On 12/05/2012 09:06 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
Tried running it on a system with a
bunch of stuff from rpmfusion yet, for instance?
Yes.
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On 12/05/2012 02:39 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:
I can't make the meeting. It conflicts with the Board meeting.
Current items on the agenda:
1) Current Problem packages
2) F18 ARM VFAD - additional feedback, blockers?
3)
On 12/05/2012 09:38 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
One approach: a convention where each feature gets a tracking bug, and then
various tasks can be marked as blocking that. *Then*, each release can have
a tracking bug for accepted features themselves, and the tool to produce the
chart can simply be
Dne 5.12.2012 21:20, Bill Nottingham napsal(a):
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#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2012-12-05)
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Meeting started by notting at 18:07:27 UTC. The full logs are available
at
Dne 6.12.2012 10:14, Panu Matilainen napsal(a):
On 12/05/2012 09:38 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
One approach: a convention where each feature gets a tracking bug,
and then
various tasks can be marked as blocking that. *Then*, each release
can have
a tracking bug for accepted features themselves,
Dne 5.12.2012 22:14, Kevin Fenzi napsal(a):
I cant seem to find any specific fpc ticket where they discussed this,
but I am pretty sure it was brought up before there. I'd check with
them...
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/141
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/143
But I am afraid not
On 12/06/2012 12:50 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote:
Dne 6.12.2012 10:14, Panu Matilainen napsal(a):
On 12/05/2012 09:38 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
One approach: a convention where each feature gets a tracking bug,
and then
various tasks can be marked as blocking that. *Then*, each release
can have
a
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 23:24 -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Ville Skyttä ville.sky...@iki.fi
wrote:
IMO if a maintainer of a shared lib package goes as far as
submitting a
koji build without noticing a soname bump in it, the
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On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 09:39:03PM -0500, John Dulaney wrote:
a feature, especially a crit path feature, is not ready for prime
time.
Obviously, if a feature is not %100 by feature freeze, then it
needs to be
dropped. I would even venture to suggest that we
Compose started at Thu Dec 6 09:16:22 UTC 2012
New package: erlang-emmap-0-0.1.git8725d46.fc18
Erlang mmap interface
New package: plug-1.1-6.fc18
Linux software for Fender Mustang amplifiers
Updated Packages:
anaconda-18.35-1.fc18
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* Tue
Compose started at Thu Dec 6 08:15:09 UTC 2012
Broken deps for x86_64
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On Thu, 2012-12-06 at 07:39 -0500, Kamil Paral wrote:
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 23:24 -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Ville Skyttä ville.sky...@iki.fi
wrote:
IMO if a maintainer of a shared lib package goes as far as
submitting a
On Thu, 2012-12-06 at 02:57 -0500, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote:
Packaging two parallel versions of interpreters brings not only the
burden of maintaining them, but also the work to make them not
conflict. E.g. renaming binaries, checking shebangs all the time, etc.
With SCLs, this is much simpler
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 5:42 AM, Vít Ondruch vondr...@redhat.com wrote:
* 896 - Refine Feature Process (notting, 18:07:50)
* AGREED: Feature process modification: features are announced on
devel-announce by feature wrangler once wrangler verifies feature
page content (+:9, -:0)
IMHO use of software collections is a symptom of a badly run organisation
not devoting enough cycles to maintain the software it uses, and hoping
(as in wishful thinking) no problem will go critical before the product
they built on top of those collections is end-of-lifed
I completely fail to see
2012/12/5 Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org:
There is a perpetual problem facing all Linux distributions around how fast
to move with software updates. In Fedora, of course, our default speed is
petal-to-the-metal. This is part of who we are and why we are awesome.
However, it also
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=884686
Bug ID: 884686
Summary: Please make perl-ExtUtils-ParseXS available for F17
and F18
Product: Fedora
Version: 18
Component: perl-ExtUtils-ParseXS
On Thu, 2012-12-06 at 15:30 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
IMHO use of software collections is a symptom of a badly run organisation
not devoting enough cycles to maintain the software it uses, and hoping
(as in wishful thinking) no problem will go critical before the product
they built on top
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Template for reproducer
Could show the attack vector? Attached is
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Le mercredi 05 décembre 2012 à 22:25 -0600, Michael Ekstrand a écrit :
On 12/05/2012 03:06 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) said:
Three things:
1) Fedora is big enough that we have concrete situations where one size
doesn't fit all. Puppet being
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.comwrote:
On Thu, 2012-12-06 at 15:30 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
IMHO use of software collections is a symptom of a badly run organisation
not devoting enough cycles to maintain the software it uses, and hoping
(as in
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Status|NEW |CLOSED
On Thu, 2012-12-06 at 09:07 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 5:42 AM, Vít Ondruch vondr...@redhat.com wrote:
* 896 - Refine Feature Process (notting, 18:07:50)
* AGREED: Feature process modification: features are announced on
devel-announce by feature wrangler once
On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 03:30:32PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
IMHO use of software collections is a symptom of a badly run organisation
not devoting enough cycles to maintain the software it uses, and hoping
(as in wishful thinking) no problem will go critical before the product
they built
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From: Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net
To: Development discussions related to Fedora
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 4:30:32 PM
Subject: Re: What would it take to make Software Collections work in Fedora?
IMHO use of
On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 10:50:03AM -0500, Mark Bidewell wrote:
I used to use Fedora as my primary OS (Now I use a Mac). The major issue
which drove me away and which I believe SC would help to solve is that with
the current dependency model is that it becomes I want a new version of
On 6. 12. 2012 at 10:50:03, Mark Bidewell wrote:
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.comwrote:
On Thu, 2012-12-06 at 15:30 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
IMHO use of software collections is a symptom of a badly run
organisation
not devoting enough cycles to
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From: Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com
To: Development discussions related to Fedora
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 5:06:04 PM
Subject: Re: What would it take to make Software Collections work in Fedora?
On Thu, 2012-12-06 at
On Thu, 6 Dec 2012, Jan Zelený wrote:
Well, not exactly, you would still need to upgrade all packages that the new
version of Libreoffice depends on and all packages these updated packages depend
on and so on ... The only difference is that these updated packages would need
to be a part of
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To: Development discussions related to Fedora
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 5:50:03 PM
Subject: Re: What would it take to make Software Collections work in Fedora?
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Tomas Mraz tm...@redhat.com wrote:
On Thu, 2012-12-06 at 09:07 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 5:42 AM, Vít Ondruch vondr...@redhat.com wrote:
* 896 - Refine Feature Process (notting, 18:07:50)
* AGREED: Feature process modification:
On 6. 12. 2012 at 11:08:43, Seth Vidal wrote:
On Thu, 6 Dec 2012, Jan Zelený wrote:
Well, not exactly, you would still need to upgrade all packages that the
new version of Libreoffice depends on and all packages these updated
packages depend on and so on ... The only difference is that
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--- Comment #3 from Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com ---
(In reply to comment #2)
Does that mean taht perl package should provide perl(ExtUtils::ParseXS)?
No.
Because it is not.
True.
Because the module is provided by
On Thu, 6 Dec 2012, Jan Zelený wrote:
The original use case for SCLs is to provide a way to deliver newer versions
of SW in stable distributions like RHEL/CentOS than those available in the
core system and make sure system packages and collection packages don't
collide in any way (names,
Quoting Adam Williamson (2012-12-06 16:06:04)
On the other hand, we've been proselytizing the Java heretics for over a
decade now, and the Ruby ones for a while, and neither shows any signs
of conversion or just plain going away, so we may have to call it an
ecumenical matter and deal with
And _maintain_ them, with all security fixes.
The problem with duplication is above all one of scalability of
maintenance.
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From: Aleksandar Kurtakov akurt...@redhat.com
To: Development discussions related to Fedora
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Sent: Thursday,
Note that two versions of a product that is already being maintained anyway
could be a candidate, but of course this is something _for_ the OS, not
part of it (RHEL, not Fedora in the exemple I have in mind).
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From: Fernando Nasser fnas...@redhat.com
To:
Dne 6.12.2012 17:02, Tomas Mraz napsal(a):
On Thu, 2012-12-06 at 09:07 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 5:42 AM, Vít Ondruch vondr...@redhat.com wrote:
* 896 - Refine Feature Process (notting, 18:07:50)
* AGREED: Feature process modification: features are announced on
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Mark Bidewell mbide...@gmail.com wrote:
I used to use Fedora as my primary OS (Now I use a Mac). The major issue
which drove me away and which I believe SC would help to solve is that with
the current dependency model is that it becomes I want a new version of
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Got it, thnks a lot :)
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On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Vít Ondruch vondr...@redhat.com wrote:
Also, there was dissent already in the auto-approving of leaf-features
during the meeting discussion so I am not sure that auto-accepting of
Features in general given a lack of response is ever going to actually
happen. I
On Wed, 2012-11-21 at 14:01 -0600, David Lehman wrote:
On Wed, 2012-11-21 at 12:09 -0600, Ian Pilcher wrote:
On 10/19/2012 10:01 AM, David Lehman wrote:
This is the main piece of functionality that's still missing: allocating
devices from preexisting VGs.
You can create and destroy
On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 11:14:19AM +0200, Panu Matilainen wrote:
Trackign them in bugzilla makes so much sense and seems so blatantly
obvious now that you said it... its kinda hard to understand why
that hasn't been done from the start. Please make it so :)
On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 08:11:01AM -0500, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
At FUDCon Milan, we discussed using Trac to manage Spin process - it's
actually very similar process. And for tracking stuff I think it's more
suitable than Bugzilla - custom states, better overviews + use Wiki just
for feature
On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 11:50:01AM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote:
Don't think it makes more sense then the percentage in wiki. I
remember migration from Ruby 1.8.7 to Ruby 1.9.3. We needed to
adjust every ruby package in fedora and rebuild them. Some of them
were piece of cake, some needed patches,
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 08:11:01AM -0500, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
At FUDCon Milan, we discussed using Trac to manage Spin process - it's
actually very similar process. And for tracking stuff I think it's more
Hi,
There is a request to disable to PIRQ (PCI Irq Routing Table) fallback in
upstream biosdevname. This change would result in network device naming
changing to ethN on systems where SMBIOS type 41 and type 9 records are not
present.
Also, if we chose to disable PIRQ table fallback, I
On 12/06/2012 04:20 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
As I said in the meeting yesterday, I think the definition of a Feature
needs to be cleared up before we can really tackle this one. Feature to
me is something important enough that it shouldn't be auto-accepted. If
there is some other class of thing
Hello,
http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/packagename URLs no longer work, they
redirect to https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/error which appears
to be some kind of a 404 Not Found page. Known issue?
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On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 10:01:32PM +0200, Ville Skyttä wrote:
Hello,
http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/packagename URLs no longer work, they
redirect to https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/error which appears
to be some kind of a 404 Not Found page. Known issue?
Sorry for the troubles.
I
On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 11:20:22AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
As I said in the meeting yesterday, I think the definition of a Feature
needs to be cleared up before we can really tackle this one. Feature to
me is something important enough that it shouldn't be auto-accepted. If
there is some
commit 5cb144298f7e21894d728473418c79dce430c96c
Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org
Date: Thu Dec 6 20:23:31 2012 +
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On 2012-12-06 22:12, Ralph Bean wrote:
What package in particular are you trying? For instance,
https://bugz.fedoraproject.org/nethack works for me.
qt, python-zope-interface4 were the ones I tried.
An idea: packages that have do not have rawhide builds are not indexed
by the
The grub2 package obsoletes grub, so there's no way to actually _use_ the
older package, but it's still in the tree. Is there a reason?
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On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 12:02:52AM +0530, narendr...@dell.com wrote:
There is a request to disable to PIRQ (PCI Irq Routing Table) fallback in
upstream biosdevname.
Why?
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On Dec 6, 2012, at 3:02 PM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 03:34:23PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
The grub2 package obsoletes grub, so there's no way to actually _use_ the
older package, but it's still in the tree. Is there a reason?
Yes,
On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 10:02:20PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 03:34:23PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
The grub2 package obsoletes grub, so there's no way to actually _use_ the
older package, but it's still in the tree. Is there a reason?
Yes, virtualization.
On Dec 6, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 10:02:20PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 03:34:23PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
The grub2 package obsoletes grub, so there's no way to actually _use_ the
older
In fact in some area it takes me 1 min to finish loading the page..
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On Fri, 2012-12-07 at 00:02 +0530, narendr...@dell.com wrote:
Hi,
There is a request to disable to PIRQ (PCI Irq Routing Table) fallback
in upstream biosdevname. This change would result in network device
naming changing to ethN on systems where SMBIOS type 41 and type 9
records are not
So the point of view on SC matters.
If you live the EL/EPEL world and have some Fedora, SC make a lot of sense.
If you only use Fedora, Fedora moves fast enough to likely not have a ton
of use for them. I think that's been hit.
As for Puppet, I've proposed several ideas on how to improve
On Mon, 2012-12-03 at 12:53 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
In bohdi, people have reported that -59 fixed the problem going
forward. But
people already affected need to relabel.
Looks like I got caught with this one. However, the updated and a
relabel isn't working for me. My USB attached HDDs
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On Thu, 2012-12-06 at 02:57 -0500, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote:
Packaging two parallel versions of interpreters brings not only the
burden of maintaining them, but also the work to make them not
conflict. E.g. renaming binaries, checking shebangs all the time,
etc.
On Fri, 2012-12-07 at 17:46 +1100, Ankur Sinha wrote:
On Mon, 2012-12-03 at 12:53 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
In bohdi, people have reported that -59 fixed the problem going
forward. But
people already affected need to relabel.
Looks like I got caught with this one. However, the
On Thu, 2012-12-06 at 16:48 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Dec 6, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 10:02:20PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 03:34:23PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
The grub2 package obsoletes
On Fri, 2012-12-07 at 08:42 +0800, Christopher Meng wrote:
In fact in some area it takes me 1 min to finish loading the
page..
Bugzilla has been veeery slow for the last week or two. Painfully slow.
Incredibly efficiency-destroying slow, if you're oh say a full-time QA
person and so spend
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Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com
Date: Thu Dec 6 09:31:22 2012 +0100
Import
.gitignore |1 +
...get-2.28-Do-not-include-current-directory.patch | 22 +
Product: Fedora
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=884443
Bug ID: 884443
Summary: perl-AnyEvent-XMPP-0.54 is available
Product: Fedora
Version: rawhide
Component: perl-AnyEvent-XMPP
Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
Product: Fedora
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=884445
Bug ID: 884445
Summary: perl-Net-DNS-0.69 is available
Product: Fedora
Version: rawhide
Component: perl-Net-DNS
Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
Severity:
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Status|NEW
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Status|NEW |ASSIGNED
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=884511
Bug ID: 884511
Summary: upgrade to 1.37
Product: Fedora EPEL
Version: el6
Component: perl-Math-BigInt-GMP
Severity: unspecified
Priority: unspecified
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Date: Thu Dec 6 13:00:26 2012 +0100
0.69 bump
.gitignore|1 +
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sources |2 +-
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commit 4335693352edc6980d6046a69d4ae274df8acf60
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Date: Thu Dec 6 12:59:11 2012 +0100
0.54 bump
.gitignore |1 +
perl-AnyEvent-XMPP.spec | 14 ++
sources |2 +-
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--- Comment #2 from Miro Hrončok m...@hroncok.cz ---
Does that mean taht perl package should provide perl(ExtUtils::ParseXS)?
Because it is not.
What should I do if I have packages pending, requiring perl(ExtUtils::ParseXS)?
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Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org
Date: Thu Dec 6 22:57:42 2012 +
Update to 1.81
- New upstream release 1.81
- Deprecated set_ctx_defaults; new name is set_defaults (the old name is
still available)
-
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