On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 2:33 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sayamindu,
Thanks for the awesome writeup. Do you feel comfortable enough with
Fedora packaging to take responsibility for providing 703-compatible
packages containing these changes?
Sure. Can do that. However, for the
Debian has published a recent security advisory regarding a documented
weakeness in the Debian openssl key generation procedure:
[DSA 1571-1] New openssl packages fix predictable random number
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On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Simon Schampijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Greg Smith (gregmsmi)
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Thinking about the hot corners pop-up frame thingy, Nepal asked that
be deprecated and I agree based
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On Thu, 15 May 2008, Joshua Minor wrote:
Can you clarify whether keys generated on an XO need to be regenerated
or not.
The XO, being a Fedora-based system, is not vulnerable to this problem.
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Can you clarify whether keys generated on an XO need to be
regenerated or not.
-josh
On May 15, 2008, at 6:40 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
On Thursday 15 May 2008, Henry Hardy wrote:
Debian has published a recent security advisory regarding a
documented
weakeness in the Debian openssl key
On Thursday 15 May 2008, Joshua Minor wrote:
Can you clarify whether keys generated on an XO need to be
regenerated or not.
-josh
If you are running a standard OLPC build no. Fedora is not effected by this
bug only debian and debian based distros like Ubuntu and Knoppix.
The standard
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 12:32:49PM +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote:
for the olpc-utils package, before starting the build in Koji, do you
want me to commit to dev.laptop.org Git and bump up the version, or do
you want me to put the patch in Koji ? If you want me to commit to
d.l.o Git first,
1. Project name : Ochos Locos
2. Existing website, if any : http://gambit.mit.edu
3. One-line description : a Crazy Eights-inspired card game for OLPC
4. Longer description : Ochos Locos, a Crazy Eights-based game, is an
: upcoming release for
Michael,
Thanks for the detailed description. I have updated xkeyboard-config
and submitted a build request to Koji
(http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=611221). I will
make a new release of olpc-utils as soon as I get Git access.
Thanks,
Sayamindu
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 11:22
This patch is based on a patch from Shailendra Govardhan. It introduces
several new iwprivs: {get,set}_bootflag {get,set}_boottime {get,set}_def_chan
{get,set}_def_protid {get,set}_def_metid {get,set}_def_meshcap
{get,set}_def_meshid. These commands are only supported on Marvell hardware
that
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 11:22 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 12:32:49PM +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote:
for the olpc-utils package, before starting the build in Koji, do you
want me to commit to dev.laptop.org Git and bump up the version, or do
you want me
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 01:58:38AM +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote:
Step 5 did not work. I think you meant
git tag -s -m 'Bump revision to 0.xx' v0.xx
Indeed, my mistake.
I have submitted a Koji build request. Status at
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=611349
Thanks very
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 07:54:46PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
--- officially ---
According to tickets #6973 and #6945, 703 loads the wrong keyboard map
for Haiti and inappropriately invokes GTK-IM for Ethiopia. It is
proposed that we make a small bug-fix release to allow Haiti and
Mongolia
Ok. I found 4 networking scenarios on the wiki at this link:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Networking_scenarios
I was a little surprised not to see a scenario where a mesh network
connects via a mesh portal without a school server. Is this a valid
scenario, or was it deliberately excluded for
I'm just getting some feedback from Quanta on problems with Mongolian
laptops as they are producing a couple thousand this week and will be
shipping them out.
I will try to recreate these issues and we can see if they fit the same
areas of change and if there is another fix that could be a
One Laptop per Child is announcing an agreement with Microsoft
to make a dual boot, Linux/Windows, version of the XO laptop. In
addition, our intention is to engage one or more third parties to port
Sugar to
run on Windows in order to reach a wider installed base of laptops. In
the
meanwhile,
On Thu, 15 May 2008, Nicholas Negroponte wrote:
One Laptop per Child is announcing an agreement with Microsoft
to make a dual boot, Linux/Windows, version of the XO laptop. In
addition, our intention is to engage one or more third parties to port Sugar
to
run on Windows in order to reach a
Nick Negroponte has said :
Open Firmware V2, the free and open source BIOS, is now capable of
running Linux, Microsoft Windows XP and other operating systems, and was
developed by Firmworks with support from OLPC. This will enable dual
boot of OLPC XO laptops with Microsoft Windows XP in addition
Dear Nicholas,
You made very strong points in your keynotes about the XO outlining exactly
(and correctly) WHY you were staying away from Microsoft.? Also, if you think
Microsoft has any long-term interest in dual boot systems, you don't know them
very well.
I'm saddened by your
Let's look at this with a slightly different lens before we blow up on NN
and Microsoft.
What does this agreement equate to? And what are the alternatives to
Microsoft?
If the XO was running a completely closed source stack with no documentation
on hardware, how would the Linux community feel?
I am planning to apply to OLPC for a job as a contractor, working on
Develop. I have been told that my first-priority feature, automatic code
localization http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Bityi/GSoC, would be hard to
justify on the OLPC roadmap. So I'd like to hear some votes/priorities on
the following
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Seth Woodworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Let's look at this with a slightly different lens before we blow up on NN
and Microsoft.
What does this agreement equate to? And what are the alternatives to
Microsoft?
If the XO was running a completely closed
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Seth Woodworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So as a fair practice I think it's clear that no special actions can
ethically be made to prevent Windows or any other OS from running on the
machine. So a Windows port for the XO isn't something that could have been
On Thu, 15 May 2008, Steve Holton wrote:
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Seth Woodworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Let's look at this with a slightly different lens before we blow up on NN
and Microsoft.
What does this agreement equate to? And what are the alternatives to
Microsoft?
If the
On Thu, 2008-05-15 at 17:56 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's doubtful the free software community would do what Microsoft is
demanding: asking the manufacturer to add 5-10% to the cost of the hardware
to facilitate their efforts, nor would the free software community charge a
$3.00
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On Thu, 15 May 2008, Steve Holton wrote:
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Seth Woodworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Let's look at this with a slightly different lens before we blow up
on NN
and Microsoft.
What does this agreement equate to? And what are the
Ah, Windows needs more than 1GB to be useful; so to run Windows you need
to pay extra for a SD card big enough to hold it.
Doesn't add any cost for Linux, which fits nicely on the internal 1GB
flash.
- Jim
On Fri, 2008-05-16 at 02:57 +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote:
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 2:57 AM, Simon Schampijer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 15 May 2008, Steve Holton wrote:
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Seth Woodworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Let's look at this with a slightly different lens before we blow up
He's not declaring a policy of ethical inaction. He made an
announcement called Microsoft wherein he describes an OLPC-supported
firmware modification that will allow Windows to boot on the XO-1. He
p it to an OLPC mailing list. He then claimed no OLPC resources would
be devoted to the
Seth Woodworth writes:
So as a fair practice I think it's clear that no special actions can
ethically be made to prevent Windows or any other OS from running on
the machine. So a Windows port for the XO isn't something that
could have been preventative.
Wrong. It's called tit-for-tat,
2008/5/16 Steve Holton [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Seth Woodworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
With Walter Bender on his own and dedicated to bringing Sugar to every
machine on a FOSS stack, and all OLPC produced software being safely GPL'ed,
I feel confident that Sugar can beat
...and to which the free software (linux) community would respond with a
reverse engineering effort, at it's own (collective) expense, and rather
quickly have a solution. If turnabout is fair play, let Microsoft adopt the
free software community response as well.
The golden rule doesn't
Wrong. It's called tit-for-tat, otherwise known as fair-is-fair.
It's perfectly ethical to defend oneself against an adversary
who has no qualms about anything.
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
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seth wrote:
Of course. Sugar is not dead, just OLPC. That's why the fork occurred.
Sugarlabs isn't a fork. The code bases are still the same and
aren't going to change. It's more like upstream sources now.
Or a forking of management, not code.
devil's advocate: how would
Kurt H Maier wrote:
How is this relevant? When Microsoft sits down and throws its vast
resources at making Windows just work on the XO-1, it's going to
blow our current FOSS distributions out of the water. *That's* what
worries me. We don't have suspend and resume working without breaking
devil's advocate: how would someone on the outside (of either
OLPC, or sugarlabs) know that that is the case? all that has
happened (from the public view of things) is that this new wiki
has sprung up, claiming essentially that this is where sugar
lives. there's been no announcement
Nicholas Negroponte wrote:
OLPC is substantially increasing its engineering resources and all
software development continues entirely on GNU/Linux. We will continue
to work to make Sugar on Linux the best possible platform for education
and to invest in our expanding Linux deployments in
There has been some mention of a new community initiative to carry on
the development of Sugar. A number of community members have set up
SugarLabs.org in order to further extend Sugar. Sugar Labs will focus
on providing a software ecosystem that enhances learning on the XO
laptop as well as other
On 5/16/08, Nicholas Negroponte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Open Firmware V2, the free and open source BIOS, is now capable of
running Linux, Microsoft Windows XP and other operating systems, and was
developed by Firmworks with support from OLPC. This will enable dual
boot of OLPC XO laptops with
On May 15, 2008, at 10:39 PM, Korakurider wrote:
On 5/16/08, Nicholas Negroponte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Open Firmware V2, the free and open source BIOS, is now capable of
running Linux, Microsoft Windows XP and other operating systems,
and was
developed by Firmworks with support from
If XO sales are so unrestricted, why can't I buy one at laptop.org?
Are you willing to buy 100 or more?
Willing? Yes. Able? No. Are you willing to let free-market
capitalism drive a not-for-profit project aimed at developing nations?
Be realisitic. Our software isn't customizable beyond
Hi All,
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 8:34 PM, Seth Woodworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The golden rule doesn't say: Treat others as you have been treated, It
says to treat others as you would like to be treated.
The golden rule also has absolutely nothing to do with reality when
you're
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 3:04 PM, John Watlington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Indeed - working on [backups] right now.
Great. What approach are you taking (new thread, perhaps ?)
At this stage, I am slowly hacking on ds-backup.py. My plan so far is to
- Simplify ds-backup to
- do a simple
http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/olpc/streams/update.1/build704
Changes in build 704 from build: 703
Size delta: 0.00M
-olpc-utils 0.68-1.olpc2
+olpc-utils 0.73-1.olpc2
-xkeyboard-config 1.1-15.20071130cvs.olpc2
+xkeyboard-config 1.1-17.20071130cvs.olpc2
--- Changes for xkeyboard-config
On a final note:
Additionally, the Fedora, Debian and Ubuntu software environments run
on the XO-1, adding support for tens of thousands of free software
applications.
I am terrified at the thought that the rest of this press release
might be anywhere near as disingenuous as this
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 03:23:18PM +1200, Martin Langhoff wrote:
At this stage, I am slowly hacking on ds-backup.py. My plan so far is to
Where can I find your code?
Thanks,
Michael
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On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 03:23:18PM +1200, Martin Langhoff wrote:
At this stage, I am slowly hacking on ds-backup.py. My plan so far is to
Where can I find your code?
Nothing works yet :-/ - I intend to push it to a
I noticed today that my xo (newly 703) has cpp which while modest in size
seems to launch /usr/libexec/gcc/i386-redhat-linux/4.1.2/cc1 which weighs in
at 5.1Meg
Anybody know what this is used for? would either TCC or mcpp be up to the same
task?
This work
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 05:23:11PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
Also, I remain interested in pulling in other changes that close
existing bugs. Please suggest some plausible changes. (I'll suggest a
few myself in my next email).
Blake Setlow was the first to take me up on my offer; he asked me
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 04:57:40PM +1200, Neil Graham wrote:
I noticed today that my xo (newly 703) has cpp which while modest in size
seems to launch /usr/libexec/gcc/i386-redhat-linux/4.1.2/cc1 which weighs in
at 5.1Meg
rpm -q --whatrequires /usr/bin/cpp
rpm -qf /usr/bin/cpp
I am doing a talk in front of a large audience and would like to show
the XO's screen on a projector. I have a laptop which
can be projected and ideally would like to show the XO's screen on the
laptop. Other solutions (not a camera on the XO's screen) would be
considered.
Any suggestions.
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Yes, I was prompted for the language and time zone via a blue background
text-mode UI.
-Original Message-
From: Martin Langhoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:12 PM
To: Berkowitz Andrew (Project Connect)
Cc: John Watlington; server-devel
Subject: Re:
Sorry about that. The release notes for build 160 mentioned this
change,
but I stopped mentioning it in later release notes.
If you prefer the noauto build, we can generate it.
wad
On May 15, 2008, at 6:39 AM, Berkowitz Andrew (Project Connect) wrote:
Yes, I was prompted for the language
Hello,
FYI
Jesse padilla form Manizales, Colombia has uploaded some videos about XS
163 server build installation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjHpN7-XVKw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwvZsJYzJ_s
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2008/5/16 Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Jesse padilla form Manizales, Colombia has uploaded some videos about XS
163 server build installation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjHpN7-XVKw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwvZsJYzJ_s
Interesting!
The show the initial
Hi All,
I've been at this for days now and am only emailing out of desperation.
I'm on server build 161 (the 163 install didn't work on my hardware),
though I enabled the testing repos to get what I hope is closer to 163.
Anyway, I finally managed to trick the server into seeing a msh0
On May 15, 2008, at 9:31 PM, Anna wrote:
Hi All,
I've been at this for days now and am only emailing out of
desperation.
Hi, Anna. Good to hear from you again!
Please don't wait until you are desperate to drop us a note.
I'm on server build 161 (the 163 install didn't work on my
Thank you for the quick response, wad. I should have emailed earlier
instead of wasting all this time. At least I've learned more about the
networking setup.
wad:
What was the error when installing 163 ? We want to know about these
things!
163 installed just great at Glen Iris,
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 2:50 PM, John Watlington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ouch. That sounds familiar from early days of debugging the install.
It sounds like your Frankenmachine is a 586, and needs the restricted
kernel I put in build 161. The next major release should probably
include a 586
On May 15, 2008, at 10:56 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote:
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 2:50 PM, John Watlington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Ouch. That sounds familiar from early days of debugging the install.
It sounds like your Frankenmachine is a 586, and needs the restricted
kernel I put in build
Hi y'all, I am double posting for I do not know whose fish this is.
A teacher in Uruguay indicates issues with operating with mesh, two
others confirmed they had a similar experience of random connectivity.
Please help, either subscribe to OLPC-Sur to answer in Spanish or
respond through
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 3:04 PM, John Watlington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Indeed - working on [backups] right now.
Great. What approach are you taking (new thread, perhaps ?)
At this stage, I am slowly hacking on ds-backup.py. My plan so far is to
- Simplify ds-backup to
- do a simple
Hi
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 6:08 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
2008/5/16 Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Jesse padilla form Manizales, Colombia has uploaded some videos about XS
163 server build installation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjHpN7-XVKw
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 03:23:18PM +1200, Martin Langhoff wrote:
At this stage, I am slowly hacking on ds-backup.py. My plan so far is to
Where can I find your code?
Thanks,
Michael
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On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
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Yep i t is possible we will work on that ;).
Eso sería fantástico! :-)
m
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