Re: [freenet-dev] What should be in 0.8, and when should it be released?

2009-05-16 Thread Luke771
Matthew Toseland wrote: Ian has found some more funding, so we are okay for another 6-8 months. This will be announced properly shortly. This relieves the pressure to get something out regardless of what it is. So we can have a sensible discussion on: 1. What should be in 0.8? 2. When to

Re: [freenet-dev] Usability test results

2009-05-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Friday 15 May 2009 16:35:40 Thomas Sachau wrote: Matthew Toseland schrieb: On Thursday 14 May 2009 18:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote: Matthew Toseland schrieb: My observation: Can we get rid of the I will configure it manually choice? And maybe the welcome page? (#3094) You want to

Re: [freenet-dev] What should be in 0.8, and when should it be released?

2009-05-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Saturday 16 May 2009 10:12:06 Luke771 wrote: Matthew Toseland wrote: Ian has found some more funding, so we are okay for another 6-8 months. This will be announced properly shortly. This relieves the pressure to get something out regardless of what it is. So we can have a sensible

Re: [freenet-dev] Usability test results

2009-05-16 Thread Florent Daignière
* xor x...@gmx.li [2009-05-15 18:24:53]: On Thursday 14 May 2009 19:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote: Matthew Toseland schrieb: My observation: Can we get rid of the I will configure it manually choice? And maybe the welcome page? (#3094) You want to force everyone to use the Wizard?

Re: [freenet-dev] Usability test results

2009-05-16 Thread Florent Daignière
* Robert Hailey rob...@freenetproject.org [2009-05-15 13:04:58]: On May 15, 2009, at 11:57 AM, xor wrote: On Friday 15 May 2009 18:37:12 Thomas Sachau wrote: xor schrieb: On Thursday 14 May 2009 19:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote: Matthew Toseland schrieb: My observation: Can we get rid

Re: [freenet-dev] Usability test results

2009-05-16 Thread Florent Daignière
* xor x...@gmx.li [2009-05-15 22:07:34]: On Friday 15 May 2009 20:04:58 Robert Hailey wrote: On May 15, 2009, at 11:57 AM, xor wrote: On Friday 15 May 2009 18:37:12 Thomas Sachau wrote: xor schrieb: On Thursday 14 May 2009 19:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote: Matthew Toseland schrieb:

Re: [freenet-dev] Usability test results

2009-05-16 Thread Thomas Sachau
Matthew Toseland schrieb: On Friday 15 May 2009 16:35:40 Thomas Sachau wrote: Matthew Toseland schrieb: On Thursday 14 May 2009 18:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote: Matthew Toseland schrieb: My observation: Can we get rid of the I will configure it manually choice? And maybe the welcome page?

Re: [freenet-dev] Usability test results

2009-05-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Saturday 16 May 2009 15:02:19 Thomas Sachau wrote: Matthew Toseland schrieb: On Friday 15 May 2009 16:35:40 Thomas Sachau wrote: Matthew Toseland schrieb: On Thursday 14 May 2009 18:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote: Matthew Toseland schrieb: My observation: Can we get rid of the I will

Re: [freenet-dev] Infocalypse feedback (Mercurial over Freenet)

2009-05-16 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
On Monday, 11. May 2009 21:20:49 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: The only problem I still have is that keeping the uris in the central config file didn't work (all paths in the config file were lowercase while the real paths aren't - maybe that's connected to the issue). This problem seems fixed

Re: [freenet-dev] Usability test results

2009-05-16 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
On Friday, 15. May 2009 22:07:34 xor wrote: Wouldn't it take much load off the internet, i.e. small bandwidth connections, if any nodes which are connected via LAN used the LAN for routing requests if possible? I assume that it would also help privacy, because then timing analysis and similar

Re: [freenet-dev] Usability test results

2009-05-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Saturday 16 May 2009 23:20:08 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: On Friday, 15. May 2009 22:07:34 xor wrote: Wouldn't it take much load off the internet, i.e. small bandwidth connections, if any nodes which are connected via LAN used the LAN for routing requests if possible? I assume that

Re: [freenet-dev] Please help us test the new wininstaller (Vista users especially welcome)

2009-05-16 Thread ghoul
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Using the current wininstaller (FreenetInstaller-1210), I installed into Windows 7 x64 Build 7100. Installed java as prompted (x32). Install went very well. The uninstaller leaves user 'Freenet' and I updated my open ticket(bug) with these results.

Re: [freenet-dev] Wininstaller deployed

2009-05-16 Thread Juiceman
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Zero3 ze...@zerosplayground.dk wrote: Matthew Toseland skrev:   We now include wget.exe and sha1test.jar. Also, I have put the update.cmd in update-new.cmd on emu and updated it to fetch itself, and made it use icacls on win 5.2 (XP64, win2k3 server etc). And

[freenet-dev] What should be in 0.8, and when should it be released?

2009-05-16 Thread Luke771
Matthew Toseland wrote: > Ian has found some more funding, so we are okay for another 6-8 months. This > will be announced properly shortly. This relieves the pressure to get > something out regardless of what it is. So we can have a sensible discussion > on: > 1. What should be in 0.8? > 2.

[freenet-dev] Usability test results

2009-05-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
for windows (both in the > installer and in freenet, which would have to detect the OS and then decide to show the warning or > not)? Well, we could do something similar for *nix, no? Launch a suitable privacy enabled browser when the user runs the browse-freenet script? -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 835 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20090516/acfb23dc/attachment.pgp>

[freenet-dev] What should be in 0.8, and when should it be released?

2009-05-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
least 'some' priority after 0.8 is released. Well, maybe for 0.8. The immediate future is 0.7.5. > > Also, would it be possible to make an alternate update script that > fetches the latest .jar off freenet instead of the website using that > CLI tool mentioned in config page? That would require a working node, in which case update over Freenet should work. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 835 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20090516/2895088b/attachment.pgp>

[freenet-dev] Usability test results

2009-05-16 Thread Florent Daignière
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[freenet-dev] Usability test results

2009-05-16 Thread Florent Daignière
utomatically detecting locality based on external ip address would > help (e.g. a node could preferentially keep any opennet peers that it > finds as being local). > That's what darknet connections are about. Opennet nodes connecting to the same darknet nodes is a BUG which has already been reported and has a ticket on mantis. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20090516/9c32cc4f/attachment.pgp>

[freenet-dev] Usability test results

2009-05-16 Thread Florent Daignière
ers that it > > finds as being local). > > Wouldn't it take much load off the "internet", i.e. small bandwidth > connections, if any nodes which are connected via LAN used the LAN for > routing > requests if possible? > > I think the LAN could behave like a "single large node", i.e. requests for > data which is stored within the LAN would be answered very fast, and much > data > could be stored if there are many nodes on a LAN. > The idea is not new, at the beginning bloom-filter sharing was supposed to be for darknet nodes or "local" nodes. There is also a ticket on mantis describing that -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20090516/cd49a389/attachment.pgp>

[freenet-dev] Usability test results

2009-05-16 Thread Thomas Sachau
pidity. Either users read a message and act the right way or they dont. You cannot prevent them from doing bad things. Additionally, Gentoo is about choice, if there is a warning, the user can choose, with a forcing script, there is no choice, which is a bad idea for this philosophy, therefor i vote against such a script for linux. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 315 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20090516/4f2da134/attachment.pgp>

[freenet-dev] Usability test results

2009-05-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
choose, with a forcing > script, there is no choice, which is a bad idea for this philosophy, therefor i vote against such a > script for linux. Well, we already have a Browse Freenet script on all three platforms. Currently it detects browsers that we know about. You don't have to use it if you don't want to. But we should extend it to use incognito mode if possible, and to favour browsers with such support. I dunno how we can determine whether such a mode works with the particular installed version though... -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 835 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20090516/9e27cd6f/attachment.pgp>

[freenet-dev] Infocalypse feedback (Mercurial over Freenet)

2009-05-16 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
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[freenet-dev] Please help us test the new wininstaller (Vista users especially welcome)

2009-05-16 Thread gh...@hushmail.com
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Using the current wininstaller (FreenetInstaller-1210), I installed into Windows 7 x64 Build 7100. Installed java as prompted (x32). Install went very well. The uninstaller leaves user 'Freenet' and I updated my open ticket(bug) with these results.