Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Delete all in the recycle bin
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 3:40 PM Simon Urli wrote: > > > On 02/11/2018 12:32, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote: > > K, but we should preserve the position of the button, even though we > don't > > have checkboxes, so C2 would be the solution, but instead of button, we > > should reuse the Livetable actions styling. WDYT? > > I'm ok with preserving the position of the button. > Now regarding the kind of button we want to display, I'm a bit afraid > that using the same delete icon might be confusing for the user, and > that he'd need to click on it to understand it's a "delete all". > > I also want to have consistency but we need to make obvious the role of > this button. > > > Side remark about the icon used in this livetable: it seems that for the > icons actions we're not using the Icon Theme Application > ( > https://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Icon%20Theme%20Application), > > is it on purpose? > > It's old, see https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-14343 > > > Simon > > > > On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 1:27 PM Marius Dumitru Florea < > > mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com> wrote: > > > >> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 1:13 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > >> vali...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> What's the difference between C2 and D? > >> > >> > >> D is about allowing the user to select the pages to delete. This means > >> having a checkbox on each row to be able to select it and having a > Select > >> All / None buttons / links to select all rows or none. > >> > >> C is about all or none, no custom selection. > >> > >> > >>> For me it's the same thing. You > >>> just used button instead of the livetable styling for actions. In D, > I'm > >>> showed how it would look like with multiple actions, but if you remove > >> the > >>> Restore, and keep just Delete All, C2 and D it's the same thing. And I > >>> prefer this version. > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> Caty > >>> > >>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 1:01 PM Marius Dumitru Florea < > >>> mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com> wrote: > >>> > If you put it in the Actions column then you need to have space for a > "Restore all" button or any other bulk action that we may add later. > It > looks OK with one button but it doesn't look good IMO with two big > >>> buttons. > > Thanks, > Marius > > On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 12:48 PM Simon Urli > >> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I just edited the design page to propose two variants for the place > >> of > > the button in C : > > > > > > >>> > >> > https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin#HVariants > > > > Don't hesitate to give me some feedback or to propose other design. > > > > Simon > > > > On 02/11/2018 10:10, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 1:19 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > > vali...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> I don't like solution C. It will not be consistent with anything > >> and > > will > >>> look horrible. > >>> > >> > >> We have a few places where we have buttons above / below the live > table: > >> > >> * Wiki index (Create Wiki above the live table) > >> * Licensed Extensions (Check for Updates below the live table) > >> * Users Administration section (Create User below the live table) > >> * Groups Administration section (Create Group below the live table) > >> * Data Type (Create this Class above the live table) > >> * Class Sheet (Create this Page above the live table) > >> > >> So I don't see the problem with option C. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Marius > >> > >> > >>> > >>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:38 AM Simon Urli >>> > > wrote: > >>> > Hi everyone, > > thanks for your answers. > I'll do solution C for the next release then, we can continue > >>> discuss > about D in the dedicated issue. > > Simon > > On 29/10/2018 16:23, Guillaume Delhumeau wrote: > > +1 for C. > > > > D could be nice but from the user perspective, I think a big > >>> button > >>> like > > "clear the recycle bin" is simpler than a generic "bulk" action. > > > > Le lun. 29 oct. 2018 à 15:17, Adel Atallah < > >>> adel.atal...@xwiki.com> > a > > écrit : > > > >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah < > > adel.atal...@xwiki.com > > >> wrote: > >>> > Hello Simon, > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli < > >>> simon.u...@xwiki.com > > > >> wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" > >> functionality > >>> in > >>> the
Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Delete all in the recycle bin
On 02/11/2018 12:32, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote: K, but we should preserve the position of the button, even though we don't have checkboxes, so C2 would be the solution, but instead of button, we should reuse the Livetable actions styling. WDYT? I'm ok with preserving the position of the button. Now regarding the kind of button we want to display, I'm a bit afraid that using the same delete icon might be confusing for the user, and that he'd need to click on it to understand it's a "delete all". I also want to have consistency but we need to make obvious the role of this button. Side remark about the icon used in this livetable: it seems that for the icons actions we're not using the Icon Theme Application (https://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Icon%20Theme%20Application), is it on purpose? Simon On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 1:27 PM Marius Dumitru Florea < mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com> wrote: On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 1:13 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < vali...@gmail.com> wrote: What's the difference between C2 and D? D is about allowing the user to select the pages to delete. This means having a checkbox on each row to be able to select it and having a Select All / None buttons / links to select all rows or none. C is about all or none, no custom selection. For me it's the same thing. You just used button instead of the livetable styling for actions. In D, I'm showed how it would look like with multiple actions, but if you remove the Restore, and keep just Delete All, C2 and D it's the same thing. And I prefer this version. Thanks, Caty On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 1:01 PM Marius Dumitru Florea < mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com> wrote: If you put it in the Actions column then you need to have space for a "Restore all" button or any other bulk action that we may add later. It looks OK with one button but it doesn't look good IMO with two big buttons. Thanks, Marius On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 12:48 PM Simon Urli wrote: Hi all, I just edited the design page to propose two variants for the place of the button in C : https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin#HVariants Don't hesitate to give me some feedback or to propose other design. Simon On 02/11/2018 10:10, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 1:19 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < vali...@gmail.com> wrote: I don't like solution C. It will not be consistent with anything and will look horrible. We have a few places where we have buttons above / below the live table: * Wiki index (Create Wiki above the live table) * Licensed Extensions (Check for Updates below the live table) * Users Administration section (Create User below the live table) * Groups Administration section (Create Group below the live table) * Data Type (Create this Class above the live table) * Class Sheet (Create this Page above the live table) So I don't see the problem with option C. Thanks, Marius On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:38 AM Simon Urli wrote: Hi everyone, thanks for your answers. I'll do solution C for the next release then, we can continue discuss about D in the dedicated issue. Simon On 29/10/2018 16:23, Guillaume Delhumeau wrote: +1 for C. D could be nice but from the user perspective, I think a big button like "clear the recycle bin" is simpler than a generic "bulk" action. Le lun. 29 oct. 2018 à 15:17, Adel Atallah < adel.atal...@xwiki.com> a écrit : On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah < adel.atal...@xwiki.com wrote: Hello Simon, On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli < simon.u...@xwiki.com wrote: Hi everyone, I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in the recycle bin. However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like for the users. I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin The 4 proposal are numbered as following: A. A simple button -1 B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it -0 as it feels a bit weird. C. A button and a modal to confirm the action +1 D. A generic bulk action on the livetable +1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also need a confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix between D. + C. If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use cases, since this needs is recurrent. It would be great to list the possible use cases to see if the development of this feature is worth the effort. For now, the only use case that comes to my mind is for the deletion action. Thanks, Caty +1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated to do. Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. Simon -- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS simon.u...@xwiki.com More about
Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Delete all in the recycle bin
K, but we should preserve the position of the button, even though we don't have checkboxes, so C2 would be the solution, but instead of button, we should reuse the Livetable actions styling. WDYT? On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 1:27 PM Marius Dumitru Florea < mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 1:13 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > vali...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > What's the difference between C2 and D? > > > D is about allowing the user to select the pages to delete. This means > having a checkbox on each row to be able to select it and having a Select > All / None buttons / links to select all rows or none. > > C is about all or none, no custom selection. > > > > For me it's the same thing. You > > just used button instead of the livetable styling for actions. In D, I'm > > showed how it would look like with multiple actions, but if you remove > the > > Restore, and keep just Delete All, C2 and D it's the same thing. And I > > prefer this version. > > > > Thanks, > > Caty > > > > On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 1:01 PM Marius Dumitru Florea < > > mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com> wrote: > > > > > If you put it in the Actions column then you need to have space for a > > > "Restore all" button or any other bulk action that we may add later. It > > > looks OK with one button but it doesn't look good IMO with two big > > buttons. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Marius > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 12:48 PM Simon Urli > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I just edited the design page to propose two variants for the place > of > > > > the button in C : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin#HVariants > > > > > > > > Don't hesitate to give me some feedback or to propose other design. > > > > > > > > Simon > > > > > > > > On 02/11/2018 10:10, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 1:19 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > > > > vali...@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> I don't like solution C. It will not be consistent with anything > and > > > > will > > > > >> look horrible. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > We have a few places where we have buttons above / below the live > > > table: > > > > > > > > > > * Wiki index (Create Wiki above the live table) > > > > > * Licensed Extensions (Check for Updates below the live table) > > > > > * Users Administration section (Create User below the live table) > > > > > * Groups Administration section (Create Group below the live table) > > > > > * Data Type (Create this Class above the live table) > > > > > * Class Sheet (Create this Page above the live table) > > > > > > > > > > So I don't see the problem with option C. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Marius > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:38 AM Simon Urli > > > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >>> Hi everyone, > > > > >>> > > > > >>> thanks for your answers. > > > > >>> I'll do solution C for the next release then, we can continue > > discuss > > > > >>> about D in the dedicated issue. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Simon > > > > >>> > > > > >>> On 29/10/2018 16:23, Guillaume Delhumeau wrote: > > > > +1 for C. > > > > > > > > D could be nice but from the user perspective, I think a big > > button > > > > >> like > > > > "clear the recycle bin" is simpler than a generic "bulk" action. > > > > > > > > Le lun. 29 oct. 2018 à 15:17, Adel Atallah < > > adel.atal...@xwiki.com> > > > a > > > > écrit : > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) > > > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah < > > > > adel.atal...@xwiki.com > > > > >>> > > > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >>> Hello Simon, > > > > >>> > > > > >>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli < > > simon.u...@xwiki.com > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" > functionality > > in > > > > >> the > > > > recycle bin. > > > > However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks > > > like > > > > >> for > > > > the users. > > > > I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin > > > > > > > > The 4 proposal are numbered as following: > > > > > > > > A. A simple button > > > > >>> -1 > > > > B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it > > > > >>> -0 as it feels a bit weird. > > > > C. A button and a modal to confirm the action > > > > >>> +1 > > > > D. A generic bulk action on the livetable > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> +1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we
Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Delete all in the recycle bin
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 1:13 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote: > What's the difference between C2 and D? D is about allowing the user to select the pages to delete. This means having a checkbox on each row to be able to select it and having a Select All / None buttons / links to select all rows or none. C is about all or none, no custom selection. > For me it's the same thing. You > just used button instead of the livetable styling for actions. In D, I'm > showed how it would look like with multiple actions, but if you remove the > Restore, and keep just Delete All, C2 and D it's the same thing. And I > prefer this version. > > Thanks, > Caty > > On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 1:01 PM Marius Dumitru Florea < > mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com> wrote: > > > If you put it in the Actions column then you need to have space for a > > "Restore all" button or any other bulk action that we may add later. It > > looks OK with one button but it doesn't look good IMO with two big > buttons. > > > > Thanks, > > Marius > > > > On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 12:48 PM Simon Urli wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I just edited the design page to propose two variants for the place of > > > the button in C : > > > > > > > > > https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin#HVariants > > > > > > Don't hesitate to give me some feedback or to propose other design. > > > > > > Simon > > > > > > On 02/11/2018 10:10, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote: > > > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 1:19 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > > > vali...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> I don't like solution C. It will not be consistent with anything and > > > will > > > >> look horrible. > > > >> > > > > > > > > We have a few places where we have buttons above / below the live > > table: > > > > > > > > * Wiki index (Create Wiki above the live table) > > > > * Licensed Extensions (Check for Updates below the live table) > > > > * Users Administration section (Create User below the live table) > > > > * Groups Administration section (Create Group below the live table) > > > > * Data Type (Create this Class above the live table) > > > > * Class Sheet (Create this Page above the live table) > > > > > > > > So I don't see the problem with option C. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Marius > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:38 AM Simon Urli > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Hi everyone, > > > >>> > > > >>> thanks for your answers. > > > >>> I'll do solution C for the next release then, we can continue > discuss > > > >>> about D in the dedicated issue. > > > >>> > > > >>> Simon > > > >>> > > > >>> On 29/10/2018 16:23, Guillaume Delhumeau wrote: > > > +1 for C. > > > > > > D could be nice but from the user perspective, I think a big > button > > > >> like > > > "clear the recycle bin" is simpler than a generic "bulk" action. > > > > > > Le lun. 29 oct. 2018 à 15:17, Adel Atallah < > adel.atal...@xwiki.com> > > a > > > écrit : > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) > > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah < > > > adel.atal...@xwiki.com > > > >>> > > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Hello Simon, > > > >>> > > > >>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli < > simon.u...@xwiki.com > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality > in > > > >> the > > > recycle bin. > > > However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks > > like > > > >> for > > > the users. > > > I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin > > > > > > The 4 proposal are numbered as following: > > > > > > A. A simple button > > > >>> -1 > > > B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it > > > >>> -0 as it feels a bit weird. > > > C. A button and a modal to confirm the action > > > >>> +1 > > > D. A generic bulk action on the livetable > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> +1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also > > > >> need a > > > >> confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix > > > >> between > > > > D. + > > > >> C. > > > >> If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use > > > >> cases, > > > >> since this needs is recurrent. > > > > > > > > It would be great to list the possible use cases to see if the > > > > development of this feature is worth the effort. For now, the > only > > > use > > > > case that comes to my mind is for the deletion action. > > > > > > > >> > > > >> Thanks, > > > >> Caty > > > >> >
Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Delete all in the recycle bin
What's the difference between C2 and D? For me it's the same thing. You just used button instead of the livetable styling for actions. In D, I'm showed how it would look like with multiple actions, but if you remove the Restore, and keep just Delete All, C2 and D it's the same thing. And I prefer this version. Thanks, Caty On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 1:01 PM Marius Dumitru Florea < mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com> wrote: > If you put it in the Actions column then you need to have space for a > "Restore all" button or any other bulk action that we may add later. It > looks OK with one button but it doesn't look good IMO with two big buttons. > > Thanks, > Marius > > On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 12:48 PM Simon Urli wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I just edited the design page to propose two variants for the place of > > the button in C : > > > > > https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin#HVariants > > > > Don't hesitate to give me some feedback or to propose other design. > > > > Simon > > > > On 02/11/2018 10:10, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 1:19 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > > vali...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> I don't like solution C. It will not be consistent with anything and > > will > > >> look horrible. > > >> > > > > > > We have a few places where we have buttons above / below the live > table: > > > > > > * Wiki index (Create Wiki above the live table) > > > * Licensed Extensions (Check for Updates below the live table) > > > * Users Administration section (Create User below the live table) > > > * Groups Administration section (Create Group below the live table) > > > * Data Type (Create this Class above the live table) > > > * Class Sheet (Create this Page above the live table) > > > > > > So I don't see the problem with option C. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Marius > > > > > > > > >> > > >> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:38 AM Simon Urli > > wrote: > > >> > > >>> Hi everyone, > > >>> > > >>> thanks for your answers. > > >>> I'll do solution C for the next release then, we can continue discuss > > >>> about D in the dedicated issue. > > >>> > > >>> Simon > > >>> > > >>> On 29/10/2018 16:23, Guillaume Delhumeau wrote: > > +1 for C. > > > > D could be nice but from the user perspective, I think a big button > > >> like > > "clear the recycle bin" is simpler than a generic "bulk" action. > > > > Le lun. 29 oct. 2018 à 15:17, Adel Atallah > a > > écrit : > > > > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah < > > adel.atal...@xwiki.com > > >>> > > > wrote: > > >> > > >>> Hello Simon, > > >>> > > >>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli > > > > wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in > > >> the > > recycle bin. > > However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks > like > > >> for > > the users. > > I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: > > > > > > > >>> > > https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin > > > > The 4 proposal are numbered as following: > > > > A. A simple button > > >>> -1 > > B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it > > >>> -0 as it feels a bit weird. > > C. A button and a modal to confirm the action > > >>> +1 > > D. A generic bulk action on the livetable > > >>> > > >> > > >> +1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also > > >> need a > > >> confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix > > >> between > > > D. + > > >> C. > > >> If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use > > >> cases, > > >> since this needs is recurrent. > > > > > > It would be great to list the possible use cases to see if the > > > development of this feature is worth the effort. For now, the only > > use > > > case that comes to my mind is for the deletion action. > > > > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> Caty > > >> > > >> > > >>> +1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated > to > > >>> do. > > > > Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. > > > > Simon > > -- > > Simon Urli > > Software Engineer at XWiki SAS > > simon.u...@xwiki.com > > More about us at http://www.xwiki.com > > >>> > > >>> Thanks, > > >>> Adel > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> Simon Urli > > >>> Software Engineer at XWiki SAS > > >>> simon.u...@xwiki.com > > >>> More about us at http://www.xwiki.com > > >>> > > >> > > > > -- > > Simon Urli > > Software
Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Delete all in the recycle bin
If you put it in the Actions column then you need to have space for a "Restore all" button or any other bulk action that we may add later. It looks OK with one button but it doesn't look good IMO with two big buttons. Thanks, Marius On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 12:48 PM Simon Urli wrote: > Hi all, > > I just edited the design page to propose two variants for the place of > the button in C : > > https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin#HVariants > > Don't hesitate to give me some feedback or to propose other design. > > Simon > > On 02/11/2018 10:10, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 1:19 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > vali...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> I don't like solution C. It will not be consistent with anything and > will > >> look horrible. > >> > > > > We have a few places where we have buttons above / below the live table: > > > > * Wiki index (Create Wiki above the live table) > > * Licensed Extensions (Check for Updates below the live table) > > * Users Administration section (Create User below the live table) > > * Groups Administration section (Create Group below the live table) > > * Data Type (Create this Class above the live table) > > * Class Sheet (Create this Page above the live table) > > > > So I don't see the problem with option C. > > > > Thanks, > > Marius > > > > > >> > >> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:38 AM Simon Urli > wrote: > >> > >>> Hi everyone, > >>> > >>> thanks for your answers. > >>> I'll do solution C for the next release then, we can continue discuss > >>> about D in the dedicated issue. > >>> > >>> Simon > >>> > >>> On 29/10/2018 16:23, Guillaume Delhumeau wrote: > +1 for C. > > D could be nice but from the user perspective, I think a big button > >> like > "clear the recycle bin" is simpler than a generic "bulk" action. > > Le lun. 29 oct. 2018 à 15:17, Adel Atallah a > écrit : > > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) > > wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah < > adel.atal...@xwiki.com > >>> > > wrote: > >> > >>> Hello Simon, > >>> > >>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli > > wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in > >> the > recycle bin. > However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like > >> for > the users. > I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: > > > > >>> > https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin > > The 4 proposal are numbered as following: > > A. A simple button > >>> -1 > B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it > >>> -0 as it feels a bit weird. > C. A button and a modal to confirm the action > >>> +1 > D. A generic bulk action on the livetable > >>> > >> > >> +1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also > >> need a > >> confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix > >> between > > D. + > >> C. > >> If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use > >> cases, > >> since this needs is recurrent. > > > > It would be great to list the possible use cases to see if the > > development of this feature is worth the effort. For now, the only > use > > case that comes to my mind is for the deletion action. > > > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Caty > >> > >> > >>> +1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated to > >>> do. > > Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. > > Simon > -- > Simon Urli > Software Engineer at XWiki SAS > simon.u...@xwiki.com > More about us at http://www.xwiki.com > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> Adel > >>> > > > > > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Simon Urli > >>> Software Engineer at XWiki SAS > >>> simon.u...@xwiki.com > >>> More about us at http://www.xwiki.com > >>> > >> > > -- > Simon Urli > Software Engineer at XWiki SAS > simon.u...@xwiki.com > More about us at http://www.xwiki.com >
Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Delete all in the recycle bin
Hi all, I just edited the design page to propose two variants for the place of the button in C : https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin#HVariants Don't hesitate to give me some feedback or to propose other design. Simon On 02/11/2018 10:10, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 1:19 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote: I don't like solution C. It will not be consistent with anything and will look horrible. We have a few places where we have buttons above / below the live table: * Wiki index (Create Wiki above the live table) * Licensed Extensions (Check for Updates below the live table) * Users Administration section (Create User below the live table) * Groups Administration section (Create Group below the live table) * Data Type (Create this Class above the live table) * Class Sheet (Create this Page above the live table) So I don't see the problem with option C. Thanks, Marius On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:38 AM Simon Urli wrote: Hi everyone, thanks for your answers. I'll do solution C for the next release then, we can continue discuss about D in the dedicated issue. Simon On 29/10/2018 16:23, Guillaume Delhumeau wrote: +1 for C. D could be nice but from the user perspective, I think a big button like "clear the recycle bin" is simpler than a generic "bulk" action. Le lun. 29 oct. 2018 à 15:17, Adel Atallah a écrit : On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah wrote: Hello Simon, On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli wrote: Hi everyone, I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in the recycle bin. However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like for the users. I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin The 4 proposal are numbered as following: A. A simple button -1 B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it -0 as it feels a bit weird. C. A button and a modal to confirm the action +1 D. A generic bulk action on the livetable +1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also need a confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix between D. + C. If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use cases, since this needs is recurrent. It would be great to list the possible use cases to see if the development of this feature is worth the effort. For now, the only use case that comes to my mind is for the deletion action. Thanks, Caty +1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated to do. Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. Simon -- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS simon.u...@xwiki.com More about us at http://www.xwiki.com Thanks, Adel -- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS simon.u...@xwiki.com More about us at http://www.xwiki.com -- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS simon.u...@xwiki.com More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Delete all in the recycle bin
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 1:19 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote: > I don't like solution C. It will not be consistent with anything and will > look horrible. > We have a few places where we have buttons above / below the live table: * Wiki index (Create Wiki above the live table) * Licensed Extensions (Check for Updates below the live table) * Users Administration section (Create User below the live table) * Groups Administration section (Create Group below the live table) * Data Type (Create this Class above the live table) * Class Sheet (Create this Page above the live table) So I don't see the problem with option C. Thanks, Marius > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:38 AM Simon Urli wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > thanks for your answers. > > I'll do solution C for the next release then, we can continue discuss > > about D in the dedicated issue. > > > > Simon > > > > On 29/10/2018 16:23, Guillaume Delhumeau wrote: > > > +1 for C. > > > > > > D could be nice but from the user perspective, I think a big button > like > > > "clear the recycle bin" is simpler than a generic "bulk" action. > > > > > > Le lun. 29 oct. 2018 à 15:17, Adel Atallah a > > > écrit : > > > > > >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) > > >> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah > > > >> wrote: > > >>> > > Hello Simon, > > > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli > > >> wrote: > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in > the > > > recycle bin. > > > However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like > for > > > the users. > > > I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: > > > > > >> > > https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin > > > > > > The 4 proposal are numbered as following: > > > > > > A. A simple button > > -1 > > > B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it > > -0 as it feels a bit weird. > > > C. A button and a modal to confirm the action > > +1 > > > D. A generic bulk action on the livetable > > > > >>> > > >>> +1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also > need a > > >>> confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix > between > > >> D. + > > >>> C. > > >>> If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use > cases, > > >>> since this needs is recurrent. > > >> > > >> It would be great to list the possible use cases to see if the > > >> development of this feature is worth the effort. For now, the only use > > >> case that comes to my mind is for the deletion action. > > >> > > >>> > > >>> Thanks, > > >>> Caty > > >>> > > >>> > > +1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated to > > do. > > > > > > Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. > > > > > > Simon > > > -- > > > Simon Urli > > > Software Engineer at XWiki SAS > > > simon.u...@xwiki.com > > > More about us at http://www.xwiki.com > > > > Thanks, > > Adel > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Simon Urli > > Software Engineer at XWiki SAS > > simon.u...@xwiki.com > > More about us at http://www.xwiki.com > > >
Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Delete all in the recycle bin
Clearly, the way it looks like could be improved, but it does not dismiss the principle. Le mer. 31 oct. 2018 à 14:00, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) a écrit : > > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 1:35 PM Guillaume Delhumeau < > guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com> wrote: > >> This is what the recycle bin of a Macintosh looks like: >> https://image.ibb.co/nBjh8L/Recycle-Bin.png >> > > The button you are referencing is not floating in the middle of the page > or after a 10 items livetable. Its position is inside a clear toolbar. > > >> >> I think many users think this "clean" button is usefull, even if it is >> unconsistent with what all other places look like in the Finder. Same with >> Gmail. And I miss this feature in the Apple "Mail" application. >> >> Since "Recycle Bin" is a "special" place with a "special" use-case, I >> don't think it's horrible to have a special button to make it easy to use. >> I would hate to have to play with bulk actions for this simple use-case >> because of "consistency". >> >> Le mer. 31 oct. 2018 à 12:22, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < >> vali...@gmail.com> a écrit : >> >>> I would be even -1 for any other solution than D. Especially since, if >>> we do it with C, I don't know when we will come back and redo the >>> functionality. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 1:18 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < >>> vali...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> I don't like solution C. It will not be consistent with anything and will look horrible. On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:38 AM Simon Urli wrote: > Hi everyone, > > thanks for your answers. > I'll do solution C for the next release then, we can continue discuss > about D in the dedicated issue. > > Simon > > On 29/10/2018 16:23, Guillaume Delhumeau wrote: > > +1 for C. > > > > D could be nice but from the user perspective, I think a big button > like > > "clear the recycle bin" is simpler than a generic "bulk" action. > > > > Le lun. 29 oct. 2018 à 15:17, Adel Atallah > a > > écrit : > > > >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah < > adel.atal...@xwiki.com> > >> wrote: > >>> > Hello Simon, > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli > >> wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in > the > > recycle bin. > > However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks > like for > > the users. > > I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: > > > >> > https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin > > > > The 4 proposal are numbered as following: > > > > A. A simple button > -1 > > B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it > -0 as it feels a bit weird. > > C. A button and a modal to confirm the action > +1 > > D. A generic bulk action on the livetable > > >>> > >>> +1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also > need a > >>> confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix > between > >> D. + > >>> C. > >>> If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use > cases, > >>> since this needs is recurrent. > >> > >> It would be great to list the possible use cases to see if the > >> development of this feature is worth the effort. For now, the only > use > >> case that comes to my mind is for the deletion action. > >> > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> Caty > >>> > >>> > +1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated > to do. > > > > Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. > > > > Simon > > -- > > Simon Urli > > Software Engineer at XWiki SAS > > simon.u...@xwiki.com > > More about us at http://www.xwiki.com > > Thanks, > Adel > > >> > > > > > > -- > Simon Urli > Software Engineer at XWiki SAS > simon.u...@xwiki.com > More about us at http://www.xwiki.com > >> >> -- >> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com) >> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS >> Committer on the XWiki.org project >> > -- Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com) Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS Committer on the XWiki.org project
Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Delete all in the recycle bin
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 1:35 PM Guillaume Delhumeau < guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com> wrote: > This is what the recycle bin of a Macintosh looks like: > https://image.ibb.co/nBjh8L/Recycle-Bin.png > The button you are referencing is not floating in the middle of the page or after a 10 items livetable. Its position is inside a clear toolbar. > > I think many users think this "clean" button is usefull, even if it is > unconsistent with what all other places look like in the Finder. Same with > Gmail. And I miss this feature in the Apple "Mail" application. > > Since "Recycle Bin" is a "special" place with a "special" use-case, I > don't think it's horrible to have a special button to make it easy to use. > I would hate to have to play with bulk actions for this simple use-case > because of "consistency". > > Le mer. 31 oct. 2018 à 12:22, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) > a écrit : > >> I would be even -1 for any other solution than D. Especially since, if we >> do it with C, I don't know when we will come back and redo the >> functionality. >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 1:18 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < >> vali...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I don't like solution C. It will not be consistent with anything and >>> will look horrible. >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:38 AM Simon Urli >>> wrote: >>> Hi everyone, thanks for your answers. I'll do solution C for the next release then, we can continue discuss about D in the dedicated issue. Simon On 29/10/2018 16:23, Guillaume Delhumeau wrote: > +1 for C. > > D could be nice but from the user perspective, I think a big button like > "clear the recycle bin" is simpler than a generic "bulk" action. > > Le lun. 29 oct. 2018 à 15:17, Adel Atallah a > écrit : > >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) >> wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah < adel.atal...@xwiki.com> >> wrote: >>> Hello Simon, On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli >> wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in the > recycle bin. > However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like for > the users. > I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: > >> https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin > > The 4 proposal are numbered as following: > > A. A simple button -1 > B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it -0 as it feels a bit weird. > C. A button and a modal to confirm the action +1 > D. A generic bulk action on the livetable >>> >>> +1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also need a >>> confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix between >> D. + >>> C. >>> If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use cases, >>> since this needs is recurrent. >> >> It would be great to list the possible use cases to see if the >> development of this feature is worth the effort. For now, the only use >> case that comes to my mind is for the deletion action. >> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Caty >>> >>> +1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated to do. > > Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. > > Simon > -- > Simon Urli > Software Engineer at XWiki SAS > simon.u...@xwiki.com > More about us at http://www.xwiki.com Thanks, Adel >> > > -- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS simon.u...@xwiki.com More about us at http://www.xwiki.com >>> > > -- > Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com) > Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS > Committer on the XWiki.org project >
Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Delete all in the recycle bin
Hi, > On 31 Oct 2018, at 12:22, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote: > > I would be even -1 for any other solution than D. Especially since, if we > do it with C, I don't know when we will come back and redo the > functionality. AFAIK, there’s definitely no time to implement D in XWiki 10.10 and it’s way better to have C than not do anything so I’m still in favor of C for 10.10. Now if we just agree that we prefer an icon/button inside the LT filter zone in the Actions column, then it’s also fine with me. Thanks -Vincent > On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 1:18 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) > wrote: > >> I don't like solution C. It will not be consistent with anything and will >> look horrible. >> >> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:38 AM Simon Urli wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> thanks for your answers. >>> I'll do solution C for the next release then, we can continue discuss >>> about D in the dedicated issue. >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> On 29/10/2018 16:23, Guillaume Delhumeau wrote: +1 for C. D could be nice but from the user perspective, I think a big button like "clear the recycle bin" is simpler than a generic "bulk" action. Le lun. 29 oct. 2018 à 15:17, Adel Atallah a écrit : > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) > wrote: >> >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah > wrote: >> >>> Hello Simon, >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli > wrote: Hi everyone, I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in the recycle bin. However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like >>> for the users. I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: > >>> https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin The 4 proposal are numbered as following: A. A simple button >>> -1 B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it >>> -0 as it feels a bit weird. C. A button and a modal to confirm the action >>> +1 D. A generic bulk action on the livetable >>> >> >> +1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also need >>> a >> confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix between > D. + >> C. >> If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use cases, >> since this needs is recurrent. > > It would be great to list the possible use cases to see if the > development of this feature is worth the effort. For now, the only use > case that comes to my mind is for the deletion action. > >> >> Thanks, >> Caty >> >> >>> +1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated to >>> do. Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. Simon -- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS simon.u...@xwiki.com More about us at http://www.xwiki.com >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Adel >>> > >>> >>> -- >>> Simon Urli >>> Software Engineer at XWiki SAS >>> simon.u...@xwiki.com >>> More about us at http://www.xwiki.com >>> >>
Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Delete all in the recycle bin
This is what the recycle bin of a Macintosh looks like: https://image.ibb.co/nBjh8L/Recycle-Bin.png I think many users think this "clean" button is usefull, even if it is unconsistent with what all other places look like in the Finder. Same with Gmail. And I miss this feature in the Apple "Mail" application. Since "Recycle Bin" is a "special" place with a "special" use-case, I don't think it's horrible to have a special button to make it easy to use. I would hate to have to play with bulk actions for this simple use-case because of "consistency". Le mer. 31 oct. 2018 à 12:22, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) a écrit : > I would be even -1 for any other solution than D. Especially since, if we > do it with C, I don't know when we will come back and redo the > functionality. > > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 1:18 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > vali...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I don't like solution C. It will not be consistent with anything and will >> look horrible. >> >> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:38 AM Simon Urli wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> thanks for your answers. >>> I'll do solution C for the next release then, we can continue discuss >>> about D in the dedicated issue. >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> On 29/10/2018 16:23, Guillaume Delhumeau wrote: >>> > +1 for C. >>> > >>> > D could be nice but from the user perspective, I think a big button >>> like >>> > "clear the recycle bin" is simpler than a generic "bulk" action. >>> > >>> > Le lun. 29 oct. 2018 à 15:17, Adel Atallah a >>> > écrit : >>> > >>> >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah >> > >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hello Simon, >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli >>> >> wrote: >>> > >>> > Hi everyone, >>> > >>> > I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in >>> the >>> > recycle bin. >>> > However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like >>> for >>> > the users. >>> > I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: >>> > >>> >> >>> https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin >>> > >>> > The 4 proposal are numbered as following: >>> > >>> > A. A simple button >>> -1 >>> > B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it >>> -0 as it feels a bit weird. >>> > C. A button and a modal to confirm the action >>> +1 >>> > D. A generic bulk action on the livetable >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> +1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also >>> need a >>> >>> confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix >>> between >>> >> D. + >>> >>> C. >>> >>> If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use >>> cases, >>> >>> since this needs is recurrent. >>> >> >>> >> It would be great to list the possible use cases to see if the >>> >> development of this feature is worth the effort. For now, the only use >>> >> case that comes to my mind is for the deletion action. >>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Caty >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> +1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated to >>> do. >>> > >>> > Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. >>> > >>> > Simon >>> > -- >>> > Simon Urli >>> > Software Engineer at XWiki SAS >>> > simon.u...@xwiki.com >>> > More about us at http://www.xwiki.com >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Adel >>> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> >>> -- >>> Simon Urli >>> Software Engineer at XWiki SAS >>> simon.u...@xwiki.com >>> More about us at http://www.xwiki.com >>> >> -- Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com) Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS Committer on the XWiki.org project
Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Delete all in the recycle bin
I would be even -1 for any other solution than D. Especially since, if we do it with C, I don't know when we will come back and redo the functionality. On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 1:18 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote: > I don't like solution C. It will not be consistent with anything and will > look horrible. > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:38 AM Simon Urli wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> thanks for your answers. >> I'll do solution C for the next release then, we can continue discuss >> about D in the dedicated issue. >> >> Simon >> >> On 29/10/2018 16:23, Guillaume Delhumeau wrote: >> > +1 for C. >> > >> > D could be nice but from the user perspective, I think a big button like >> > "clear the recycle bin" is simpler than a generic "bulk" action. >> > >> > Le lun. 29 oct. 2018 à 15:17, Adel Atallah a >> > écrit : >> > >> >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> Hello Simon, >> >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli >> >> wrote: >> > >> > Hi everyone, >> > >> > I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in the >> > recycle bin. >> > However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like >> for >> > the users. >> > I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: >> > >> >> >> https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin >> > >> > The 4 proposal are numbered as following: >> > >> > A. A simple button >> -1 >> > B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it >> -0 as it feels a bit weird. >> > C. A button and a modal to confirm the action >> +1 >> > D. A generic bulk action on the livetable >> >> >>> >> >>> +1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also need >> a >> >>> confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix between >> >> D. + >> >>> C. >> >>> If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use cases, >> >>> since this needs is recurrent. >> >> >> >> It would be great to list the possible use cases to see if the >> >> development of this feature is worth the effort. For now, the only use >> >> case that comes to my mind is for the deletion action. >> >> >> >>> >> >>> Thanks, >> >>> Caty >> >>> >> >>> >> +1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated to >> do. >> > >> > Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. >> > >> > Simon >> > -- >> > Simon Urli >> > Software Engineer at XWiki SAS >> > simon.u...@xwiki.com >> > More about us at http://www.xwiki.com >> >> Thanks, >> Adel >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> -- >> Simon Urli >> Software Engineer at XWiki SAS >> simon.u...@xwiki.com >> More about us at http://www.xwiki.com >> >
Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Delete all in the recycle bin
I don't like solution C. It will not be consistent with anything and will look horrible. On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:38 AM Simon Urli wrote: > Hi everyone, > > thanks for your answers. > I'll do solution C for the next release then, we can continue discuss > about D in the dedicated issue. > > Simon > > On 29/10/2018 16:23, Guillaume Delhumeau wrote: > > +1 for C. > > > > D could be nice but from the user perspective, I think a big button like > > "clear the recycle bin" is simpler than a generic "bulk" action. > > > > Le lun. 29 oct. 2018 à 15:17, Adel Atallah a > > écrit : > > > >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah > >> wrote: > >>> > Hello Simon, > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli > >> wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in the > > recycle bin. > > However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like for > > the users. > > I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: > > > >> > https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin > > > > The 4 proposal are numbered as following: > > > > A. A simple button > -1 > > B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it > -0 as it feels a bit weird. > > C. A button and a modal to confirm the action > +1 > > D. A generic bulk action on the livetable > > >>> > >>> +1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also need a > >>> confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix between > >> D. + > >>> C. > >>> If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use cases, > >>> since this needs is recurrent. > >> > >> It would be great to list the possible use cases to see if the > >> development of this feature is worth the effort. For now, the only use > >> case that comes to my mind is for the deletion action. > >> > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> Caty > >>> > >>> > +1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated to > do. > > > > Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. > > > > Simon > > -- > > Simon Urli > > Software Engineer at XWiki SAS > > simon.u...@xwiki.com > > More about us at http://www.xwiki.com > > Thanks, > Adel > > >> > > > > > > -- > Simon Urli > Software Engineer at XWiki SAS > simon.u...@xwiki.com > More about us at http://www.xwiki.com >
Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Delete all in the recycle bin
Hi everyone, thanks for your answers. I'll do solution C for the next release then, we can continue discuss about D in the dedicated issue. Simon On 29/10/2018 16:23, Guillaume Delhumeau wrote: +1 for C. D could be nice but from the user perspective, I think a big button like "clear the recycle bin" is simpler than a generic "bulk" action. Le lun. 29 oct. 2018 à 15:17, Adel Atallah a écrit : On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah wrote: Hello Simon, On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli wrote: Hi everyone, I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in the recycle bin. However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like for the users. I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin The 4 proposal are numbered as following: A. A simple button -1 B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it -0 as it feels a bit weird. C. A button and a modal to confirm the action +1 D. A generic bulk action on the livetable +1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also need a confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix between D. + C. If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use cases, since this needs is recurrent. It would be great to list the possible use cases to see if the development of this feature is worth the effort. For now, the only use case that comes to my mind is for the deletion action. Thanks, Caty +1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated to do. Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. Simon -- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS simon.u...@xwiki.com More about us at http://www.xwiki.com Thanks, Adel -- Simon Urli Software Engineer at XWiki SAS simon.u...@xwiki.com More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Delete all in the recycle bin
+1 for C. D could be nice but from the user perspective, I think a big button like "clear the recycle bin" is simpler than a generic "bulk" action. Le lun. 29 oct. 2018 à 15:17, Adel Atallah a écrit : > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) > wrote: > > > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah > wrote: > > > > > Hello Simon, > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in the > > > > recycle bin. > > > > However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like for > > > > the users. > > > > I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: > > > > > https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin > > > > > > > > The 4 proposal are numbered as following: > > > > > > > >A. A simple button > > > -1 > > > >B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it > > > -0 as it feels a bit weird. > > > >C. A button and a modal to confirm the action > > > +1 > > > >D. A generic bulk action on the livetable > > > > > > > +1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also need a > > confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix between > D. + > > C. > > If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use cases, > > since this needs is recurrent. > > It would be great to list the possible use cases to see if the > development of this feature is worth the effort. For now, the only use > case that comes to my mind is for the deletion action. > > > > > Thanks, > > Caty > > > > > > > +1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated to do. > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. > > > > > > > > Simon > > > > -- > > > > Simon Urli > > > > Software Engineer at XWiki SAS > > > > simon.u...@xwiki.com > > > > More about us at http://www.xwiki.com > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Adel > > > > -- Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com) Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS Committer on the XWiki.org project
Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Delete all in the recycle bin
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:17 PM Adel Atallah wrote: > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) > wrote: > > > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah > wrote: > > > > > Hello Simon, > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in the > > > > recycle bin. > > > > However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like for > > > > the users. > > > > I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: > > > > > https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin > > > > > > > > The 4 proposal are numbered as following: > > > > > > > >A. A simple button > > > -1 > > > >B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it > > > -0 as it feels a bit weird. > > > >C. A button and a modal to confirm the action > > > +1 > > > >D. A generic bulk action on the livetable > > > > > > > +1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also need a > > confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix between > D. + > > C. > > If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use cases, > > since this needs is recurrent. > > It would be great to list the possible use cases to see if the > development of this feature is worth the effort. For now, the only use > case that comes to my mind is for the deletion action. > Some examples only with the ALL Bulk action in the livetable: * AWM: "Delete all entries" action could be finally placed inside the livetable * Export all pages: could be done for the entire space (backup) * Delete all the children of a particular page * Download in a zip file with all the attachments of a particular page * Upgrade all extensions in a particular upgrade There are fewer cases for ALL, but in theory for any "Action" provided, an "[Action] All" is valid. The bulk actions goes hand in hand also with having individual checkboxes per line. So the user would select some entries and than apply the "[Action] All". This would be useful when: * Deleting/Restoring only some pages / children from a wiki / space; * Mass rollback/delete utility (for pages - as above; or even for spam users) * Copy/Move/Rename for pages/attachments from one page/wiki to another * Adding/Removing multiple users to a particular group So the bulk actions can be applied to pages, attachments, users, history, extensions, etc. > > > > > Thanks, > > Caty > > > > > > > +1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated to do. > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. > > > > > > > > Simon > > > > -- > > > > Simon Urli > > > > Software Engineer at XWiki SAS > > > > simon.u...@xwiki.com > > > > More about us at http://www.xwiki.com > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Adel > > > >
Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Delete all in the recycle bin
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:09 PM Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah wrote: > > > Hello Simon, > > > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli wrote: > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in the > > > recycle bin. > > > However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like for > > > the users. > > > I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: > > > https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin > > > > > > The 4 proposal are numbered as following: > > > > > >A. A simple button > > -1 > > >B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it > > -0 as it feels a bit weird. > > >C. A button and a modal to confirm the action > > +1 > > >D. A generic bulk action on the livetable > > > > +1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also need a > confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix between D. + > C. > If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use cases, > since this needs is recurrent. It would be great to list the possible use cases to see if the development of this feature is worth the effort. For now, the only use case that comes to my mind is for the deletion action. > > Thanks, > Caty > > > > +1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated to do. > > > > > > Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. > > > > > > Simon > > > -- > > > Simon Urli > > > Software Engineer at XWiki SAS > > > simon.u...@xwiki.com > > > More about us at http://www.xwiki.com > > > > Thanks, > > Adel > >
Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Delete all in the recycle bin
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 4:06 PM Adel Atallah wrote: > Hello Simon, > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in the > > recycle bin. > > However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like for > > the users. > > I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: > > https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin > > > > The 4 proposal are numbered as following: > > > >A. A simple button > -1 > >B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it > -0 as it feels a bit weird. > >C. A button and a modal to confirm the action > +1 > >D. A generic bulk action on the livetable > +1 for D. but since it involves multiple documents, we will also need a confirmation for these actions. So the solution would be a mix between D. + C. If we implement D. we will have the base for multiple other use cases, since this needs is recurrent. Thanks, Caty > +1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated to do. > > > > Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. > > > > Simon > > -- > > Simon Urli > > Software Engineer at XWiki SAS > > simon.u...@xwiki.com > > More about us at http://www.xwiki.com > > Thanks, > Adel >
Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Delete all in the recycle bin
Hello Simon, On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM Simon Urli wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in the > recycle bin. > However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like for > the users. > I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: > https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin > > The 4 proposal are numbered as following: > >A. A simple button -1 >B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it -0 as it feels a bit weird. >C. A button and a modal to confirm the action +1 >D. A generic bulk action on the livetable +1, this is probably the best solution but also more complicated to do. > > Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. > > Simon > -- > Simon Urli > Software Engineer at XWiki SAS > simon.u...@xwiki.com > More about us at http://www.xwiki.com Thanks, Adel
Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Delete all in the recycle bin
I would start with C. We can do D later. On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:59 PM Simon Urli wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in the > recycle bin. > However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like for > the users. > I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: > https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin > > The 4 proposal are numbered as following: > >A. A simple button >B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it >C. A button and a modal to confirm the action >D. A generic bulk action on the livetable > > Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. > > Simon > -- > Simon Urli > Software Engineer at XWiki SAS > simon.u...@xwiki.com > More about us at http://www.xwiki.com >
Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Delete all in the recycle bin
Hi Simon, > On 29 Oct 2018, at 14:59, Simon Urli wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I'll work this month on adding the "delete all" functionality in the recycle > bin. > However I'd like to have your opinion on how it should looks like for the > users. > I have at least 4 proposals that I detailed there: > https://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Deleteallfromrecyclebin > > The 4 proposal are numbered as following: > > A. A simple button > B. A simple button with a checkbox to activate it > C. A button and a modal to confirm the action +1 > D. A generic bulk action on the livetable +1 Note that for D you may not need to implement bulk actions but just the ability to have some global action. Thanks -Vincent > > Thanks in advance for your feedbacks. > > Simon > -- > Simon Urli > Software Engineer at XWiki SAS > simon.u...@xwiki.com > More about us at http://www.xwiki.com
