Re: Python PEP8 online checker

o me the Pi 3B+ should work fine? RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? &quo

Re: [ntp:hackers] u-blox reference clock driver

Yo Achim! On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 19:28:32 +0200 Achim Gratz via devel wrote: > Gary E. Miller via devel writes: > > We probably need to work with linuxpps, but we may have an easier > > time working with the folks that maintain the Raspberry Pi fork. > > The last time I a

Re: LKM Timemark Driver

eep beating that dead horse. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? "If you can’t measure it, you can’t improve it.&qu

✘warning: the use of `tmpnam_r' is dangerous

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Re: LKM Timemark Driver

Yo Achim! On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 21:43:03 +0200 Achim Gratz via devel wrote: > Gary E. Miller via devel writes: > >> That doesn't really matter, it is still about three orders of > >> magnitude improvement over what we get today for the error that > >> matters. >

Re: LKM Timemark Driver

Yo Achim! On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 22:56:37 +0200 Achim Gratz via devel wrote: > Gary E. Miller via devel writes: > >> So do I, in fact I run between 140ns to 240ns of "average jitter" > >> pretty consistently across five machines (three different rasPi and >

Re: Merge Request processing

the team. Yuop. Thanks for your MRs! RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas

✘PYTHONPATH is not set

uot;--- PYTHONPATH is set, " - "this may mask or cause library-related problems ---") +print("--- PYTHONPATH is not set, " + "loading the Python ntp library may be troublesome ---") RGDS GARY ------

Re: ✘warning: the use of `tmpnam_r' is dangerous

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Re: [ntp:hackers] u-blox reference clock driver

hecked it out? RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? "If you can’t meas

Re: LKM Timemark Driver

imestamp as soon as it gets it. gpsd would have to delay, hoping to get a TM2, then send the timestamp deleayd. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas?

Re: LKM Timemark Driver

We need the PPS for traceability and camparability. To prove this is better or worse. We'll need a lot of A/B. > Or, as it's a LKM, anyone can add what they want. Oh, yeah, everyone can recompile kernel modules. :-) > But the Timemark mode gives the best results... Implementing that > first. Looking forward to it! RGDS GARY

Re: LKM Timemark Driver

move onto what we can determine experimentally. > I'm wanting numbers. We all do! As soon as you have any LKM patches against the RasPi 4.14 kernel I'll test them. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington A

Re: LKM Timemark Driver

Yo MLewis! On Mon, 27 Aug 2018 19:07:52 -0400 MLewis via devel wrote: > Gary, > > On 27/08/2018 6:38 PM, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote: > > Yo MLewis! > > > > On Mon, 27 Aug 2018 18:24:01 -0400 > > MLewis via devel wrote: > > > > The key t

Re: git/gitlab merge request lesson please

, then do a git stash. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? "If you can’t measure it, you can’t improve

✘ntpd segfault

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Re: ✘ntpd segfault

Yo Eric! On Thu, 30 Aug 2018 15:35:46 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > Gary E. Miller via devel : > > I'm seeing something new and odd with NTPsec git head. When I kill > > the old ntpd to start a new one, this is in my logs: > > > > [834374.

Re: ✘ntpd segfault

not be. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? "If you can’t measure it, you can’t improve it." - Lord Kelvin p

Re: ✘ntpd segfault

Yo Ian! On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 12:59:09 -0500 Ian Bruene via devel wrote: > On 08/31/2018 09:44 AM, Ian Bruene wrote: > > > > > > On 08/30/2018 11:50 PM, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote: > >> Oh, most certainly on shutdown. > > > > Do you have a recipe

Re: ✘ntpd segfault

Yo Ian! On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 09:44:43 -0500 Ian Bruene via devel wrote: > On 08/30/2018 11:50 PM, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote: > > Oh, most certainly on shutdown. > > Do you have a recipe to reproduce? You need to be using the GPS driver. This line in ntp.conf: refcl

Re: LKM Timemark Driver

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Re: LKM Timemark Driver

need to run the u-blox > refclock? No kernel side features are need to run u-blox as a refclock. KPPS helps a lot. I suspect you meant is this all that is needed for Timemark mode? RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim

✘gcc 8.2.0 warnings

id *, const char *, ...)' [-Wcast-function-type] leapsec_dump(pt, (leapsec_dumper)fprintf, stdout); ^ ../../tests/ntpd/leapsec.c: In function 'TEST_leapsec_addDynamic_': ../../tests/ntpd/leapsec.c:606:19: warning: cast between incompatible function types from 'int (*)(FILE *

Re: ✘ntpd segfault

Yo Eric! On Thu, 30 Aug 2018 15:35:46 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > Gary E. Miller via devel : > > I'm seeing something new and odd with NTPsec git head. When I kill > > the old ntpd to start a new one, this is in my logs: > > > > [834374.

Re: ✘ntpd segfault

Yo Eric! > > > Gary E. Miller via devel : > > > > I'm seeing something new and odd with NTPsec git head. When I > > > > kill the old ntpd to start a new one, this is in my logs: > > > > > > > > [834374.559668] ntpd[8904]: segfa

Re: ✘gcc 8.2.0 warnings

Yo Matthew! > > On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 01:35:14 + > Matthew Selsky wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 06:21:49PM -0700, Gary E. Miller via devel > > wrote: > > > > > I recently updated to gcc 8.2.0. Of course it leads to new > > > warnings

Re: ✘ntpd segfault

Yo Eric! > > Gary E. Miller via devel : > > > I'm seeing something new and odd with NTPsec git head. When I > > > kill the old ntpd to start a new one, this is in my logs: > > > > > > [834374.559668] ntpd[8904]: segfault at 88 ip 5581071fb466

Re: ✘ntpd segfault

> You think the core-dump is happening during shutdown? Oh, most certainly on shutdown. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588

Re: Additional pps-gpio

es gpsd sees two serial ports and tries to use both as GPS. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos.

Re: Additional pps-gpio

Yo Achim! On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 22:04:42 +0100 Achim Gratz via devel <devel@ntpsec.org> wrote: > Gary E. Miller via devel writes: > >> As noted before I've been wondering how to get a second (or third) > >> gps-ppio device configured. > > > > gpsd would hav

Re: Additional pps-gpio

Yo Achim! On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 22:26:07 +0100 Achim Gratz via devel <devel@ntpsec.org> wrote: > Gary E. Miller via devel writes: > > Sure it does. gpsd works with the /dev/ppsX devices, which are > > kernel timestamped. I use that on all my RasPi GPS. > > Yeah.

Re: Additional pps-gpio

would expect this to work, but it also jsut give you one /dev/ppsX: dtoverlay=pps-gpio,gpiopin=18,4 So the problem is with the RasPi kernel. Go ahead and nag them for us. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW W

Re: ✘Clockmaker: This function should not be run as root.

Yo Eric! On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 23:41:52 -0500 "Eric S. Raymond" <e...@thyrsus.com> wrote: > Gary E. Miller via devel <devel@ntpsec.org>: > > To follow up on this, the user had ./clockmaker --config fail to > > install scons. Probably failed earlier. No war

Re: â Clockmaker:Mime-Version: 1.0

PATH, but not 'scons'. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? "If you can’t measure it, you can’t improve it." - Lord Kelvin pgptPVzUoGCCO

Re: More gitlab quirks: What is this trying to tell me?

g list > devel@ntpsec.org > http://lists.ntpsec.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588

✘clockmaker

is likely not in the users path. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? &qu

Re: ✘Clockmaker: This function should not be run as root.

Yo All! On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 16:07:51 -0800 "Gary E. Miller via devel" <devel@ntpsec.org> wrote: > clockmaker is giving a user warnings like: > This function should not be run as root. > > But he has no idea which command in clockmaker. > > Can we g

✘Clockmaker: This function should not be run as root.

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Fw: [Git][NTPsec/ntpsec][master] Fix recipe for ntpsec.pth

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Re: ✘https://doc.ntpsec.org

ile, commit it to git, and get it to publish. LE sees the file, gives me the public/private key. They I have to use the gitlab UI to install the new cert. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR

Re: ✘https://doc.ntpsec.org

deal with. This will take a while... RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est verita

Re: git quirk

origin/refgenfix # git status On branch master Your branch is up to date with 'origin/master'. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588

Re: https://doc.ntpsec.org

er running on the MX server. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? "If you can’t measure it, you can’t im

Fw: [LEAPSECS] current / future state of UT1 access?

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Re: Python shebang policy

ault: /usr/lib/python- exec/python3.4/python3] # python3.5 [...] --python=PYTHON python binary to be used [Default: /usr/bin/python3.5] Or do you want something different than what it does now? RGDS GARY ---------

Re: -g broken

iling list? Probably, I suspect NTP Classic also has the bug. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est ve

Re: Python shebang policy

pstream into NTPsec. I suspect some other distros might want to use it, but many will not. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? &

Re: [LEAPSECS] current / future state of UT1 access?

the typical jitter of NTP on the net. For now. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? "If you can’t measure it, you can’t improve it." -

Re: Testing Python3

et correctly and NTPsec installed for that version. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas?

✘-g broken?

: 579076096.001 I just pulled git head, same thing. So somehow -g got broken? RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas

Re: -g broken

8a sys_peer It might be just ntpmon hanging. When I start a second ntpmon they both wake up. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588

Re: -g broken

onfig file. Surprise. With that, it no longer crashes. It just marks ALL chimers and refclocks as invalid. Then hangs. See logs below. Also no way to put panicgate in the ntp.conf. At least the man page does not say how. RGDS GARY -----

Re: -g broken

Yo Hal! On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 17:43:43 -0700 "Gary E. Miller via devel" <devel@ntpsec.org> wrote: > > [Aside, the big jump stuff should log the full date. The year is > > missing above.] > I think esr just patched that? The logs below confirm t

✘https://doc.ntpsec.org

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Re: -g broken

vides? I want my clock not stuck in 2134. -g alone does not fix that. 'tos minsane 3' fixes it, unless I'm offline, which is pretty common for RasPi. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Be

Re: -g broken

; +stepback+ _stepback_ | +stepfwd+ _stepfwd_ | +stepout+ _stepout_]:: Ugh, improving this is gonna be hard... RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 54

Re: -g broken

load is in progress. Not sure ow that applies to my case? RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos.

Re: -g broken

Yeah, depends on your distro. They usually get it right, I'm worried about the corner cases when it does not. Like on first boot from a raw install. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite

Re: -g broken

n FAQ added, to avoid this common issue. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas?

Re: Python shebang policy

ter to use at runtime. > We think the choice that minimizes overall pain, and directs it to > the party best able to cope, is clear. We choose (b). Minimizes your pain, not mine. > Any comment or objection? Yup, I object. RGDS GARY ---------

Re: Python shebang policy

Yo Eric! On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 12:58:28 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" <e...@thyrsus.com> wrote: > Gary E. Miller via devel <devel@ntpsec.org>: > > On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 11:30:33 -0400 (EDT) > > "Eric S. Raymond via devel" <devel@ntpsec.org> wrote: >

Re: -gMime-Version: 1.0

cd build ../configure make && make install Same as always. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas libe

Re: ✘-g broken?

Yo Eric! On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 22:08:18 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" <e...@thyrsus.com> wrote: > Gary E. Miller via devel <devel@ntpsec.org>: > > I just pulled git head, same thing. So somehow -g got broken? > > Looks like. I recomment bisection - with an erro

Re: -g broken

ing at the log. Feel free to call the bug anything you want if you can fix it. > Was there a successful jump in the log file? You tell me, below is all I have for one test cycle. I have many similar test cycles logs. RGDS GARY ---------

Re: pipefail doesn't work on NetBSD or FreeBSD

hat > either. Yup. > PS: The bash version didn't work on NetBSD or FreeBSD either. Yup. That is why I felt OK to change it. I was not worried about breaking something already broken. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rell

Re: pipefail doesn't work on NetBSD or FreeBSD

ed: $ export foo=3 $ (export foo=4; echo $foo) $ echo $foo Notice I have export twice? You just have it once. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g..

Re: pipefail doesn't work on NetBSD or FreeBSD

gt; > I tried it. FOO=xx inside () gets dropped after the ) Maybe: export FOO=xx ?? RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588

Re: pipefail doesn't work on NetBSD or FreeBSD

o) > 4 > sh-4.4$ echo $foo > 3 > sh-4.4$ I see no 'export' in your example. Try: $ export foo=3 $ (export foo=4; echo $foo) $ echo $foo RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend

Re: KillMime-Version: 1.0

nst int" would be as constant as a #define... I just looked at gpsd, much more work needed on that project to kill the VLAs. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g.

✘Kill all VLAs

packetPtr[totalLength]; ^~~~ Should be easy to fix. Anyone want to try? RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas

Re: ✘Kill all VLAs

said he removed both of them a few seconds after I sent my > email. Don't take my word for it. Please check. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com

Re: ✘Kill all VLAs

Yo Project Manager! Hal fixed the last two yesterday. On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 13:32:15 -0700 "Mark Atwood, Project Manager" wrote: > Looks straightforward enough. Ian? > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 12:02 PM Gary E. Miller via devel > wrote: > > > Yo All! > >

Re: ntpleapfetch broken on FreeBSD 11.2 or NetBSD 8.0

Yo Hal! On Sun, 04 Nov 2018 14:46:57 -0800 Hal Murray via devel wrote: > I doubt if ntpleapfetch ever worked. I don't use it. It always worked for me. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suit

Re: ublox refclock

Yo Udo! On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 06:11:55 +0200 Udo van den Heuvel via devel wrote: > How or when will the ublox refclock be added to ntpsec? Is there any point to it without the matching kernel driver? RGDS GARY --- Gar

Re: ublox refclock

est, code, repeat. When it works for you, and the PPS patches are in the kernel, tell us how it works and we'll patch ntpd. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.

Re: ublox refclock

d_product=239; USB provides > power and data connection. How do you get the PPS into the host? PPS over USB is hardly good to 1 millisecond. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Ben

Re: new ntpleapfetch

not even every Linux, uses systemd. NTPsec needs generic solutions. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas libe

Re: PYTOGO

md? I looked more at Go programs on gentoo. Looks like 75% of them are fully static. The rest needed libpthread and libc. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g..

Re: Anybody use ENABLE_DEBUG_TIMING?

t something appropriate. > > > > > > -- > > These are my opinions. I hate spam. > > > > > > > > ___ > > devel mailing list > > devel@ntpsec.org > > http://lists.ntpsec.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > >

Re: PYTOGO

Yo Achim! On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:17:53 +0200 Achim Gratz via devel wrote: > Gary E. Miller via devel writes: > > I've been working with RHEL for a few months now. Their insistence > > on one version of every library is killing them. When just one > > package needs an o

Re: ntpd: program structure

it might be best to just let Go the threading for us in one main program. Go can do really clever and easy parallelism. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.co

Re: lockclock

lients. Then a PTP client can use NTP to server time to not PTP clients. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberab

Re: [Git][NTPsec/ntpsec][master] 2 commits: More NTS requirements.

ease pick previously unused first names. Alice and Charlie are standard terms of cryptography, but are being used differently here in a confusing way. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend,

Re: Let's get moving on NTS

poses a simple means to keep generating new short term keys fomr old keys, so no need for further communication between the NTS-KE and NTPD. Just once is enough. Not to say that it can't, or shouldn't, get a bit more complicated, but it is not required. RGDS GARY ----

Re: Let's get moving on NTS

.) is still undefined. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? "If you

Re: Let's get moving on NTS

ts. As required by the Proposed RFC. Requiring a data center to completely rekey on startup would create chaos. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com T

Re: Let's get moving on NTS

Yo Ian! On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 17:19:22 -0600 Ian Bruene via devel wrote: > On 01/06/2019 05:11 PM, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote: > > Which is a big doc, so I'm still not sure which part we are talking > > about here... > > /devel/nts.doc is a new, and currently very

Re: Let's get moving on NTS

cul-de-sac that doesn't match the actual > requirements. +1 RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. --

Re: Let's get moving on NTS

Yo Ian! On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 17:01:08 -0600 Ian Bruene via devel wrote: > On 01/06/2019 04:57 PM, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote: > >> That is the one option that has been universally shot down as > >> bad. > > I'm not sure what option you refer to. Best in discuss

Re: First round of my stupid questions about NTS

ght improvement. > Note: Answers by reply email will be good. Answers edited into > nts.adoc would be even better. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 54

Re: First round of my stupid questions about NTS

ating Alpha and Bravo as the same entity. And ignoring they are also Delta. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas l

Re: First round of my stupid questions about NTS

.org/wiki/Assume_a_can_opener RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? "If you can’t m

Re: First round of my stupid questions about NTS

over time. Things like encryption algorithm and hash algorithm will change over time. Also key sizes. So, how does the NTS-KE and NTPD server know what cookie format(s) are in use? How does the NTS-KE server know which cookie formats to issue for which NTPD servers? RGDS GARY ---

Re: First round of my stupid questions about NTS

ow how NTS-KE and NTPD servers and clients interoperate. Partly as a way to help us partition things in the code. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.co

Re: First round of my stupid questions about NTS

m pooling/load balancing? RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? "If you can’t measure it, you can’t impro

Re: First round of my stupid questions about NTS

. They contain S2C and C2S which depend > on the TLS sesson key. I see no such requirement in the Proposed RFC. My expectation is exactly the reverse. Did I miss something? RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW

Re: First round of my stupid questions about NTS

o > change the size of a field. Not likely, but worth thinking about. Not likely? I bet it happens all the time as support for other brands of NTS-KE and NTPD are added. Also as the threat models evolve. Once again, look at the SSL/TLS evolution for how frequent this will be. RGDS GARY

Re: First round of my stupid questions about NTS

The second part. I find no support for your second statement in the Proposed RFC. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588

Re: First round of my stupid questions about NTS

that sentence more than one way... > It's also unlikely for the initial server, but reasonably likely for > the future. I'm having trouble expanding your reuse of 'it' to mean different things... RGDS GARY --- Gary E

Re: First round of my stupid questions about NTS

d RFC calls it: the current master key. This master key is used to make new C2S and S2C as required, on demand. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541

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