[freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-12-17 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Friday 16 Dec 2011 06:26:11 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 15. Dezember 2011, 16:26:59 schrieb Matthew Toseland: > > On Wednesday 14 Dec 2011 18:15:42 David ?Bombe? Roden wrote: > > > I?m not quite sure how to respond to this as I have received NO > > > INFORMATION WHATSOEVER

[freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-12-17 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Friday 16 Dec 2011 23:40:58 David ?Bombe? Roden wrote: > Hi Arne, > > > 5. After you did multiple test-jars that way, ask Toad to integrate it > > The whole point is to create a process in which toad is NOT involved as the > primary force because he is kind of the bottleneck here. The

[freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-12-17 Thread Roland Häder
Hi all, On Sat, 2011-12-17 at 00:40 +0100, David ?Bombe? Roden wrote: > Hi Arne, > > > 5. After you did multiple test-jars that way, ask Toad to integrate it > > The whole point is to create a process in which toad is NOT involved as the > primary force because he is kind of the bottleneck

[freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-12-17 Thread David ‘Bombe’ Roden
Hi Arne, > 5. After you did multiple test-jars that way, ask Toad to integrate it The whole point is to create a process in which toad is NOT involved as the primary force because he is kind of the bottleneck here. Greetings, David -- David ?Bombe? Roden -- next part

Re: [freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-12-17 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Friday 16 Dec 2011 23:40:58 David ‘Bombe’ Roden wrote: Hi Arne, 5. After you did multiple test-jars that way, ask Toad to integrate it The whole point is to create a process in which toad is NOT involved as the primary force because he is kind of the bottleneck here. The immediate

Re: [freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-12-17 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Friday 16 Dec 2011 06:26:11 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: Am Donnerstag, 15. Dezember 2011, 16:26:59 schrieb Matthew Toseland: On Wednesday 14 Dec 2011 18:15:42 David ‘Bombe’ Roden wrote: I’m not quite sure how to respond to this as I have received NO INFORMATION WHATSOEVER about what

[freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-12-16 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Donnerstag, 15. Dezember 2011, 16:26:59 schrieb Matthew Toseland: > On Wednesday 14 Dec 2011 18:15:42 David ?Bombe? Roden wrote: > > I?m not quite sure how to respond to this as I have received NO > > INFORMATION WHATSOEVER about what ?make a test build? actually entails. > > Do we have a build

Re: [freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-12-16 Thread David ‘Bombe’ Roden
Hi Arne, 5. After you did multiple test-jars that way, ask Toad to integrate it The whole point is to create a process in which toad is NOT involved as the primary force because he is kind of the bottleneck here. Greetings, David -- David ‘Bombe’ Roden bo...@pterodactylus.net

Re: [freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-12-16 Thread Roland Häder
Hi all, On Sat, 2011-12-17 at 00:40 +0100, David ‘Bombe’ Roden wrote: Hi Arne, 5. After you did multiple test-jars that way, ask Toad to integrate it The whole point is to create a process in which toad is NOT involved as the primary force because he is kind of the bottleneck here. I

[freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-12-15 Thread Ximin Luo
On 14/12/11 18:15, David ?Bombe? Roden wrote: > Hi Matthew, > >> Ummm, I was expecting you to create a tree and make a test build? > > I?m not quite sure how to respond to this as I have received NO INFORMATION > WHATSOEVER about what ?make a test build? actually entails. Do we have a build >

[freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-12-15 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Wednesday 14 Dec 2011 18:15:42 David ?Bombe? Roden wrote: > Hi Matthew, > > > Ummm, I was expecting you to create a tree and make a test build? > > I?m not quite sure how to respond to this as I have received NO INFORMATION > WHATSOEVER about what ?make a test build? actually entails. Do we

Re: [freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-12-15 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Wednesday 14 Dec 2011 18:15:42 David ‘Bombe’ Roden wrote: Hi Matthew, Ummm, I was expecting you to create a tree and make a test build? I’m not quite sure how to respond to this as I have received NO INFORMATION WHATSOEVER about what “make a test build” actually entails. Do we have a

Re: [freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-12-15 Thread Ximin Luo
On 14/12/11 18:15, David ‘Bombe’ Roden wrote: Hi Matthew, Ummm, I was expecting you to create a tree and make a test build? I’m not quite sure how to respond to this as I have received NO INFORMATION WHATSOEVER about what “make a test build” actually entails. Do we have a build

Re: [freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-12-15 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Donnerstag, 15. Dezember 2011, 16:26:59 schrieb Matthew Toseland: On Wednesday 14 Dec 2011 18:15:42 David ‘Bombe’ Roden wrote: I’m not quite sure how to respond to this as I have received NO INFORMATION WHATSOEVER about what “make a test build” actually entails. Do we have a build

[freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-12-14 Thread David ‘Bombe’ Roden
Hi Matthew, > Ummm, I was expecting you to create a tree and make a test build? I?m not quite sure how to respond to this as I have received NO INFORMATION WHATSOEVER about what ?make a test build? actually entails. Do we have a build environment on remote hardware or do we simply build on

[freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-12-14 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Tuesday 13 Dec 2011 20:10:32 David ?Bombe? Roden wrote: > Hi Steve, > > > Has there been any progress towards implementing this? A status report - > > even if "too busy, sorry" - would be appreciated. > > I would love to hear some details about what is planned to happen when, too, > because

Re: [freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-12-14 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Tuesday 13 Dec 2011 20:10:32 David ‘Bombe’ Roden wrote: Hi Steve, Has there been any progress towards implementing this? A status report - even if too busy, sorry - would be appreciated. I would love to hear some details about what is planned to happen when, too, because so far

Re: [freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-12-14 Thread David ‘Bombe’ Roden
Hi Matthew, Ummm, I was expecting you to create a tree and make a test build? I’m not quite sure how to respond to this as I have received NO INFORMATION WHATSOEVER about what “make a test build” actually entails. Do we have a build environment on remote hardware or do we simply build on

[freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-12-13 Thread David ‘Bombe’ Roden
Hi Steve, > Has there been any progress towards implementing this? A status report - > even if "too busy, sorry" - would be appreciated. I would love to hear some details about what is planned to happen when, too, because so far nothing seems to have happened, at least nothing that I have been

Re: [freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-12-13 Thread David ‘Bombe’ Roden
Hi Steve, Has there been any progress towards implementing this? A status report - even if too busy, sorry - would be appreciated. I would love to hear some details about what is planned to happen when, too, because so far nothing seems to have happened, at least nothing that I have been

[freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-12-04 Thread Steve Dougherty
Has there been any progress towards implementing this? A status report - even if "too busy, sorry" - would be appreciated. On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Juiceman wrote: > > > On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 3:11 PM, David ?Bombe? Roden < > bombe at pterodactylus.net> wrote: > >> ** >> >> Hi Matthew,

Re: [freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-12-04 Thread Steve Dougherty
Has there been any progress towards implementing this? A status report - even if too busy, sorry - would be appreciated. On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Juiceman juicema...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 3:11 PM, David ‘Bombe’ Roden bo...@pterodactylus.net wrote: ** Hi

[freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-11-06 Thread Juiceman
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 3:11 PM, David ?Bombe? Roden wrote: > ** > > Hi Matthew, > > > Also we could have many "streams" of test builds, by different > developers, > > > and thus let them release whatever they want to without it being > > > officially endorsed, but the users still be able to use

[freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-11-06 Thread David ‘Bombe’ Roden
Hi Matthew, > Also we could have many "streams" of test builds, by different developers, > and thus let them release whatever they want to without it being > officially endorsed, but the users still be able to use the update.sh > / update.cmd conveniently. That would require quite some

[freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-11-06 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Saturday 05 Nov 2011 20:35:00 David ?Bombe? Roden wrote: > Hi Matthew, > > > 1. The most valuable thing is probably not actually releasing builds. It's > > collecting patches and initial code review, integration into a tree (maybe > > master, maybe not), and *POSTING A TEST BUILD AND GETTING

Re: [freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-11-06 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Saturday 05 Nov 2011 20:35:00 David ‘Bombe’ Roden wrote: Hi Matthew, 1. The most valuable thing is probably not actually releasing builds. It's collecting patches and initial code review, integration into a tree (maybe master, maybe not), and *POSTING A TEST BUILD AND GETTING PEOPLE TO

Re: [freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-11-06 Thread David ‘Bombe’ Roden
Hi Matthew, Also we could have many streams of test builds, by different developers, and thus let them release whatever they want to without it being officially endorsed, but the users still be able to use the update.sh name / update.cmd name conveniently. That would require quite some

Re: [freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-11-06 Thread Juiceman
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 3:11 PM, David ‘Bombe’ Roden bo...@pterodactylus.net wrote: ** Hi Matthew, Also we could have many streams of test builds, by different developers, and thus let them release whatever they want to without it being officially endorsed, but the users still be

[freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-11-05 Thread David ‘Bombe’ Roden
Hi Matthew, > 1. The most valuable thing is probably not actually releasing builds. It's > collecting patches and initial code review, integration into a tree (maybe > master, maybe not), and *POSTING A TEST BUILD AND GETTING PEOPLE TO TEST > IT*. Right. The only difference between release

Re: [freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-11-05 Thread Matthew Toseland
Okay, my additional thoughts since last time first: 1. The most valuable thing is probably not actually releasing builds. It's collecting patches and initial code review, integration into a tree (maybe master, maybe not), and *POSTING A TEST BUILD AND GETTING PEOPLE TO TEST IT*. This can be

Re: [freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-11-05 Thread David ‘Bombe’ Roden
Hi Matthew, 1. The most valuable thing is probably not actually releasing builds. It's collecting patches and initial code review, integration into a tree (maybe master, maybe not), and *POSTING A TEST BUILD AND GETTING PEOPLE TO TEST IT*. Right. The only difference between release builds

[freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-11-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Thursday 03 Nov 2011 18:35:19 David ?Bombe? Roden wrote: > Hey, everybody. > > You all know that toad is currently very busy with his university study and > that he has very little time to take care of Freenet. Meanwhile, people are > still submitting pull requests on GitHub and patches on

[freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-11-04 Thread Ian Clarke
I think that makes sense David, Matthew? Ian. On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:35 PM, David ?Bombe? Roden wrote: > ** > > Hey, everybody. > > You all know that toad is currently very busy with his university study > and that he has very little time to take care of Freenet. Meanwhile, people > are

Re: [freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-11-04 Thread Ian Clarke
I think that makes sense David, Matthew? Ian. On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:35 PM, David ‘Bombe’ Roden bo...@pterodactylus.net wrote: ** Hey, everybody. You all know that toad is currently very busy with his university study and that he has very little time to take care of Freenet. Meanwhile,

Re: [freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-11-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Thursday 03 Nov 2011 18:35:19 David ‘Bombe’ Roden wrote: Hey, everybody. You all know that toad is currently very busy with his university study and that he has very little time to take care of Freenet. Meanwhile, people are still submitting pull requests on GitHub and patches on FMS

Re: [freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-11-04 Thread David ‘Bombe’ Roden
Hi Matthew, The other side of this is not having lots of builds close together improves stability and therefore performance. The only thing causing disruptions are changes in routing and inter-node communication but those builds will generally not talk to older nodes anyway, right? Your

[freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-11-03 Thread David ‘Bombe’ Roden
Hey, everybody. You all know that toad is currently very busy with his university study and that he has very little time to take care of Freenet. Meanwhile, people are still submitting pull requests on GitHub and patches on FMS (and probably Freetalk, too). The combination of these two facts

[freenet-dev] [RFC] Allow more people to release a Freenet build

2011-11-03 Thread David ‘Bombe’ Roden
Hey, everybody. You all know that toad is currently very busy with his university study and that he has very little time to take care of Freenet. Meanwhile, people are still submitting pull requests on GitHub and patches on FMS (and probably Freetalk, too). The combination of these two facts