* xor <x...@gmx.li> [2009-05-15 22:07:34]:

> On Friday 15 May 2009 20:04:58 Robert Hailey wrote:
> > On May 15, 2009, at 11:57 AM, xor wrote:
> > > On Friday 15 May 2009 18:37:12 Thomas Sachau wrote:
> > >> xor schrieb:
> > >>> On Thursday 14 May 2009 19:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote:
> > >>>> Matthew Toseland schrieb:
> > >>>>> My observation: Can we get rid of the "I will configure it
> > >>>>> manually"
> > >>>>> choice? And maybe the welcome page? (#3094)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> You want to force everyone to use the Wizard?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Because we were both on the same LAN, it did not connect, until
> > >>>>> I told
> > >>>>> him to set it to allow local addresses on that peer. There
> > >>>>> should be a
> > >>>>> checkbox when adding a noderef, defaulting to on, "Friend may be
> > >>>>> on the
> > >>>>> same local network as me" or something. (#3098)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This is imho not usual, so i would set this to very low priority
> > >>>> and
> > >>>> only for advanced mode enabled.
> > >>>
> > >>> IMHO the current behavior is a "bug" though: We have the MDNS
> > >>> plugin,
> > >>> which is installed by default and should automatically (opennet-)
> > >>> connect
> > >>> nodes on a LAN. However it does not work because LAN connections are
> > >>> disallowed by default.
> > >>
> > >> Afaik that plugin is no longer installed by default.
> > >
> > > Why not? I like the idea of self-organizing Freenet on LANs very
> > > much :)
> > >
> > > Especially if you consider large public or private LANs where two
> > > people
> > > running Freenet might not even know each others, so they couldn't
> > > get manually
> > > connected.
> >
> > Hmmm... but does a node want to advertise that we are running freenet?
> > Maybe dependent on the security level setting.
> 
> The more people confess that they are running Freenet, the more difficult it 
> becomes to blame an individual as guilty for running it.
> 
> Further, if you run opennet, you are screwed anyway, and MDNS is mostly 
> useful 
> for Opennet.
> 
> > In either case, a small network would have major issues if it was not
> > also connected to the large network, and so I think still that
> > automatically detecting locality based on external ip address would
> > help (e.g. a node could preferentially keep any opennet peers that it
> > finds as being local).
> 
> Wouldn't it take much load off the "internet", i.e. small bandwidth 
> connections, if any nodes which are connected via LAN used the LAN for 
> routing 
> requests if possible?
> 
> I think the LAN could behave like a "single large node", i.e. requests for 
> data which is stored within the LAN would be answered very fast, and much 
> data 
> could be stored if there are many nodes on a LAN.
> 

The idea is not new, at the beginning bloom-filter sharing was supposed
to be for darknet nodes or "local" nodes.

There is also a ticket on mantis describing that

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