Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On 07/15/2017 11:35 PM, Phil Bouchard wrote: On 07/15/2017 01:18 PM, Phil Bouchard wrote: On 07/15/2017 12:59 PM, Thiago Macieira wrote: On sábado, 15 de julho de 2017 09:39:20 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: Yes of course, I should have anticipated that. So one option left would be to: - compile

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On 07/15/2017 01:18 PM, Phil Bouchard wrote: On 07/15/2017 12:59 PM, Thiago Macieira wrote: On sábado, 15 de julho de 2017 09:39:20 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: Yes of course, I should have anticipated that. So one option left would be to: - compile the Javascript file for each architecture /

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On 07/15/2017 07:49 PM, Phil Bouchard wrote: On 07/15/2017 07:21 PM, Tim Blechmann wrote: fwiw, to get this thread back to the main topic, i still fail to see how root_ptr deals with objects which are reachable from multiple roots, which have independent lifetime Please provide an example.

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On 07/15/2017 09:46 PM, Phil Bouchard wrote: On 07/15/2017 07:32 PM, Phil Bouchard wrote: On 07/15/2017 04:58 PM, Phil Bouchard wrote: On 07/15/2017 02:26 PM, Phil Bouchard wrote: On 07/15/2017 02:17 PM, Tim Blechmann wrote: fwiw, to get this thread back to the main topic, i still fail to

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On 07/15/2017 07:32 PM, Phil Bouchard wrote: On 07/15/2017 04:58 PM, Phil Bouchard wrote: On 07/15/2017 02:26 PM, Phil Bouchard wrote: On 07/15/2017 02:17 PM, Tim Blechmann wrote: fwiw, to get this thread back to the main topic, i still fail to see how root_ptr deals with objects which are

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On 07/15/2017 07:21 PM, Tim Blechmann wrote: fwiw, to get this thread back to the main topic, i still fail to see how root_ptr deals with objects which are reachable from multiple roots, which have independent lifetime Please provide an example. i've posted some already I'm working on the

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On 07/15/2017 04:58 PM, Phil Bouchard wrote: On 07/15/2017 02:26 PM, Phil Bouchard wrote: On 07/15/2017 02:17 PM, Tim Blechmann wrote: fwiw, to get this thread back to the main topic, i still fail to see how root_ptr deals with objects which are reachable from multiple roots, which have

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

fwiw, to get this thread back to the main topic, i still fail to see how root_ptr deals with objects which are reachable from multiple roots, which have independent lifetime >>> >>> Please provide an example. >> >> i've posted some already > > I'm working on the parser right

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On 07/15/2017 02:26 PM, Phil Bouchard wrote: On 07/15/2017 02:17 PM, Tim Blechmann wrote: fwiw, to get this thread back to the main topic, i still fail to see how root_ptr deals with objects which are reachable from multiple roots, which have independent lifetime Please provide an example.

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On 07/15/2017 02:17 PM, Tim Blechmann wrote: fwiw, to get this thread back to the main topic, i still fail to see how root_ptr deals with objects which are reachable from multiple roots, which have independent lifetime Please provide an example. i've posted some already I'm working on the

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

>> fwiw, to get this thread back to the main topic, i still fail to see how >> root_ptr deals with objects which are reachable from multiple roots, >> which have independent lifetime > > Please provide an example. i've posted some already ___

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

> Oh sorry they did invent Minesweeper and Basic, I give them that... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dartmouth_BASIC -- fwiw, to get this thread back to the main topic, i still fail to see how root_ptr deals with objects which are reachable from multiple roots, which have independent lifetime

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On 07/15/2017 12:59 PM, Thiago Macieira wrote: On sábado, 15 de julho de 2017 09:39:20 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: Yes of course, I should have anticipated that. So one option left would be to: - compile the Javascript file for each architecture / platform - link that "jex" to a portable dynamic

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On sábado, 15 de julho de 2017 09:39:20 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: > Yes of course, I should have anticipated that. So one option left would > be to: > - compile the Javascript file for each architecture / platform > - link that "jex" to a portable dynamic library API > - run native containers

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On 07/15/2017 02:56 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote: On sexta-feira, 14 de julho de 2017 12:13:52 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: [1] https://clearlinux.org/features/intel%C2%AE-clear-containers I understand but what's the problem with containers? I think Linux containers are also supported under

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On sexta-feira, 14 de julho de 2017 12:13:52 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: > > [1] https://clearlinux.org/features/intel%C2%AE-clear-containers > > I understand but what's the problem with containers? I think Linux > containers are also supported under Windows. Obviously some efforts will > have to

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On 07/14/2017 12:58 AM, Phil Bouchard wrote: On 07/13/2017 10:32 AM, Grégoire Barbier wrote: Le 13/07/2017 à 14:33, Phil Bouchard a écrit : Sérgio Martins wrote: On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 4:54 AM, Phil Bouchard wrote: Anyway I'm deviating from

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

Thiago Macieira wrote: > On sexta-feira, 14 de julho de 2017 10:08:13 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: >>> Please read up a little on a subject before you make such an outlandish >>> suggestion. >> >> Yes sorry that was just a quick guess but in Linux you can run Linux >>

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On sexta-feira, 14 de julho de 2017 10:08:13 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: > > Please read up a little on a subject before you make such an outlandish > > suggestion. > > Yes sorry that was just a quick guess but in Linux you can run Linux > containers which do the same but with minimal overhead. A

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

Thiago Macieira wrote: > On sexta-feira, 14 de julho de 2017 05:06:14 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: >>> Except for the fact that no browser would ever download and execute >>> untrusted binaries like that. >>> >>> The closest is Native Client (NaCl). >> >> You force that

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On sexta-feira, 14 de julho de 2017 05:06:14 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: > > Except for the fact that no browser would ever download and execute > > untrusted binaries like that. > > > > The closest is Native Client (NaCl). > > You force that Javascript executable (".jex" file) to run inside some >

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On 07/14/2017 03:18 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote: On quinta-feira, 13 de julho de 2017 17:32:58 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: You just helped me figure something out: people want speed, right? - You offer a service which converts and compiles all Javascript files for most popular architectures (i386,

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

André Pönitz (13 July 2017 19:20) > There's no sensible reason to postpone "compilation" to run-time > on a million feeble devices if there's any sensible way to do it > ahead of time once on a beefy developer machine. On the other hand, doing run-time optimisation (which is one of the benefits a

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

14.07.2017, 10:18, "Thiago Macieira" : > On quinta-feira, 13 de julho de 2017 17:32:58 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: >>  You just helped me figure something out: people want speed, right? >> >>  - You offer a service which converts and compiles all Javascript files >>  for

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On quinta-feira, 13 de julho de 2017 17:32:58 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: > You just helped me figure something out: people want speed, right? > > - You offer a service which converts and compiles all Javascript files > for most popular architectures (i386, x86_64, ARM, MIPS, ...) > - You cache

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On 07/13/2017 10:32 AM, Grégoire Barbier wrote: Le 13/07/2017 à 14:33, Phil Bouchard a écrit : Sérgio Martins wrote: On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 4:54 AM, Phil Bouchard wrote: Anyway I'm deviating from QNodePtr but I just don't understand the hype about

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On 07/13/2017 10:32 AM, Grégoire Barbier wrote: Le 13/07/2017 à 14:33, Phil Bouchard a écrit : I'm working on it; it shouldn't take too long. <3 « I have discovered a truly marvelous proof of this, which this margin is too narrow to contain. » Pierre de Fermat, 1637 A.D. Took 356 years to

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On 07/13/2017 01:20 PM, André Pönitz wrote: On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:54:54PM -0400, Phil Bouchard wrote: On 07/12/2017 10:28 PM, Thiago Macieira wrote: On quarta-feira, 12 de julho de 2017 12:34:35 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: I don't know about you but a minimalist version of g++ embedded

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

André Pönitz wrote: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:54:54PM -0400, Phil Bouchard wrote: > On 07/12/2017 10:28 PM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > >On quarta-feira, 12 de julho de 2017 12:34:35 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: > >>I don't know about you but a minimalist version of g++ embedded

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:54:54PM -0400, Phil Bouchard wrote: > On 07/12/2017 10:28 PM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > >On quarta-feira, 12 de julho de 2017 12:34:35 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: > >>I don't know about you but a minimalist version of g++ embedded inside the > >>browser could be beneficial

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

Grégoire Barbier wrote: > Le 13/07/2017 à 14:33, Phil Bouchard a écrit : > Sérgio Martins wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 4:54 AM, Phil Bouchard wrote: >>> Anyway I'm deviating from QNodePtr but I just don't understand the hype >>>

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

Le 13/07/2017 à 14:33, Phil Bouchard a écrit : Sérgio Martins wrote: On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 4:54 AM, Phil Bouchard wrote: Anyway I'm deviating from QNodePtr but I just don't understand the hype about JIT when it doesn't seem it has been compared to

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

Sérgio Martins wrote: > On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 4:54 AM, Phil Bouchard wrote: >> Anyway I'm deviating from QNodePtr but I just don't understand the hype >> about JIT when it doesn't seem it has been compared to a Javascript compiler >> because none

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 4:54 AM, Phil Bouchard wrote: > Anyway I'm deviating from QNodePtr but I just don't understand the hype > about JIT when it doesn't seem it has been compared to a Javascript compiler > because none exists up to now. That's precisely the biggest

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On 07/13/2017 04:09 AM, Konstantin Tokarev wrote: 13.07.2017, 02:39, "Phil Bouchard" : On 07/12/2017 07:25 PM, Phil Bouchard wrote: On 07/12/2017 04:56 PM, Konstantin Tokarev wrote: Now add time of compilation to the sum So I just did benchmark the following C++

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

13.07.2017, 02:39, "Phil Bouchard" : > On 07/12/2017 07:25 PM, Phil Bouchard wrote: >>  On 07/12/2017 04:56 PM, Konstantin Tokarev wrote: >>>  Now add time of compilation to the sum >> >>  So I just did benchmark the following C++ file featuring a loop within >>  the code

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On 07/13/2017 12:13 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote: Third, only 1.8 times faster? That's actually a very impressive JIT. I'd have expected a much worse number. Yes but the longer the loop lasts in the example, the greater the difference is between the executable and Node.JS. The "speed slope" is

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On quarta-feira, 12 de julho de 2017 20:54:54 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: > On 07/12/2017 10:28 PM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > > On quarta-feira, 12 de julho de 2017 12:34:35 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: > >> I don't know about you but a minimalist version of g++ embedded inside > >> the > >> browser could

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On 07/12/2017 07:25 PM, Phil Bouchard wrote: On 07/12/2017 04:56 PM, Konstantin Tokarev wrote: Now add time of compilation to the sum So I just did benchmark the following C++ file featuring a loop within the code (the loop was at the bash shell level previously):

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On 07/12/2017 10:58 AM, Phil Bouchard wrote: Phil Bouchard wrote: On 07/11/2017 04:02 AM, Tim Blechmann wrote: On the other hand, I have good news as I think I have found a way to simulate functions that return a function. how to you cope with structures like:

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On 07/12/2017 04:56 PM, Konstantin Tokarev wrote: 12.07.2017, 22:35, "Phil Bouchard" : Phil Bouchard wrote: On 07/11/2017 06:36 AM, Konstantin Tokarev wrote: 10.07.2017, 21:56, "Phil Bouchard" : Phil Bouchard

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

12.07.2017, 22:35, "Phil Bouchard" : > Phil Bouchard wrote: >>  On 07/11/2017 06:36 AM, Konstantin Tokarev wrote: >>>  10.07.2017, 21:56, "Phil Bouchard" :  Phil Bouchard wrote: >  BTW converting

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

Phil Bouchard wrote: > On 07/11/2017 06:36 AM, Konstantin Tokarev wrote: >> >> >> 10.07.2017, 21:56, "Phil Bouchard" : >>> Phil Bouchard wrote: BTW converting Javascript into C++ seems very easy to do >>> >>> In fact, is

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

Phil Bouchard wrote: > On 07/11/2017 04:02 AM, Tim Blechmann wrote: >>> On the other hand, I have good news as I think I have found a way to >>> simulate functions that return a function. >> >> how to you cope with structures like: >> >> function foo( outObject ) >> { >>

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

Le 11/07/2017 à 13:49, Phil Bouchard a écrit : On 07/11/2017 04:02 AM, Tim Blechmann wrote: On the other hand, I have good news as I think I have found a way to simulate functions that return a function. how to you cope with structures like: function foo( outObject ) { var object = {}

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On 07/11/2017 06:36 AM, Konstantin Tokarev wrote: 10.07.2017, 21:56, "Phil Bouchard" : Phil Bouchard wrote: BTW converting Javascript into C++ seems very easy to do In fact, is it me or it would seem that: - converting the Javascript code into

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On 07/11/2017 04:02 AM, Tim Blechmann wrote: On the other hand, I have good news as I think I have found a way to simulate functions that return a function. how to you cope with structures like: function foo( outObject ) { var object = {} outObject.object = object outObject.result

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

...@qt-project.org> on behalf of Phil > Bouchard > <philipp...@gmail.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 1:49:05 PM > To: development@qt-project.org > Subject: Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + > root_ptr > > On 07/11/2017 04:02

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

e attempt of calling it. Simon From: Development <development-bounces+simon.hausmann=qt...@qt-project.org> on behalf of Phil Bouchard <philipp...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 1:49:05 PM To: development@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Development

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On 07/11/2017 04:02 AM, Tim Blechmann wrote: On the other hand, I have good news as I think I have found a way to simulate functions that return a function. how to you cope with structures like: function foo( outObject ) { var object = {} outObject.object = object outObject.result

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

10.07.2017, 21:56, "Phil Bouchard" : > Phil Bouchard wrote: >>  BTW converting Javascript into C++ seems very easy to do > > In fact, is it me or it would seem that: > - converting the Javascript code into C++ on-the-fly > - compiling the resulting

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

11.07.2017, 07:52, "Phil Bouchard" : > On 07/10/2017 05:08 PM, Thiago Macieira wrote: >>  On segunda-feira, 10 de julho de 2017 11:56:07 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: >>>  Phil Bouchard wrote:  BTW converting Javascript into C++ seems very easy to do

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

> On the other hand, I have good news as I think I have found a way to > simulate functions that return a function. how to you cope with structures like: function foo( outObject ) { var object = {} outObject.object = object outObject.result = function() { return object } return

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On 07/10/2017 05:08 PM, Thiago Macieira wrote: On segunda-feira, 10 de julho de 2017 11:56:07 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: Phil Bouchard wrote: BTW converting Javascript into C++ seems very easy to do In fact, is it me or it would seem that: - converting the Javascript

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On segunda-feira, 10 de julho de 2017 11:56:07 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: > Phil Bouchard wrote: > > BTW converting Javascript into C++ seems very easy to do > > In fact, is it me or it would seem that: > - converting the Javascript code into C++ on-the-fly > - compiling the

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 5:03 AM, Phil Bouchard wrote: > Hi, > > I read Qt 5.9 is using a new garbage collector that is more predictable. > First good job and second I was wondering if there is any documentation on > that garbage collector in question. The documentation is

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

Phil Bouchard wrote: > > BTW converting Javascript into C++ seems very easy to do In fact, is it me or it would seem that: - converting the Javascript code into C++ on-the-fly - compiling the resulting C++ code Would be a more efficient alternative than all these JIT

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

Thiago Macieira wrote: > On domingo, 9 de julho de 2017 21:13:33 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: >> On 07/09/2017 10:22 PM, Phil Bouchard wrote: >>> On 07/09/2017 06:35 PM, Phil Bouchard wrote: I'm sure there is an equivalent in Qt but I'll need some pointers to

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On domingo, 9 de julho de 2017 15:35:43 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: > > You'll also need to disentangle it from Boost before it can be used in Qt. > > Move it to independent headers depending only on the C++98 standard > > library ( C++11 core language features are ok). > > The licenses are

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On sábado, 8 de julho de 2017 15:57:50 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: > https://github.com/philippeb8/root_ptr/blob/develop/example/javascript_examp > le1.cpp > > The application outputs: > Scope 0: BEGIN > Scope 1: BEGIN > A::A(const boost::node_proxy&) > A::A(const boost::node_proxy&) > A::~A() >

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On 07/08/2017 12:42 AM, Phil Bouchard wrote: On 07/07/2017 10:14 PM, Phil Bouchard wrote: But if I can do a deep copy then I can certainly "re-set" the variable (change the set the variable is owned by). If I can do that then we won't need any deep copy. I just need to think a little bit...

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

> - the parameters of the function will remain unaffected if they are used as > r-values > - the parameters of the function will require a deep copy of the expression > if they are used as l-values https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evaluation_strategy#Call_by_sharing function foo( arg ) { var

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On sexta-feira, 7 de julho de 2017 06:30:22 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: > > how do you solve the situation that an object might be referenced by > > multiple roots? > > Please elaborate because as far as I know variables in Javascript have a > function scope and functions can be nested (waterfall

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

Tim Blechmann wrote: >> If there is one root_ptr per >> Javascript function then all local variables are guaranteed to be >> destroyed. And closures aren't too big of a deal either because child >> objects can easily refer to their parent. >> >> But returning local variables

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

Phil Bouchard wrote: > On 07/07/2017 04:39 AM, Edward Welbourne wrote: >> Phil Bouchard (7 July 2017 04:15) >>> >>> Anything that goes in that HTML page or QML window we don't care. The >>> reference counted property of root_ptr (node_ptr) will handle it and >>> the

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

> If there is one root_ptr per > Javascript function then all local variables are guaranteed to be > destroyed. And closures aren't too big of a deal either because child > objects can easily refer to their parent. > > But returning local variables might need some work on root_ptr such as >

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On 07/07/2017 04:39 AM, Edward Welbourne wrote: Phil Bouchard (7 July 2017 04:15) Anything that goes in that HTML page or QML window we don't care. The reference counted property of root_ptr (node_ptr) will handle it and the associated root_ptr will clean up the mess when it is destroyed.

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On Thu, 6 Jul 2017, Thiago Macieira wrote: By the way, how does it break the cycle? Like I was saying before, node_ptr enlists each pointee object to the associated root_ptr and when the root_ptr is destroyed then everything gets wiped out. See above. Your answer is "it doesn't break the

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On quinta-feira, 6 de julho de 2017 04:53:16 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: >>> It's all memory usage and bad programming habits vs execution speed. >>> Why would you want to add objects that are never used? A minimum >>> programming skills set is required here. You're saying the actual >>> garbage

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On quinta-feira, 6 de julho de 2017 20:48:27 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: > > How well does root_ptr operate when there are cyclic references? > > JavaScript > > objects can refer to each other, so how do you propose the engine handle > > that case? > > It's very easy. Every time a node_ptr is

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On 07/06/2017 10:57 PM, Thiago Macieira wrote: On quinta-feira, 6 de julho de 2017 19:15:02 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: As you know in Javascript temporary unnamed variables from a primitive type are no different than local variables and even if global variables are not encouraged then they will

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On quinta-feira, 6 de julho de 2017 19:15:02 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: > > The point is that the *language* requires us to have a garbage collector > > to > > operate like that. So explain to me how root_ptr will work in that > > context. > > As you know in Javascript temporary unnamed variables

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On 07/06/2017 11:10 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote: On quinta-feira, 6 de julho de 2017 04:53:16 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: It's all memory usage and bad programming habits vs execution speed. Why would you want to add objects that are never used? A minimum programming skills set is required here.

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On quinta-feira, 6 de julho de 2017 04:53:16 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: > On 07/06/2017 01:01 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > > On quarta-feira, 5 de julho de 2017 19:32:35 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: > >> - Well with root_ptr the behavior is 100% predictable thus you won't > >> have these rendering lags

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On 07/06/2017 01:01 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote: On quarta-feira, 5 de julho de 2017 19:32:35 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: - Well with root_ptr the behavior is 100% predictable thus you won't have these rendering lags at random times. So explain to me how the QML engine should collect JS items that

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On quarta-feira, 5 de julho de 2017 19:32:35 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: > - Well with root_ptr the behavior is 100% predictable thus you won't > have these rendering lags at random times. So explain to me how the QML engine should collect JS items that have gone unused and unreferenced during the

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On quarta-feira, 5 de julho de 2017 15:31:28 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: > For example in HTML we could have 1 root_ptr for each HTML page and when > this page is destroyed then the root_ptr guarantees all associated nodes > will be destructed as well. When I refer to a node I mean the >

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On 07/05/2017 06:31 PM, Phil Bouchard wrote: On 07/05/2017 02:29 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote: On Tuesday, 4 July 2017 21:03:14 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: Hi, I read Qt 5.9 is using a new garbage collector that is more predictable. First good job and second I was wondering if there is any

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On 07/05/2017 02:29 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote: On Tuesday, 4 July 2017 21:03:14 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: Hi, I read Qt 5.9 is using a new garbage collector that is more predictable. First good job and second I was wondering if there is any documentation on that garbage collector in question.

Re: [Development] Qt 5.9's new garbage collector documentation? + root_ptr

On Tuesday, 4 July 2017 21:03:14 PDT Phil Bouchard wrote: > Hi, > > I read Qt 5.9 is using a new garbage collector that is more predictable. > First good job and second I was wondering if there is any > documentation on that garbage collector in question. That might be in the QML engine VM.