Re: [riot-devel] Testing Task Force

2015-04-16 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi! > there were ~40 new builds opened yesterday [1] Sorry for the maybe stupid question, but how do zou see this? I find the Travis UI pretty confusing (and slow). Cheers, Oleg -- panic("mother..."); linux-2.2.16/drivers/block/cpqarray.c pgpknq8uoNfkp.pgp Description: PGP signature

[riot-devel] Testing Task Force

2015-04-15 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hey folks from the testing task force, does anyone know what exactly is currently wrong with Travis? I have the impression that it didn't run a single test for RIOT today. E.g. https://github.com/RIOT-OS/RIOT/pull/2764 is pending for 24h hours now. Cheers, Oleg -- The bad thing about Haskell jok

[riot-devel] Another good argument against function macros

2015-04-15 Thread Oleg Hahm
Dear RIOTers, I just read about a buffer overflow in X.Org caused by a macro in a header file [1]. While the bug was fixed in 2013 it still may cause bugs in other software that uses this macro and has not been recompiled. If we envision that single libraries may be updated in future IoT scenario

Re: [riot-devel] oonf

2015-04-13 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Martin, > I want to test some stuff using the oonf pkg[1]. > It is cloned and successfully and patched with the provided RIOT > compatibility patches, but then it fails on compile with: > `./pkg/oonf_api/oonf_api/src-api/common/autobuf.c:84:3: warning: implicit > declaration of function ‘getpa

[riot-devel] ISPO Challenge 2015

2015-04-13 Thread Oleg Hahm
Dear RIOTers, after the big success of the Internet of Plants team at the Open IoT Challenge this year, maybe someone has a cool idea to participate in the IPSO Challenge 2015 [1]. Cheers, Oleg [1] http://challenge.ipso-alliance.org/ipso-challenge-2015 -- What did the one smtp server say to the

Re: [riot-devel] NSTF meeting - detail questions

2015-04-13 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi again! I extended the doodle [1] by another week (the last of April). Maybe we find a better matching date then. Cheers, Oleg [1] http://doodle.com/hst7m64madhhyxnb -- /* * For moronic filesystems that do not allow holes in file. * We may have to extend the file. */ linux-2.4.0-

Re: [riot-devel] NSTF meeting - detail questions

2015-04-13 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi! > I know I'm late in the doodle, but tomorrow is about the only day this month > I can't move other stuff. But I'd really like to join. > > Any option to not do it tomorrow? Actually, I would also love to have Matthias and/or Thomas involved in this meeting to benefit from their many years o

[riot-devel] NSTF meeting - detail questions

2015-04-08 Thread Oleg Hahm
Dear redesigning IOTlers, thanks to the tremendous work by the RIOT community and most notably by Martine and Hauke, the new network stack is almost there. There were some details here and there after the last meeting and during discussions on GitHub that still need some (additional) thoughts. So,

Re: [riot-devel] Notification: Biweekly virtual meeting @ Every 2 weeks from 10am to 11am on Wednesday (RIOT Events)

2015-04-08 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi! > please unlock the etherpad Sorry, as usual... Done. Cheers, Oleg -- I had an Ethernet joke, but somebody else told it at the same time. So I exponentially backed off and tried again. pgpF7OviiDBK3.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ devel mai

Re: [riot-devel] Notification: Biweekly virtual meeting @ Every 2 weeks from 10am to 11am on Wednesday (RIOT Events)

2015-04-08 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi, the meeting will start in about 5 minutes at http://placecam.de/call.php?c=VBYEpXi43MZ2MOrV~pegsMm6Z7woUbw.VRY0Qxal2pE- Minutes will be at http://riot.pad.spline.de/11 Cheers, Oleg -- Fragmentation jokes... ...are always... ...told in parts. pgpPLWvOEOSF5.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [riot-devel] Notification: Biweekly virtual meeting @ Every 2 weeks from 10am to 11am on Wednesday (RIOT Events)

2015-04-07 Thread Oleg Hahm
> > 2015-04-07 20:24 GMT+02:00 Martine Lenders : > > > Hi, > > in general I prefer 2pm, but tomorrow I'm not able to attend at this time. > > > > Cheers, > > Martine > > Am 07.04.2015 10:08 schrieb "Oleg Hahm" : > > > >> H

Re: [riot-devel] Notification: Biweekly virtual meeting @ Every 2 weeks from 10am to 11am on Wednesday (RIOT Events)

2015-04-07 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi, anyone opposed to permanently rescheduling this call to 2pm CEST? Cheers, Oleg On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 08:00:13AM +, Google Calendar wrote: > This is a notification for: > > Title: Biweekly virtual meeting > Developer discussions. Remote participation will be provided. > When: Every 2 w

[riot-devel] [alex.ar...@gmail.com: Re: [Roll] Looking for Linux implementation of RPL for interop testing]

2015-04-06 Thread Oleg Hahm
Dear RIOTers, I thought this might be of interest for some of you (which are not subscribed to the ROLL ML). Cheers, Oleg -- printk("??? No FDIV bug? Lucky you...\n"); linux-2.2.16/include/asm-i386/bugs.h --- Begin Message --- Hi Ralph and Michael, On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 02:40:41PM -04

Re: [riot-devel] broken archives?

2015-04-02 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Craig! Am Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 12:19:56PM -0400 schrieb Craig Younkins: > > Mostly because I don't think that paying money makes anything more secure. > > I would argue it makes it marginally more secure - you probably aren't > getting MITM'd by a script kiddie at the coffee shop, which immedi

Re: [riot-devel] broken archives?

2015-04-02 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi! Am Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 11:49:27AM -0400 schrieb Craig Younkins: > > Better now? > > No. The new cacert.org - signed cert is not in the root trust store of most > browsers - http://wiki.cacert.org/InclusionStatus > I think you'll need to purchase one unfortunately. Sorry, I'm not gonna pay f

Re: [riot-devel] broken archives?

2015-04-02 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi! > Can we fix the SSL certificate? Better now? Cheers, Oleg -- The problem with TCPIP jokes is that when I tell them, all I want is an ACK but usually get FINs and RSTs pgp4QPAADc8dP.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ devel mailing list devel@rio

Re: [riot-devel] broken archives?

2015-04-02 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi! > Can we fix the SSL certificate? I have to dig into SNI, but it's on my list. Cheers, Oleg -- The worst thing about Perl jokes is that next morning you can't understand why they seemed so funny. pgpSZ9vYNVI9q.pgp Description: PGP signature ___

Re: [riot-devel] broken archives?

2015-04-02 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi! > I am also seeing this for http://riot-os.org/pipermail/devel/. The > root site (http://riot-os.org) still works. The first link is indeed not supposed to work. > I think the URL is configured wrong in mailman. > https://lists.riot-os.org/pipermail/devel/ works for me. Yes, you're right. I

Re: [riot-devel] Build issue on Windows (8.1)

2015-04-01 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Murat! > I did not see any issue about picture. I have re-added same picture(address) > to page again. Funny! Yesterday the picture was showing a red car... Thanks, Oleg -- The sad thing about IPv6 jokes is that almost no one understands them and no one is using them yet. pgpXgw6z1_u4r.pg

[riot-devel] Force Push on master

2015-03-31 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi, FYI there was a mishap by an anonymous RIOT maintainer this morning which got fixed by a force push to restore the correction version RIOT master. Therefore, I had to remerge https://github.com/RIOT-OS/RIOT/pull/2742 and Cenk's merge commit got lost. Sorry for any inconvenience! Cheers, Oleg

Re: [riot-devel] Build issue on Windows (8.1)

2015-03-31 Thread Oleg Hahm
S/RIOT/wiki/Build-RIOT-on-Windows-OS > > Regards, > Murat. > > -Original Message- > From: devel [mailto:devel-boun...@riot-os.org] On Behalf Of Oleg Hahm > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 5:26 PM > To: RIOT OS kernel developers > Subject: Re: [riot-devel] Build issue on W

Re: [riot-devel] Wakaama & LWM2M

2015-03-26 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Benjamin! > Actually, it is dual-licensed under EPL and EDL (BSD). See > https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.wakaama Maybe that's a dumb question, but it doesn't seem obvious to me: does this dual-license allow to just chose between the two licenses? Cheers, Oleg -- The bad thin

Re: [riot-devel] Wakaama & LWM2M

2015-03-26 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Benjamin! > Sorry if I missed some previous conversations, but what's wrong with BSD > 3-clause? Nothing, but Wakaama is now licensed under EPL. Cheers, Oleg -- DPRINTK("FAILURE, CAPUT\n"); linux-2.6.6/drivers/net/tokenring/ibmtr.c pgpc5ynNyN5by.pgp Description: PGP signature _

Re: [riot-devel] Wakaama & LWM2M

2015-03-26 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi! Sorry, forgot my last post, used the wrong link. Cheers, Oleg Am Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 11:30:09AM -0500 schrieb Oleg Hahm: > Hi Ludwig! > > > are they willing to support this endeavor in the form of a license change? > > I don't think it's necessary, it se

Re: [riot-devel] Wakaama & LWM2M

2015-03-26 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Ludwig! > are they willing to support this endeavor in the form of a license change? I don't think it's necessary, it seems to be licensed under EDL (which is a BSD license) and not the GPL incompatible EPL. Cheers, Oleg -- /* * Hash table gook.. */ linux-2.4.0-test2/fs/buffer.c

Re: [riot-devel] Upcoming ETSI Plugtests

2015-03-26 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi! > * July 17-19, 2015 - 6tisch in Prague co-located with IETF 93 Some more detailed information about this plugtest and the roadmap towards this event is available as part of the 6tisch slides: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/92/slides/slides-92-6tisch-2.pdf, slide 51 ff. Cheers,

[riot-devel] [y...@isoc.org: [92all] Live video stream available - Re: Reminder: IETF 92 Lunch Host Speaker Series Tomorrow]

2015-03-25 Thread Oleg Hahm
FYI -- /* vsprintf.c -- Lars Wirzenius & Linus Torvalds. */ * * Wirzenius wrote this portably, Torvalds fucked it up :-) */ linux-2.2.16/lib/vsprintf.c --- Begin Message --- FYI, if you want to invite other people who are not in Dallas to view this session, you can direct them to: htt

Re: [riot-devel] Updated Invitation: Biweekly virtual meeting @ Wed Mar 25, 2015 2pm - 3pm (RIOT Events)

2015-03-25 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi! > we will start with the bi-weekly developer meeting now. The PlaceCam link > for joining is the following: > > http://placecam.de/call.php?c=lmakKMrDG8a35aIBNqLBvOnApExkKFntj9xXawGNgTc- The corresponding Etherpad with the Minutes is online at http://riot.pad.spline.de/10 Cheers, Oleg -- T

[riot-devel] Upcoming ETSI Plugtests

2015-03-24 Thread Oleg Hahm
Dear reading IOTlers, the next upcoming Plugtests organized by ETSI which are of interest for RIOT are announced as follows: * July 17-19, 2015 - 6tisch in Prague co-located with IETF 93 * October 30 - November 1, 2015 - 6lo in Yokohama co-located with IETF 94 * March 2016

Re: [riot-devel] Riot Software Update

2015-03-24 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Ludwig! > yes, we agreed that in order to get software updates we need a foundation > for activating new firmware images first. > The working assumption for the first incarnation/iteration of this is that > an image has been saved to some memory of the device already. Okay, basically my questi

Re: [riot-devel] Riot Software Update

2015-03-24 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi! > I see the upgrade distribution process as mostly independent from the > software infrastructure needed to activate new images. Do I get this right, that the OTA task force is excluding the OTA part of the software update from their work? Or are you just considering the single hop case? Che

Re: [riot-devel] Notification: Biweekly virtual meeting @ Every 2 weeks from 10am to 11am on Wednesday (RIOT Events)

2015-03-24 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Peter! > just to avoid confusion: Didn't we agree to have the meeting tomorrow at 2pm > CET? Thanks for asking: Yes, we did, but I think no one cared to update the calendar. PlaceCam will be on at 2pm CET! Cheers, Oleg -- I'm working on a bittorrent joke, but I only have about 30% and nobody

Re: [riot-devel] Removing thirdparty repositories

2015-03-23 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi! Okay, I removed it from the organization on Github. To be on the safe side I just moved it to my personal repos. Cheers, Oleg -- printk(KERN_DEBUG "%s: Flex. T...\n", DRV_NAME); linux-2.6.6/drivers/net/wan/dscc4.c pgpPOJlgt5sAT.pgp Description: PGP signature ___

Re: [riot-devel] Iotivity, AllJoyn, Thread, Ipso Alliance

2015-03-23 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi! At least for IoTivity it should be fairly simple to port it to RIOT according to the response I got on their mailing list: http://lists.iotivity.org/pipermail/iotivity-dev/2015-March/000600.html The only problem I see is the incompatible license of their implementation. (Btw. the Contiki por

Re: [riot-devel] Repository for Docker builds

2015-03-22 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Joakim! > > This somehow disappeared from my radar. I think you need to give me admin > > access to the repository in order to move it to the RIOT organization (and > > rename it to riotdocker). > > What do you mean? > If you create a new empty riotdocker repo in the RIOT organization we > can

Re: [riot-devel] Repository for Docker builds

2015-03-21 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi! > > Also, I need to have an organisation owner (Oleg, Kaspar, Emmanuel or > > Matthias Wählisch) create the repo since maintainers do not have the proper > > access to do it. > > Sure, I can do so. Let's wait if no one objects against the proposed name. This somehow disappeared from my radar

[riot-devel] Removing thirdparty repositories

2015-03-21 Thread Oleg Hahm
Dear rousing IoTlers, since we don't need the thirdparty repositories for CPUs and boards any more for quite some time, I think we should finally remove them. Any objections? Can anyone with some experience with the Cortex ports take a look at the PRs in these repos that are still open and see if

Re: [riot-devel] Biweekly virtual meeting

2015-03-21 Thread Oleg Hahm
Dear radioing IoTlers, the next regular bi-weekly PlaceCam meeting would usually be scheduled next Wednesday at 10am CET. However, since we have some potential participants in other timezones (including me), I would like to ask if we could reschedule the meeting to 2pm CET again? This would be 8am

Re: [riot-devel] Iotivity, AllJoyn, Thread, Ipso Alliance

2015-03-21 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi! I just realized that I'll probably learn something about IoTivity and AllJoyn today at the T2TRG meeting: https://github.com/t2trg/2015-ietf92/blob/master/agenda.md I guess there won't be now audio stream, but at least the slides should be online later this day. > Concerning IoTBase, I woul

Re: [riot-devel] More convenient access to the IoT-LAB from a RIOT application

2015-03-20 Thread Oleg Hahm
Kaspar, > How can I select some nodes? The current version of this Makefile only allows you to specify the number, the type, and the testbed site of the nodes. I don't know how sensible it would be to add a more concrete node selection process to this feature. You can pretty easily specify the co

Re: [riot-devel] Benchmarks

2015-03-19 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Simon! > Yes I tried to compile the rpl_udp example for the samr21-xpro but it did > not have enough RAM. Even with RPL in non-storing mode and a very small > routing table it would not fit. Well, in non-storing you basically don't need any routing table (except for the root node), but still i

Re: [riot-devel] Iotivity, AllJoyn, Thread, Ipso Alliance

2015-03-19 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Baptiste! > This question is not particularly about Riot but it makes sense to ask you > since future Riot device might use one of this high level protocol > (Iotivity, AllJoyn, Thread, Ipso Alliance). > What do you think about them? In your opinion, which one will be mostly > used? To be hon

Re: [riot-devel] NFC & Atmel AT86RF232B

2015-03-19 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Thomas! > I got me some NXP pn532 modules some time ago as I heard there is work > on specifying 6LoWPAN over ISO 14443 (which NFC is part of). Indeed, there is. See https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-6lo-nfc-00 > Sadly, I didn’t come too far with the driver, as it includes a (more) comp

[riot-devel] More convenient access to the IoT-LAB from a RIOT application

2015-03-18 Thread Oleg Hahm
Dear rewewing IoTlers, I just opened a pull request in RIOT that should ease the work with RIOT applications on the IoT-LAB testbed a little bit: https://github.com/RIOT-OS/RIOT/pull/2640 Including the proposed Makefile like include $(RIOTBASE)/dist/Makefile.iot-lab in an application's Makefil

Re: [riot-devel] Virtual GSOC Meeting

2015-03-18 Thread Oleg Hahm
Dear GSOC enthusiasts, please find the minutes from our meeting at http://pad.spline.de/Ouide7Nzd8 Cheers, Oleg -- panic("If this is a 64-bit machine, please try a 64-bit kernel.\n"); linux-2.6.6/arch/parisc/kernel/inventory.c pgpYdZZJZK5WD.pgp Description: PGP signature __

Re: [riot-devel] Virtual GSOC Meeting

2015-03-18 Thread Oleg Hahm
Oops, synchronization problem I guess. We'll use this link then! Am Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 02:01:57PM +0100 schrieb Hauke Petersen: > Hi everyone, > > as promised we will have a dedicated GSOC meeting now. To join please follow > this link: > > http://placecam.de/call.php?c=lmakKMrDG8a35aIBNqLBvOn

Re: [riot-devel] Virtual GSOC Meeting

2015-03-18 Thread Oleg Hahm
Dear GSOC participants and mentors, please join the meeting at http://placecam.de/call.php?c=VBYEpXi43MZ2MOrV~pegsMm6Z7woUbw.VRY0Qxal2pE- (see https://github.com/RIOT-OS/RIOT/wiki/Instructions-for-remote-participation for instructions how to use PlaceCam) Cheers, Oleg Am Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at

Re: [riot-devel] Benchmarks

2015-03-18 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Ludwig! > I think our only m0+/802.15.4 board is the samr21-xpro and there are > problems with the current/old network stack because of its memory demands. I haven't followed the discussion about RPL and UDP on the SAMR21 lately, but doesn't these memory problems only exist when using with RPL

Re: [riot-devel] Radio duty cycling

2015-03-17 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Joakim! > What is the current state of radio duty cycling in RIOT? > I know that radio drivers implement on and off functions for the chip, but > how do we make the best use of them? > ​In order to reduce power consumption it will be necessary to duty cycle > the radio​ I would agree with Mart

Re: [riot-devel] GSoC 2015 Introduction - N1 BLE Project

2015-03-16 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Alexis! Welcome to RIOT! > I'm Alexis, from Lyon, France, student in Telecom Engineering. > I'm fond of IoT, embedded development, FOS Projects, and > I'm currently doing a master thesis in Barcelona, wich focus on Thread ( > http://www.threadgroup.org/) protocols stack. May I ask you what

Re: [riot-devel] Build issue on Windows (8.1)

2015-03-16 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi! > well written guide :) Thanks for the effort! Yes, indeed. Thanks a lot. I added a link to it to the wiki start page. Cheers, Oleg -- printk(KERN_WARNING "Hey who turned the DMA off?\n"); linux-2.6.6/drivers/net/wan/z85230.c pgpKbBav5Lv7z.pgp Description: PGP signature __

Re: [riot-devel] board-specific development

2015-03-16 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Ralph! > I don't think I see redbee-econotag listed as a supported board on the wiki > home page. Is it no longer actively supported? I think the support for the econotag in RIOT has always been rather poor. I'm not aware that support for it was dropped "officially", but considering the state

Re: [riot-devel] Need help about RIOT radio communicate example

2015-03-16 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Chen! > I connect 2 telosb to 2 USB port and used 2 terminal to "make term" to each > telosb board. I guess you're using the default example, right? > Then I use one board to txtsnd to other board address. But there is no > reaction from the other board. (For native mode, the other should sho

Re: [riot-devel] Build issue on Windows (8.1)

2015-03-12 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Murat! > I have used MinGW instead of Cygwin and problem is solved. Glad to hear. > Following link was very helpfull for setting MinGW : > http://www.jann.cc/2013/10/10/embedded_development_with_open_source_tools_on_windows.html Would you mind to maybe add a brief description to the RIOT w

Re: [riot-devel] replace printf, puts issue

2015-03-12 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi! > I more incline to use macros, but implement logging API too. Logging > functions can be use as default macro value in big MCUs (or MPUs). +1 Cheers, Oleg -- panic("Detected a card I can't drive - whoops\n"); linux-2.2.16/drivers/net/daynaport.c pgpqP1up6VV75.pgp Description: PGP

Re: [riot-devel] Biweekly virtual meeting

2015-03-12 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi David! Did you try with the new link from me? We're right about to start to talk about GSOC topics. Cheers, Oleg Am Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 05:35:48AM -0400 schrieb David Reinert: > So I was in the meeting and then I restarted PlaceCam in order to try and > remove any echo from my microphone. A

Re: [riot-devel] Build issue on Windows (8.1)

2015-03-11 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Murat! > make BOARD=mbed_lpc1768 > > arm-none-eabi-gcc.exe: error: > /cygdrive/d/developments/RIOT/examples/ipc_pingpong/main.c: No such file or > directory > > arm-none-eabi-gcc.exe: fatal error: no input files I have currently no Windows machine to test at hand, but could test to build wit

Re: [riot-devel] TLS

2015-03-11 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Matthias! > There is also a port of the Relic library toolkit > https://code.google.com/p/relic-toolkit/ including an extension for modern > Edwards Curves (ECC). For the current status of the Relic porting see https://github.com/RIOT-OS/RIOT/pull/2213 - I think it's only a matter of a few day

Re: [riot-devel] Biweekly virtual meeting

2015-03-11 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi! > I am able to connect finally! But says maximum no. of users :( Reason might be that we just finished with the meeting. Check out the minutes on http://riot.pad.spline.de/8 Cheers, Oleg -- printk("CPU[%d]: Sending penguins to jail...",smp_processor_id()); [... 20 lines ...] printk("CPU[%d

Re: [riot-devel] Biweekly virtual meeting

2015-03-11 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi! > I am not able to join via the new link either. Its says RIOT not online. Can you try with http://placecam.de/call.php?c=lmakKMrDG8a35aIBNqLBvOnApExkKFntj9xXawGNgTc- Cheers, Oleg -- panic("Unable to find empty mailbox for aha1542.\n"); linux-2.2.16/drivers/scsi/aha1542.c pgpkt3au

Re: [riot-devel] Biweekly virtual meeting

2015-03-11 Thread Oleg Hahm
The (live) minutes are on EtherPad: http://riot.pad.spline.de/8 -- What did the one smtp server say to the other? ... You had me at EHLO! pgpeN6OVDULI_.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ devel mailing list devel@riot-os.org http://lists.riot-os.org/mai

Re: [riot-devel] Biweekly virtual meeting

2015-03-11 Thread Oleg Hahm
Can you try with: http://placecam.de/call.php?c=VBYEpXi43MZ2MOrV~pegsMm6Z7woUbw.VRY0Qxal2pE- ? -- fs_dprintk (FS_DEBUG_INIT, "Ha! Initialized OK!\n"); linux-2.6.6/drivers/atm/firestream.c pgp3SGEOP0M0W.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ devel m

Re: [riot-devel] printing uint64_t

2015-03-09 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Ralph! > > I guess this problem is related to the Newlib-Nano [1] we're using if the > > toolchain supports it. This library doesn't support 64-bit printing. If it's > > required for you, you could try to disable it in the Makefile > > (e.g. boards/samr21-xpro/Makefile.include, for the Atmel bo

Re: [riot-devel] printing uint64_t

2015-03-09 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Ralph! > Is there something I'm doing that's obviously wrong? I guess this problem is related to the Newlib-Nano [1] we're using if the toolchain supports it. This library doesn't support 64-bit printing. If it's required for you, you could try to disable it in the Makefile (e.g. boards/samr21

Re: [riot-devel] Gsoc 2015

2015-03-07 Thread Oleg Hahm
Dear Kausthub! > I wanted to know if i can work on my Linux system itself or do I need to > get a separate system to run it ? For basic familiarization with RIOT and higher layer implementations, you can use RIOT's native port [1]. However, for concrete driver development you will need real embed

Re: [riot-devel] [Gsoc2015]Regarding Dynamic linking support for RIOT

2015-03-07 Thread Oleg Hahm
Dear Kushal! > 1. What else can be the other way to enable software update at run-time ( > maybe that could be added to the idea's page or be done along with the > dynamic linking support project) That's exactly the problem: the task force for OTA updates has only recently be formed and yet not

Re: [riot-devel] Switch to BSD?

2015-03-02 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi! > IMHO GPL + linking exception doesn't cut it. I'm not trying to change LGPL > into that. What do you think make LGPL more appropriate than GPL + linking exception? > In my opinion the IoT world needs something that is more oriented towards > respecting the needs of potential end users. Ho

Re: [riot-devel] Switch to BSD?

2015-03-02 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi! > >GPL with linking exception seems relevant in this discussion -- > >especially since eCOS, which is also a well-known embedded OS, uses this > >license. > > If we are thinking about amending an existing license, we could also try to > ease the restrictions of LGPL to fit our vision (whateve

[riot-devel] Hack'n'ACK 2015-03-04

2015-03-01 Thread Oleg Hahm
Dear rolling IoTlers, the next RIOT H&A party is almost here. You have only to sleep twice until we meet again in Hamburg (at HAW) and in Berlin (at c-base) - and who knows where else? If you're not lucky enough being able to join our local events or having at least one or two RIOTers living close

Re: [riot-devel] Feedback from emworld and future plans (partnerships AND licensing)

2015-02-27 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Jan! In addition to the other replies: > - RIOT is an OS that is mostly powered by the community with alot of students > of european universities(?) That's only half the truth: a big portion of the contributions to RIOT actually came from people paid by universities or research institutes (a

Re: [riot-devel] Switch to BSD?

2015-02-24 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Matthias! > but the name (or license branding). We had this discussion before. > Rather unknown licenses need to be explained. Using eCos license is > similar to use a RIOT license. Yes, I agree, but at least it's listed (approved?) by FSF. Another option (see citation from the OSI list fr

Re: [riot-devel] Switch to BSD?

2015-02-24 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Matthias! > I thought that we already decided to exclude exotic licenses. Yes. GPL + Linker Exception is not exotic. > With respect to this specific license: > > (1) We cannot use the license because the license text is specific to > eCos (e.g., "eCos is distributed [...]"). And orig

Re: [riot-devel] Switch to BSD?

2015-02-24 Thread Oleg Hahm
Dear RIOTers, I just found the eCos license: [1] http://ecos.sourceware.org/license-overview.html It's basically a modified version of the GPL with linker exception. The interesting point: it is officially recognised as a GPL-compatible Free Software License: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-

Re: [riot-devel] Changing the workflow.

2015-02-24 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Martine! In general I like the concept and I think various people (including myself) proposed a similar workflow already in the past, but it was always rejected (IMO for good reasons), because of the introduced overhead and missing personal resources. > I don't get this argument: With my workf

Re: [riot-devel] Repository for Docker builds

2015-02-23 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Joakim! > What is a suitable name for the new repo? > I have been using "riotbuild" for my Docker development at > https://github.com/gebart/riotbuild I don't have any particular ideas for the name, so, for me "riotbuild" (or "riotdocker") would be fine. > Also, I need to have an organisatio

Re: [riot-devel] Repository for Docker builds

2015-02-23 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Joakim! I'm completely fine with that. Thanks for the effort! Cheers, Oleg Am Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 09:18:42AM +0100 schrieb Joakim Gebart: > I'd like to hear if anyone is strongly opposed to this, otherwise I > will go ahead and create a new repository tomorrow. > > Best regards, > Joakim Ge

[riot-devel] This week's developer meeting

2015-02-23 Thread Oleg Hahm
Dear rocking IoTlers, due to the embedded world this week, several maintainers won't be available for this week's PlaceCam meeting. Hence, I have two questions: 1.) Is there anything urgent to discuss or can we skip the meeting? 2.) If we don't want to skip the meeting, is there anyone available f

Re: [riot-devel] About function pointers

2015-02-20 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hey Kaspar! > But IMHO we should not take that experience (and yours from that former > employee) to dismiss anything involving function pointers or some kind of > object orientation, if it looks good in code and doesn't impose runtime > costs. Agreed. > E.g., I'd rather use const function poin

Re: [riot-devel] LGPL compliance testing

2015-02-20 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hey Kaspar! > Using a "weird compiler" that cannot output the required object files > because it is closed source and proprietary is purely political. That > compiler could be changed trivially *if it would be open source* or the > vendor was inclined to do so. This doesn't count as technical reas

Re: [riot-devel] About function pointers

2015-02-19 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Kaspar! > On 02/18/15 22:50, Oleg Hahm wrote: > >but we don't know which weird > >compilers on some esoteric hardware platform might be used for RIOT somewhere > >sometime, so I rather rely on optimized C code than on optimized compilers. > > this keeps poppin

Re: [riot-devel] About function pointers

2015-02-18 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Joakim! > As I see it I have three choices for implementing a board > specific configuration of NVRAM: > > - Macros for the board's functions such as: > board.h: > #define NVRAM_READ(addr, len) nvram_spi_read(MYBOARD_NVRAM_SPI, > MYBOARD_NVRAM_CS, addr, len) > #define > > -

Re: [riot-devel] About function pointers

2015-02-18 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Ryan! > In my opinion this is a cleaner abstraction, and leads to clearer parallel > composition (or wiring) of modules, rather than the oft used vertical > composition. So, basically you're saying that trading some performance for a cleaner design is a good thing, is that right? I would say t

Re: [riot-devel] About function pointers

2015-02-18 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Kévin! > I began to use function pointers in the 'radio_driver.h' when trying to > create a unified model for radio drivers. I guess it went over later to the > whole netdev effort. Yes, I remember that, but why can't this be implemented in a similar way we did for most of the peripheral drive

Re: [riot-devel] About function pointers

2015-02-18 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Pekka, thanks for your input. > Of course, some care is needed to make sure that the compiler does the right > thing. > It is relatively easy to break the pattern. I see your point, but actually, I don't want to build a whole system model based on any assumption about what the compiler might

[riot-devel] About function pointers

2015-02-18 Thread Oleg Hahm
Dear remodeling IoTlers! Ludwig just made me aware that Joakim's PR for NVRAM [1] introduces function pointers as part of the device driver struct. This made me remember that there were already similar function pointers introduced as part of netdev. As I was always opposed to use function pointer

Re: [riot-devel] OTA meetup 11.2.2015

2015-02-16 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi! > the minutes from the meeting have been added to our wiki: > https://github.com/RIOT-OS/RIOT/wiki/minutes-OTA-meetup-13.2.2015 Have there any concrete next steps been identified? Did you conclude in some kind of a schedule for upcoming tasks and who is gonna work on what? Cheers, Oleg -- /

Re: [riot-devel] PlaceCam on Linux with echo-cancellation

2015-02-16 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi! > PS: > Open Research Topic: > Find out how to automatically or at least super-conveniently (I'm thinking > push-to-talk) mute the microphone when not speaking. Well, you can mute yourself, whenever you're not speaking, so it would be something like click-to-talk. I would like to add a rese

Re: [riot-devel] LGPL compliance testing

2015-02-16 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hey Kaspar! > While I personally wouldn't use such restricting development environments in > the first place, using RIOT for proprietary development here probably > wouldn't be feasible. Well, that's not always feasible. I remember that my old company was somehow forced to use a proprietary IDE (

Re: [riot-devel] reserve main and let application define thread(s)

2015-02-13 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi! > My proposal: > Let the application Makefile export one or possibly several names to > be used for the initial application thread(s). kernel_init will then > take care of creating those. > The function name "main" will be reserved for boards/cpus to > implement. > In case of native/PsoC, the

Re: [riot-devel] How low can you go?

2015-02-06 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hey Adam! Am Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 02:09:52PM -0800 schrieb Adam Hunt: > The other day I ran across a few Atmel Raven[0] development boards that I'd > forgotten I had (it never ceases to amaze the amount of random electronics I > own and have completely forgotten about). Sounds familiar. ;-) > It

Re: [riot-devel] Problem socket UDP

2015-02-05 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Maxence! > You mean than I should slow down the number of transmission? I send a > packet every second on three boards which means that the other board > receives three packets a second. > How may I check apart from slowing down the rate of the transmission? Three packets every second shouldn'

Re: [riot-devel] Problem socket UDP

2015-02-05 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Baptiste! > It works for more or less 20 minutes and then I receive a: > > printf("ERROR: recsize < 0!\n"); > > This comes from here: > if ((socket > MAX_SOCKETS) || (socket_base_sockets[socket - > 1].socket_id == 0)) { > return false; > } > > When I break here, socket =

Re: [riot-devel] Adding new Wifi hardware support in RIoT

2015-02-04 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi! > We are using a PMODWifi device [PmodWiFi - 802.11b WiFi Interface > (MRF24WB0MA, b/g/n compatible)] on Synopsis ARC board and have > succeded in initial port for RIoT on it. Sounds great - I'm looking forward to see your PR(s) for both, the ARC and the WiFi Interface. Cheers, Oleg -- prin

Re: [riot-devel] Sleep() seems to block all threads

2015-01-31 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi! > >I use the sleep function and it seems that it blocks the other threads > >while sleeping. Has someone got the same problem? > >I use sleep in the main thread with RPL_UDP example. > > there is no such function in RIOT. sleep() from POSIX is a wrapper around vtimer_sleep(). Usually, this w

[riot-devel] 802.15.4 for Linux

2015-01-30 Thread Oleg Hahm
Dear reasoning IoTlers, I know, we had this question already several times before , but I'm not sure about the current state and if some of you have made new experiences in this domain: is there any off-the-shelf hardware available that provides an IEEE 802.15.4 interface for Linux systems - prefe

[riot-devel] [o...@riot-os.org: [i...@meetup.com: Invitation: Internet of Things Meetup 12 – Intel Edison]]

2015-01-29 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi! It seems that forwarding mails as an attachment doesn't work for neither the archive nor digest subscribers. So, once more as an inline version: - Forwarded message from Oleg Hahm - Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 06:37:31 -0500 From: IoT Berlin To: o...@riot-os.org Subject: Invit

[riot-devel] [i...@meetup.com: Invitation: Internet of Things Meetup 12 – Intel Edison]

2015-01-28 Thread Oleg Hahm
Dear rhyming IoTlers (from the Berlin region), this might be interesting for folks with an interest in Intels IoT stuff. Cheers, Oleg -- The problem with token ring jokes is you need to wait your turn to laugh --- Begin Message --- New Meetup Internet of Things Meetup 12 – Intel Edison http

Re: [riot-devel] Virtual Meeting tomorrow

2015-01-28 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi! > Noone is taking the call. I was afk - please try again! Cheers, Oleg -- printk(KERN_WARNING "%s: Short circuit detected on the lobe\n", dev->name); linux-2.4.0-test2/drivers/net/tokenring/lanstreamer.c pgpGFWtjLxCAE.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [riot-devel] Virtual Meeting tomorrow

2015-01-28 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi! > Last chance to add some topics ;-) And indeed, some topics popped up last minute - so let's have this meeting. The usual PlaceCam link: http://placecam.de/call.php?c=VBYEpXi43MZ2MOrV~pegsMm6Z7woUbw.VRY0Qxal2pE- Cheers, Oleg -- printk("VFS: Busy inodes after unmount. " "Self-destru

[riot-devel] Virtual Meeting tomorrow

2015-01-27 Thread Oleg Hahm
Dear royalist IoTlers, please recall that the next bi-weekly meeting is supposed to happen tomorrow at 10:00 am CET. Everybody is welcome to join via PlaceCam (free for everybody, please read [1]). The PlaceCam link will follow tomorrow. I've set up a pad here: http://riot.pad.spline.de/7 Please

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