Re: [Dhis2-devs] Dynamic attributes

2011-09-16 Thread Jo Størset
Hi, Den 14. sep. 2011 kl. 16.13 skrev Bob Jolliffe: OK. Lets try Friday morning 09h30 my time - that's 10h30 Oslo time Dial-in number: +1-424-203-8000 or Skype call to: freeconferencing.8000 Code: 553472 I know you are under pressure to finish this stuff so the intent is not to slow

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Dynamic attributes

2011-09-16 Thread Morten Olav Hansen
A decent recap, Bob and Morten? Yes, that seems to be a good recap. Its good enough for now ;) -- Morten Jo ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs Post to : dhis2-devs@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe :

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Dynamic attributes

2011-09-16 Thread Jason Pickering
Could we also add users to the objects with dynamic attributes? We need some more fields for alternative telephone numbers, fax, etc etc. Thanks, Jason On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Morten Olav Hansen morte...@gmail.com wrote: A decent recap, Bob and Morten? Yes, that seems to be a good

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Dynamic attributes

2011-09-16 Thread Bob Jolliffe
On 16 September 2011 11:23, Morten Olav Hansen morte...@gmail.com wrote: A decent recap, Bob and Morten? Yes thanks for calling in and good recap. Scope creep on which objects can have extensible attributes could render it cumbersome eventually, but while the number of such objects is few it

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Dynamic attributes

2011-09-16 Thread Bob Jolliffe
On 16 September 2011 11:54, Jason Pickering jason.p.picker...@gmail.com wrote: Could we also add users to the objects with dynamic attributes? We need some more fields for alternative telephone numbers, fax, etc etc. and so it begins ... Sounds reasonable to me :-) Or use ldap. Bob

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Dynamic attributes

2011-09-16 Thread Jason Pickering
Fine with me if you want to integrate LDAP while you are at it. :) On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 September 2011 11:54, Jason Pickering jason.p.picker...@gmail.com wrote: Could we also add users to the objects with dynamic attributes? We

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Dynamic attributes

2011-09-16 Thread Bob Jolliffe
On 16 September 2011 13:07, Jason Pickering jason.p.picker...@gmail.com wrote: Fine with me if you want to integrate LDAP while you are at it. :) Yes I see there's even a blueprint for this (I wonder who from?). I actually did this once - ie setup dhis so you can autthenticate against ldap.

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Dynamic attributes

2011-09-16 Thread Jason Pickering
LDAP is really overkill for what we need at this point. We just have a few more fields like alternate telephone number which we manage through a seperate Excel sheet. Not ideal really. No real requirement for LDAP just to get another number in. :) On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Bob Jolliffe

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Dynamic attributes

2011-09-16 Thread Morten Olav Hansen
Hi I also agree that User would benefit from dynamic attributes. Right now, I will concentrate on DE/I/OU only, but when that is finished, it should be easy enough to add support for Users also (but no reporting for now). -- Morten On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Jason Pickering

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Dynamic attributes

2011-09-14 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Breaking out from our current hard coded set of object attributes is certainly a great step forward. There is also some advantage in trying to think a bit generally about what we are doing. We are seeing lots of progress in the right direction. I was about to start a discussion about names

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Dynamic attributes

2011-09-14 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Hi Morten On a more concrete note than before ... :-) I've finally had a chance to look more closely at what you are doing. Can I make a small suggestion? Currently you are replicating a lot of code as you implement attributes across dataelements, indicators and orgunits. Currently these all

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Dynamic attributes

2011-09-14 Thread Morten Olav Hansen
Hi Bob I've finally had a chance to look more closely at what you are doing. Can I make a small suggestion?  Currently you are replicating a lot of code as you implement attributes across dataelements, indicators and orgunits.  Currently these all extend AbstractNameable object. Currently,

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Dynamic attributes

2011-09-14 Thread Bob Jolliffe
On 14 September 2011 14:05, Morten Olav Hansen morte...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bob I've finally had a chance to look more closely at what you are doing. Can I make a small suggestion?  Currently you are replicating a lot of code as you implement attributes across dataelements, indicators and

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Dynamic attributes

2011-09-14 Thread Morten Olav Hansen
Can I suggest we fit in a brief design call this week to touch base? I have a freeconference number we can use.  Maybe tomorrow or Friday? Lars are you around and/or available as well? Sure. I can tomorrow or Friday. Lars is in Uganda, but I'm sure he'll respond later if he has time for a

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Dynamic attributes

2011-09-14 Thread Jo Størset
Den 14. sep. 2011 kl. 15.32 skrev Morten Olav Hansen: Can I suggest we fit in a brief design call this week to touch base? I have a freeconference number we can use. Maybe tomorrow or Friday? Lars are you around and/or available as well? Sure. I can tomorrow or Friday. Lars is in Uganda,

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Dynamic attributes

2011-09-14 Thread Bob Jolliffe
OK. Lets try Friday morning 09h30 my time - that's 10h30 Oslo time Dial-in number: +1-424-203-8000 or Skype call to: freeconferencing.8000 Code: 553472 I know you are under pressure to finish this stuff so the intent is not to slow things up. Just keep us all pointing in same direction :-)

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Dynamic attributes

2011-09-14 Thread Carl Leitner
Hi All, I was just watching this thread and wanted to share our possibly similar experiences from iHRIS. Admittedly I have not looked at the details of how DHIS is implementing dynamic attributes in the database, but I would suspect the design pattern is similar to how

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Dynamic attributes

2011-09-14 Thread Bob Jolliffe
On 14 September 2011 15:32, Carl Leitner litlf...@ibiblio.org wrote: Hi All,  I was just watching this thread and wanted to share our possibly similar experiences from iHRIS.  Admittedly I have not looked at the details of how DHIS is implementing dynamic attributes in the database,  but I

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Dynamic attributes

2011-09-14 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Final thought from me for now ... On 14 September 2011 17:11, Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 September 2011 15:32, Carl Leitner litlf...@ibiblio.org wrote: Hi All,  I was just watching this thread and wanted to share our possibly similar experiences from iHRIS.  Admittedly I

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Dynamic attributes

2011-09-08 Thread Morten Olav Hansen
Hi - What is the planned use cases for this? This is part of my work for Rwanda, the system they are using today has quite a bit more attributes connected to each data element (or indicator as it was known in that system), and it was decided that instead of expanding the set of attributes

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Dynamic attributes

2011-09-08 Thread Lars Helge Øverland
For the specific use case, what they want is: 1) Add more meta-attributes to data elements (but we also add support for indicators, organisation units) 2) Create a data repository report (data dictionary) in PDF. For this, I will expand the Export to PDF functionality that already exists in

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Dynamic attributes

2011-09-08 Thread Lars Helge Øverland
- It doesn't seem to be linked to the general classes of nameable/identifiable object. Is it meant to be implemented just for specific meta object types? We are planning to implement for data element, indicator, org unit only at least for this release. But it can easily be extended if we

Re: [Dhis2-devs] Dynamic attributes

2011-09-08 Thread Jo Størset
Thanks for the responses. So I guess this might very well be a start of a general evolution in the meta model? It might be worth already now thinking a little through the possible consequences of this direction going forward. I think this is something we need :) As we work through how to

[Dhis2-devs] Dynamic attributes

2011-09-07 Thread Jo Størset
Hi, I see there is development going on for dynamic attributes [1] on some meta objects (DataElement, Indicator, DataSet, OrganisationUnit?). Some questions: - What is the planned use cases for this? - Is this significantly different from the attributes in the tracking module (I guess these