Re: RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-08-03 Thread Kevin Kofler
? Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-08-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
will ship before the Beta is even being prepared. 5. People who want to use updates-testing will opt in to it explicitly. Opting in is easier than opting out because it means upgrading packages rather than downgrading them. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Fwd: [Fedora Update] [CRITPATH] [old_testing_critpath] mdadm-3.1.3-0.git20100804.3.fc14

2011-08-19 Thread Kevin Kofler
, yesterday! Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-19 Thread Kevin Kofler
feature there, aren't we? Wasn't the main design concept behind systemd the observation that everything can be parallelized most effectively by on-demand activation? Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-08-19 Thread Kevin Kofler
as updates. Proposed: The user will get offered only update sets B and C as updates. This would reduce the number of 0-day updates for Alpha/Beta releases significantly. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Changing default setting of bash's hash table?

2011-08-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
can see how it speeds up scripts, but it's just confusing and useless in interactive operation. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
%!) by disabling SELinux. It's your security stuff which is consuming a lot of memory. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: question regarding Fedora packaging

2011-08-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
utility, something other distros aren't/weren't doing either. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: pdfedit

2011-08-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
to drop qt3 any time soon. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: c-icap

2011-08-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
! Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: bodhi status

2011-08-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
is required if the package was retired due to having been orphaned (or failing to build) for too long. Rel- eng will probably want to see the completed rereview before unblocking the package. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman

Re: gimp

2011-08-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
them. They seem to have fun always doing the exact opposite of Fedora policy.) Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: gimp

2011-08-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
rule in Fedora and not an exception for Firefox alone! Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: gimp

2011-08-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
only because upstream refuses to support using the system version, even though it would work just fine. And so on… Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-29 Thread Kevin Kofler
on the MIDI ports of those old sound cards) also has to be modprobed manually. And yes, I have all that stuff plugged on this machine. I barely ever use it, but that doesn't mean I don't want it to work… Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-30 Thread Kevin Kofler
boot time can blacklist the driver manually. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-30 Thread Kevin Kofler
, right? Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-30 Thread Kevin Kofler
Simo Sorce wrote: It seem much more intelligent to add a package owners of floppies can install, so that 99.9% of the others do not have to wait forever for no reason. This goes against the principle that Fedora should Just Work on any hardware it encounters if at all possible. Kevin

Re: floppy support (was: [HEADS UP] remove ddate(1) command from rawhide)

2011-08-30 Thread Kevin Kofler
Chris Adams wrote: Leaving known-working hardware unusable at install is just rude and irritating when it is needed. There should be good justification, not just a bunch of developers don't use it anymore, so we don't think anybody else needs it. +1 Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Kevin Kofler
unavailable all that soon. (And unlike for those old lightbulbs, I don't think there's any reason for politicians to ban floppies.) Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Kevin Kofler
Björn Persson wrote: Kevin Kofler wrote: Users who don't have a floppy drive and want to save some boot time can blacklist the driver manually. s/Us/Hack/ to make that sentence true. No. Users who want to tweak their system to the point of shaving a few seconds off their boot times should

Re: Notice of intent: patching glibc

2011-08-31 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote: glibc maintainers / developers, if you don't want me to do this, please start giving a crap about your bugs. Speaking of critical glibc bugs, what about this one? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=733462 IMHO, that's also a blocker. Kevin Kofler

kde-settings License now MIT

2011-08-31 Thread Kevin Kofler
-6.fc17 has changed to: License: MIT Please note that the kde-settings-pulseaudio subpackage is still Public Domain because it contains literally nothing to copyright and license. (It is an empty metapackage.) Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: GIMP vs. poppler licensing, was: So you want to test an unstable GIMP...

2011-09-03 Thread Kevin Kofler
plugin be GPLv3 only rather than (GPLv2 or GPLv3), considering that GIMP is GPLv3+? Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd

2011-09-03 Thread Kevin Kofler
. We should also remove this stupid cannot migrate to a native systemd unit in an update rule. If a native systemd unit file gets written, it should be pushed out to F16 and F15 immediately. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org

Re: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd

2011-09-06 Thread Kevin Kofler
maintainer. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd

2011-09-09 Thread Kevin Kofler
Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Strange rpath issue with F-16 and F-17

2011-09-09 Thread Kevin Kofler
start by filing a bug against sip in Fedora Bugzilla. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: openssh: no pre-release sanity check? [Re: ssh-to-rawhide hangs

2011-09-11 Thread Kevin Kofler
Frank Murphy wrote: Is not rawhide the sanity check, Yes. even if used productively by many? That's the problem then. Rawhide is explicitly labeled as NOT being intended nor suitable for any sort of production use. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: openssh: no pre-release sanity check? [Re: ssh-to-rawhide hangs

2011-09-11 Thread Kevin Kofler
is about as realistic as making nuclear fission without radioactive waste. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: openssh: no pre-release sanity check? [Re: ssh-to-rawhide hangs

2011-09-12 Thread Kevin Kofler
be very useful to test them more instead of just a mad version number chase. That's exactly why we should go back to just untagging broken packages instead of requiring pointless Epoch bumps in Rawhide. Then the breakage will just get downgraded away before any release. Kevin Kofler

Re: openssh: no pre-release sanity check? [Re: ssh-to-rawhide hangs

2011-09-12 Thread Kevin Kofler
Rawhide users for. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Development to release quality (was: Re: openssh: no pre-release sanity check?)

2011-09-12 Thread Kevin Kofler
is not covered by the average don't break trunk rule (which is usually about compilability). Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: openssh: no pre-release sanity check? [Re: ssh-to-rawhide hangs

2011-09-12 Thread Kevin Kofler
should probably use yum distro-sync rather than yum update. I agree that abuse of Epoch sucks, and indeed, it isn't really needed in Rawhide now that there is distro-sync. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
Richard of being incompatible with yum when the incompatibilities that matter most to our users have been required by yum developers, in particular: * no writing to the yum database by default, * no parsing yum.conf by default. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
! Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
from, * inability to be loaded as a shared library into compiled programs like the PackageKit daemon, * relying on the deprecated Python 2 and slowing down Python 3 adoption. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
seth vidal wrote: 2. a satsolver is going to require changing around how we truck the repodata around a good bit. Yet zypp works fine with the same metadata format we use and using a SAT solver… Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
use the library). Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-17 Thread Kevin Kofler
/ZifByDefaultForDesktop IMHO, Elad's proposal makes a lot of sense and I fully support it. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-17 Thread Kevin Kofler
as an example. Richard Hughes is being receptive to other uses of zif than PackageKit, see the subthread with Richard W.M. Jones. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-17 Thread Kevin Kofler
and Javascript in the future. And Python too, I suppose? /me starts cursorily looking in the general direction of Anaconda. ;-) Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-18 Thread Kevin Kofler
interest and if you (Richard Hughes) are OK with it. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-18 Thread Kevin Kofler
that was better than what we have now, which is almost unpredictable.) Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-18 Thread Kevin Kofler
this. Richard, what do you think? Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-19 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matthew Garrett wrote: Debian policy is that any virtual dependencies must also have an explicit dependency. In your case it would be something like Requires: phonon-backend-gstreamer | phonon-backend Unfortunately, RPM does not support this idiom. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-19 Thread Kevin Kofler
Michael Schroeder wrote: Sounds like you want weak dependencies (i.e. Suggests et al). In this case, I think disjunctive dependencies (default | virtual), as Matthew Garrett pointed out, are the right solution, not soft dependencies (though those would also be nice). Kevin Kofler

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-19 Thread Kevin Kofler
. ;-) Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: grub / grub2 conflicts

2011-09-19 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matthew Garrett wrote: The output of rpm -qf grub may be instructive. I suppose you mean rpm -ql grub… Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Zif backport repository for F15 available for testing

2011-09-19 Thread Kevin Kofler
you'll have little to no use for this particular subpackage. ;-) Any issues with the repository itself should be reported to me, any issues encountered with the actual software should be reported to Richard Hughes (by filing a bug against zif at bugzilla.redhat.com). Kevin Kofler -- devel

Re: Zif backport repository for F15 available for testing

2011-09-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Kevin Kofler wrote: I have put up a repository with an updated zif snapshot for Fedora 15 at: http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/kkofler/zif-backport/fedora-zif-backport.repo So, I found several issues, mostly in zif or PackageKit-zif, but also one in KPackageKit/Apper: https

Re: Zif backport repository for F15 available for testing

2011-09-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Kevin Kofler wrote: I'm building a new snapshot of zif, which should fix #739980 (but I have to test that), and will be pushing it to the repository (no matter whether it actually fixes #739980 or not). There's now zif-0.2.4-0.93.20110920git.fc15 in the repository, but you'll probably have

Re: Zif backport repository for F15 available for testing

2011-09-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jef Spaleta wrote: Kevin, were you able to reproduce my problem with the official adobe repository? To be honest, I haven't tried it, I've been busy enough filing the bugs for the issues I found myself and retesting them with today's snapshot. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list

Re: Zif backport repository for F15 available for testing

2011-09-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
installed.) Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: grub / grub2 conflicts

2011-09-22 Thread Kevin Kofler
to maintain the old GRUB 1 anymore. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Looking at retiring chess

2011-09-22 Thread Kevin Kofler
existing releases (i.e. currently Fedora 14 and 15, nor of course from EOL releases). Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Zif backport repository for F15 available for testing

2011-09-22 Thread Kevin Kofler
sure it will be fixed. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Need systemd unit file help.

2011-09-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
in parallel. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: grub / grub2 conflicts

2011-09-26 Thread Kevin Kofler
that to FESCo. (FWIW, IMHO, the whole critpath nonsense should be abolished, it only causes problems and solves none.) Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Need systemd unit file help.

2011-09-26 Thread Kevin Kofler
the kernel from the list of packages to update in the PackageKit GUI of choice (be it gnome- packagekit, KPackageKit or Apper) if the kmod doesn't show up along with it. It's not rocket science. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: Zif backport repository for F15 available for testing

2011-09-26 Thread Kevin Kofler
Kevin Kofler wrote: I have put up a repository with an updated zif snapshot for Fedora 15 at: http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/kkofler/zif-backport/fedora-zif- backport.repo There's once again a new snapshot today. (I haven't announced every new snapshot in the repository

Re: GNOME 3 - font point sizes now scaled?

2011-09-30 Thread Kevin Kofler
. (It has done so for years.) Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: GNOME 3 - font point sizes now scaled?

2011-09-30 Thread Kevin Kofler
Daniel Drake wrote: Summary: GNOME hardcodes DPI to 96 regardless of X configuration. This is very broken. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Is there a mono developer in the house? Need help building moonlight.

2011-09-30 Thread Kevin Kofler
is news.gmane.org, it supports both NNTPS and unencrypted NNTP, on the default ports (i.e. NNTPS on port 563 and unencrypted NNTP on port 119). Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Critpath updates process broken for certain components

2011-10-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
and the updates process and allow the maintainer to decide again). It's the only thing that can possibly work for all cases. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: F-16 suspends my *desktop* after 30 minutes at the gdm , making it impossible to ssh in

2011-10-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
it remotely. You can use KDM instead. It does not support power management at all (at this time), so you can be sure that it won't be suspending your computer, ever. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: KDE devels - why is kdeedu missing from websvn?

2011-10-03 Thread Kevin Kofler
. KDE translations have always been in a separate directory in SVN from the actual code, so it is possible to maintain the code in git and the translations in SVN.) Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: About Feature enhancement Updates Policy

2011-10-06 Thread Kevin Kofler
that are a problem. An update which enhances features without changing the normal user experience is not against the policy. But how is hiding http://; by default (with the preference to unbreak this tucked away under about:config) in a Firefox security update not against the policy? Kevin Kofler

Re: tcplay: BSD-licensed alternative to TrueCrypt

2011-10-06 Thread Kevin Kofler
!= the software is Open Source. Open Source is a term defined by the Open Source Initiative, which means almost the same thing as Free Software. The source code being merely available can be termed Shared Source (a term coined by M$), source-available or whatever, but NOT Open Source. Kevin

Re: PA 1.0 for FC16?

2011-10-08 Thread Kevin Kofler
a better job than us of shipping an updated version of OUR OWN FEATURE, we're failing very badly. What happened to First in the 4 'F's? Our objectives are NOT to deliver current software only 6+ months after the competition. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Subject: IMPORTANT: Mandatory password and ssh key change by 2011-11-30

2011-10-13 Thread Kevin Kofler
) fingerprints? Iris scans? Will we only be able to log into Fedora infrastructure in the presence of armed security guards? It's time to stop the nonsense! Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: RPM DB corruption with F-16 Beta

2011-10-13 Thread Kevin Kofler
issues. Both gnome-shell and KWin have their lists of known broken and/or known working drivers. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: openSUSE announces release of openqa

2011-10-15 Thread Kevin Kofler
. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: openSUSE announces release of openqa

2011-10-15 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote: On Sat, 2011-10-15 at 10:03 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Adam Williamson wrote: The other problem with screenshot validation is that it's inherently unsuited to some tests that are important to Fedora and that we have more-or-less working *right now* in AutoQA

Re: Sourcing one spec from another permissible?

2011-10-18 Thread Kevin Kofler
mailing list. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: BEWARE: a problematic glibc made it to stable (F16)

2011-10-22 Thread Kevin Kofler
. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Systemd conversion versus updates in back Fedora branches

2011-10-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
says that you cannot migrate to systemd in an update and pushed this update: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2011-13456 (which is already in the stable updates). I'm starting to wonder whether that wouldn't be the best solution here. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel

Re: BEWARE: a problematic glibc made it to stable (F16)

2011-10-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
this decision correctly, so we should let a human, the maintainer, take it. And if the maintainer demonstrates incompetence at taking these decisions, the offending maintainer needs to be replaced. No amount of software can fix incompetence. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel

Re: Systemd conversion versus updates in back Fedora branches

2011-10-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
will break much more stuff than keeping the change. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Systemd conversion versus updates in back Fedora branches

2011-10-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
. So that problem will be gone then, and the just push the systemd migration to all supported releases plan would be sound then if only FESCo and/or FPC would approve it. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: F15: subversion 1.7 / kdesvn

2011-10-26 Thread Kevin Kofler
of Subversion, which totally sucks for users of shared home directories, but we can't do anything about that. :-( ) I also think this change might also require changes in various SVN GUI frontends, not just kdesvn. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: BEWARE: a problematic glibc made it to stable (F16)

2011-10-26 Thread Kevin Kofler
projects) in a Fedora release sounds very much unacceptable. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: retire referencer in Fedora 16+ ?

2011-10-26 Thread Kevin Kofler
and 15 updates have the kdelibs 4 version (0.3)). Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: New bodhi bugfix release in production

2011-10-26 Thread Kevin Kofler
URLs are not, which means the ID is a lot more useful. E.g. when Bodhi posts a link in Bugzilla using packagename-version format, that link stops working when the update is edited. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman

Re: New bodhi bugfix release in production

2011-10-26 Thread Kevin Kofler
to another group. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Packaging a Firefox extension

2011-10-31 Thread Kevin Kofler
per se. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Vanilla builds guideline?

2011-11-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
better. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: FESCo Meeting Minutes for 2011-10-31

2011-11-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
fit for PackageKit. See also https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=748790 .) Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Bug 750566 - qtparted won't install because it is from F15 and requires libparted.so.0, and F16 has libparted.so.1

2011-11-03 Thread Kevin Kofler
features like this, without providing any kind of a replacement, is a very unhelpful move from upstream. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Ian Malone wrote: If I filed every bug in the distro in upstream I'd have a dozen different bugzilla accounts by now. So what? Maintainers are not messengers, they have other work to do than forwarding the bugs you're too lazy to file directly at the right place. Kevin Kofler

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
seth vidal wrote: Bojan, Install xfce. You'll be happy w/that. You should also give KDE Plasma Desktop a try. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: xfce-weather-plugin stopped working

2011-11-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
wants itself and the UK MET Office to be credited with a link, which is why that credit link below the forecasts got added to the widget. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Heads up: libpng bumped to 1.5.x in rawhide

2011-11-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
be applied in many cases to get rid of unnecessary linkage bloat. Why is this not the default in Fedora? Mandriva has been using that by default for ages, and it shouldn't be any more invasive than the -Wl,--no-add-needed (note: add != as) change done in Fedora 13. Kevin Kofler -- devel

Re: reporting bugs

2011-11-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
Reindl Harald wrote: yes - because most maintainers are having bugzilla-accounts upstream and reading the uptream-mailing-lists and are much more cooperative as the KDE SIG, especially Kevin Kofler Yes, we have Bugzilla accounts upstream. But as I explained, upstream wants to talk

Re: reporting bugs

2011-11-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
to show up as reported by the original reporter in Fedora and/or with that original reporter CCed, without them having to register for an upstream account first.) Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
, want my computer to work the way I learned and interiorized a computer works, any innovative interface destroys my automatisms and confuses me. I'm using Plasma Desktop with the Classic menu (not the default fancy Kickoff), only 1 virtual desktop and only the default activity. Kevin

Re: Heads up: libpng bumped to 1.5.x in rawhide

2011-11-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
don't ship .la files in Fedora) which add -lpng12 when you didn't ask for it. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Heads up: libpng bumped to 1.5.x in rawhide

2011-11-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
Chris Adams wrote: Hmm, I didn't know that. Which does RPM use when generating dependencies? It would appear that it is is using ldd; should that be changed? No, RPM does not pull in recursive soname dependencies, only direct ones. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-07 Thread Kevin Kofler
not to. (There is a way, but 1. it's complicated and 2. it hurts performance.) Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: why do I need colord?

2011-11-07 Thread Kevin Kofler
Michał Piotrowski wrote: Out of curiosity I wanted to ask, why do I need colord on my system? Try yum remove colord and see what it wants to remove (and probably say no if it's anything important to you), then you'll know what drags it in (whether for good reasons or not). Kevin

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