Re: logging out an X session

2003-02-19 Thread Matthias Scheler
On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 12:00:43AM -0600, Omon Edeki wrote: > I am desperately trying to write a program to log out a user from a linux > KDE/GNOME X window session.In trying to do this, I am killing all the > users' processes using kill(pid_t pid, SIGKILL) to all the users > processes. That's a

Re: logging out an X session

2003-02-19 Thread Thomas Zander
You don't want to do that like this, it won't ask the user to correctly save his work. kde has a mechanism to do that on the WM level, I bet GNOME has as well. Become the same user, set your DISPLAY var and do dcop kdesktop kdesktop logout Or similar. In the other case; do a ps auxf this

Re: xterm and UTF8

2003-02-19 Thread Thomas Zander
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 03:48:02PM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: > On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 08:53:14PM +0100, Thomas Zander wrote: > > Its news to me that a locale can specify that its utf-8, since I always > > thought that locales don't define encodings. > > It's news, then :) > > You can specify "en

Re: I'm stuck: font-related crash with current CVS

2003-02-19 Thread Keith Packard
Around 23 o'clock on Feb 19, David Dawes wrote: > Yes, I think that should work (providing we don't get too much other > stuff included as a result of including setjmp.h directly). Is there any interest in having this tested before a final patch is committed? I run only Debian here for practica

logging out an X session

2003-02-19 Thread Omon Edeki
Dear all, I am desperately trying to write a program to log out a user from a linux KDE/GNOME X window session.In trying to do this, I am killing all the users' processes using kill(pid_t pid, SIGKILL) to all the users processes. The user's processes actually do get killed but Xwindows refuses to

Re: server crash on linux-mips

2003-02-19 Thread David Dawes
On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 10:11:20PM +, Alan Hourihane wrote: >On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 10:23:03PM +0100, Guido Guenther wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 12:10:16AM +, Alan Hourihane wrote: >> > If you call the ShadowFBInit2 in newport_driver.c (just tag FALSE on the >> > end of the arguments

Re: I'm stuck: font-related crash with current CVS

2003-02-19 Thread David Dawes
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 12:20:04PM -0800, Keith Packard wrote: >Around 15 o'clock on Feb 19, Stuart Anderson wrote: > >> This approach strikes me as being inherently non-portable wrt the module ABI. >> setjmp/longjmp are too system specific to be used in modules. > >Yes, they are rather system spec

Re: [XFree86] [XFree86(TM) Bug Report] bad keyboard types in logicdn and es

2003-02-19 Thread David Dawes
On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 04:42:39PM +0600, Ivan Pascal wrote: >David Dawes wrote: >> I'm not sure if the best solution is to add the definition to >> the pc/es map (and all others where the default keyboard has this key), >> or change rules/xfree86 so that all of the "inetkbds" definitions are >> b

Re: [PATCH] DontVtSwitch X server config file option

2003-02-19 Thread David Dawes
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 09:58:19AM -0500, Mike A. Harris wrote: >This patch by Branden Robinson adds the option "DontVTSwitch" to >the X server serverflags section, which disables VT switching via >CTRL-ALT-Fx at runtime. > >Tested in CVS for a few weeks, and comes from Debian prior to >that. Patc

Re: xterm and UTF8

2003-02-19 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Thomas Dickey wrote: >> Would it be sensible and acceptable to have xterm default to >> using the encoding of the user's locale at startup? Seems to be > >only if you happen to be running redhat 8.x I'd like to know what problems are caused by autodetecting the user's loc

RE: FW: [Xpert]2 mice -> 2 pointer ?!?

2003-02-19 Thread Alexander Stohr
> Anyhow, thanks for the solution! Its a shame that X isn't > going to be able > to cope with multiple focus trees, but I agree the issues are > many, and the > need little... > > Rob what if it is not at all a software cursor but something like the x-eyes application? i mean a free from windo

Re: I'm stuck: font-related crash with current CVS

2003-02-19 Thread Keith Packard
Around 23 o'clock on Feb 19, Matthieu Herrb wrote: > For the short term, makeing aliases for xf86setjmp/xf86longjump is > probably good enough. Even if the binary compat is broken, the need to > run a foreign OS font module is low, since they are open source. If others will give my kludge a try

Re: RELNOTES for 4.3.0

2003-02-19 Thread Kevin Brosius
Alan Hourihane wrote: > > > Here's a list of items for the RELNOTES for 4.3.0, if anyone has anything > to add to this, please send it in. I'd suggest the following s3virge driver note: Doublescan modes (320x200) are supported and tested in depth 8 and 16 on DX, but disable XVideo. Doublescan

Re: I'm stuck: font-related crash with current CVS

2003-02-19 Thread Keith Packard
Around 23 o'clock on Feb 19, Matthieu Herrb wrote: > Given that setjmp/longjmp are not thread safe, wouldn't it be better > to have FreeType2 drop them in the future ? FreeType2 is not a thread-safe library as far as I know, nor does the X server support threading either, but I'm not sure how a

Re: I'm stuck: font-related crash with current CVS

2003-02-19 Thread Matthieu Herrb
Keith Packard wrote (in a message from Wednesday 19) > Around 15 o'clock on Feb 19, Stuart Anderson wrote: > > > This approach strikes me as being inherently non-portable wrt the module ABI. > > setjmp/longjmp are too system specific to be used in modules. > > Yes, they are rather system sp

Re: xterm and UTF8

2003-02-19 Thread Jeff Garzik
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 04:40:48PM -0500, Matt Wilson wrote: > stored in ~/.i18n). ssh does not transmit the current locale of the > machine you're coming from (nor should it - it could be different if > you're coming from a Solaris box into a RHL 8.0 box). That is indeed part of the problem, tha

RE: RELNOTES for 4.3.0

2003-02-19 Thread Alexander Stohr
Gatos is focussing on video and TV playback, TV/video-in functionality and video capture. But they are _not_ focussed on 3D to my understanding. thanks for the link to the AIW Radeon 9700 comments. the text outlines that even gatos has not timeframe how their development will proceed. for my und

Re: xterm and UTF8

2003-02-19 Thread Matt Wilson
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 11:32:26AM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: > > TBH there are really two problems here. > > In my opinion, Red Hat 8's UTF8 support definitely needs work... ssh > into a redhat box and run "man ", and watch it display poorly > due to incorrect UTF8 assumptions. There are clearly

Re: RELNOTES for 4.3.0

2003-02-19 Thread Knut J Bjuland
Gatos have acording to http://gatos.sourceforge.net/supported_cards.php recived document ans sample hardware from ATI. an Romanick wrote: > Mark Cuss wrote: > > A quick question regarding the 9500 and 9700 series Radeons - is support for > > 3D acceleration planned? > > Eventually, someday, if A

Re: I'm stuck: font-related crash with current CVS

2003-02-19 Thread Keith Packard
Around 15 o'clock on Feb 19, Stuart Anderson wrote: > It seems like the wrapped versions could be extended so that they would > work correctly. That's not possible. The fundemental problem is that setjmp captures the execution context (more or less the "continuation") from its caller, including

Re: I'm stuck: font-related crash with current CVS

2003-02-19 Thread Keith Packard
Around 15 o'clock on Feb 19, "Kurt J. Lidl" wrote: > You ought to make the xf86jmp_buf larger than 200 bytes. > I have access to a machine where the jmp_buf storage takes 232 > bytes already! I made it 400 bytes -- Linux x86 uses 156 bytes, and 256 seemed likely to be problematic on some machine

Re: xterm and UTF8

2003-02-19 Thread Jeff Garzik
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 08:53:14PM +0100, Thomas Zander wrote: > I've heard the same discussion on KDE lists. And as on KDE the point > is that the whole system has to be utf-8 to work correctly. Close -- the way Red Hat 8 is set up, it seems like the whole world needs to be UTF8 :/ This is an ex

Re: I'm stuck: font-related crash with current CVS

2003-02-19 Thread Kurt J. Lidl
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 12:20:04PM -0800, Keith Packard wrote: > I believe the approach taken will at least work in the majority of cases, > as long as setjmp/longjmp are exported as regular functions and jmp_buf > is no larger than xf86jmp_buf. Because the system setjmp.h is included > when ref

Re: I'm stuck: font-related crash with current CVS

2003-02-19 Thread Stuart Anderson
On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Keith Packard wrote: > Yes, they are rather system specific, but FreeType2 uses setjmp and longjmp > extensively for error recovery. Disallowing setjmp and longjmp would > make using FreeType2 rather difficult. > > I believe the approach taken will at least work in the majori

Re: I'm stuck: font-related crash with current CVS

2003-02-19 Thread Keith Packard
Around 15 o'clock on Feb 19, Stuart Anderson wrote: > This approach strikes me as being inherently non-portable wrt the module ABI. > setjmp/longjmp are too system specific to be used in modules. Yes, they are rather system specific, but FreeType2 uses setjmp and longjmp extensively for error re

Re: I'm stuck: font-related crash with current CVS

2003-02-19 Thread Stuart Anderson
On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Keith Packard wrote: > Here's a patch which has applications call the real setjmp/longjmp > directly (and makes xf86jmp_buf larger than jmp_buf). Testing would be > greatly appreciated. This approach strikes me as being inherently non-portable wrt the module ABI. setjmp/long

Re: RELNOTES for 4.3.0

2003-02-19 Thread D. Hageman
On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Alan Hourihane wrote: > > * ATI Radeon 9x00 support for 2D and 3D excluding the > 9500 and 9700 for 3D acceleration. > (Need comments about M7,M9 support ) I can confirm that the 2D/3D support of the M9 is excellent. -- //

Re: xterm and UTF8

2003-02-19 Thread Thomas Zander
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 11:09:57AM -0500, Mike A. Harris wrote: > Would it be sensible and acceptable to have xterm default to > using the encoding of the user's locale at startup? Seems to be > several ways of forcing UTF-8 to on, however I'm curious why it > doesn't just detect the locale by

Re: I'm stuck: font-related crash with current CVS

2003-02-19 Thread Keith Packard
Around 18 o'clock on Feb 19, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: > Why's that? Is setjmp/longjmp verboten in modules, or is FreeType > doing something non-portable? Yes, it appears that setjmp/longjmp are not permitted in any XFree86 code. Not by intent, but by implementation. Here's what I found in th

Re: RELNOTES for 4.3.0

2003-02-19 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Alan Hourihane wrote: > Here's a list of items for the RELNOTES for 4.3.0, if anyone has anything > to add to this, please send it in. > > * Mesa 4.0.4 is included for OpenGL(tm) support. > > * AMD x86-64 support. > > * Support for OpenBSD/sparc64. > >

Re: RELNOTES for 4.3.0

2003-02-19 Thread Torrey Lyons
At 11:14 AM + 2/19/03, Alan Hourihane wrote: Here's a list of items for the RELNOTES for 4.3.0, if anyone has anything to add to this, please send it in. * Indirect GLX acceleration for the MacOS X Xserver. Some other Mac OS X Xserver improvements (summarize as you see fit): - Smaller memo

Re: I'm stuck: font-related crash with current CVS

2003-02-19 Thread Keith Packard
Around 18 o'clock on Feb 19, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: > Why's that? Is setjmp/longjmp verboten in modules, or is FreeType > doing something non-portable? I don't know. Setjmp and longjmp are magic that is partially supported by the compiler, so I fear they will be broken by the XFree86 loader

RE: RELNOTES for 4.3.0

2003-02-19 Thread Alexander Stohr
> > A quick question regarding the 9500 and 9700 series Radeons > - is support for > > 3D acceleration planned? > > Eventually, someday, if ATI releases the relavent documentation and > enough developers have the time to do the work. In the meantime, if > you're on x86 Linux (or perhaps some B

Re: RELNOTES for 4.3.0

2003-02-19 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
AH> Here's a list of items for the RELNOTES for 4.3.0, if anyone has anything AH> to add to this, please send it in. Partial rewrite of the ``freetype'' backend. The new version is based on FreeType 2, and handles TrueType (including OpenType/TTF), OpenType/CFF and Type 1 fonts. The old ``type1'

Re: RELNOTES for 4.3.0

2003-02-19 Thread Ian Romanick
Mark Cuss wrote: A quick question regarding the 9500 and 9700 series Radeons - is support for 3D acceleration planned? Eventually, someday, if ATI releases the relavent documentation and enough developers have the time to do the work. In the meantime, if you're on x86 Linux (or perhaps some B

Re: I'm stuck: font-related crash with current CVS

2003-02-19 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
KP> but I'm afraid we'll still have segfaults from the setjmp/longjmp KP> issue. Why's that? Is setjmp/longjmp verboten in modules, or is FreeType doing something non-portable? Something that you've suggested before, and that I'm inclined to do after 4.3, is to link (dynamically) the core server

Software cursors - was RE: FW: [Xpert]2 mice -> 2 pointer ?!?

2003-02-19 Thread Dr Andrew C Aitchison
On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Rob Taylor wrote: > XFree86 still has framework for soft cursors, no? The framework yes, but drivers seem to have problems with DRI and XV and software cursurs, and seem to be trying to disable software cursors. -- Dr. Andrew C. Aitchison Computer Officer, DPMMS, Ca

Re: RELNOTES for 4.3.0

2003-02-19 Thread Mark Cuss
A quick question regarding the 9500 and 9700 series Radeons - is support for 3D acceleration planned? Thanks Mark - Original Message - From: "Michel Dänzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 5:17 AM Subject: Re: RELNOTES for 4.3.0 > On Mit,

Re: xterm and UTF8

2003-02-19 Thread Jeff Garzik
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 11:28:11AM -0500, Thomas Dickey wrote: > On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 11:09:57AM -0500, Mike A. Harris wrote: > > Would it be sensible and acceptable to have xterm default to > > using the encoding of the user's locale at startup? Seems to be > > only if you happen to be runn

Re: xterm and UTF8

2003-02-19 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 11:09:57AM -0500, Mike A. Harris wrote: > Would it be sensible and acceptable to have xterm default to > using the encoding of the user's locale at startup? Seems to be only if you happen to be running redhat 8.x -- Thomas E. Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://invisible

Re: [PATCH] Make Radeon and R128 DRI detect processor pagesize at runtime

2003-02-19 Thread David Dawes
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 08:58:19AM -0500, Mike A. Harris wrote: >Here is the original patch comment, with my own comments below. >Please apply patch to 4.2.99.x, with plans of a better long term >solution for the future planned for later. > >

xterm and UTF8

2003-02-19 Thread Mike A. Harris
Would it be sensible and acceptable to have xterm default to using the encoding of the user's locale at startup? Seems to be several ways of forcing UTF-8 to on, however I'm curious why it doesn't just detect the locale by default and use UTF-8 if in a .UTF-8 locale. If this sounds like a goo

Re: RELNOTES for 4.3.0

2003-02-19 Thread Marc Aurele La France
On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Alan Hourihane wrote: > Here's a list of items for the RELNOTES for 4.3.0, if anyone has anything > to add to this, please send it in. > * Mesa 4.0.4 is included for OpenGL(tm) support. > * AMD x86-64 support. > * Support for OpenBSD/sparc64. > * Ma

Re: RELNOTES for 4.3.0

2003-02-19 Thread Egbert Eich
Please also add: * Automatic mouse protocol detection. Egbert. ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel

[PATCH] DontVtSwitch X server config file option

2003-02-19 Thread Mike A. Harris
This patch by Branden Robinson adds the option "DontVTSwitch" to the X server serverflags section, which disables VT switching via CTRL-ALT-Fx at runtime. Tested in CVS for a few weeks, and comes from Debian prior to that. Patch has had a fair bit of testing from Debian folk it seems as it's been

[PATCH] Make Radeon and R128 DRI detect processor pagesize at runtime

2003-02-19 Thread Mike A. Harris
Here is the original patch comment, with my own comments below. Please apply patch to 4.2.99.x, with plans of a better long term solution for the future planned for later. === Patch by Chris Ahna: Fixes critical page size problems

Re: RELNOTES for 4.3.0

2003-02-19 Thread Frank Giessler
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/19/03 at 01:05 PM, Alan Hourihane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> To be precise, considerable work has been done for this >> release by Frank Giessler. Honour to those who really >> deserve it. >I'm puzzled why it was Frank who asked the question then... Sorry for

Re: RELNOTES for 4.3.0

2003-02-19 Thread Alan Hourihane
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 01:28:12PM +0100, Holger Veit wrote: > On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 11:49:07AM +, Alan Hourihane wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 12:37:45 +0100, Frank Giessler wrote: > > > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/19/03 > > >at 11:14 AM, Alan Hourihane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

Re: server crash on linux-mips

2003-02-19 Thread Alan Hourihane
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 01:07:41 +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Mit, 2003-02-19 at 10:02, Alan Hourihane wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 01:46:39 +0100, Michel Dnzer wrote: > > > On Die, 2003-02-18 at 20:10, Alan Hourihane wrote: > > > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 10:49:58 -0800, Nolan Leake wrot

Re: RELNOTES for 4.3.0

2003-02-19 Thread Holger Veit
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 11:49:07AM +, Alan Hourihane wrote: > On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 12:37:45 +0100, Frank Giessler wrote: > > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/19/03 > >at 11:14 AM, Alan Hourihane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > >Here's a list of items for the RELNOTES for 4.3.0, if anyon

Re: RELNOTES for 4.3.0

2003-02-19 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Mit, 2003-02-19 at 12:14, Alan Hourihane wrote: > Here's a list of items for the RELNOTES for 4.3.0, if anyone has anything > to add to this, please send it in. [...] > * ATI Radeon 9x00 support for 2D and 3D excluding the > 9500 and 9700 for 3D acceleration. It might be worth

RE: FW: [Xpert]2 mice -> 2 pointer ?!?

2003-02-19 Thread Rob Taylor
> > We have a product that can have up to 4 touch screens and has a > track-ball > > controlled pointer. Iften people operate the product in a > two-handed manner, > > and occasionally more than one operator will use the product at a given > > time. the upshot of this is that ideally there would be

Re: server crash on linux-mips

2003-02-19 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Mit, 2003-02-19 at 10:02, Alan Hourihane wrote: > On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 01:46:39 +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > On Die, 2003-02-18 at 20:10, Alan Hourihane wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 10:49:58 -0800, Nolan Leake wrote: > > > > On Sun, 2003-02-16 at 16:36, Mark Vojkovich wrote: > > >

Re: RELNOTES for 4.3.0

2003-02-19 Thread Alan Hourihane
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 12:37:45 +0100, Frank Giessler wrote: > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/19/03 >at 11:14 AM, Alan Hourihane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > >Here's a list of items for the RELNOTES for 4.3.0, if anyone has anything to > >add to this, please send it in. > > > * Major OS

Re: RELNOTES for 4.3.0

2003-02-19 Thread Frank Giessler
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/19/03 at 11:14 AM, Alan Hourihane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Here's a list of items for the RELNOTES for 4.3.0, if anyone has anything to >add to this, please send it in. > * Major OS/2 support updates. ??? Where do they come from? Frank. -- Frank Gies

Re: RELNOTES for 4.3.0

2003-02-19 Thread Thomas Zander
I'm wondering why my fonts have become so very beutiful since 4.2... :) On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 11:14:55AM +, Alan Hourihane wrote: > Here's a list of items for the RELNOTES for 4.3.0, if anyone has anything > to add to this, please send it in. > > * Mesa 4.0.4 is included for OpenGL(tm

RE: RELNOTES for 4.3.0

2003-02-19 Thread Alexander Stohr
RandR integration with partial enable of features? > -Original Message- > From: Alan Hourihane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 12:15 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RELNOTES for 4.3.0 > > > Here's a list of items for the RELNOTES for 4.3.0, if anyone >

RELNOTES for 4.3.0

2003-02-19 Thread Alan Hourihane
Here's a list of items for the RELNOTES for 4.3.0, if anyone has anything to add to this, please send it in. * Mesa 4.0.4 is included for OpenGL(tm) support. * AMD x86-64 support. * Support for OpenBSD/sparc64. * Major OS/2 support updates. * 2D Accelera

Re: server crash on linux-mips

2003-02-19 Thread Alan Hourihane
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 01:46:39 +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Die, 2003-02-18 at 20:10, Alan Hourihane wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 10:49:58 -0800, Nolan Leake wrote: > > > On Sun, 2003-02-16 at 16:36, Mark Vojkovich wrote: > > > >I don't really know what the point of fbIsVirtual was.