On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 11:55 PM, Caryl Bigenho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for all your efforts!
The last time I used a midi keyboard with a Mac (it was a G3) it had to have
a special midi interface and then was just plug and play from there
using Finale as a program. In looking over your
1. Project name : Retroscope
2. Existing website, if any : none
3. One-line description : Activity showing live video, but delayed
1 to 10 seconds
4. Longer description : It's really that simple; working .xo
file attached to
:
Ed McNierney wrote:
What was the motivation for this upgrade? Why did we need to take the wiki
offline for several hours during our G1G1 promotion? Thanks.
It was offline for approximately 45 minutes (and it was mostly due to
a weird problem that took a while to figure out).
The main
Bernie -
We should *never* take our public-facing Web services offline deliberately
without scheduling that event in advance and sending warnings and reminders
of when that scheduled maintenance will occur. Never. There are a lot of
people who have been working very hard over the last few weeks
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 8:33 PM, Martin Langhoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What I meant to say is that all the good things we get from a bespoke
packaging format, we can get from rpm with a few conventions as to the
directories where things land.
A couple of additional notes from a private
Caryl, Chris, Scott, Ed, CJL, Greg, Marco and possibly others met on
IRC, Wed. December 3.
Next meeting December 10 2PM US ET. See agenda below.
Notes:
- XO camp update. See: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XOcamp_2
Comment that travel budget is not final but Ed is working on it.
Discussion about
Hi Chris et al,
We will have a one hour meeting from 2 - 3 PM US ET today (Thursday
12/4) to talk about power work for 9.1.
Everyone who wants to contribute is welcome. We will use this dial in:
From the United States
866-213-2185
From Outside the United States
Ed I was the one who made the decision to go forward with this upgrade. I
was present working with Bernie throughout.
This was discussed in the Tuesday sysadmin IRC meeting.
We have had numerous requests for these enhanced features such as
http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=23067
What
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 5:25 AM, Ed McNierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bernie -
We should *never* take our public-facing Web services offline deliberately
without scheduling that event in advance and sending warnings and reminders
of when that scheduled maintenance will occur. Never. There
Comments welcome.
I'm not sure if there is a ticket about this, but when my
recent-joyride G1G1 (which is plugged into AC) suspends, its screen
goes to half-bright -- and stays that way forever.
I don't know if this also happens with XOs which are not externally
powered - but I think there
David -
I don't understand that comment. What several efforts are you talking
about? I don't think there were several efforts to publicize this outage -
if so, the scope of those efforts wasn't sufficient IMHO.
- Ed
On 12/4/08 10:48 AM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri,
I don't understand that comment. What several efforts are you talking
about? I don't think there were several efforts to publicize this outage -
if so, the scope of those efforts wasn't sufficient IMHO.
Wouldn't a central location like an outages or maintenance mailing
list for all those
Is someone working on Neighborhood View for 9.1 ? I'm running
several XOs (two on latest joyride, one on 767), but they are not
connected to any servers. What I see in Neighborhood View is
inconsistent - none of the XOs sees all of the others, and who sees
whom changes from day to day.
When
Ed McNierney wrote:
Perhaps I missed it, but I do not recall any email review or discussion of
the value or need for either OpenID or a MediaWiki update, and I don't
understand how we made the decision that either was more valuable than
keeping one of our two major public sites online.
Reuben K. Caron wrote:
Thanks for clarification. Still no go:
Dec 4 12:12:24 schoolserver1 kernel: eth0: link up, 100Mbps,
full-duplex, lpa 0xC1E1
Dec 4 12:12:24 schoolserver1 kernel: eth0: link up, 100Mbps,
full-duplex, lpa 0xC1E1
Dec 4 12:12:24 schoolserver1 kernel: Ethernet Channel
Ed McNierney wrote:
David -
I don't understand that comment. What several efforts are you talking
about? I don't think there were several efforts to publicize this outage -
if so, the scope of those efforts wasn't sufficient IMHO.
I, for one, insistently tried to have a face to face
Yes, it is on the server. However isn't it a bit chicken and egg setting
an ip address that will be on the wire given that the device on the wire
is waiting for an ip address from the server?
Jerry Vonau wrote:
Reuben K. Caron wrote:
Thanks for clarification. Still no go:
Dec 4 12:12:24
Bernie -
Wiki.laptop.org is a public-facing Web site used by many, many people who
are not on devel@ or hunt for RT tickets or listen in on VIG meetings. Our
public services - especially during our G1G1 period - are mission-critical
and we cannot treat them casually.
Henry and I spoke briefly
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Reuben K. Caron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I too am having problems with DHCP (and ejabberd) on XS 0.5.
That's interesting! Thanks for the writeup...
I reviewed /etc/sysconfig/olpc-scripts/dhcpd.conf.1 - It did not match
dhcpd-xs.conf
I ran ./network-config 1
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Bernie Innocenti
Sorry if I reacted defensively, sending notifications to devel@ was
our best practice in the good old pre-G1G1 days, but, clearly, it's no
longer sufficient now. Establishing procedures for notifying planned
outages seems like a good course to
Martin Langhoff wrote:
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Reuben K. Caron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I too am having problems with DHCP (and ejabberd) on XS 0.5.
That's interesting! Thanks for the writeup...
I reviewed /etc/sysconfig/olpc-scripts/dhcpd.conf.1 - It did not match
Per Jerry's suggestion, I added this to /etc/modprobe.d/xs_bonding and
deleted stuff from the prior suggestion, though I can put that back in if
it's going to make a difference.
options lanbond0 mode=active-backup arp_interval=1000 arp_ip_target=
172.18.96.5
I went ahead and rebooted. I
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Reuben K. Caron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Installing_Software#Upgrading_from_XS_0.4_or_earlier
Does not include network-config. Should it?
As far as I tested... no. But I could be wrong about this.
Between 4 and 5, the %post install
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Bernie Innocenti
Sorry if I reacted defensively, sending notifications to devel@ was
our best practice in the good old pre-G1G1 days, but, clearly, it's no
longer sufficient now. Establishing
Also, bernie checked 'secrets.php' into git during his upgrade. Thank
goodness this wasn't pushed to dev!
--scott
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On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Ed McNierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David -
I don't understand that comment. What several efforts are you talking
about? I don't think there were several efforts to publicize this outage -
if so, the scope of those efforts wasn't sufficient IMHO.
I was
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:47 PM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was speaking of larger communication issues.
Whoa, David -- is it necessary to assume malice? I don't think your
tone is helpful in this case.
The thanksgiving holidays intervened, and Michael Stone isn't even
back from
Actually, I just tried a clean install and DHCP doesn't come up. When I
check status it continues to tell me that I must run network-config and
domain-config before DHPCd can start; even though I have run those
repeatedly.
Reuben
Martin Langhoff wrote:
Clean 0.5
installs work better for
C. Scott Ananian wrote:
Incidentally, we have laid the groundwork to have safe sandbox
versions of all our important services where changes can be tested
prior to being made on the live site. This wiki upgrade would have
been a perfect opportunity to use a sandbox.
Yeah, I remember someone
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 1:49 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:47 PM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was speaking of larger communication issues.
Whoa, David -- is it necessary to assume malice? I don't think your
tone is helpful in this case.
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Reuben K. Caron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually, I just tried a clean install and DHCP doesn't come up. When I
check status it continues to tell me that I must run network-config and
domain-config before DHPCd can start; even though I have run those
Let's keep this discussion civil...
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:47 PM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Ed McNierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was speaking of larger communication issues.
Great. Can we resolve them by providing more and more regular (and
Without meaning to undervalue the significance of this thread, it does
not seem to pertain anymore to the subject of the devel list whose
description is Software development mailing list
(http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/) :-) I refer to devel's description
for the sake of completeness, not
[dropping olpc-sysadmin@ from the cc list, updating the topic]
Samuel Klein wrote:
I was speaking of larger communication issues.
Great. Can we resolve them by providing more and more regular (and
more public!) information? Communication issues are rarely fixed by
throwing pies.
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Bernie Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Samuel Klein wrote:
I was speaking of larger communication issues.
Great. Can we resolve them by providing more and more regular (and
more public!) information? Communication issues are rarely fixed by
throwing
Hi Yifan,
Sounds like a good idea!
I made a feature for you to track this work on our roadmap at:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Feature_roadmap#Spell_checker_in_write
Fill in more details as you have them and other people can sign up to
help there too.
FYI all,
I'm making a last push to get
Samuel Klein wrote:
Agreed. I think for the past 4 months or so, since we started to get
double our previous traffic, significant steady use of our sites by
Uruguay, and (in particular) a stronger dependence on w.l.o and l.o by
deployments and press events,
* we no longer have 'safe' times
Greg, Chris, Joe, Erik, Mitch and Deepak met on Thursday 12/4.
Minutes:
Will use the feature roadmap for tracking:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Feature_roadmap#Power_management
We need to address the three separate high level areas on that page.
We rewrote the requirement and listed all bugs and
Hi Greg,
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Feature_roadmap#Linux_and_OS
Any comments welcome. Do they make sense? Are they well defined?
What else do we need to track?
FWIW, I think this is the first I've heard of:
Must allow switching between Fedora 10 with a conventional desktop
Hi,
This is the case for the official Fedora 10. It need not be the
case for an rpm-based system built out of the Fedora 10
repositories. I am currently working on a solution which should
comfortably fit into the 1 GB of NAND FLASH. Call it a respin.
rpmxo.
* So we'd ship
Anna wrote:
Per Jerry's suggestion, I added this to /etc/modprobe.d/xs_bonding and
deleted stuff from the prior suggestion, though I can put that back in if
it's going to make a difference.
options lanbond0 mode=active-backup arp_interval=1000 arp_ip_target=
172.18.96.5
I went ahead and
Hi Erik, Peter and Chris,
Thanks a lot for the comments and offer of help!
I updated the requirement to explain that the idea is a slimmed down
version of Fedora which fits on our NAND.
I added a comment about upgrading too.
Here are some comments on the rest of Chris's questions:
* So we'd
Thanks for all your efforts!
The last time I used a midi keyboard with a Mac (it was a G3) it had to have a
special midi interface and then was just plug and play from there using
Finale as a program. In looking over your discussion below, it looks like you
did manage to get a midi keyboard
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Jerry Vonau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
auto-negotiation appears to be failing, setting the card to a down state.
Ok think we need to set the speed of the card by hand, via ifcfg-eth1 file,
could you add:
ETHTOOL_OPTS= speed 10/100/1000 duplex half/full autoneg
* So we'd ship two different distributions on the NAND?
GS - Yes.
Why are we planning on shipping two distros? Or am I missing
something? As OLPC is essentially based on Fedora and isn't that
divergent (and we're trying to make is less so) would we not be aiming
for two different desktop
On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 06:36:53PM -0500, Greg Smith wrote:
Hi Erik, Peter and Chris,
Thanks a lot for the comments and offer of help!
I updated the requirement to explain that the idea is a slimmed down
version of Fedora which fits on our NAND.
I added a comment about upgrading too.
On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 06:36:53PM -0500, Greg Smith wrote:
[Chris] So we'd ship two different distributions on the NAND?
GS - Yes.
GS: I think you meant desktop environments, not distributions.
Greg S
Martin
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Hi All,
I'm copying in Devel and will drop the sugar list on further replies
(hope that's the right netiquette in this case...).
Of all the e-mails I have sent this week I never would have guess that
this one would generate the most responses! Maybe it was the use of the
term SSO :(
I
Hi Martin and Peter,
Sorry got my Linux terminology a little munged there.
I meant that we would ship a Sugar interface and a standard Fedora
X-Window interface (e.g. XFCE) on the same NAND. I should have said
desktop environments as Martin notes.
Thanks for the tips and comments. You can
(I've cut away everything else, to which I entirely agree)
Samuel Klein wrote:
We apparently discussed it for a while, but I still didn't get around
to catch up with my email. All I know for sure is that this time I'll
just sit back and enjoy the conference as a guest. ;-)
I'm sure you
Hi,
I meant that we would ship a Sugar interface and a standard
Fedora X-Window interface (e.g. XFCE) on the same NAND. I should
have said desktop environments as Martin notes.
Okay, I see, that sounds good. If we're comfortable with Xfce, it
sounds like we should resurrect Scott's
I second the motion of putting the xfce as an option in the control
panel. As these kids with the
machine get older, it gives them an option to continue learning and
using a machine that will
come closer to matching those in business.
I have been playing with the gentoo xo spin, and it boots
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 19:17, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm copying in Devel and will drop the sugar list on further replies
(hope that's the right netiquette in this case...).
(note: I'm not on devel, so please keep me CC'd)
security) who are the principals?
what are
chris wrote:
Hi,
I meant that we would ship a Sugar interface and a standard
Fedora X-Window interface (e.g. XFCE) on the same NAND. I should
have said desktop environments as Martin notes.
Okay, I see, that sounds good. If we're comfortable with Xfce, it
sounds like
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Bernie Innocenti
I'd volunteer to work on a testwiki.laptop.org running a copy of
Mediawiki with its own database, where we could performs upgrades.
OK, but I think it's often unnecessary for wikis - you can switch the
db to read-only mode instead.
SJ
Hi,
is xfce the right choice? i know it's easy, but we should be
sure it's correct. (i've been using it on my own xo, in a
relatively unsophisticated way, but in the end that only makes it
feel like an unsophisticated interface, so i may not be the best
judge. :-)
I agree
On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Chris Ball wrote:
Hi,
is xfce the right choice? i know it's easy, but we should be
sure it's correct. (i've been using it on my own xo, in a
relatively unsophisticated way, but in the end that only makes it
feel like an unsophisticated interface, so i may
Hi,
debxo manages to fit a gnome build in a small enough space to fit
on the NAND
I agree that there exist smaller distributions than Fedora 10, but that
doesn't make F10 one of them (yet). Still, it's nice to have a proof of
concept, and the delta of debxo's gnome.img - sugar.img (80M)
Samuel Klein wrote:
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Bernie Innocenti
I'd volunteer to work on a testwiki.laptop.org running a copy of
Mediawiki with its own database, where we could performs upgrades.
OK, but I think it's often unnecessary for wikis - you can switch the
db to read-only mode
Chris Ball wrote:
Hi,
is xfce the right choice? i know it's easy, but we should be
sure it's correct. (i've been using it on my own xo, in a
relatively unsophisticated way, but in the end that only makes it
feel like an unsophisticated interface, so i may not be the best
On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 01:47:02PM +1800, David Farning wrote:
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Ed McNierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David -
I don't understand that comment. What several efforts are you talking
about? I don't think there were several efforts to publicize this outage -
if
Wiki.laptop.org is a public-facing Web site used by many, many people who
are not on devel@ or hunt for RT tickets or listen in on VIG meetings. Our
public services - especially during our G1G1 period - are mission-critical
and we cannot treat them casually.
While I sympathize with the use
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Jerry Vonau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ensure that you set both the role and domain name for the server while
the network is stopped, saves seeing some error messages when you
restart, then (re)start the network and restart all the web based
services. or you could
2008/12/3 Anna [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Has anyone gotten eth1 on XS 0.5 working?
I have, at least on 4 different bits of hw, but I worked on it too
much to be a good tester of it. Others have installed successfully.
One thing that 0.5 has is that it almost always picks the ordering of
the NICs _in
I too am having problems with DHCP (and ejabberd) on XS 0.5.
Let me detail my steps
Appended upgradeany- ran default install
Restarted
NICs were swapped.
Ran xs-swapnics
Check var/log/messages found (snipet):
Dec 4 09:36:58 schoolserver1 dhcpd: Listening on
Anna wrote:
I tried the XS 0.5 install on another box to see if the LAN issues on my
previous attempt were a hardware problem or something. It's a different
model Dell with 2 nics.
Here are my notes:
Basic install from the CD, text mode, default everything.
Boot up, then:
Reuben K. Caron wrote:
I too am having problems with DHCP (and ejabberd) on XS 0.5.
Let me detail my steps
Appended upgradeany- ran default install
Restarted
NICs were swapped.
Ran xs-swapnics
Check var/log/messages found (snipet):
Dec 4 09:36:58 schoolserver1 dhcpd: Listening on
Jerry Vonau wrote:
Reuben K. Caron wrote:
I too am having problems with DHCP (and ejabberd) on XS 0.5.
Let me detail my steps
Appended upgradeany- ran default install
Restarted
NICs were swapped.
Ran xs-swapnics
Check var/log/messages found (snipet):
Dec 4 09:36:58 schoolserver1
Thanks for clarification. Still no go:
Dec 4 12:12:24 schoolserver1 kernel: eth0: link up, 100Mbps,
full-duplex, lpa 0xC1E1
Dec 4 12:12:24 schoolserver1 kernel: eth0: link up, 100Mbps,
full-duplex, lpa 0xC1E1
Dec 4 12:12:24 schoolserver1 kernel: Ethernet Channel Bonding Driver:
v3.3.0 (June
Not having done this before, and after getting syntax errors and command not
found for speed, I googled and edited
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1 like so. I figured 100 might be a
good place to start. I haven't tried half duplex yet, but I can if you
think that would do anything.
Anna wrote:
Not having done this before, and after getting syntax errors and command not
found for speed, I googled and edited
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1 like so. I figured 100 might be a
good place to start. I haven't tried half duplex yet, but I can if you
think that would
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 6:29 PM, Jerry Vonau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK, I'm out of ideas, lets see if we can configure eth1 without bonding,
not sure if this is nic driver issue with bonding, or what...
backup the ifcfg-eth1 file, copy ifcfg-landbond0, ifcfg-lanbond0:1
ifcfg-lanbond0:2 and
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