RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0

2002-07-18 Thread Mike Kelly
On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Craig Foster wrote: > Have you guys played with Vmware Workstation? It'll free up many > machines and you can copy the final install (including settings) over > another botched session in about 2 minutes tops :) I still keep a couple > of machines around for things like SCSI

[e-smith-devinfo] e-smith-service-control [was Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0]

2002-07-18 Thread Darrell May
Charlie Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > /sbin/e-smith/db configuration setprop $i status disabled Don't forget Jay's e-smith-service-control-1.1.0-04.noarch.rpm: Description : e-smith module to create a panel for enabling/disabling services available here: ftp://ftp.e-smith.com/pub/e-smith

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0

2002-07-18 Thread Damien Curtain
On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 11:34:20PM +0800, Craig Foster wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > From: Damien Curtain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:32 PM > > To: Gordon Rowell; Charlie Brady; Devinfo > > Subject: Re: [e-smith-

[e-smith-devinfo] Development/test tools (was Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0)

2002-07-18 Thread Gordon Rowell
On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 11:34:20PM +0800, Craig Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [..] > Have you guys played with Vmware Workstation? It'll free up many > machines and you can copy the final install (including settings) over > another botched session in about 2 minutes tops :) I still keep a co

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0

2002-07-18 Thread Craig Foster
> -Original Message- > From: Damien Curtain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:32 PM > To: Gordon Rowell; Charlie Brady; Devinfo > Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0 > > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0

2002-07-18 Thread Damien Curtain
On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 10:12:08AM -0400, Gordon Rowell wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 12:03:57AM +1000, Damien Curtain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > > [...] > > On a 4.1.x I see ~65 actions, ~35 events, over 150 actions on 5.5, > > ~50 events on 5.5. Give or take a few for contribs/my own p

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0

2002-07-18 Thread Gordon Rowell
On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 12:03:57AM +1000, Damien Curtain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] > On a 4.1.x I see ~65 actions, ~35 events, over 150 actions on 5.5, > ~50 events on 5.5. Give or take a few for contribs/my own patches. And we are looking at methods to streamline that in the future. One

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0

2002-07-18 Thread Damien Curtain
On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 09:30:27AM -0400, Charlie Brady wrote: > > On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Damien Curtain wrote: > > > > But I'm curious here -- what bits do you consider resource hogs? > > > > imp, mysql, pptp > > All optional. > > for i in imp php mysql pptp > do > /sbin/e-smith/db configurati

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0

2002-07-18 Thread Rich Lafferty
On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 05:24:44PM +1000, Damien Curtain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 09:36:01PM -0400, Rich Lafferty wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 10:56:13AM +1000, Damien Curtain wrote: > > > It's getting harder to run SME on these machines, as its become overly > >

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0

2002-07-18 Thread Charlie Brady
On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Damien Curtain wrote: > > But I'm curious here -- what bits do you consider resource hogs? > > imp, mysql, pptp All optional. for i in imp php mysql pptp do /sbin/e-smith/db configuration setprop $i status disabled done /sbin/e-smith/signal-event post-upgrade /sbin/e-smi

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0

2002-07-18 Thread Damien Curtain
On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 09:36:01PM -0400, Rich Lafferty wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 10:56:13AM +1000, Damien Curtain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > > > > Not an old piece of junk but definatley I know of many places that > > recycle older hardware for linux gateways/firewalls etc, these a

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0

2002-07-11 Thread Ed Sharpe
rtman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ed sharpe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Greg Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 7:26 AM Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0

2002-07-11 Thread Mike Kelly
On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Greg J. Zartman wrote: > I highly doubt this is the norm. Unless a person is just playing around > with SME at home, I have a hard time believing that the average > "customer" would setup a server on just any ole piece of junk computer > that is lying around. It might not

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0

2002-07-11 Thread Greg J. Zartman
Ed, > Today's high tech scrounging was interesting. > have an HP server case with a GA-586dx dual cpu( but only have one cpu for > it< any extra 233 intel mmx chips surplus out there?>) motherboard in it and With that vintage of pentium chip, you can't just throw any old P233mmx in your dual c

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0

2002-07-10 Thread ed sharpe
. - Original Message - From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "ed sharpe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Greg Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 6:17 AM Subject: Re: [e-

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0

2002-07-10 Thread Ed Sharpe
d sharpe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Greg Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 6:17 AM Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0 > >From: "Greg Zartman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > &g

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0

2002-07-10 Thread Les Mikesell
>From: "Greg Zartman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > What would your explaination be to your boss?... Well, you see, I was > playing around, experimenting really, with this old machine that we had. > I figured if I could make it through the install routine, we'd be good to > go. Everything seemed t

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0

2002-07-10 Thread Les Mikesell
>From: "Greg Zartman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > What would your explaination be to your boss?... Well, you see, I was > playing around, experimenting really, with this old machine that we had. > I figured if I could make it through the install routine, we'd be good to > go. Everything seemed t

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0

2002-07-10 Thread Richard Ford
d. +61 (0)2 62624080 (ph) +86 1368 3268117 (mobile) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Kevin Flanagan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Greg Baker'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 9:57 AM S

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0

2002-07-10 Thread ed sharpe
in" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "e-smith developers list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:50 PM Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0 > > > > Good point about the P90;) A small investment in moderately decent > > h

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0

2002-07-10 Thread ed sharpe
"ed sharpe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Greg Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 11:09 PM Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0 > > > tonight's experi

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0

2002-07-09 Thread Greg Baker
On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 16:09, Greg Zartman wrote: > > > tonight's experiment was an emachine 333k unit. uses amd k6 has 8 gig > > Yes, but this isn't the BUSINESS norm (at least when one talks to folks Well, two schools that I have set up SME machines for just did not have the budget for anyth

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0

2002-07-09 Thread Greg Zartman
> tonight's experiment was an emachine 333k unit. uses amd k6 has 8 gig Yes, but this isn't the BUSINESS norm (at least when one talks to folks in this forum and the other e-smith forms). I agree, it's fun to experiment and see what works and what doesn't at home with your spare parts. Sure

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0

2002-07-09 Thread Greg Zartman
> Good point about the P90;) A small investment in moderately decent > hardware upfront may remove alot of problems, unfortunately I can't > stick to this and still stuff around with isa scsi adapters too often... Agreed. I was mostly joking with my previous comment... I don't think an small

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0

2002-07-09 Thread Rasjid Wilcox
> -Original Message- > From: ed sharpe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > note though on any of these MFH 2002 systems we do not have mail > enabled > yet! For around a month I had my home SME mail server running on a 486DX4 133MHz machine. If it wasn't for the fact that I wanted to enalbl

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0

2002-07-09 Thread ed sharpe
PM Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0 > > Sorta. Most of the customers I've seen so far don't go and shell out > > on any new hardware. They just use whatever junk is lying around which > > > I highly doubt this is the norm. Unless a

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0

2002-07-09 Thread ed sharpe
sday, July 09, 2002 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0 > > Sorta. Most of the customers I've seen so far don't go and shell out > > on any new hardware. They just use whatever junk is lying around which > > > I highly doubt this i

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0

2002-07-09 Thread Tim Litwiller
I think it is more common than you might think. Almost all of the e-smith servers that I service, the customer downloaded and burned the disk. I helped them set it up on an old computer - something that is not fast enough for a work station anymore. Greg J. Zartman wrote: >> Sorta. Most

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0

2002-07-09 Thread Kevin Flanagan
evin > -Original Message- > From: Greg Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 8:14 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0 > > > On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 00:15, Richard Ford wrote: >

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0

2002-07-09 Thread Rich Lafferty
On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 10:56:13AM +1000, Damien Curtain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not an old piece of junk but definatley I know of many places that > recycle older hardware for linux gateways/firewalls etc, these are not > for profit groups though. No argument from me there. :-) > It's

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0

2002-07-09 Thread Damien Curtain
On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 05:26:46PM -0700, Greg J. Zartman wrote: > > > Sorta. Most of the customers I've seen so far don't go and shell out > > on any new hardware. They just use whatever junk is lying around which > > > I highly doubt this is the norm. Unless a person is just playing arou

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0

2002-07-09 Thread Greg J. Zartman
> Sorta. Most of the customers I've seen so far don't go and shell out > on any new hardware. They just use whatever junk is lying around which I highly doubt this is the norm. Unless a person is just playing around with SME at home, I have a hard time believing that the average "customer

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0

2002-07-09 Thread Greg Baker
On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 00:15, Richard Ford wrote: > High availability for SME's? Is this not seriously missing the mark on the > intended market segment? This is a 2x increase in costs where most SME's to > start with are hard pressed to pay for SCSI hardware raid and SCSI DAT/ETC > backup, ECC ra

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0

2002-07-09 Thread Richard Ford
--- From: "Greg Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 8:38 PM Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0 > I could post this on the wish-list forum, but I thought it was more > developer orientated. Now that I

[e-smith-devinfo] Some wish-list ideas for version 6.0

2002-07-05 Thread Greg Baker
I could post this on the wish-list forum, but I thought it was more developer orientated. Now that I've got a 5.5 system up and running, I thought I'd throw in a few things that could easily go into 6.0 that would make it a bit easier for me (and hopefully others) to make some contribs: 1) Expec