Re: [freenet-dev] Website Redesign Pre-pre-alpha

2017-02-25 Thread Dan Roberts
Hey Everyone, I'll be posting the website for feedback tomorrow. I seem to constantly find new things to fix, but I could probably nit-pick forever, I need everyone's help catching the big things I haven't noticed. There are two things that are near-show-stoppers I intend to fix tomorrow

Re: [freenet-dev] preserving the links to the wiki

2017-02-25 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Florent Daigniere writes: > @devl is the smallest list we still operate. > > freenetproject:/var/backups/mailman# wc -l *members|sort -rg > 4441 total > 2581 announce.members > 452 support.members > 354 devl.members > 309 tech.members > 293 chat.members > 248

[freenet-dev] DDG Donation Roadblocks

2017-02-25 Thread Freenet
What is stopping the funding from DuckDuckGo (received over a year ago) from being disbursed? Can we put a deadline on any further request for comments or debate, because this is getting rather unprofessional, and no further organizations or individuals will be planning to donate to us. When can

Re: [freenet-dev] preserving the links to the wiki

2017-02-25 Thread Ian Clarke
On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 4:19 AM, Florent Daigniere nextg...@freenetproject.org wrote: Or we could just migrate to slack (like Ian suggested ages ago). It's not like there has been any meaningful, productive, development-related discussion on this mailing list in the last few years. While I'm

Re: [freenet-dev] preserving the links to the wiki

2017-02-25 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Florent Daigniere writes: > On Sat, 2017-02-25 at 13:18 +0100, Florent Daigniere wrote: >> Are you seriously suggesting that "having a working fred, working FMS" >> is an acceptable requirement for accessing what will be our future >> support mailing list? > > Oh,

Re: [freenet-dev] preserving the links to the wiki

2017-02-25 Thread Florent Daigniere
On Sat, 2017-02-25 at 17:44 +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Florent Daigniere writes: > > > On Sat, 2017-02-25 at 13:02 +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > > You are in lalaland if you think that we can do what currently do > > with > > our mailing lists over

Re: [freenet-dev] preserving the links to the wiki

2017-02-25 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Florent Daigniere writes: > On Sat, 2017-02-25 at 13:02 +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > You are in lalaland if you think that we can do what currently do with > our mailing lists over Freenet. Almost two decades in the making, we've > failed at building an

Re: [freenet-dev] preserving the links to the wiki

2017-02-25 Thread Freenet
+1 to move the support mailing list to mattersmost, with instructions on our website how to connect via IRC, Email, XMPP, and anonymously (Tor or Freenet) +1 to move devl mailing list to FMS. Florent Daigniere: > On Sat, 2017-02-25 at 13:18 +0100, Florent Daigniere wrote: >> On Sat, 2017-02-25

Re: [freenet-dev] preserving the links to the wiki

2017-02-25 Thread Florent Daigniere
On Sat, 2017-02-25 at 13:18 +0100, Florent Daigniere wrote: > On Sat, 2017-02-25 at 13:02 +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > > Florent Daigniere writes: > > > > > > We could also move more of our discussions to FMS. It’s code has > > > > nowadays been checked by

Re: [freenet-dev] preserving the links to the wiki

2017-02-25 Thread Florent Daigniere
On Sat, 2017-02-25 at 13:02 +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Florent Daigniere writes: > > > > We could also move more of our discussions to FMS. It’s code has > > > nowadays been checked by at least two established users, and most > > > interactive development

Re: [freenet-dev] preserving the links to the wiki

2017-02-25 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Florent Daigniere writes: >> We could also move more of our discussions to FMS. It’s code has >> nowadays been checked by at least two established users, and most >> interactive development already happens over IRC. > Or we could just migrate to slack (like Ian

Re: [freenet-dev] preserving the links to the wiki

2017-02-25 Thread Florent Daigniere
On Sat, 2017-02-25 at 10:27 +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > x...@freenetproject.org writes: > > That is unfortunately something our privacy-focused users will > > certainly not  > > accept :| > > We could also move more of our discussions to FMS. It’s code has > nowadays been checked by at

Re: [freenet-dev] preserving the links to the wiki

2017-02-25 Thread Florent Daigniere
[snip.] > > I'd really like us to use AWS for as much as possible re: > > hosting.  It has a I'd really like us to use AWS for as much as possible re: hosting.  It has a > > lot of benefits, one of which is powerful multi-user support. > > Well I really don't care where we host as long as it

Re: [freenet-dev] 5 weeks till our SSL certificate expires

2017-02-25 Thread Florent Daigniere
On Fri, 2017-02-24 at 18:40 +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Dan Roberts writes: > > The website is fully static and should be fine with s3 + cloudflare. > > Do we actually need cloudflare for the hosting? Cloudflare doesn't provide hosting. > Would it be simpler

Re: [freenet-dev] MessageAuthCodeTest fails with the latest version of bcprov-jdk15on

2017-02-25 Thread Florent Daigniere
On Fri, 2017-02-24 at 15:56 +0200, Rostislav Krasny wrote: > Hi, > > I made a local Maven fork of the Freenet Fred project. Good luck with that. The plan is to use gradle going forward (have a look to what's on the branch called "next"). > One of my maven > dependencies is: > > >   

Re: [freenet-dev] preserving the links to the wiki

2017-02-25 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
x...@freenetproject.org writes: > That is unfortunately something our privacy-focused users will certainly not > accept :| We could also move more of our discussions to FMS. It’s code has nowadays been checked by at least two established users, and most interactive development already happens