* Robert Hailey <rob...@freenetproject.org> [2009-05-15 13:04:58]:

> 
> On May 15, 2009, at 11:57 AM, xor wrote:
> 
> > On Friday 15 May 2009 18:37:12 Thomas Sachau wrote:
> >> xor schrieb:
> >>> On Thursday 14 May 2009 19:35:07 Thomas Sachau wrote:
> >>>> Matthew Toseland schrieb:
> >>>>> My observation: Can we get rid of the "I will configure it  
> >>>>> manually"
> >>>>> choice? And maybe the welcome page? (#3094)
> >>>>
> >>>> You want to force everyone to use the Wizard?
> >>>>
> >>>>> Because we were both on the same LAN, it did not connect, until  
> >>>>> I told
> >>>>> him to set it to allow local addresses on that peer. There  
> >>>>> should be a
> >>>>> checkbox when adding a noderef, defaulting to on, "Friend may be  
> >>>>> on the
> >>>>> same local network as me" or something. (#3098)
> >>>>
> >>>> This is imho not usual, so i would set this to very low priority  
> >>>> and
> >>>> only for advanced mode enabled.
> >>>
> >>> IMHO the current behavior is a "bug" though: We have the MDNS  
> >>> plugin,
> >>> which is installed by default and should automatically (opennet-)  
> >>> connect
> >>> nodes on a LAN. However it does not work because LAN connections are
> >>> disallowed by default.
> >>
> >> Afaik that plugin is no longer installed by default.
> >
> > Why not? I like the idea of self-organizing Freenet on LANs very  
> > much :)
> >
> > Especially if you consider large public or private LANs where two  
> > people
> > running Freenet might not even know each others, so they couldn't  
> > get manually
> > connected.
> >
> 
> Hmmm... but does a node want to advertise that we are running freenet?  
> Maybe dependent on the security level setting.
> 
> In either case, a small network would have major issues if it was not  
> also connected to the large network,

Ever heard of darknet?

> and so I think still that  
> automatically detecting locality based on external ip address would  
> help (e.g. a node could preferentially keep any opennet peers that it  
> finds as being local).
> 

That's what darknet connections are about. Opennet nodes connecting to
the same darknet nodes is a BUG which has already been reported and has
a ticket on mantis.

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