there... :-( RGDS GARY -----

Re: Test farm news - I think my cat is forcing me to acquire Legos

2016-06-03 Thread Gary E. Miller
to the outside of the house? RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpgnCqaz698D.pgp Desc

Re: Test farm news - I think my cat is forcing me to acquire Legos

2016-06-03 Thread Gary E. Miller
e Pi's outside? RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpYu6TAuhoWt.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital sig

Re: GR-701W hangs on Pi-3

2016-06-03 Thread Gary E. Miller
dp/B00L5IS9KE/ref=sr_1_1 The individual power switches are nice. But, they only work on Linux kernel 4.6 and up, somthing about a USB 3.1 chip inside. Similar issues reported on older windows. Get a USB 2.0 port and save yourself the grief. RGDS GARY --------

Re: My pre-1.0 wishlist

2016-06-05 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Eric! On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 09:50:15 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" <e...@thyrsus.com> wrote: > Gary E. Miller <g...@rellim.com>: > > On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 01:02:08 -0400 > > > > Use the console serial port. Then you can see bootup even > > > > b

Re: State of the microserver HOWTO

2016-06-06 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Eric! On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 20:32:07 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" <e...@thyrsus.com> wrote: > Gary E. Miller <g...@rellim.com>: > > Yo Eric! > > > > On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 19:54:22 -0400 > > "Eric S. Raymond" <e...@thyrsus.com> wrote: &

Re: microserver HOWTO timeservice patch

2016-06-08 Thread Gary E. Miller
aud. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpZ6zBoxlO1H.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ dev

Re: State of the microserver HOWTO

2016-06-08 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Eric! On Wed, 8 Jun 2016 06:53:08 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" <e...@thyrsus.com> wrote: > Gary E. Miller <g...@rellim.com>: > > Same as the last one, but, see below. > > Nice. The comments have graduated from "cruel tease" to "pretty >

Re: State of the microserver HOWTO

2016-06-08 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Frank! On Wed, 8 Jun 2016 09:54:54 -0400 Frank Nicholas <fr...@nicholasfamilycentral.com> wrote: > > On Jun 7, 2016, at 8:34 PM, Gary E. Miller <g...@rellim.com> wrote: > > > > Yo Hal! > > > > I agree with Hal, my descriptions are a bit lon

Re: Shippable ntp.conf files for the HOWTO

2016-06-08 Thread Gary E. Miller
figuration illustrating and explaning good logging practice > for performance analysis. Thus WAY too much duplication! Most of those should be identical! Stop the duplication! I can't find an include file directive in ntp.conf? > Another reveal: I hope to use these as bases for compar

Re: microserver HOWTO timeservice patch

2016-06-08 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Frank! On Wed, 8 Jun 2016 14:18:05 -0400 Frank Nicholas <fr...@nicholasfamilycentral.com> wrote: > > On Jun 8, 2016, at 2:13 PM, Gary E. Miller <g...@rellim.com> wrote: > > > > > > + # Make sure the UART device is in a good state > > +

Re: Shippable ntp.conf files for the HOWTO

2016-06-09 Thread Gary E. Miller
. Thanks for that. Much easier to comment out an include file, than all that same data directly in the master config file. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703

Re: Shippable ntp.conf files for the HOWTO

2016-06-08 Thread Gary E. Miller
ing is a lot slower than later ones. Both locally and remotely. > Should we setup a FAQ for that > sort of thing? Later... RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rel

Re: Shippable ntp.conf files for the HOWTO

2016-06-08 Thread Gary E. Miller
p.org iburst # server 3.us.pool.ntp.org iburst RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpsAOYc_H5NP.pgp Descriptio

Re: State of the microserver HOWTO

2016-06-07 Thread Gary E. Miller
t; What level of geeky detail do you want to dicsuss? The ARP timeout > is a good example. > RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703

Re: Logfile permissions and ntp group

2016-06-07 Thread Gary E. Miller
ly faster to change the code. :-) RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpnUQLHA24

Re: State of the microserver HOWTO

2016-06-07 Thread Gary E. Miller
a bug: https://gitlab.com/NTPsec/ntpsec/issues/76 RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpPhwj47f94V.pgp Description

Re: State of the microserver HOWTO

2016-06-07 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Eric! A small adjustment to my ntp.conf. I added the issue number for the tartup glitch. Comments welcome. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com

Re: Testing: IPv6

2016-06-07 Thread Gary E. Miller
Pv6 peers to my ntp.conf, no problems. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpIeXic94PXX.pgp Description: OpenPGP di

Re: Logfile permissions and ntp group

2016-06-07 Thread Gary E. Miller
tpd, so ntpd can make the new file. Which has all the problems of restarting ntpd. > I find it handy to have all the ntp logging in one directory. Yes, I like that. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., S

Re: Logfile permissions and ntp group

2016-06-07 Thread Gary E. Miller
nobody is not a good one to use. Then ntp is lumped in with all the other nobodies and that crowd can become a somebody. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.c

Re: microserver HOWTO timeservice patch

2016-06-07 Thread Gary E. Miller
If ntpd starts first, it will set the local clock using a remote, probably pool, server. Then cntpd has to spend a whole day undoing the damage done to the PLL. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suit

Re: State of the microserver HOWTO

2016-06-07 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Frank! Good input, net ntp.conf below. On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 17:04:21 -0400 Frank Nicholas <fr...@nicholasfamilycentral.com> wrote: > > On Jun 7, 2016, at 4:52 PM, Gary E. Miller <g...@rellim.com> wrote: > > > > peer 204.17.205.1 maxpoll 5 # catbert > >

Re: State of the microserver HOWTO

2016-06-07 Thread Gary E. Miller
tpd writes the drift file and no errors are logged. Hal says the driftfile is not written on shutdown, so my tests are not valid. Or they point to a different sort of bug... RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington

Re: State of the microserver HOWTO

2016-06-07 Thread Gary E. Miller
on startup. Chrony also puts the error bounds in the driftfile. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpwMykGFIar8.pg

Re: State of the microserver HOWTO

2016-06-07 Thread Gary E. Miller
to someting we might ship. > > > > Howz it look now? > > When asking that question, it is always a good idea to enclose a > copy. ;-) Same as the last one, but, see below. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller

Re: State of the microserver HOWTO

2016-06-07 Thread Gary E. Miller
still no luck RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpfAwGIUWdhj.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___

Re: My pre-1.0 wishlist

2016-06-06 Thread Gary E. Miller
are not logged in, you do not see the new issue button. > I have no GitLab account and wouldn’t have any stored cookies, etc. Send your bug report to this list, I, or someone else, will post it for you. RGDS GARY

✘burst/iburst

2016-06-10 Thread Gary E. Miller
ntp.conf man page, so I had to use the ntp classic man page. https://gitlab.com/NTPsec/ntpsec/issues/81 Some ratholes I do not want to go down now. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend

✘SSL cert

2016-06-10 Thread Gary E. Miller
)... 140.211.9.65 Connecting to www.ntpsec.org (www.ntpsec.org)|140.211.9.65|:443... connected. ERROR: The certificate of `www.ntpsec.org' is not trusted. I suggest moving to Let's Encrypt. Free, and good. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller

Re: ???SSL cert

2016-06-10 Thread Gary E. Miller
it an F. https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=ntpsec.org RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpgK_m1ZkrNI.pgp Description:

Re: ???SSL cert

2016-06-10 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Amar! On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 02:02:37 + Amar Takhar <v...@darkbeer.org> wrote: > On 2016-06-10 18:16 -0700, Gary E. Miller wrote: > > Yo Webmaster! > > > > Soemthing marginal about the ntpsec.org SSL cert, as seen by > > Wheezy: > > I have no

Re: Wonky NTP startup and the incremental-configuration problem

2016-06-09 Thread Gary E. Miller
# ntpd -N -g; watch ntpq -p Then put your NMEA refclock at the top of the ntp.conf and watch the 'fun'. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 3

Re: Shippable ntp.conf files for the HOWTO

2016-06-09 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Achim! On Thu, 09 Jun 2016 21:54:56 +0200 Achim Gratz <strom...@nexgo.de> wrote: > Gary E. Miller writes: > > # if you have no other local chimers to help NTP perform sanity > > checks # then you can use some public chimers from the NTP public > > pool: #

Re: Shippable ntp.conf files for the HOWTO

2016-06-09 Thread Gary E. Miller
is will screw up the PLL on restart. It also needs a fudge. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpywnJfXs65Q.pgp De

Re: Shippable ntp.conf files for the HOWTO

2016-06-09 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Achim! On Thu, 09 Jun 2016 21:12:52 +0200 Achim Gratz <strom...@nexgo.de> wrote: > Gary E. Miller writes: > > Even if they have no pool operators in the country, they should at > > least be able to use the country code to get the best possible. > > You can tal

Re: Shippable ntp.conf files for the HOWTO

2016-06-09 Thread Gary E. Miller
st challenge packet. And one RTT is certainly faster than 8 RTT. Eight RTT with 2 second delays in between: "the spacing between packets is about 2s" This is easy to see this way: # killall ntpd # ntpd -N -g ; watch ntpq -p RGDS GARY --

Re: [gpsd-dev] refclock 28 gone wacky on me

2016-06-09 Thread Gary E. Miller
s > > per second, 500 milliSec apart. > > How would an extra pulse at 500 ms turn into a 1 second error? Beats me. If I already knew I would have coded a way to prevent it. That is why I'm asking for debug data. RGDS GARY -----------

Re: Shippable ntp.conf files for the HOWTO

2016-06-09 Thread Gary E. Miller
If you are # not in the USA, then change the 'us' to your two letter country code. # server 0.us.pool.ntp.org iburst # server 1.us.pool.ntp.org iburst # server 2.us.pool.ntp.org iburst # server 3.us.pool.ntp.org iburst RGDS GARY ---

Re: [gpsd-dev] refclock 28 gone wacky on me

2016-06-09 Thread Gary E. Miller
t; I have one. I'm seeing a 10 microsecond pulse. One per second. Well, then not the case at hand. the current problem is two edges per second, 500 milliSec apart. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington A

Re: refclock 28 gone wacky on me

2016-06-09 Thread Gary E. Miller
about is the SHM1. I still need the debug output. Send me the result of this: # gpsd -nND 9 /dev/ttyXX |# fgrep PPS > gpsd.log RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com T

Re: refclock 28 gone wacky on me

2016-06-09 Thread Gary E. Miller
rcuitry output 2x in the same second. There is supposed to be logic to prevent it, and it used to work. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pg

Re: refclock 28 gone wacky on me

2016-06-09 Thread Gary E. Miller
ndalone mode. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpluXQz89Zkq.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ devel mailing list devel@ntpsec.org http://lists.ntp

Re: refclock 28 gone wacky on me

2016-06-09 Thread Gary E. Miller
ay off. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpAj9J6amaKd.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ devel mailing list dev

Re: refclock 28 gone wacky on me

2016-06-09 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Mike! Back on list since I think I see a real problem here. On Thu, 9 Jun 2016 21:41:32 -0400 Mike <bellyac...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 06/09/2016 09:26 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote: > > Yo Mike! > > > > On Thu, 9 Jun 2016 21:22:29 -0400 > > Mike <bellyac...@g

Re: refclock 28 gone wacky on me

2016-06-09 Thread Gary E. Miller
d, data. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpp843uWQgKx.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ devel mailing list devel@ntpsec.org ht

Re: [gpsd-dev] refclock 28 gone wacky on me

2016-06-09 Thread Gary E. Miller
40 I bet you would also see failures. Computation time in the GPS? RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpnAnqDeYGt7.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature __

Re: Shippable ntp.conf files for the HOWTO

2016-06-09 Thread Gary E. Miller
y code. # server 0.us.pool.ntp.org iburst # server 1.us.pool.ntp.org iburst # server 2.us.pool.ntp.org iburst # server 3.us.pool.ntp.org iburst RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite

Re: [gpsd-dev] GR-701W hangs on Pi-3

2016-06-03 Thread Gary E. Miller
r foot. Double that for out and back to > > 0.128 ohms/ft of USB cable. > > 0.128 * 3 * 0.7 is 0.268 V. So if you start with 5V, you will be > under 4.8. > > Adafruit also has 6 inch cables. :) I like my Tronsmart 20AWG cables, and I keep them as short as I can. RGDS GAR

Re: Microserver HOWTO, and gearing up for first test farm runs

2016-06-14 Thread Gary E. Miller
. So you'll need to run the farm for maybe up to two weeks to see how the three commpare. And, youll need some visualization software, otherwise you'll not see what the logs are telling you. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Mille

Re: Microserver HOWTO, and gearing up for first test farm runs

2016-06-14 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Eric! On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 16:06:47 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" <e...@thyrsus.com> wrote: > Gary E. Miller <g...@rellim.com>: > > > What I think I may see is that the drift over short GPS outages is > > > low enough to make the local clock as

Re: Test farm news

2016-06-14 Thread Gary E. Miller
t; There, that's exactly what I mean by valuable domain knowledge. One > of my to-dos is a white paper on NTP performance evaluation. This > needs to be in it. Well, I hope to fix some of the bugs first, so less needs to be explained. If I explain how it works now it just looks ntpd look bad.

Re: Test farm news

2016-06-13 Thread Gary E. Miller
imilar projects. Don't worry about what the graphs mean, you need a weeks data graphed to see the full effect. You have been running ntpd stats logging, right? Then going forward the restart effects will be jarring to you. RGDS GARY --------

Re: My pre-1.0 wishlist

2016-06-05 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Eric! On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 01:02:08 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" <e...@thyrsus.com> wrote: > Gary E. Miller <g...@rellim.com>: > > Use the console serial port. Then you can see bootup even before > > video init. > > Er, how? I don't see RS232 on that t

Re: State of the microserver HOWTO

2016-06-06 Thread Gary E. Miller
-optimal. First escalate to the pool for your country. Then escalate to some good local chimers. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good enough. > Please send me configurations. See below. RGDS GARY -------

Re: State of the microserver HOWTO

2016-06-06 Thread Gary E. Miller
ng statements with the comment: # You want this logging, it will be usefull later. If you add the logging early, then you have the data when you figure out you want it. If you wait until you want it then it is too late. RGDS GARY -------

Re: Testing: IPv6

2016-06-07 Thread Gary E. Miller
ch FUD on IPv6. Once you understand how IPv6 addresses break down into network and local parts the rest of the basics are just like IPv4. I suggest you get a free HE tunnel and join the monkey house. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E.

Re: My pre-1.0 wishlist

2016-06-07 Thread Gary E. Miller
tion or a captcha or > some equivalent pain in the ass, the spammers take over. Some sort of moderation of anonymous users would be sufficient. I sent a complaint to Gitlab. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington

Re: State of the microserver HOWTO

2016-06-07 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Achim! On Tue, 07 Jun 2016 21:13:56 +0200 Achim Gratz <strom...@nexgo.de> wrote: > Gary E. Miller writes: > > "On startup ntpd will take the first time it gets to set the system > > clock. If this first time is an imprecise clock, say derived from > >

Re: Shippable ntp.conf files for the HOWTO

2016-06-09 Thread Gary E. Miller
to get the best possible. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpjyAXhwzvWh.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Figures of merit for time servers

2016-05-28 Thread Gary E. Miller
uld work. But I've heard a lot of other OS are not so lucky. So maybe the best you can do is conditional compile it when needed? RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@r

Re: Impact of ARP lookup on local NTP traffic

2016-05-30 Thread Gary E. Miller
raphs in a day ot two. > I haven't found a simple way to print out the timer from the command > line. Which timer? The poll times are in 'ntpq -p' RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Be

Re: Impact of ARP lookup on local NTP traffic

2016-05-31 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Frank! On Tue, 31 May 2016 13:10:36 -0400 Frank Nicholas <fr...@nicholasfamilycentral.com> wrote: > > On May 31, 2016, at 12:18 PM, Gary E. Miller <g...@rellim.com> wrote: > > > > RFC 826 defines ARP. It makes no mention of how long the timeout > > sh

✘Waf fail

2016-05-31 Thread Gary E. Miller
print "IDDescription" ^ SyntaxError: Missing parentheses in call to 'print' RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E

✘Typo

2016-05-31 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Eric! Typo in the Pi Howto: > thast should have connected GPIO5 to the GPS 1PPS was absent the ^ s/b: that. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703

Re: Test farm status

2016-06-02 Thread Gary E. Miller
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Re: PPS over USB

2016-05-29 Thread Gary E. Miller
ed flag2 to use the falling > edge rather than fudging the time offset. > Or easier yet, you can change the pps_gpio parameters at boot to look at the other edge. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Su

Re: Test farm news

2016-06-14 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Eric! On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 17:36:27 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" <e...@thyrsus.com> wrote: > Gary E. Miller <g...@rellim.com>: > > > That's good enough that we can *and should* ignore all the > > > technical complexities of fudging and log interpretat

Re: burst/iburst

2016-06-17 Thread Gary E. Miller
ou do have to put iburst on each server line. I had a mix of types for a while, so I could see the differences. I can't say that I see any differences in performance, bu my network is not the kind burst/iburst is supposed to help. RGDS GARY

Re: [gpsd-dev] refclock 28 gone wacky on me

2016-06-19 Thread Gary E. Miller
It happesn, too many similar discussions at the same time. Which is why I encourage people to recap all the details in each message. > Many GPS chips seem to have a 100 ms timer that drifts slowly so the > offset within the second when the NMEA strings come out will slowly > drift then jump

Re: [gpsd-dev] refclock 28 gone wacky on me

2016-06-19 Thread Gary E. Miller
good to me. What looks off to you? NTP1 is offset under 1 millSec, NTP0 offset about 150 milliSec. Fine numbers. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend

Re: [gpsd-dev] refclock 28 gone wacky on me

2016-06-19 Thread Gary E. Miller
t seen and NMEA is picking up the second. Your ntpshmmon it misleading you. It is corrypted by a bug, that is now fixed. Rerun with the ntpshmmon which is now in git hear. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington

Re: [gpsd-dev] refclock 28 gone wacky on me

2016-06-19 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Mike! ` On Sun, 19 Jun 2016 15:59:16 -0400 Mike <bellyac...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 06/10/2016 03:17 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote: > > Yo Eric! > > > > On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 03:49:22 -0400 > > "Eric S. Raymond" <e...@thyrsus.com> wrote: > >

Re: The new refclock directive is implemented and documented

2016-06-27 Thread Gary E. Miller
ently flexible > that we'll never have a variant that's truly incompatible from ntpd's > point of view. So, let's call it the json driver. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703

Re: The new refclock directive is implemented and documented

2016-06-27 Thread Gary E. Miller
Maybe: gpsd_shm, and gpsd_json. Or: shm and json. There could be other gpsd variants in the future. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 5

Re: An ontology of clocks

2016-02-19 Thread Gary E. Miller
e clock time. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpewzNeNcJch.pgp Description: OpenPGP digit

Re: An ontology of clocks

2016-02-19 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Daniel! On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 18:12:52 -0500 Daniel Franke <dfoxfra...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2/19/16, Gary E. Miller <g...@rellim.com> wrote: > > No, resolution is the smallest time increment a clock can represent. > > Precision is a measure of the quality of the c

Re: New GPG key 0x477C7528 for secur...@ntpsec.org

2016-04-14 Thread Gary E. Miller
-14 [E] [expires: 2019-04-14] sig 477C7528 2016-04-14 NTPsec Security Reporting <secur...@ntpsec.org> Just signed by you, and I have no one to vouch for you. You should prolly get Eric and a few others to sign it. RGDS GARY -------

Re: Raspberry Pi HOWTO progress

2016-04-26 Thread Gary E. Miller
bout 'ntpq -p'. > > > > > > Suggested wording welcome. I've barely ever used it. > > > > See the gpsd time keeping howto, or just refer to it. > > On the TODO list Also here: gpsd-time-service-howto.txt Section: === NTP performance tuning === RGD

Re: Raspberry Pi HOWTO progress

2016-04-26 Thread Gary E. Miller
ove because a lot of people should not solder. I know a lot of techs that say no engineer knows how to solder. Your choice. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g.

Re: PPS over USB

2016-05-23 Thread Gary E. Miller
------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpKc7Xx0oHUx.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ devel mailing list devel@ntpsec.org http://lists.ntpsec.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: PPS over USB

2016-05-23 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Eric! On Mon, 23 May 2016 20:20:10 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" <e...@thyrsus.com> wrote: > Gary E. Miller <g...@rellim.com>: > > I think we gotta send less grunt work to Eric when we can do it > > ourselves. > > I'm sorry, but yes, you do nee

Re: Figures of merit for time servers

2016-05-23 Thread Gary E. Miller
ion (ADEV) data. Sadly it is specific to the Trimble style of cell tower reference clocks. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541

Re: [gpsd-dev] HOWTO: Security

2016-05-24 Thread Gary E. Miller
ng their code base. Their versions of things like kernels are really old. Leave it as a project for someone else. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com T

Re: [gpsd-dev] HOWTO: Security

2016-05-24 Thread Gary E. Miller
phia lawyers. Lawyers know logic. Buy her a steak. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588

Re: PPS over USB

2016-05-23 Thread Gary E. Miller
If someone posts some ntpd capable graphing code I'll make use of it. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpPjvFSQxxcC.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Accounts on my bastion host for test farm access

2016-05-23 Thread Gary E. Miller
lection so no need to manage even of the remote chimers for data. Then if someone could tie in a local Cs or Rb clock... RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rel

Re: [gpsd-dev] Draft Stratum 1 Microserver HOWTO is up

2016-05-20 Thread Gary E. Miller
a PPS. But also so easy to get wrong. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpQ0d0CoBWRb.pgp Descrip

Re: [gpsd-dev] Draft Stratum 1 Microserver HOWTO is up

2016-05-21 Thread Gary E. Miller
. The USB delay is much less than the sample interval on the USB 1.1 bus. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgplKiylRbYdI.pgp Descrip

Re: [gpsd-dev] New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-10 Thread Gary E. Miller
ou make that a git patch? I'm not a systemd guy, so you gotta make it easy for me. :-) RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpWjoxoQ1b

Re: I can haz Navisys GPS USB pucks, gr601w and gr701w

2016-05-14 Thread Gary E. Miller
response: catbert:/etc/fail2ban# ntpq -c "rv 0 version" dagwood dagwood.rellim.com: timed out, nothing received RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rell

Re: I can haz Navisys GPS USB pucks, gr601w and gr701w

2016-05-14 Thread Gary E. Miller
RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 > > siguser@jasper:~$ sudo nmap -sV -T4 -O -F --version-light > 192.168.56.101 [sudo] password for siguser: > > Starting Nma

Re: I can haz Navisys GPS USB pucks, gr601w and gr701w

2016-05-14 Thread Gary E. Miller
470:e815:0:225:90ff:fef3:55da rDNS record for 204.17.205.27: > >>> kong.rellim.com PORTSTATE SERVICE VERSION > >>> 123/udp open ntp NTP v4 (primary server) > >>> MAC Address: 00:25:90:F3:55:DB (Super Micro Computer) > RGDS GARY

✘git head broken on new Gentoo install

2016-05-16 Thread Gary E. Miller
gure import cmd_configure File "/usr/local/src/NTP/ntpsec/pylib/configure.py", line 154 print "IDDescription" ^ SyntaxError: Missing parentheses in call to 'print' RGDS GARY ----------

Re: Proposal for discussion - remove all Windows-port cruft

2016-05-13 Thread Gary E. Miller
I have talked to said it did not work yet. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgp3TucIcAfDc.pgp Description: Ope

Re: Reference clocks.

2016-05-03 Thread Gary E. Miller
r interfaces are common. But from what I can tell, IRIG is most important for relative syncronization, nothing related to UTC. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rel

Re: Reference clocks.

2016-05-03 Thread Gary E. Miller
Many better GPS LVC solutions. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgpXg9UrYSdAg.pgp Description: Open

Re: Reference clocks.

2016-05-03 Thread Gary E. Miller
few microSec. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 pgp8P0nIsGnCP.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

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