Re: [Development] Some Qt3D feedback

2015-06-11 Thread Stephen Kelly
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Marc Mutz marc.m...@kdab.com wrote: On Wednesday 10 June 2015 21:03:32 Stephen Kelly wrote: I would encourage a discussion of why this module needs namespaces when the rest of Qt gets by without them. There is certainly a consistency angle. I think you come

Re: [Development] Some Qt3D feedback

2015-06-11 Thread Stephen Kelly
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Marc Mutz marc.m...@kdab.com wrote: I was listing namespaces that are used in Qt already. That was to rebut your claim that the use of a namespace for a Qt library is new. I didn't make any claim that the use of a namespace for a Qt library is new. Whatever

Re: [Development] Qt 5.5.0 header diff

2015-06-11 Thread Knoll Lars
On 11/06/15 12:29, Knoll Lars lars.kn...@theqtcompany.com wrote: qtwebengine A src/webenginewidgets/api/qwebenginedownloaditem.h A src/webenginewidgets/api/qwebengineprofile.h A src/webenginewidgets/api/qwebenginescript.h A src/webenginewidgets/api/qwebenginescriptcollection.h Some smaller

Re: [Development] Qt 5.5.0 header diff

2015-06-11 Thread Knoll Lars
On 11/06/15 14:28, Marc Mutz marc.m...@kdab.com wrote: On Thursday 11 June 2015 12:29:06 Knoll Lars wrote: A src/network/ssl/qsslellipticcurve.h A src/network/ssl/qsslpresharedkeyauthenticator.h Fine imho (but I was partially involved in their upbringing, so another set of eyes wouldn't

Re: [Development] Some Qt3D feedback

2015-06-11 Thread Sean Harmer
On Wednesday 10 Jun 2015 21:09:15 Stephen Kelly wrote: Stephen Kelly wrote: Sean Harmer wrote: 1) The include/Qt3DCore/Window file doesn't have a Q prefix. as every other header does. Should probably be Qt3DWindow. Right, this actually needs removing and something temporary putting

Re: [Development] Some Qt3D feedback

2015-06-11 Thread Sean Harmer
Hi Steve, On Wednesday 10 Jun 2015 21:03:32 Stephen Kelly wrote: 5) Qt3D namespace This is the first time that all classes in a library are in a namespace. Previously only enums (in various modules) and free functions (in QtConcurrent) have been put in namespaces. In

Re: [Development] Some Qt3D feedback

2015-06-11 Thread Marc Mutz
On Thursday 11 June 2015 13:09:39 Stephen Kelly wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Marc Mutz marc.m...@kdab.com wrote: I was listing namespaces that are used in Qt already. That was to rebut your claim that the use of a namespace for a Qt library is new. I didn't make any claim that

Re: [Development] Some Qt3D feedback

2015-06-11 Thread Marc Mutz
On Wednesday 10 June 2015 21:03:32 Stephen Kelly wrote: I would encourage a discussion of why this module needs namespaces when the rest of Qt gets by without them. There is certainly a consistency angle. I think you come a few years late :) QtPatternist QtConcurrent QTest QV4 QtQml

Re: [Development] Some Qt3D feedback

2015-06-11 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:29:34PM +0200, Marc Mutz wrote: So even if we follow your reasoning, Qt3D is doing nothing that QtConcurrent and QtXmlPatterns, combined, haven't been doing for years. So the only new thing is that instead of separate libraries, it's now used in one. the thing is

Re: [Development] Qt 5.5.0 header diff

2015-06-11 Thread Marc Mutz
On Thursday 11 June 2015 12:29:06 Knoll Lars wrote: A src/multimedia/camera/qcameraviewfindersettings.h Aprt from the changes already uploaded to Gerrit, I would suggest to use the new QCamera::FrameRateRange class instead of separate minimumFrameRate/maximumFrameRate properties. That *may*

Re: [Development] Qt 5.5.0 header diff

2015-06-11 Thread Knoll Lars
On 11/06/15 11:38, Marc Mutz marc.m...@kdab.com wrote: On Tuesday 09 June 2015 13:35:14 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: On Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 10:59:32AM +, Heikkinen Jani wrote: Hi, I tried to create error reports about the findings to be able to follow-up the progress. Please create

[Development] Announcement: Deprecating QNX 6.5.0

2015-06-11 Thread Rafael Roquetto
Hello, It was agreed during this year's Qt Contributors Summit that, as of Qt 5.6, QNX 6.5.0 will no longer be supported. Therefore, it is being marked as deprecated for Qt 5.5. Among other reasons, the lack of proper C++11 support stood as the main driving factor to this. Support for QNX 6.6 is

Re: [Development] Qt 5.5.0 header diff

2015-06-11 Thread Knoll Lars
On 11/06/15 14:19, Marc Mutz marc.m...@kdab.com wrote: On Thursday 11 June 2015 12:29:06 Knoll Lars wrote: A src/multimedia/camera/qcameraviewfindersettings.h Aprt from the changes already uploaded to Gerrit, I would suggest to use the new QCamera::FrameRateRange class instead of separate

Re: [Development] Qt 5.5.0 header diff

2015-06-11 Thread Knoll Lars
On 11/06/15 10:55, Knoll Lars lars.kn...@theqtcompany.com wrote: On 11/06/15 11:38, Marc Mutz marc.m...@kdab.com wrote: On Tuesday 09 June 2015 13:35:14 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: On Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 10:59:32AM +, Heikkinen Jani wrote: Hi, I tried to create error reports about the

Re: [Development] Specifying module dependencies

2015-06-11 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 08:32:07PM +, Hausmann Simon wrote: Hi, Ok :) let's try with reduced qmake syntax (just variables, no functions). We can still fall back to json if it's too clumsy. as you can parse anything, what's wrong with parsing the function calls from qt.pro? they match a

Re: [Development] Qt 5.5.0 header diff

2015-06-11 Thread Marc Mutz
On Thursday 11 June 2015 12:29:06 Knoll Lars wrote: Qt Location: The APIs underwent some changes from the 4.8 mobility API, but the module got a good review during Nokia times. The QtMultimedia changes I uploaded and described in my previous mail show what - IMHO - needs to be done to each of

Re: [Development] Avoid overloading of 'error'

2015-06-11 Thread Hausmann Simon
Hi, I agree about the inconsistency in tense, that is a good argument against error(), although it is similarly unfortunate that the inconsistency in tense is more widespread than assumed. I'm not sure onErred or onErrored is any better, to be honest. I think it's more likely to result in a

Re: [Development] QSceneGraph debugging

2015-06-11 Thread Thomas Senyk
On 11.06.2015 15:50, Gunnar Sletta wrote: Hi Thomas, You are hitting one of the less ideal code paths with this testcase, see my comments below. I think the core problems are already outlined in https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-42853. On 11 Jun 2015, at 14:32, Thomas Senyk

Re: [Development] Specifying module dependencies

2015-06-11 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 03:43:15PM +0200, Simon Hausmann wrote: On Thursday, June 11, 2015 12:29:10 PM Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 08:32:07PM +, Hausmann Simon wrote: Hi, Ok :) let's try with reduced qmake syntax (just variables, no functions). We can

Re: [Development] Some Qt3D feedback

2015-06-11 Thread Stephen Kelly
Marc Mutz wrote: On Thursday 11 June 2015 13:09:39 Stephen Kelly wrote: I didn't make any claim that the use of a namespace for a Qt library is new. Whatever you rebutted was not my claim. So, you believe there is no use in pursuing any of the questions I asked here:

Re: [Development] Some Qt3D feedback

2015-06-11 Thread Sean Harmer
On Thursday 11 June 2015 19:42:55 Stephen Kelly wrote: Marc Mutz wrote: On Thursday 11 June 2015 13:09:39 Stephen Kelly wrote: I didn't make any claim that the use of a namespace for a Qt library is new. Whatever you rebutted was not my claim. So, you believe there is no use in

Re: [Development] Some Qt3D feedback

2015-06-11 Thread Stephen Kelly
Sean Harmer wrote: On Thursday 11 June 2015 19:42:55 Stephen Kelly wrote: Marc Mutz wrote: On Thursday 11 June 2015 13:09:39 Stephen Kelly wrote: I didn't make any claim that the use of a namespace for a Qt library is new. Whatever you rebutted was not my claim. So, you believe

Re: [Development] Some Qt3D feedback

2015-06-11 Thread Stephen Kelly
Sean Harmer wrote: I don't know. As far as I know deciding to use a namespace for this one was done without discussion on the mailing list? There has been at least some discussion of namespaces in the past. For e.g.

Re: [Development] Avoid overloading of 'error'

2015-06-11 Thread Alan Alpert
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 7:11 AM, Hausmann Simon simon.hausm...@theqtcompany.com wrote: Hi, I agree about the inconsistency in tense, that is a good argument against error(), although it is similarly unfortunate that the inconsistency in tense is more widespread than assumed. I'm not

Re: [Development] [QtCS] QtRemoteObjects Session Summary

2015-06-11 Thread Alan Alpert
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 7:21 PM, Stottlemyer, Brett (B.S.) bstot...@ford.com wrote: Hi Alan. Hi Simon. On 6/10/15, 4:23 PM, Alan Alpert 4163654...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 6:52 AM, Simon Hausmann simon.hausm...@theqtcompany.com wrote: On Tuesday, June 09, 2015 01:23:29 PM Alan

Re: [Development] Qt 5.5.0 header diff

2015-06-11 Thread André Pönitz
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 08:55:24AM +, Knoll Lars wrote: On Tuesday 09 June 2015 13:35:14 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: On Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 10:59:32AM +, Heikkinen Jani wrote: Hi, I tried to create error reports about the findings to be able to follow-up the progress. Please

Re: [Development] Specifying module dependencies

2015-06-11 Thread Simon Hausmann
On Thursday, June 11, 2015 12:29:10 PM Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 08:32:07PM +, Hausmann Simon wrote: Hi, Ok :) let's try with reduced qmake syntax (just variables, no functions). We can still fall back to json if it's too clumsy. as you can parse anything,

Re: [Development] Qt 5.5.0 header diff

2015-06-11 Thread André Somers
Marc Mutz schreef op 11-6-2015 om 16:33: BTW: Can someone send a summary of Qt 5.6 vs. C++11 to the ML, for those that couldn't attend? I made notes. Available from here: https://wiki.qt.io/QtCS2015_ModernCpp André ___ Development mailing list

Re: [Development] Qt 5.5.0 header diff

2015-06-11 Thread Knoll Lars
On 11/06/15 16:26, Marc Mutz marc.m...@kdab.com wrote: On Thursday 11 June 2015 13:56:12 Knoll Lars wrote: - QAbstractVideoFilter should re-use QObject::d_ptr instead of adding its own (though its unclear why it's inheriting QObject in the first place). It could, since the module depends

[Development] QSceneGraph debugging

2015-06-11 Thread Thomas Senyk
Hi, currently trying to debug a weird behavior on a TI chip (armv7 with a SGX GPU). I have a fairly simple QML with a simple GridView with model:200 and delegate:Text{text: T#+index}. (it's a tiny bit more then that, but for argument sake this should be enough) Then an animation scrolling

Re: [Development] Qt 5.5.0 header diff

2015-06-11 Thread Knoll Lars
On 11/06/15 16:33, Marc Mutz marc.m...@kdab.com wrote: On Thursday 11 June 2015 13:43:15 Knoll Lars wrote: Well, QSslEllipticCurve is problematic IMO. The class only contains one int and accesses it inline. Since we might have other backends than openssl implementing this in the future, I’d

Re: [Development] QSceneGraph debugging

2015-06-11 Thread Gunnar Sletta
Hi Thomas, You are hitting one of the less ideal code paths with this testcase, see my comments below. I think the core problems are already outlined in https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-42853. On 11 Jun 2015, at 14:32, Thomas Senyk thomas.se...@pelagicore.com wrote: Hi, currently

Re: [Development] Qt 5.5.0 header diff

2015-06-11 Thread Marc Mutz
On Thursday 11 June 2015 13:56:12 Knoll Lars wrote: - QAbstractVideoFilter should re-use QObject::d_ptr instead of adding its own (though its unclear why it's inheriting QObject in the first place). It could, since the module depends on private apis in Qt Core anyway. Still, no show

Re: [Development] Qt 5.5.0 header diff

2015-06-11 Thread Marc Mutz
On Thursday 11 June 2015 13:43:15 Knoll Lars wrote: Well, QSslEllipticCurve is problematic IMO. The class only contains one int and accesses it inline. Since we might have other backends than openssl implementing this in the future, I’d like have this non inline and a qint64 as data type (so

Re: [Development] Specifying module dependencies

2015-06-11 Thread Gladhorn Frederik
On Thursday 11. June 2015 18.47.40 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 03:43:15PM +0200, Simon Hausmann wrote: On Thursday, June 11, 2015 12:29:10 PM Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 08:32:07PM +, Hausmann Simon wrote: Hi, Ok :) let's try with

Re: [Development] Some Qt3D feedback

2015-06-11 Thread André Pönitz
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 06:46:54PM +0100, Sean Harmer wrote: On Thursday 11 June 2015 19:42:55 Stephen Kelly wrote: Marc Mutz wrote: On Thursday 11 June 2015 13:09:39 Stephen Kelly wrote: I didn't make any claim that the use of a namespace for a Qt library is new. Whatever you

Re: [Development] Qt 5.5.0 header diff

2015-06-11 Thread Marc Mutz
On Thursday 11 June 2015 22:07:00 André Pönitz wrote: To be blunt: Even though some of the existing patterns and conventions are unfashionable in 2015, consistency is a value by itself. Any partial modernization of the API destroys that consistency, and therefore value. So even if use pattern

Re: [Development] Some Qt3D feedback

2015-06-11 Thread Marc Mutz
On Thursday 11 June 2015 23:15:20 André Pönitz wrote: That's exactly the kind of situation I was referring to in my previous mail: This is intentionally introducing API inconsistency. It does not really matter to me whether poor-man's prefix name spacing is unfashionable or we consider it bad.

Re: [Development] Qt 5.5.0 header diff

2015-06-11 Thread Marc Mutz
On Friday 12 June 2015 00:28:05 Marc Mutz wrote: On Thursday 11 June 2015 22:07:00 André Pönitz wrote: To be blunt: Even though some of the existing patterns and conventions are unfashionable in 2015, consistency is a value by itself. Any partial modernization of the API destroys that

Re: [Development] New Qt5.5.0-RC snapshot available

2015-06-11 Thread Heikkinen Jani
No, I don't need empty files ;) I didn't check the git log, just checked which ones are missing Br, Jani -Original Message- From: Alan Alpert [mailto:4163654...@gmail.com] Sent: 10. kesäkuuta 2015 0:08 To: Heikkinen Jani Cc: development@qt-project.org; releas...@qt-project.org Subject:

Re: [Development] Avoid overloading of 'error'

2015-06-11 Thread Christian Kandeler
On 06/10/2015 06:42 PM, Thiago Macieira wrote: On Wednesday 10 June 2015 15:14:07 Hausmann Simon wrote: Hi, I think renaming the getter to lastError is nice! I however do like error as signal name and it looks good in qml as onError:... onError screams of Basic to me... ON ERROR GO

Re: [Development] Avoid overloading of 'error'

2015-06-11 Thread Smith Martin
onError is immediately understood by all sentient beings in the universe. martin From: development-bounces+martin.smith=theqtcompany@qt-project.org development-bounces+martin.smith=theqtcompany@qt-project.org on behalf of Christian Kandeler

[Development] New Qt5.5.0-rc snapshot available

2015-06-11 Thread Heikkinen Jani
Hi all, We have new snapshot in Linux: https://download.qt.io/snapshots/qt/5.5/5.5.0-rc/2015-06-10_111/ Mac: https://download.qt.io/snapshots/qt/5.5/5.5.0-rc/2015-06-10_93/ Windows: https://download.qt.io/snapshots/qt/5.5/5.5.0-rc/2015-06-10_89/ Src:

Re: [Development] Qt 5.5.0 header diff

2015-06-11 Thread Marc Mutz
On Tuesday 09 June 2015 13:35:14 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: On Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 10:59:32AM +, Heikkinen Jani wrote: Hi, I tried to create error reports about the findings to be able to follow-up the progress. Please create new one if something is missing. the point was about

Re: [Development] QSceneGraph debugging

2015-06-11 Thread Gunnar Sletta
On 11 Jun 2015, at 16:16, Thomas Senyk thomas.se...@pelagicore.com wrote: … Nothing in the UI is entering/leaving screen or explicitly created/destroyed ... so I wonder where the new Node comes from. I'll look closer at what the Node is. QSG_VISUALIZE=changes and/or